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Dallas: Your gun for groceries.
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gzcp31
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 Posted: Wed Feb 25th, 2009 11:38 pm
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http://cityhallblog.dallasnews.com/a...-gift-car.html

Your gun for groceries.

That's the goal of a gun buyback from 9 a.m. to noon Saturday at Reunion Arena, during which each unloaded, operational firearm surrendered will fetch a $50 Kroger grocery gift card.

People trading in their guns must present identification, city officials say.

"It would be a failure on our part if we do not take an initiative," said Deputy Mayor Pro Tem Dwaine Caraway, who is helping lead the effort.

Event sponsors include Dallas Police, KBFB-FM 97.9 "The Beat," and KSOC-FM 94.5, One-Dallas, Univision 23, Schepps Dairy and Better Dallas Safer Dallas.

Dallas is not using public money to purchase the gift cards, which Kroger is providing at a 30 percent discount to event sponsors, Dallas spokesman Frank Librio said.

Meanwhile, Dallas writer and gun rights advocate Trey Garrison says he may conduct an alternative gun buyback of his own -- with better prices for sellers. He says he'll pay in cash, too.

How much might Garrison spend?

"Depends on what the hardware is," he tells us.
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 Posted: Fri Feb 27th, 2009 04:47 pm
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So who is it that thinks that guns cost $50?

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 Posted: Sat Feb 28th, 2009 05:50 am
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There are a lot of stupid anti gun people out there that think people are going to take $50 for guns costing from $200 -$1000.

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 Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2009 03:03 pm
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...I saw the news videos last night...some people did just that...one turned in 5 guns because he didn't use them anymore...and needed the grocery money...most pictured were Lorcins, Ravens...I have my doubts if the good ones will be destroyed, though....

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 Posted: Mon Mar 2nd, 2009 04:23 pm
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sheepdog wrote: ...I saw the news videos last night...some people did just that...one turned in 5 guns because he didn't use them anymore...and needed the grocery money...most pictured were Lorcins, Ravens...I have my doubts if the good ones will be destroyed, though...."and he needed the grocery money."

WTF! He could've at least gone to gunbroker.com and gotten a LOT of grocery money! At least he would be selling the gun to someone who wouldn't destroy it or lock it up and throw away the key.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 2nd, 2009 08:48 pm
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...oh, but that would take common sense...which he obviously didn't have much of....he could have probably gotten $800+...but instead he got what he deserved for having a bleeding heart....now the Lorcin and Raven folks made money on the deal and that makes them good businessmen....:D

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 Posted: Mon Mar 2nd, 2009 08:59 pm
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sheepdog wrote: ...oh, but that would take common sense...which he obviously didn't have much of....he could have probably gotten $800+...but instead he got what he deserved for having a bleeding heart....now the Lorcin and Raven folks made money on the deal and that makes them good businessmen....:D
I dont know, I bought a 25 cal Raven back in '89 from a pawn shop and it cost $50.  I would have only broken even.  Now I do have a Rohm 38 cal that I will probably never put a round thru that I thought about taking down there but did not.

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 Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2009 04:51 am
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GUYS... I am freaking floored here-

WHAT is going on down there? WHY haven't you all had a RIOT- DEMANDING that your rights be restored!!!?????

I am shocked, please PLEASE excuse me!!

So, I'm traveling to Dallas via airline at the end of the month and decided to check before I come down with my one-in-the-chamber-pistol and holster on my side in open view, like I do here in Kansas City.. You know, to see if it's ok to go into banks and the post office with my firearm, because I just KNOW that it's OK in Texas, come one, it's TEXAS!!!

So, seriously, Dallas is NOT OC?? At all?? I just need clarification here, I just don't believe it.. and I would think that the residents would be so OUTRAGED that they would not rest a second until the law was overturned..

So, I can walk around, wherever I want, in KC, OC, with NO CCW, and it's ok, but not in TEXAS?? Come on... this HAS to be a mistake.

Can I at least fly in with a firearm in my luggage?   WooooWWWhttp://WWW......

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 Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2009 08:30 am
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prophettm,

Yeah, lots of "outsiders" think that about Texas...that we can OC here, of all places. But that's kind of like the other erroneous images people have of TX: That we all wear cowboy hats, boots and ride horses roping cattle. ;)

Yes, TX lost OC as a result of some court case in 1872 I believe...when the carpet-baggers were afraid of "disgruntled" ex-Confederates carrying and Northern troops were the Army of Occupation here during "Reconstruction" (what a joke). Some also say it was a way to keep former slaves (blacks) from carrying, too, but I don't know about that.

Whatever, it's been that way ever since...

I don't know of even ONE state that has the kind of gun laws -- or lack thereof -- that reflects true freedom re: the RKBA, but TX is "severely retarded" when it comes to OC-ing. At least we can carry a handgun in our cars more easily now...but OC-ing remains elusive. Carrying long guns openly (or in your car, etc.) are not (nor have they been) an issue but handguns have been and still are.

Sorry to disappoint you.  :(

-- John D.



Last edited on Thu Apr 9th, 2009 08:41 am by cloudcroft

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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2009 05:48 am
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prophettm wrote: GUYS... I am freaking floored here-

WHAT is going on down there? WHY haven't you all had a RIOT- DEMANDING that your rights be restored!!!?????

I am shocked, please PLEASE excuse me!!

So, I'm traveling to Dallas via airline at the end of the month and decided to check before I come down with my one-in-the-chamber-pistol and holster on my side in open view, like I do here in Kansas City.. You know, to see if it's ok to go into banks and the post office with my firearm, because I just KNOW that it's OK in Texas, come one, it's TEXAS!!!

So, seriously, Dallas is NOT OC?? At all?? I just need clarification here, I just don't believe it.. and I would think that the residents would be so OUTRAGED that they would not rest a second until the law was overturned..

So, I can walk around, wherever I want, in KC, OC, with NO CCW, and it's ok, but not in TEXAS?? Come on... this HAS to be a mistake.

Can I at least fly in with a firearm in my luggage?   WooooWWWhttp://WWW......

As a native Texan living in Virginia, I totaly agree. I am outraged that I have more freedom here than back home. I can, and do OC damn near anywhere in Virginia. In Texas I have trouble even CCing depending on my clothing.  It's embarassing to say the least.

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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2009 02:51 pm
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Being a Texas resident since 1969 - and having openly worn a holstered handgun without incident on occassion in a rural unincorporated community in far West Texas - /enforcement of this OC ban is primarily an urban issue.  The Metro- Houston area being the primary center of enforcement of handgun "laws" over recent decades.

Texans have become brain-washed over this issue  and the "philosophy"- if you want to call it that -   has set-up , coalesced since the CHL law in 1995.  Since the CHL was introduced , Texas thinks the RKBA has been returned to the people.[if they are not behind on child support, student loan, or owe any State taxes, etc]

I think the CHL has actually further restricted the OC right in Texas due the the construction of the provision dealing with "failure to conceal" for CHL holders.  This provision was intended to satisfy concerns over intentional "brandishing" behavior.  The scenario where a personal dispute results in a CHL holder deliberately  displaying a previously concealed HG in order to threaten a person.  The present patch-work of handgun restricting "laws" makes no sense.

The reason for selectively restricting the carry of a handgun is for ONE reason and one reason only - CONCEALABILITY.   If you do not hold a CHL - you can legally OC from your residence [ or any premises under your control, or from engagement in any excepted activity] in a direct route to your vehicle. But if you DO HOLD a CHL you are violating the penal code for failing to conceal - go figure !  The concern again - that a HG be CONCEALED in the vehicle [and elsewhere] is to prevent "brandishment" in order to threaten or menace another in non life -threatening confrontations.

I think it suffices to reflect on the fact that unjustified brandishing in order to menace another is adequately addressed in the penal code.  One immediate  remedy for this exercise in stupidity is for the Texas Attorney General to issue a formal opinion clarifying the CONCEALMENT concerns "to prevent crime", and confine enforcement of "intentional, knowing, or reckless failure to conceal"  to actual menacing conduct.  Even an advisory opinion would help put this matter into sane perspective.  I think 20,000 letters to the Governor requesting such an AG review of this matter just might result in some effective resolution of this problem.    

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 Posted: Thu Jun 4th, 2009 04:17 pm
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Before we were married, my wife had given to her (for protection purposes due to the area she was living in), a .25 pistol.  Very cheap.  Jams about ever other round.  Sundance or Sunset arms or some crazy thing.  Made in California.  I call them a "saturday night special."  Well, after we got together and were married, I refused to let her carry it.  She wanted a fairly small gun, so we picked out a Bersa Thunder 380 for her, which although still fairly inexpensive, a much better quality firarm than this piece of crap.

I would gladly take that .25 in for the $50.  I don't think it's worth $10, but I'll take $50 for it!

Last edited on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 04:21 pm by arvetus

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 Posted: Thu Jun 4th, 2009 05:47 pm
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Out of all the strategies and tactics that LE, antis and governments advocate and use in the U.S. to address gun violence problems, I can think of none more ineffective to their very own interests than the standard gun buyback.

It really amazes me that LE/antis/government consortium is so foolish as to even engage in this tactic.

It kinda bugs me even more that the pro-gunners insist on criticizing these gun buybacks or the people who turn in their guns.

Hey, let them do their little buybacks. Their effects are insignificant ( even considering PR credits. And it keeps the consortium busy.

Allow the enemy to expend energy while we conserve ours for other battles.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 02:47 am
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Get some $75 Kroger gift cards and set up a card table before Reunion arena.. if there's something decent snap it up ahead of time, any cheap nasties can go in and get the $50 card.. think they'd be ok with that?


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