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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 08:05 pm |
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| 90 days from the time your check clears.
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bmeldrum
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 03:42 pm |
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I'm curious now: this 60-90 days after they process the payment, is this calendar days or working business days (as they are only open Mon-Thur 7am-6pm) & closed on holidays. So would that be calendar or business days?
Because if it's calendar days than I'm at 67days, but if it's business days than I'm only at like 40 days. Patient is not a virtue for me, I hate waiting...
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thx997303
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 04:28 pm |
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Man, something needs to be done, the law says 60 days, not 90.
Pissin me off, and i'm not even waiting for a permit yet.
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JohnnyBlk45
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 04:39 pm |
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thx997303 wrote:
Man, something needs to be done, the law says 60 days, not 90.
Pissin me off, and i'm not even waiting for a permit yet.
I know the feeling 
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JohnnyBlk45
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 04:40 pm |
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bmeldrum wrote:
I'm curious now: this 60-90 days after they process the payment, is this calendar days or working business days (as they are only open Mon-Thur 7am-6pm) & closed on holidays. So would that be calendar or business days?
Because if it's calendar days than I'm at 67days, but if it's business days than I'm only at like 40 days. Patient is not a virtue for me, I hate waiting...
I think it's business day but I could be wrong.
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SGT Jensen
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 06:00 pm |
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Divegeek (swillden) has been tracking this data, and has put together a handy spreadsheet.
http://www.utahconcealedcarry.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5497
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Mark (IL)
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David59 wrote:
Mailed 2/10/09, check cashed 3/10/09, issued 5/20/09 and in my hands 5/26/09.
Also received a letter stating that "this permit is valid contingent on a satisfactory criminal history report being received from the FBI" It also states that my permit may be revoked if my fingerprint card is rejected. 
They send me a letter a few weeks after issuing, indicating that my fingerprint card had been rejected, and asked for a new one (I have practically no ridges, am hard to print). Sent a new one from a Livescan Electronic outfit, and heard no more from them...
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 06:00 pm |
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I called the BCI this morning to check on the status of my permit application. The gentleman I spoke to was very nice. He informed me that they no longer do courtesy status checks and the total processing time for applications is now 4.5 months!  The UT legislature really needs to provide them with more funding for the next calendar year...
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bmeldrum
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 06:23 pm |
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TommyJ1912 wrote: I called the BCI this morning to check on the status of my permit application. The gentleman I spoke to was very nice. He informed me that they no longer do courtesy status checks...
I called the BCI this morning also & asked to know about the status of my permit application. The lady was also nice & she just asked when did the payment get processed? I told her it was on April 9th. She said "we haven't gotten to the April 9th apps, it'll probably be another week or two". So sounds like they sort the files based on the payment date...
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JohnnyBlk45
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 06:39 pm |
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| I received my Utah conceal carry permit last week, I was so happy. I know Utah allows OC so why does the permit state CC permit.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 06:52 pm |
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JohnnyBlk45 wrote: I received my Utah conceal carry permit last week, I was so happy. I know Utah allows OC so why does the permit state CC permit.
Because no permit is required for OC.
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JohnnyBlk45
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 07:35 pm |
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rpyne wrote:
JohnnyBlk45 wrote: I received my Utah conceal carry permit last week, I was so happy. I know Utah allows OC so why does the permit state CC permit.
Because no permit is required for OC.
Thanks for confirming.
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thx997303
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 09:08 pm |
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Nobody else is upset about the long wait times? The law says what? 60 days?
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bmeldrum
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 09:42 pm |
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thx997303 wrote: Nobody else is upset about the long wait times? The law says what? 60 days?
I think (speaking for myself) it's just easier to try to be patient (learn patience) instead of complaining. I'm frustrated about the wait time but I can live with carrying openly. Certainly if we all speak up and address the issues to those that can make a difference (congress man/women & the legislators, people in our community), if we take an active role in those settings than perhaps we can make a difference! AMEN!
(that's my soap box for the day) 
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ProtectedBy9mm
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 09:47 pm |
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thx997303 wrote: Nobody else is upset about the long wait times?...
This is why i applied for Florida's CFP... got it in 55 days. Its a bit more expensive ($117), not counting whatever you spend on your CFP course), but guess what: Its in my wallet. AND its for 7 years, not 5.
The law says what? 60 days?
Lolz,- yea, the law also says you can legally OC in Utah, but that doesn't stop anyone from giving us flak, or trying to impede in some way..
Hopefully it won't be too much longer for ya'll! hang in there. 
bmeldrum wrote:......it's just easier to try to be patient (learn patience) instead of complaining....but I can live with carrying openly....
+1
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 12:44 am |
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Aw, remembering the "good ol' days." I took my class in 2002 on a Saturday, went to the BCI on Monday (two days later) with the paperwork, got my permit (in the mail!) on Thursday. Total time between class and receiving permit -- 5 days.
I renewed a couple of years ago, and that took quite a bit more time.
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 05:50 am |
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Well today was the day! I got home, checked the mail and there it was, the letter from the Department of Public safety with what felt like a card inside. Oh it was even better than when I got my mission call. Opened it up and there it was!  So in all: payment went through April 9th than July 1st received my permit!! Happy day! Of course I'll continue to oc and exercise my rights...Last edited on Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 06:56 pm by bmeldrum
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 07:02 pm |
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So now that I have my permit I'm trying to brush up on where I can & can't go. As a permit holder I can pretty much go anywhere, other than: (Airport secure areas, 2. Court secure areas, 3. Jail secure areas, 4. Post Offices, 5. National Parks and monuments, 6. Federal Buildings, 7. Correctional and Mental Health Facilities, 8. A house of worship (posted with BCI), 9. A residence if notice is given (posted sign).
I can (now being a permit holder) enter school zones, UTA/TRAXS (does it have to be cc or oc in those areas)?.
Also from reading on the BCI site & looking at the maps here, I can go to any of the 33 states (that recognize Utah permits) and can CC or OC or both?
Than pretty much anywhere else following the 'don't ask, don't tell policy" right?
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 08:09 pm |
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ProtectedBy9mm wrote: thx997303 wrote: Nobody else is upset about the long wait times?...
bmeldrum wrote:......it's just easier to try to be patient (learn patience) instead of complaining....but I can live with carrying openly....
+1
Yes, it may be easier, but unfortunately the BCI is breaking the law through their little self made loophole, one that is also frequently broken.
They are breaking the law, and should definitely be fought about it.
Who should I contact about this? My first instinct would be The AG, is this correct?
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thx997303 wrote:
Yes, it may be easier, but unfortunately the BCI is breaking the law through their little self made loophole, one that is also frequently broken.
They are breaking the law, and should definitely be fought about it.
Who should I contact about this? My first instinct would be The AG, is this correct?
Nothing the AG can do. You see, while the law requires permits to be issued within 90 days, it imposes no penalty for failure to do so, nor relief to those affected. A passage of scripture from the Book of Mormon reads, "Where there is no penalty, there is no law." I'm not sure that made a lot of sense to me until this situation with the BCI arose.
Without a penalty or a relief, the law really means nothing.
So your best bet is to contact your State legislators and ask them to change the law by imposing some penalty or relief. And if you come up with a really good idea on how to force the BCI to comply let me know, I'll be very supportive. But I haven't yet figured out a good way to go about doing it that would not also greatly undermine the integrity of our permit.
Charles
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