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Mike
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 06:29 pm |
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And keep hitting the poll fe "Beale Street Tactics"!
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http://www.wmctv.com/global/story.asp?s=10551474
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Somebody needs to file a federal lawsuit under 42 USC 1983 seeking an emergency injunction as violative of the Fourth Amendment.
Mike Stollenwerk
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"Sept. 11, 2001, already a day of immeasurable tragedy, cannot be the day liberty perished in this country."
-- Judge Gerald Tjoflat, writing for the unanimous 11th federal Circuit Court of Appeals panel quashing the use of metal detectors to "screen" demonstrators in public areas on 15 October 2004 in
Bourgeouis v. Peters, Dozier, and the City of Columbus, GA at http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/11th/0216886p.pdf.
Last edited on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 09:00 pm by Mike
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falcon1
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 06:51 pm |
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Link is about SAF and DC?
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Mike
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 06:57 pm |
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falcon1 wrote: Link is about SAF and DC? fixed, thanks.
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Brass Magnet
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 07:02 pm |
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Mike wrote: And keep hitting the poll!
I just hit the poll and Egads! Freedom is losing! People better keep hitting it up.
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rpyne
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 07:04 pm |
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falcon1 wrote: Link is about SAF and DC?
I just followed both links and they go exactly where they say they do. The first to the story about Beale Street and the second to the court decision.
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TFred
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 07:56 pm |
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In keeping with the age-old theme: "Criminals Are Stupid", it's always nice when people go on the record in a newspaper article when they plan to break the law.
Action should be swift and punitive. I want to see arrests. Of course, there are laws for anti-gunners (which are apparently just suggestions), and there are laws for the rest of us... there will be no arrests... I'd be surprised if anything at all is done. Such is the world of double standards in which we live.
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KansasMustang
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 08:08 pm |
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Seems to me that these folks are taking the law into their own hands. They've already lost that battle but they think they can overturn it on the streets. That's called vigilante law where i come from, and it's as illegal as if it was the other way around. If I lived in TN I'd march on down there and with a good number of my OC-ing friends we'd just wait for the S*#t to hit the fan. Then let the Supreme court of TN rule on it. But that's just me sayin it.
The other side of it is that John Elkington in the article said he was going to take whatever steps necessary to make sure you're safe. So if anyone gets shot by BG's God forbid,,,,sue HIM.
Typo edit
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Mike
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 08:16 pm |
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I'm thinking some open carriers might need to try to visit Beale st. and be barred entry to ensure they have standing to sue.
Can somebody in TN take the lead on this, find out the particulars, and consider filing a lawsuit? Under Section 1983 prevailing Plaintiffs usually recoup atty fees and costs.
I think we need to take a stand now against "Beale Street Tactics" or every localitiy in the coutnry will start doing monkey see, monkee do policy making.
Last edited on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 09:01 pm by Mike
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tito887
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 09:44 pm |
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| If the bars truly do not want guns in their property then I see no problem with that. Let the liberty community vote with their dollars. Maybe they will be fine without the money. Maybe not. Of course I don't see how they can ban firearms on sidewalks.
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rpyne
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 10:04 pm |
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tito887 wrote: If the bars truly do not want guns in their property then I see no problem with that. Let the liberty community vote with their dollars. Maybe they will be fine without the money. Maybe not. Of course I don't see how they can ban firearms on sidewalks.
"Their" property is fine, but the public street outside is a completely different story. The ONLY way that would be legal is if the property owners went in together and bought the street from the city.
Using the price paid and the inflation rate from a case here in Utah where a private entity bought a block of a street from a city, it should be worth about $50 million per block.
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DoubleR
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 10:31 pm |
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| Not only is it illegal to block a public street... It's one of the dumbest boneheaded ideas I've ever heard of. The no's are still losing...
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carracer
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 12:02 am |
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| 6pm mtn time and yes at 63%
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Bullbuster
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 03:30 am |
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I just hit the poll and it was....
60%--YES
40%--NO
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Mike
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 03:52 am |
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Do any of you TN residents know the details about Beale Street?
What about setting up a protest outside Beale St. if police in fact do establish an illegal gun ban check point? I wonder if tourists will come to see the picket line too?
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Huck
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 05:05 am |
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"John Elkington of Performa Entertainment says he wants to offer muggers and other thugs the opportunity to visit Beale without the fear of encountering armed citizens."
There ya go John, fixed it for you!
"Merchants will have to cover the cost, but they say it's worth it to maintain Beale Street's reputation as one of the country's safest entertainment districts."
There's a "safe" district in Memphis? And how is making the area a crime encouragement zone going to make it safe?
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Geoff
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 05:38 am |
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| I just voted and its 59% yes 41% no. We're making headway, but not much.
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Task Force 16
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 07:12 am |
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| The wmctv link doesn't work.
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rpyne
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 01:52 pm |
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Task Force 16 wrote: The wmctv link doesn't work.
I just voted again:
43% no, 57% yes.
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Tex4OC
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 02:42 pm |
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Stayed on it from 43% til we hit 51% but I REALLY need to go to work now, can someone take over for a bit? Exit story, clear your cookies, then go back and hit it again.
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dfox
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 02:45 pm |
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No = 51
Yes = 49
Last edited on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 02:46 pm by dfox
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