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Police Arrest Man for Openly Carrying b/c Obama was Going to Speak; UPDATE: Trial on Tuesday 12 JUL!
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Grapeshot
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 Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 06:23 am
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Pa. Patriot wrote: FYI, trooper Schexnaildre is a 2005 academy grad

[url=http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:5SYlvFl_YvcJ:[url=http://www.psp.state.pa.us/psp/cwp/view.asp%3FA%3D11%26Q%3D173939+Shawn+L.+Schexnaildre&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a%5Dhttp://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:5SYlvFl_YvcJ:http://www.psp.state.pa.us/psp/cwp/view.asp%3FA%3D11%26Q%3D173939+Shawn+L.+Schexnaildre&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a]http://www.psp.state.pa.us/psp/cwp/view.asp%3FA%3D11%26Q%3D173939+Shawn+L.+Schexnaildre&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a]http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:5SYlvFl_YvcJ:http://www.psp.state.pa.us/psp/cwp/view.asp%3FA%3D11%26Q%3D173939+Shawn+L.+Schexnaildre&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a[/url][/url]

:lol: gotcha!  Shame to have such a short career.

Note to RB - Sleep restores the mind and body - get some occasionally.

       Yata hey  Edited to add note

Last edited on Sun Aug 31st, 2008 06:27 am by Grapeshot

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 Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 07:12 am
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Grapeshot wrote: Pa. Patriot wrote: FYI, trooper Schexnaildre is a 2005 academy grad

[url=http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:5SYlvFl_YvcJ:[url=http://www.psp.state.pa.us/psp/cwp/view.asp%3FA%3D11%26Q%3D173939+Shawn+L.+Schexnaildre&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a%5D[url=http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:5SYlvFl_YvcJ:http://www.psp.state.pa.us/psp/cwp/view.asp%3FA%3D11%26Q%3D173939+Shawn+L.+Schexnaildre&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a%5Dhttp://www.psp.state.pa.us/psp/cwp/view.asp%3FA%3D11%26Q%3D173939+Shawn+L.+Schexnaildre&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a%5Dhttp://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:5SYlvFl_YvcJ:http://www.psp.state.pa.us/psp/cwp/view.asp%3FA%3D11%26Q%3D173939+Shawn+L.+Schexnaildre&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a]http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:5SYlvFl_YvcJ:http://www.psp.state.pa.us/psp/cwp/view.asp%3FA%3D11%26Q%3D173939+Shawn+L.+Schexnaildre&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a]http://www.psp.state.pa.us/psp/cwp/view.asp%3FA%3D11%26Q%3D173939+Shawn+L.+Schexnaildre&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a]http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:5SYlvFl_YvcJ:http://www.psp.state.pa.us/psp/cwp/view.asp%3FA%3D11%26Q%3D173939+Shawn+L.+Schexnaildre&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a[/url][/url][/url]

:lol: gotcha!  Shame to have such a short career.

Note to RB - Sleep restores the mind and body - get some occasionally.

       Yata hey  Edited to add note

Noted ;).  Thanks buddy, on the way to bed shortly.  I have been working on this issue for approximately the past 18 out of 24 hours.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 07:29 am
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Pa. Patriot wrote: Another article:  http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17342284/detail.html?rss=pit&psp=news
In a news release, state police Trooper Shawn L. Schexnaildre wrote that Noble “breached the secured perimeter of a presidential candidate political rally with a handgun fully loaded, operational, holstered and exposed.”

 Cool!

So now we have Pennsylvania State Trooper Shawn L. Schexnaildre blatantly lying to the media.

Say goodbye career, Mr. Schexnaildre.

If he 'breached the secured perimeter' it must NOT have been a 'secured' perimeter...;)

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I think we need to pick our battles a little more careful. Defending the actions of this nutcase IS NOT A GOOD MOVE FOR OPEN CARRY. This guy is a great example for the anti-gun folks to wave around.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 08:10 am
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no carry permit ? wrote: I think we need to pick our battles a little more careful. Defending the actions of this nutcase IS NOT A GOOD MOVE FOR OPEN CARRY. This guy is a great example for the anti-gun folks to wave around.Whatever.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 09:36 am
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no carry permit ? wrote: I think we need to pick our battles a little more careful. Defending the actions of this nutcase IS NOT A GOOD MOVE FOR OPEN CARRY. This guy is a great example for the anti-gun folks to wave around.

Yeah, how dare he be present on public property, within the law, when Obama is in town....
I think everyone in Pa. should leave their guns at home when Obama is in Pa.  Afterall, we need to pick our battles.
:rolleyes:

Last edited on Sun Aug 31st, 2008 09:47 am by Pa. Patriot

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 Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 11:29 am
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no carry permit ? wrote: I think we need to pick our battles a little more careful. Defending the actions of this nutcase IS NOT A GOOD MOVE FOR OPEN CARRY. This guy is a great example for the anti-gun folks to wave around.

No carry permit?:  I think you have the wrong website.

MTN Jack is not a nut case.  He is a respected member of this forum.  I do not think there are many here that first calculate the political pros and cons before defending a persons 2nd and 4th Amendment rights.  If you want that sort of calculating website and crowd I recommend that you go to the NRA site.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 12:48 pm
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no carry permit ? wrote: I think we need to pick our battles a little more careful. Defending the actions of this nutcase IS NOT A GOOD MOVE FOR OPEN CARRY. This guy is a great example for the anti-gun folks to wave around.
Yeah, and while we are at it, we should just advise people to not cary a gun anywhere in the United States until the Presidential election is over.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 12:56 pm
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http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/08/31/news/doc48ba0ed765c78582222905.txt 
Man says he had right to carry gun to rally
By Bill Vidonic, Times Staff
Published: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:31 PM EDT
INDUSTRY — An Industry man insisted Saturday there’s nothing in the law that prevented him from wearing a loaded handgun to Friday’s presidential election rally in Beaver.

“I have it for protection, to protect my wife and my children,” said John A. Noble, 50. “I never gave it a thought. I wasn’t doing anything illegal,”

Noble, a horse and cattle fence builder, said he was simply standing with others at the rally, a Bible in one hand, and an apple in the other.

But it was the Glock 19 handgun holstered at his side that drew the attention of local and federal law enforcement. State police said just wearing the gun disrupted the event.

Noble said he had a handful of fliers that he wanted to pass out, spelling out gun rights.

Those fliers list Noble’s basic argument, citing a Pennsylvania statute that says a person may “openly carry a handgun in plain sight with no license.” Exceptions include in vehicles, in Philadelphia, and convicted felons.

To carry a concealed handgun, a person must have a state license to carry firearms.

Noble said he didn’t have a ticket to the rally, and he was standing with his wife, Janet, in McIntosh Park. While that area was fenced in, spectators did not have to pass through metal detectors to get into that area, as they did in Irvine Park.

In a news release, state police Trooper Shawn L. Schexnaildre wrote that Noble “breached the secured perimeter of a presidential candidate political rally with a handgun fully loaded, operational, holstered and exposed.”

Bystanders alerted police, and deputy sheriffs, Beaver police, state police and Secret Service agents took him into custody.

“(Noble’s) actions created a clear public alarm and caused a significant breakdown in the security measures at the rally” with officers abandoning their posts “to ensure his quick and safe apprehension and disarming.”

Friday, deputies and state police said that Noble never tried to draw his weapon and did not threaten anyone with it. Noble’s arrest took place more than an hour before Obama and Biden arrived in Beaver.

Noble never did hear Obama, as he was in state police custody until his release, and his firearm, which Noble said he has a permit for, was confiscated.

When questioned as to the wisdom of wearing a firearm to a rally with metal detectors, Secret Service agents, and dozens of local law enforcement, Noble replied, “His (Obama’s) rights do not trump mine.” He added he’s worn the gun in public for several years without incident.

Noble says he has an attorney, but said he’ll wait and see what charges he might face before deciding what course of action he’d take.

In the news release, Schexnaildre described the nature of the incident as disorderly conduct, and wrote that Noble faces misdemeanor grade charges that will be filed by state police; no federal charges have been filed.

Noble said his only previous criminal offense was “a speeding ticket while driving a church bus.”

“If it was that serious of an offense (Friday), I would be in jail,” Noble said.

Bill Vidonic can be reached online at bvidonic@timesonline.com.

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OUTRAGEOUS!!!!! If a politician is afraid or your firearm, he is not worthy of your vote. Maybe der SS is nervous, after all a plot to assassinate B. Hussein was just foiled.  But really assasinating Ubama to keep him out of the White House is like shooting out all the streetlights so the sun will go down. 

     Ubama Alexandria HQ just opened up shop right across the street from me and I have made a point to walk up and down the sreet strapped EVERY DAY.  And if I get arrested for a crime that does not exist I will by the Living God who made me absolutely SUE THE LIVING CRAP out of each and every person who violated my God-given rights.  And that poor schmoe in PA should do the same.  This news has pissed me off beyond belief.:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss: 

 

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Say goodbye career, Mr. Schexnaildre.

If only.  Lon Horiuchi got promoted after he shot a woman holding a baby in the head, so what makes you think that lying to the media is going to affect any cop's career?  Hell, lying on the witness stand rarely does.

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Then, VOTE for McCain-his VP is a LIFE MEMBER of the NRA, FRIEND of the COURT in the HELLER decision,Avid Hunter, Pro Life and a "STRAIGHT SHOOTER" not bad  McCain won when everyone says that John McCain asked her to be his V.P. on the ticket!  That's all I'll have to do with POLITICS. 

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 Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 03:08 pm
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A turd cannot be polished.

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Doug Huffman wrote: A turd cannot be polished.

There will always be those that will try.  They are the ones will dirty hands!

       Yata hey

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 Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 04:36 pm
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Doug Huffman wrote: A turd cannot be polished.
But it can be bronzed. Sorry OT.

Last edited on Sun Aug 31st, 2008 04:37 pm by longwatch

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 Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 06:07 pm
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no carry permit ? wrote: I think we need to pick our battles a little more careful. Defending the actions of this nutcase IS NOT A GOOD MOVE FOR OPEN CARRY. This guy is a great example for the anti-gun folks to wave around.
So, if he OC's all the time - how is he to know when he will be arrested for not breaking the law?

You can predict the future? :shock:

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And how ironic he was passing out literature TO PROTECT THE 2ND AMENDMENT and he gets his 2nd amendment right RUN OVER!

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

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I disagree OT. 

These are very apt metaphors for the GOP VP choice in that she was chosen to bring luster (metallic polish) to an otherwise lack-luster campaign between lesser weevils.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 06:21 pm
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Pa. Patriot wrote: no carry permit ? wrote: I think we need to pick our battles a little more careful. Defending the actions of this nutcase IS NOT A GOOD MOVE FOR OPEN CARRY. This guy is a great example for the anti-gun folks to wave around.

Yeah, how dare he be present on public property, within the law, when Obama is in town....
I think everyone in Pa. should leave their guns at home when Obama is in Pa.  Afterall, we need to pick our battles.
:rolleyes:

The false messiah was'nt even in town yet. This makes me wonder what's next. Are the cops going to be told to sieze all privately owned firearms in a town just because a friggin politico is going to visit?

"Newspaper report fails to note that no permit is needed to open carry in Pennsylvania and most states"

Since when has the lib media ever truthfully or accuratly reported on anything involving firearms?

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 Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 06:34 pm
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Idiocy.  TJ and I went to a Ron Paul Rally in Salt Lake City, and shook Dr. Paul's hand while openly armed.  :cool:

The police and security just looked at us and smiled.  :D


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