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Tucker6900
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 07:35 pm |
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no carry permit ? wrote: I think we need to pick our battles a little more careful. Defending the actions of this nutcase IS NOT A GOOD MOVE FOR OPEN CARRY. This guy is a great example for the anti-gun folks to wave around.
First off. I think you picked the wrong forum to post that nonsense.
What exactly makes him a nutcase? Is it because he was armed? Open Carrying? Carrying a bible? What?
It seems that the government decides to make up the laws as they go along. I know for a fact that both this gentleman here, and the one in Denver, were well within their rights to be doing what they were doing.
The man in Denver was arrested only because there was a politician in the building. And the same happened in PA. HE WAS IN A PUBLIC PLACE, WITHIN THE LAW!
Will someone please keep us up to date on what is going on with this case? I think its time for an answer as to why we keep getting our rights trampled on by the very people SWORN TO UPHOLD AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION!!!
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Mike
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 07:38 pm |
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Tucker6900 wrote: Will someone please keep us up to date on what is going on with this case?
What case? Colorado? Pennsylvania?
You need to be more specific in your posts - and also, maybe finding out this information and posting it would be a good job for you to do.
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Gray Coyote
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 08:20 pm |
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| don't make this about obahma or Pa this guy was lookink for trouble and he found it.the same thing would have happened at a mccain ralley.
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SlackwareRobert
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 08:37 pm |
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Then why didn't the same thing happen at the Ron Paul rally.
Unless you agree that the SS and LEO are only doing what
the politico wants them to do. Which is violate the rights of
citizens because we dare to challege the non existing authority
of double standards. No this is a clear case of we are not going to allow
people to go about there lives without aknowledging the king.
Obama could have scheduled a rally where guns are not allowed, DC comes to mind.
And he wonders why angry guys are clinging to thier guns, and religion.
It's becuase of government, not inspite of it!
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Theseus
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 08:39 pm |
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Gray Coyote wrote: don't make this about obahma or Pa this guy was lookink for trouble and he found it.the same thing would have happened at a mccain ralley.
He was looking for trouble? Because doing something that is completely legal and informing people about your political beliefs makes one guilty of looking for trouble?
Obvisouly driving your car and honking your horn at a "Honk is your horny" sticker means you must be looking for trouble too. ..
The most point is that he was legal! Not about what people don't agree with! WTF don't you people understand?? Someone doing something legal is not asking for trouble or and is not crazy! (Well, maybe they are...but not neccessarily because he is excersising his legal right within the law.)
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Pa. Patriot
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 08:42 pm |
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Gray Coyote wrote: ...this guy was lookink for trouble and he found it.
Can you provide citations of fact to support this claim?
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HELEN
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 08:56 pm |
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| IT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN AT ANY RALLY,,IT DON'T MATTER WHO IS SPEAKING,,JACK HAS THE RIGHT TO CARRY,,JUST AS HE DOES EVERY DAY ,,PD DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE UP RULES AS THEY GO,,BEAVER COUNTY (PD'S)IS WELL KNOWN FOR MAKING UP THE RULES AS THEY GO AND IT'S TIME FOR THEM TO LEARN THEY ARE GOVEREND BY THE SAME LAWS AS WE THE PEOPLE THEY ARE TO PERTECT,,I HAD A COP RIP MY TAPE RECORDER OFF MY SHIRT AND SHUT IT OFF,,THAN WAS THRETENED TO BE CUFFED AND STUFFED FOR RECORDING THEM ON PUBLIC PROPERTY,,THIS KIND OF INJUSTICE MUST BE STOPED AND MY ONLY REGRETS IS THAT I DID NOT GO WITH JACK WHEN HE ASKED ME TO ATTEND THIS RALLY
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Gray Coyote
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 09:12 pm |
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| I C.C. all the time because I don't want people to look at me . If I want to be noticed I'd O.C. and then have to deal with it.wrong place and time to O.C. now he has to deal with it.I just think there are better ways to get your point accross.
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Mike
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 09:18 pm |
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Gray Coyote wrote: I C.C. all the time because I don't want people to look at me . If I want to be noticed I'd O.C. and then have to deal with it.wrong place and time to O.C. now he has to deal with it.I just think there are better ways to get your point accross.
So, keep you rights in the closet eh?
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chrsjhnsn
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 10:12 pm |
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"about obahma or Pa this guy was lookink for trouble and he found it"
UH, yeah suuuure. Just like women wearing skirts are asking to be raped, interacial
couples are also asking for trouble in your country too, aren't they?
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hsmith
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Posted: Wed Sep 3rd, 2008 11:53 pm |
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Gray Coyote wrote: I C.C. all the time because I don't want people to look at me . If I want to be noticed I'd O.C. and then have to deal with it.wrong place and time to O.C. now he has to deal with it.I just think there are better ways to get your point accross.
Like when it is 100% legal and police arrest you for no reason?
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CowboyKen
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Posted: Thu Sep 4th, 2008 12:39 am |
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SlackwareRobert wrote: Then why didn't the same thing happen at the Ron Paul rally.
Do you think maybe because he was not under Secret Service protection?
Ken
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BB62
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Posted: Thu Sep 4th, 2008 01:14 am |
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HELEN wrote: IT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN AT ANY RALLY,,IT DON'T MATTER WHO IS SPEAKING,,JACK HAS THE RIGHT TO CARRY,,JUST AS HE DOES EVERY DAY ,,PD DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE UP RULES AS THEY GO,,BEAVER COUNTY (PD'S)IS WELL KNOWN FOR MAKING UP THE RULES AS THEY GO...
Helen,
You should consider posting using proper capitalization - it makes things much more readable.
Also, using all caps in posts is considered SHOUTING.
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Thu Sep 4th, 2008 01:14 am |
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... And that SS 'protection' extends... how far? Nahhh... Jack was effectively (Illegally) 'silenced' for political reasons using surrogate PA-SP. He was intimidated... arrested for convience... had his property siezed and confiscated (Illegally), questioned (Interrogated) illegally and generally kept out of the way (Falsely imprisoned) and quiet for the duration of the annointed one's presence. Dissent is not allowed in the Obama world.
Anybody thinks otherwise has their head up their ass.
Last edited on Thu Sep 4th, 2008 01:17 am by Sonora Rebel
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Shotgun
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Posted: Thu Sep 4th, 2008 01:26 am |
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Gray Coyote wrote: lookink for trouble General Burkhalter?
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Comp-tech
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Posted: Thu Sep 4th, 2008 01:48 am |
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CowboyKen wrote: SlackwareRobert wrote: Then why didn't the same thing happen at the Ron Paul rally.
Do you think maybe because he was not under Secret Service protection?
Ken
No....it was because of Dr. Pauls stance on personal liberty and freedom....period.
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HELEN
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Posted: Thu Sep 4th, 2008 01:50 am |
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| NOT GOOD AT TYPING AND NEVER TAKE THE CAPS OFF
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KBCraig
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Posted: Thu Sep 4th, 2008 02:27 am |
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Gray Coyote wrote: I C.C. all the time because I don't want people to look at me . If I want to be noticed I'd O.C. and then have to deal with it.wrong place and time to O.C. now he has to deal with it.I just think there are better ways to get your point accross. So, to get your point across, you don't let anyone know what your point is? You carry concealed through a crowd and then think, "Heh! I really made my point today!" Is that how it works?
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CowboyKen
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Posted: Thu Sep 4th, 2008 02:28 am |
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Sonora Rebel wrote: ... And that SS 'protection' extends... how far? Nahhh... Jack was effectively (Illegally) 'silenced' for political reasons using surrogate PA-SP. He was intimidated... arrested for convience... had his property siezed and confiscated (Illegally), questioned (Interrogated) illegally and generally kept out of the way (Falsely imprisoned) and quiet for the duration of the annointed one's presence. Dissent is not allowed in the Obama world.
Anybody thinks otherwise has their head up their ass.
Do you think it will be different at a McCain rally?
Ken
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KBCraig
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Posted: Thu Sep 4th, 2008 02:31 am |
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CowboyKen wrote: SlackwareRobert wrote: Then why didn't the same thing happen at the Ron Paul rally.
Do you think maybe because he was not under Secret Service protection?
Police escorted Ron Paul at every rally and event he attended. If he had requested SS protection, he would have gotten it.
In this incident in Pennsylvania, it was local and state police who initiated the contact and detained Jack. They notified SS and consulted with them, but it was Pennsylvania police proffering Pennsylvania charges both at the beginning, and in the end. SS protection really had nothing to do with it.
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