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Posted: Thu Jun 4th, 2009 05:53 pm |
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| What an absolute load of bollocks!!!!! I have 2 akitas here in the uk, and they are the dopyiest dogs you would ever meet, this thread started as was the officer right to shoot, if he feels his life is in danger then its his call, but to slam the breed afterwards and make it the dogs fault is total crap, the dog will respond as he is trained to, as for all the crap about akitas being no good as a working breed that too is total claptrap, most educated police forces in the world have had and do use the akita as a response dog, its prey drive works totally unlike a normal dog not because of its wolf type genes but because of its feline type intincts, it does not just jump and attack, first it will stalk and hunt, which is why they are in fact so good as response dogs!!! you can pre-empt their behaviour and understand what is going on, well trained and well socialised akitas prove no more threat than any other kind of breed, so to say well it was an akita isnt a defence,!!
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Posted: Thu Jun 4th, 2009 06:28 pm |
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Mr Roo,
You are talking a ton of horse poop. Its village idiots like you that know nothing about dogs that give this breed a bad name.
If the officer was in danger then he has a right to shoot the dog. The owner should face up to the fact that he cant handle the dog.
But for you to come on a public forum and speak as if you know what you are on about give me a break. Stick with your sled dog which if I am not mistaken is a SPITZ same as an akita. Hang on let look at that SPITZ closest relatives to the wolf.
Is it me or can I hear the united voice of a village calling for its idiot since he is on a forum talking horse poop.
Grow up get a life and take you sled dog for a walk
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Posted: Thu Jun 4th, 2009 06:54 pm |
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Hmmm... 2 new users whose first and only post is on here trying to cause problems. And the one claims to be from the UK. On a site about carrying openly, moreover. Sounds like one troll using multiple screen names to me. Does lead to a strong belief that it's one user that's an anti trolling pro 2a sites. I guess the best they could do was arguing about a breed of dog.
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Posted: Thu Jun 4th, 2009 08:08 pm |
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| Nope wrong im afraid, definately not one and the same person at all, just two educated people drawing attention to the fact, someone cocked up and then to defend his stance for yourselves , didnt even blame the dog but tried pinning it on the breed, sorry but that sort of prejudice is exactly what you guys are trying to fight for what you believe is your own cause, now call me slightly cynical, but isnt this a case of pot calling kettle black, you dont agree with one so all are wrong ??, One dog attacks.......which incedentally is crossed with an american pit bull ! so not really an akita at all and one total fwitt "" the roo man" decides to band about all akitas are bad, sorry I just replied the link to this pile of crap posted over here in the uk!! my reply is probably one of many your gonna get. Still I supposed if you want to avoid that sort of cock up in the first place...........maybe you should all poll " should we get a brit to carry our arms openly for us as we cant be trusted to get it right"!!!!
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Posted: Thu Jun 4th, 2009 09:10 pm |
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It would seem to me that the Brits most certainly could not get it right, and as such allowed their inalienable right to defend themselves (and keep their pistols and what not) to disappear. An akita is like a pit bull in that they can be good dogs, but they have a bad reputation from the ones that were overbred or were ever abused. A strange dog of a infamous species is a dangerous thing to trust when it is growling and barking while it charges you. Would you trust a bear while it's growling and charging at you? Self preservation is a strong urge to try to ignore when your adrenaline is pumping. Were it to be a smaller breed, like a chihuahua, it would have been not considered to be a reasonable threat, and that would be a different story.
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Posted: Thu Jun 4th, 2009 11:48 pm |
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Don’t think I understand your logic you say
“An akita is like a pit bull in that they can be good dogs, but they have a bad reputation from the ones that were overbred or were ever abused”.
Is it me or are you just stating the obvious ?
I would say that is it not the case with any dog when you abuse or mistreat they can turn into a killer.
As I have said already any dog out of control that will cause harm to a human being should not be allowed to be around that public.
What I object to is when the mis informed point a finger at a single breed a say they are killers that’s when the problems start. Just like yourself and insane kangaroo its obvious you don't know the breed or what they are like.
As for us Brits defending ourselves yet again you show your lack of understanding and the subtle nuances that make up a nation. Don't tell anyone but you know what we don't need guns my old mucker.
Cor blimey we don't have to carry a gun to protect ourselves and stone the crows we are intelligent enough to understand that not all Americans carry guns or want to.
But please feel free to come over anytime and start a whole bunch of trouble and see the outcome. Trust me we wont be sitting around drinking tea and eating biscuits.
Huggs & Kisses
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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 02:38 pm |
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MrAkitaEars wrote: As for us Brits defending ourselves yet again you show your lack of understanding and the subtle nuances that make up a nation. Don't tell anyone but you know what we don't need guns my old mucker.
That's odd, because the Blacks and Asians in Britain attacked in their homes by White supremacists might disagree.
Funny how those sorts of things don't happen much in the US. That's probably because it would be an express ticket to hell for the Klansman or skinhead who tried it.
Brits are BY LAW helpless, unarmed victims. But then I'm sure that the perpetrators prefer it that way. They always do, especially the ones who post on the internet.
It's so very typical of contemporary Brits to cry over dogs but not give a crap about human beings.
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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 03:53 pm |
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What an absolute load of rubbish, You give most law abideing well educated americans a bad nome, For 1 we dont feel the need to bear arms, we have a police force and army that will quite capably do that for us which 2 allows us to sleep peacefully in our own homes away from the culture your living in where your afraid for your lives, 3 as for arms being used in race riots if your going to quote history do a little research and get it right, it started in the asian communities indian against pakistani, spilled over into the white communities, AND arms were never involved, i beleive in fact misuse of arms against a black or asian community was rife however in the beautiful south of the usa, which incedentally.............is also the country responsible for the total gang orientated drug infused culture that is leading to the spread of arms misuse in most developed nations as we speak, luckily for us here in the uk arms, drugs and idiots are tightly controlled and as such means we still have a handle on the situation, Over the water however would seem to be a different kettle of fish completely otherwise you wouldnt feel the need or urge to carry arms,
We do have a right to defend ourselves over here, always have and always will, we have the right to use force of an equall or lesser value to allow self defence/preservation, as we dont live in a gun culture thankfully, we dont all need to be armed.
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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 05:15 pm |
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robgoozee wrote: What an absolute load of rubbish, You give most law abideing well educated americans a bad nome, For 1 we dont feel the need to bear arms, we have a police force and army that will quite capably do that for us which 2 allows us to sleep peacefully in our own homes away from the culture your living in where your afraid for your lives, 3 as for arms being used in race riots if your going to quote history do a little research and get it right, it started in the asian communities indian against pakistani, spilled over into the white communities, AND arms were never involved, i beleive in fact misuse of arms against a black or asian community was rife however in the beautiful south of the usa, which incedentally.............is also the country responsible for the total gang orientated drug infused culture that is leading to the spread of arms misuse in most developed nations as we speak, luckily for us here in the uk arms, drugs and idiots are tightly controlled and as such means we still have a handle on the situation, Over the water however would seem to be a different kettle of fish completely otherwise you wouldnt feel the need or urge to carry arms,
We do have a right to defend ourselves over here, always have and always will, we have the right to use force of an equall or lesser value to allow self defence/preservation, as we dont live in a gun culture thankfully, we dont all need to be armed.
Right, you have the "right" to defend yourselves over there. That's why repeatedly your people are locked up for doing so. Listen, if you want to talk about how guns are unnecessary try a different site. You're not going to get anywhere here with that. There is more violent crime per capita in your unarmed country than in our armed country. Plus, since the ban of pistols in your country, it has been on the rise. I've been to your country several time. Your police do not have a handle on the arms or drugs OR idiots situation. You can't speak for everyone in your country that they all do not feel the need for firearms to protect themselves. If that were the case, how come there are as many protests trying to get back the pistols or protests to try to get someone off of their charges for defending themselves (in their own homes almost everytime, moreover).
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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 06:04 pm |
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robgoozee wrote: What an absolute load of rubbish, You give most law abideing well educated americans a bad nome, For 1 we dont feel the need to bear arms, we have a police force and army that will quite capably do that for us which 2 allows us to sleep peacefully in our own homes away from the culture your living in where your afraid for your lives, 3 as for arms being used in race riots if your going to quote history do a little research and get it right, it started in the asian communities indian against pakistani, spilled over into the white communities, AND arms were never involved, i beleive in fact misuse of arms against a black or asian community was rife however in the beautiful south of the usa, which incedentally.............is also the country responsible for the total gang orientated drug infused culture that is leading to the spread of arms misuse in most developed nations as we speak, luckily for us here in the uk arms, drugs and idiots are tightly controlled and as such means we still have a handle on the situation, Over the water however would seem to be a different kettle of fish completely otherwise you wouldnt feel the need or urge to carry arms,
We do have a right to defend ourselves over here, always have and always will, we have the right to use force of an equall or lesser value to allow self defence/preservation, as we dont live in a gun culture thankfully, we dont all need to be armed.
You don't feel the need for victims of violent crime to have the EFFECTIVE means of self-defense.
Apparently you don't control skinheads and National Front types, or their axes. Otherwise they wouldn't knock down the doors of non-Whites in council housing and kill them. But maybe you don't consider the victims "important". Maybe if enough of them are murdered, they'll leave. A lot of Brits would like that.
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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 06:12 pm |
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Going a bit off topic I think on the whole skinhead race gun thing but no worries billy bob I have a gun rack in the s10 and a pack of man eating Bichon Frise to protect my rights to carry a gun.
Back on subject I did have a question for all y'all god fearing folk out there when you made the blanket statement that all Akita's where killers which breed type where you referring to ?
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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 06:35 pm |
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hmmmm???....would that be the AMERICAN akita by any chance!!!!!!!!...........cause all who really know anything about the breed know the japanese akita is by nature a shy animal.
As we have been saying right from the beginning if ANY animal attacks you have the right to defend yourself. Its never a BREEDS fault its individual dogs & their owners that are at fault.
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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 08:36 pm |
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MrAkitaEars wrote: Going a bit off topic I think on the whole skinhead race gun thing but no worries billy bob I have a gun rack in the s10 and a pack of man eating Bichon Frise to protect my rights to carry a gun.
In the immortal words of the great Graham Chapman, "Run away, run away!"
Strike a little close to home there, did I, Oswald Mosely?
Black people with guns must scare the crap out of you.
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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 08:28 am |
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Oswald Mosley please why quote some 1930's anti communist that no one out side of the UK knows anything about really.
If you want to draw analogies to more up-to-date UK racist please quote Nick Griffin BNP. Now he is a good clean cut white boy.
Although I have to say I do like the whole black shirted Salvador Dali moustache look that Mosley sported in the 30's.
As for being scared of black people with guns that doesn't scare me as much as having a black Muslim brother in the white house scares you.
Listen everyone to their own if you want to carry a gun I am happy with that you go ahead. You are legally allowed to so its not a crime in the USA here its illegal.
I must say next time I am over in the good old USA I would like to shoot a dessert eagle.
Anyway we wander off topic what I did post for was this nonsense about all Akita's are bad dogs.
But Dean I am more than happy to debate post war British politics with you.
I really like this site havnt had such an open debate on such a wide range of issues for a long time.
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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 12:39 pm |
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Another experienced akita owner/handler from the UK here. Followed the thread with some interest and still wondering why this cross breed who is apparently part akita - why the akita part has not been confirmed as being AMERICAN again.
Come on all you so called akita experts who truly believe these dogs are inherently aggressive to all living things, which would it be - the original mild mannered true akita often used to look after children or the breed that has been f*cked about with by idiots.
As for saying we are racist and kick down doors of people who have a different colour of skin from us - come off it, what colour is the sky in your world!!! Do we also allow our akitas to go in through the kicked down doors to wreak havoc...
I dont believe I have ever seen a sign on shop doorway in this country stating a disgusting slogan like "NO BLACKS ALLOWED" however I have certainly witnessed this in the good old US of A!!
I have also had to watch where I sat at a baseball game - ie not next to a coloured colleague in case he "had his ass kicked" by jealous racist white men. Again, I have not come across this neanderthal behaviour in this country.
So keep your guns, drugs and idiots to yourselves and we will continue to exist in our peaceful country with our beautiful and well mannered akitas.
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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 01:58 pm |
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Keykos mummy wrote: I dont believe I have ever seen a sign on shop doorway in this country stating a disgusting slogan like "NO BLACKS ALLOWED" however I have certainly witnessed this in the good old US of A!!
I guarantee you haven't witnessed it in a VERY long time, and certainly in no place where lawyers exist.
On the other hand, I don't have to worry about skinheads knocking down my door with axes and killing me because of my race. They wouldn't even try it. They already know the vanishingly small odds of their survival in any such attempt.
In most parts of the USA, effective self-defense is a right.
In the UK it's a crime.
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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 06:32 pm |
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jahwarrior72 wrote: this is similar to the argument the Brady Bunch uses to vilify gun owners. stop sounding like a jackass. i know you're not one.
"pit bulls are dangerous dogs; they're bred for fighting, and have jaws that will bite through Superman's ass. they can also jump 30 feet into the air, and are used only by gangbangers to bite rivals during drive by dog-walking."
i've heard this bull@#$% for years, and it always sounds stupid. akitas, dobies, rotties, pits, they all get their turn. a dog is a dog. either you raise it well, or you don't. there's no excuse for having a people-aggressive dog.
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I own a dog grooming business, and I have had dozens and dozens of breeds of dogs here, from teacup chihuahuas to a 250+lb English Mastiff. A dog's breed alone plays no part on whether or not it is aggressive. I have about a half dozen Akita's that come in here and every one of them is on their best behavior. Most of the aggressive fear biters are dogs under 35lbs, matter of fact.
Sorry to hijack the thread, I just get annoyed when people generalize behavior characteristics to a breed as a whole.
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Posted: Sun Jun 7th, 2009 09:41 am |
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Dean,
My old fruit I thought we had covered the whole you can we cant gun thing.
Maybe you missed it and just in case you did we here in UK accept and acknowledge your right to bare arms.Which of course you have as it is written as the 2nd amendment to the bill of rights.
As a side note its interesteting to see that the constitution was actually put together in Philadelphia Pennsylvania. Now there was me thinking all that place was famous for was that Tom Hanks movie and cheese steak.
Anyway I digress as usual Dean I have to say you really do bring out the naughty side of me.
So Dean when you talk about effective forms of self defence if you mean guns you know we dont have them as they are illegal here. So unfortunately we have to be very up close and personal when the skinheads come calling.
Dean when you refer to skinhead are you focusing on the Neo Nazi types as the UK don't have a skinhead issue to be honest. You really need to look to more towards the old soviet union states as they really do have a very large Neo-Nazi problem.
What we do have is a lot of right wing Asian group that are a lot more worrying than skinheads. So Dean come on man back on topic chop chop get with the Akita thing.
Hendu24 thanks so much for your input here is an example of a person that works with dogs and can look past the breed. I will swing an ale in your honour next time I am down the pub.
Dean you have a really good week and watch out for the English skinheads that come a calling in the night  .
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Posted: Sun Jun 7th, 2009 03:05 pm |
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MrAkitaEars wrote: So Dean come on man back on topic chop chop get with the Akita thing.
The "topic" is OFF-TOPIC for an American message board devoted to the open carrying of firearms.
Let us know when you get a custom OWB made for your DOG. Be sure to use a high quality belt, as Akita's are generally heavy enough to deform a cheap belt.
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Posted: Sun Jun 7th, 2009 05:50 pm |
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Hendu24 - you talk sense!
Deform a belt? dont make me laugh - the only thing my dogs deform are dog biscuits!
CHILDREN can walk my dogs they are so well behaved, oh and did I mention the perfect recall also?
Blame the deed and not the breed. I understand a dogs requirements, hence the fact I have well mannered and disciplined dogs.
Now go do a little more research and perhaps you can come back with joined up writing. 
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