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mpg9999
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Posted: Fri Feb 13th, 2009 05:25 pm |
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| I'm headed to PA tommorow (going to whitetail for some skiing). I have a VA CHP and I know we have reciprocity with PA. Are there an laws I should know about? Does PA require notification? I have to travel through MD, and I know I can't carry there. Does anyone know how I can legally transport it through the state? I'll be driving a minivan so there is no trunk. I do have a small fire safe I can lock things in.
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mpg9999
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Posted: Fri Feb 13th, 2009 05:33 pm |
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This is the law that I believe allows me to transport it through possibly unfriendly states:
§ 178.38 Transportation of firearms.
Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where such person may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where such person may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
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Falcon118
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Posted: Sat Feb 14th, 2009 03:02 am |
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| You have a permit and reciprocacy. Open and concealed carried are permitted almost anywhere. State and national parks are CC only at this time. Stay off property of schools, court houses make you check your firearm outside the metal detector. Federal buildings also prohibited. No duty to inform police. Other than that... have a GREAT time in PA!!
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skidmark
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Posted: Fri Mar 13th, 2009 02:29 am |
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Chiming in as I've got a trip to PA scheduled for the end of the month.
I'm used to having to OC in establishments that serve alcohol - what are the rules in PA? Also, does PA have anything specific about businesses posting no guns - like Texas' 30.06 signs or it does not count?
Thanks.
stay safe.
skidmark
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CowboyKen
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Posted: Fri Mar 13th, 2009 02:33 am |
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skidmark wrote: Chiming in as I've got a trip to PA scheduled for the end of the month.
I'm used to having to OC in establishments that serve alcohol - what are the rules in PA? Also, does PA have anything specific about businesses posting no guns - like Texas' 30.06 signs or it does not count?
Thanks.
stay safe.
skidmark
No rules limiting concealed carry, with a recognised permit, in establishments that serve alcohol or where some fool put up a sign. Have fun in PA and be safe.
Ken
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Jubbie
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Posted: Fri Mar 20th, 2009 03:47 pm |
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I too am headed out to PA at the end of the month. Y'all seemed to cover all my questions I couldn't find yet. Thanks for having a firearm friendly state, I'm happily flying over Ohio. Just sad I'll be too far away to grab another burger from Denny's Beer Barrel Pub.
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Jubbie
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Posted: Mon Mar 30th, 2009 03:20 am |
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I decided to not mess with checking bags in at the airport, which means I'm without my firearm. Got a beautiful state here, and y'all weren't kidding about hills. Only flat part I can find are the roads tunneling through the hills.
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mpg9999
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Posted: Fri Apr 24th, 2009 07:21 am |
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| Headed to PA again this weekend for a wedding. Any laws against carrying to a church in PA?
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Statkowski
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Posted: Fri Apr 24th, 2009 11:47 pm |
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| No prohibitions on churches or bars.
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gddb856
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 02:55 am |
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So how did you travel with your pistol?
From whats the interstate law stated, I assume i would have to have three locked cases?
One for the pistol, Mag, and Ammo?
I am from NC and will be traveling to Delaware county PA next week. I do have a CCW which i can CC in any state i travel through except Washington DC, and Maryland.
To be safe from hassle from cops in MD, i should have three locked cases/containers?
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Il_Duce
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 03:26 pm |
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Go around
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Dutch Uncle
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 04:37 am |
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Agree with Il Duce. Best to avoid MD; not only rabidly gun-unfriendly, but one of the most dangerous states in the union. (A co-incidence, I'm sure!)
If you must go through, keep everything locked, empty and out of reach, don't stop anywhere, even to get gas if you can, and choose the shortest possible route through the state. The Federal Peaceable Journey law will keep you safe if the journey is absolutely continuous.
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Il_Duce
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 08:44 am |
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Just to be on the safe side, let me reiterate.
Go around.
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Statkowski
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 12:58 pm |
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Only flat part I can find are the roads tunneling through the hills.
Not totally true, most of them are going either uphill or downhill. Of course if you're walking, it's uphill in both directions.
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virginiatuck
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Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2009 11:17 pm |
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I realize this is an old thread and the weekend is long gone. For future reference, two options to get from Northern Virginia to Pennsylvania:
- 0 miles in MD: take US-50W and then just before the the Maryland line you take a detour southwest and skirt along the border of WV until you rejoin with US-50W when it enters WV. Ride I-79N into PA. The detour is between 10-20 miles if I recall correctly. You'll drive through part of the Monongahela National Forest. Some of this route, 50 and the detour, can get very bad in the winter.
- ~2 miles in MD: take US-522N to Hancock, MD. Ride US-522N into PA. That's the narrowest MD crossing I could find. This keeps you on fairly major roadways as opposed to the other route that uses some local, secondary roadways.
- ~10 miles in MD: take US-50W. Ride I-79N into PA.
There are little shortcuts here and there that you may find; these are only general directions.
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fingers80002
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Posted: Sun Jun 28th, 2009 04:50 pm |
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Signs do carry legal weight in Pa.
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CowboyKen
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Posted: Sun Jun 28th, 2009 06:19 pm |
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fingers80002 wrote: Signs do carry legal weight in Pa.
Would you care to explain, and/or support, this statement?
Ken
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virginiatuck
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Posted: Sun Jun 28th, 2009 08:03 pm |
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CowboyKen wrote: fingers80002 wrote: Signs do carry legal weight in Pa.
Would you care to explain, and/or support, this statement?
Ken
In Pennsylvania, you are not trespassing if you enter lands that are not your own unless it is posted or you have received a verbal notification from the owner/lessee.
Hunting is very common throughout Pennsylvania; and required in order to check the deer population. Some owners, about 30% according to a state survey, do not post their land and allow others to hunt or use the property for other recreational purposes. Pennsylvania has gone so far as to legally limit the liability of the property owner for those using the property as long as they are not charged admission. [T. 68 P.S., Ch. 11] This encourages people to leave their property un-posted.
As for the posted "NO TRESPASSING" sign legality:
18 Pa.C.S.A. § 3503 Criminal Trespass.
(b) Defiant trespasser.--
(1) A person commits an offense if, knowing that he is not licensed or privileged to do so, he enters or remains in any place as to which notice against trespass is given by:
(i) actual communication to the actor;
(ii) posting in a manner prescribed by law or reasonably likely to come to the attention of intruders;
(iii) fencing or other enclosure manifestly designed to exclude intruders;
(iv) notices posted in a manner prescribed by law or reasonably likely to come to the person's attention at each entrance of school grounds that visitors are prohibited without authorization from a designated school, center or program official; or
(v) an actual communication to the actor to leave school grounds as communicated by a school, center or program official, employee or agent or a law enforcement officer.
(2) Except as provided in paragraph (1)(v), an offense under this subsection constitutes a misdemeanor of the third degree if the offender defies an order to leave personally communicated to him by the owner of the premises or other authorized person. An offense under paragraph (1)(v) constitutes a misdemeanor of the first degree. Otherwise it is a summary offense.
Last edited on Sun Jun 28th, 2009 08:08 pm by virginiatuck
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