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Carnivore
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Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 02:51 am |
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I Don't condone an officer confiscating a presumedly innocent citizens firearm no matter what type of firearm it is. But the officer, if he truely has a legitimate reason to request a personal firearm, and one consents to the police taking posession of said firearm, the cop should be able to legally read the serial #'s and call in to see if the firearm is stolen--Bottom line, if the cop can call in the #'s and have a record of ones ID, then the presumably innocent citizen and his/her firearm should be allowed to go on about their business until a police report can be produced to verify said serial# on a specific firearm has been reported stolen. If I'm wrong, then the nosey bored cop needs to find something else to occupy his time, But I have no problem allowing an officer with legitimate cause and possibly even a back up as a witness to run the #'s on anything I own.
OH YEAH, just my opinion..
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Statkowski
Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 03:57 am |
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Carnivore, I must respectfully disagree with your rationale. It's called Probable Cause, and without such an officer cannot assume the weapon is stolen (which is exactly what he/she is doing with a serial number check). Besides, there is no central firearms registration database in Pennsylvania. Stolen firearms listing? Maybe, maybe not.
Check to see if it's a stolen weapon? Why would an officer assume anyone carrying was carrying a stolen weapon? We do not operate under the Napoleonic Code, we operate under English jurisprudence, which assumes a person is innocent until shown to be otherwise.
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Carnivore
Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 05:07 am |
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| very well put, I must agree innocent until proven guilty/ probable cause, but still if an officer convinced me that he had probable cause I would produce an ID, and an unloaded firearm, Granted the whole scenario must have a very professional appeal or I'd be mashing the gas and punching 911 on my cell then wait for the pursueing officer to catch up at the most likely awating roadblock.. providing this was originally a traffic stop.
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