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Deanimator
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Posted: Sun Jun 7th, 2009 06:20 pm |
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Keykos mummy wrote: Hendu24 - you talk sense!
Deform a belt? dont make me laugh - the only thing my dogs deform are dog biscuits!
Have you ever carried your dog OWB with a cheap belt? I didn't think so. Of course you don't even know what that means.
Have you noticed that you're in a firearms related discussion board talking about dogs and I'm NOT in a dog related discussion board talking about guns, holsters, belts and firearms law? This isn't usenet. You DON'T have "crossposting" as an excuse.
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Posted: Sun Jun 7th, 2009 07:05 pm |
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Deano,
Don't want to antagonise you even more by sating the obvious but I think the thread reads "Another Dog Shot by Police Officer". I don't think it read another dog shot with a Gloch G27 by the fuzz or anything like that.
Hence the reason I posted was that all Akita where classed in the thread as killers by a village idiot Mr Roo.
So while the forum is a gun forum and as I keep telling you we are all cool with that. I did take great umbrage with Mr Roo.
So Dean chill out and chop chop fella let us all have your angle on the whole Akita's are killers thing.
I am sure you are ready to impart us with some of that special wisdom that you have been laying down.
Our as we say in blighty "Deano lay me some of your home grown Pony son"Last edited on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 07:09 pm by MrAkitaEars
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Posted: Sun Jun 7th, 2009 07:38 pm |
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MrAkitaEars wrote: Deano,
Don't want to antagonise you even more by sating the obvious but I think the thread reads "Another Dog Shot by Police Officer". I don't think it read another dog shot with a Gloch G27 by the fuzz or anything like that.
Hence the reason I posted was that all Akita where classed in the thread as killers by a village idiot Mr Roo.
So while the forum is a gun forum and as I keep telling you we are all cool with that. I did take great umbrage with Mr Roo.
So Dean chill out and chop chop fella let us all have your angle on the whole Akita's are killers thing.
I am sure you are ready to impart us with some of that special wisdom that you have been laying down.
Our as we say in blighty "Deano lay me some of your home grown Pony son"
I don't care about akitas, otherwise I'd be on akitas.org, instead of opencarry.org.
So, how do you feel about the "empty chamber vs. loaded chamber" and "hollowpoints vs. FMJs" arguments?
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i'm curious, did someone from a british-akita-fans forum see this topic and post it on that forum? or is it just a coincidence that three brits register and come to defend the akita within two days of each other?
not that i don't appreciate diversity of ideas, just wondering .
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Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 09:00 am |
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Deano were not all totally clueless with regard to firearms over here in the uk, I think in your case it would definately be loaded chamber, as for the round well neither ,personally i would go for a 50 cal armour peircing just to make sure I got a K shot on your thick hide !!!!
Oh also if I found myself wanting to carry OWB id use a don hume holster !!
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Deanimator
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Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 10:20 am |
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robgoozee wrote: Deano were not all totally clueless with regard to firearms over here in the uk, I think in your case it would definately be loaded chamber, as for the round well neither ,personally i would go for a 50 cal armour peircing just to make sure I got a K shot on your thick hide !!!!
Oh also if I found myself wanting to carry OWB id use a don hume holster !!
Wikipedia can be your friend... sometimes.
What kind of "50 cal armour (sic) peircing (sic)"?
.50 BMG?
.50 Vickers?
In what firearm? Is it readily concealable by any means other than throwing a tarp over it?
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MrAkitaEars
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Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 07:44 pm |
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Dean,
The only reason I came on to this thread was to stick up for the dogs nothing more. Your whole E-penis my guns bigger than your guns rambling really has nothing to do with the fact that an off duty policeman shot a mans dog.
So this forum is about guns but this thread isn’t so why are you asking what gun and holster do we have like or want.
Is it me or don’t you have an opinion about the thread.
I can see you all know a lot more than me about guns so asking me what type of bullet I like makes no odds.
So as I said chop chop Dean tell me your views on the guy that shot the dog.
PS Hollow point for me if I am sniping or hunting
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Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 08:12 pm |
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OK, brief OT intervention time.
Rob,
As Deanimator pointed out, there are multiple 50s. It would be a reasonable assumption that you had meant 50 BMG as that is the only one that is actually referred to as "50 cal" (except of course by kids trying to be cool). There is no OWB Don Hume holster made for 50 BMG rifles. Second, Don Hume is an overrated, overpriced mediocre holster.
Ears,
Hollow point is a poor choice for sniping. It creates a pocket of air on the front of the bullet in flight, throwing the trajectory off, as well as decreasing it's velocity. For hunting, that's a different discussion. Most people would find it helpful for taking the animal quicker. I go for headshots, personally.
OK, you may now proceed with your almost off-topic discussion.
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Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 08:51 pm |
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I take your advice on that Nepawolf.
I did speak to a buddy of mine who was army sniper in northern Ireland and his view that the hollow point was a better option due to the weight difference from front to back in cross winds apparently it creates a bubble. I believe they are banned under some convention or the other.
He also said killing power is much better and the chance of the bullet going through the target and hitting something else is reduced.
Personally all the shooting I have done is with Shotguns and as a teen in army cadets with big heavy semi-automatics.
Again you boys know what you are about when it comes to shooting things and I know about Akita's so I think we can all learn a little from each other.
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Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2009 01:51 am |
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MrAkitaEars wrote: Dean,
The only reason I came on to this thread was to stick up for the dogs nothing more. Your whole E-penis my guns bigger than your guns rambling really has nothing to do with the fact that an off duty policeman shot a mans dog.
So this forum is about guns but this thread isn’t so why are you asking what gun and holster do we have like or want.
Is it me or don’t you have an opinion about the thread.
I can see you all know a lot more than me about guns so asking me what type of bullet I like makes no odds.
So as I said chop chop Dean tell me your views on the guy that shot the dog.
PS Hollow point for me if I am sniping or hunting
1. Anti-gunners sure talk about penises a lot.
2. Being from Chicago, I'm not a big fan of the police in general.
3. I don't come here to talk about dogs.
4. This thread is 99% off-topic.
5. I'm sure you don't know what KIND of "hollowpoint". I use nothing but Sierra hollowpoints in both of my sniper rifles. They don't expand to any meaningful degree. The only reason why they ARE hollowpoints is that the jackets are drawn from base to tip to produce a uniform base, which greatly enhances accuracy.
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Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2009 01:54 am |
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nepawolf wrote: OK, brief OT intervention time.
Rob,
As Deanimator pointed out, there are multiple 50s. It would be a reasonable assumption that you had meant 50 BMG as that is the only one that is actually referred to as "50 cal" (except of course by kids trying to be cool). There is no OWB Don Hume holster made for 50 BMG rifles. Second, Don Hume is an overrated, overpriced mediocre holster.
I can't speak to the quality of Don Hume OWBs, but I love their 715M IWB. It's well made, stable in use and very reasonably priced. They're not made to be "tuckable", but are remarkably so anyway.
I have them for my Glock 19, Glock 22, M1911, Browning High Power and 3" S&W Model 65.
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Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2009 09:20 pm |
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insane.kangaroo wrote
Actually, that's all I need to know... Akita. They're known to have a bad attitude, especially if not trained correctly.
You mean a dog bred and used for police purposes has a bad disposition, is violent, and could be dangerous to your health??? I don't believe it
/sarcasm
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Gunslinger
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Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2009 09:36 pm |
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old dog wrote: It's time to acknowledge a tragic fact: There are too many cops out there who get up every day praying for a excuse to shoot somebody or something. Police work attracts those least fit for it.
You're exactly right. Too many cowards and crypto-sadists wear a badge. Pepper spray will stop a bear. Didn't this trigger happy pos have any? Look at the story of the MD badge wearing scum who shot two harmless Labs while violating the rights of their owner--a former mayor of the town, I believe. The good cops that tolerate these vermin shouldn't act surprised when they're broadbrushed with them. Too bad, but if the "decent"--and I use the term advisedly, don't flush the corrupt, they're no better.
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Gunslinger
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Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2009 09:40 pm |
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robgoozee wrote: What an absolute load of rubbish, You give most law abideing well educated americans a bad nome, For 1 we dont feel the need to bear arms, we have a police force and army that will quite capably do that for us which 2 allows us to sleep peacefully in our own homes away from the culture your living in where your afraid for your lives, 3 as for arms being used in race riots if your going to quote history do a little research and get it right, it started in the asian communities indian against pakistani, spilled over into the white communities, AND arms were never involved, i beleive in fact misuse of arms against a black or asian community was rife however in the beautiful south of the usa, which incedentally.............is also the country responsible for the total gang orientated drug infused culture that is leading to the spread of arms misuse in most developed nations as we speak, luckily for us here in the uk arms, drugs and idiots are tightly controlled and as such means we still have a handle on the situation, Over the water however would seem to be a different kettle of fish completely otherwise you wouldnt feel the need or urge to carry arms,
We do have a right to defend ourselves over here, always have and always will, we have the right to use force of an equall or lesser value to allow self defence/preservation, as we dont live in a gun culture thankfully, we dont all need to be armed.
As a subject, I wonder why you're on a forum about citizens. The UK's violent crime displaced from guns to knives, according to your Prime Minister, it didn't go away. Tell those imprisoned in Great Britain for defense of themselves about your "rights" before you criticize we who still have them.
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Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2009 09:49 pm |
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robgoozee wrote: SNIP....
What an absolute load of rubbish, You give most law abideing well educated americans a bad nome, For 1 we dont feel the need to bear arms, we have a police force and army that will quite capably do that for us which 2 allows us to sleep peacefully in our own homes...
I believe that may be the most ignorant statement I've seen thus far on this forum.
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Posted: Fri Jun 12th, 2009 04:42 pm |
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Hendu024 wrote: robgoozee wrote: SNIP....
What an absolute load of rubbish, You give most law abideing well educated americans a bad nome, For 1 we dont feel the need to bear arms, we have a police force and army that will quite capably do that for us which 2 allows us to sleep peacefully in our own homes...
I believe that may be the most ignorant statement I've seen thus far on this forum.
Apparently to him, Blacks and Asians killed in their homes by axe wielding White supremacists don't count.
Of course that ultra-rightwing noise machine... National Public Radio, could have been lying when they talked about it...
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HankT
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Deanimator wrote:
4. This thread is 99% off-topic.
Back on topic. This case also involves a cop shooting and killing a pooch. But the linkage to us the blowback (see the comments) that assuredly follows anyone shooting a pet for specious reasons. For a CCer or OCer to do what this Danville officer did would actually generate more blowback than this officer received.
Here is a new corollary to HankT's Postulate of Civilian Self Defense:
Shooting a small unarmed dog is a bad strategy.
Cops can get away with it. Ocers and CCers? Uh-uh.
Police justify shooting, killing 12-pound miniature dachshund in self-defense (VIDEO)
June 12, 8:39 PM
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"Killer" the miniature dachshund shot by a police officer.
(Richmond-Times Dispatch)Police in Danville, Virginia are defending the fatal shooting and killing of an 11 year-old miniature dachshund, claiming that the police officer who shot the 12-pound dog, acted reasonably and in self-defense.
"Shooting a dog which is actively presenting a threat to an officer is within the department's policy," states a press release issued by Danville Police Chief Phillip Broadfoot.
The diminutive dog, who had the ironic name of "Killer", was known as a "sweet, mild-mannered dog," reports the Richmond-Times Dispatch.
"He just kind of walked up and down the neighborhood and didn't bother anybody," said neighbor Jenine Edmunds. "He was just a little house dog."
Killer and his family --- Tawalin Harper, his wife and two kids --- live on a quiet cul-de sac. "He was the security guard around here," Harper said, explaining that Killer would bark whenever a strange car entered the cul-de-sac.
How did the shooting happen?
Earlier this week, a police officer pulled into the cul-de-sac to serve two warrants to a neighbor. As the officer --- whose name the police department is refusing to release --- returned to his car, "he was surprised by a growling dog running through the yard directly at him from the rear, leaving him with just seconds to consider his options," reads the police statement.
Police Chief Broadstreet said the officer's options in that instance were to run to the squad car, distract the dog, or use pepper spray, his baton or his firearm.
After Killer, allegedly "lunged at the officer and attacked him," the officer decided to draw his gun and shoot the aging 12-pound mini dachshund. Apparently, the officer feared great bodily harm --- perhaps to his ankles.
Harper's children, who were inside the house, heard the gunshot and called their father, who raced home to find Killer laying on the ground "with his guts hanging out.“
According to NBC4i, the officer leaned against his patrol car, smoking a cigarette. He refused to give Harper his name and badge number and said "he had to shoot the dog because he was barking at him."
When the officer's supervisor arrived on the scene, the supervisor/lieutenant was very sorry. "“He kept apologizing," recalls Harper. "And he said I know apologizing can’t bring the dog back, but I just don’t know what to say.“
The Harpers remain devastated at the loss of the dog they have had and loved for 11 years. "He was a family member," says a bewildered and saddened Harper. "They took a family member away."
http://www.examiner.com/x-1028-Pet-News-Examiner~y2009m6d12-Police-justify-defend-fatal-shooting-killing-of-12pound-miniature-dachshund-VIDEO
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| lol, i will tell you this now, i have an akita pit bull mix and im glad as hell that my family and i have him! he IS VERY PROTECTIVE over us, noone can come within 5 feet of us or even near our property line without him warning us! akitas are a very protective breed, and since you know so much about them you should already know this! i have 2 other dogs also, a cat and 3 young children ranging in age from 3 to 10 yrs old and he is great with them all! considering he was rescued from an abusive and neglectful owner! he is the best 100 lb lap and family dog i have ever met! Attached Image (viewed 35 times):
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dvdaughtry
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Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2009 01:38 pm |
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I think we should be a little more congenial to our British friends. After all, it was a bunch of Brits that gave us this. That, in turn, spawned this and this.
So from this grateful American, thank you. Great place you have over there.
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