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gunsfreak4791
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 04:00 am |
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Well shopping with my wife at the general Army Navy Store. What happens four TVPD officers show up ID Me ask me to conceal my firearm. I tell them no it is legal for me to carry my firearm. I told them I would leave the store instead.
I got in my car called the Taylorsville Police Chief Del Craig and had him tell their officers it was okay for me to do so I handed my phone to
LT Roise Rivera they chatted for a min handed my phone back to me. told me to have a nice day and that I will not be concealing my firearm. And told them to have a nice day.
I will be filling a complaint against the officers involved. all four of them including Roise Rivera
I have to say the staff at the store was in support of me open carrying and shoppers as well had a fellow OC'er there who was very supportive hope to see his post as well. Went very well no handcuffs this time.
Hope for some better results next time from TVPD who still remains anti gun.
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SGT Jensen
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 05:53 am |
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| Sheesh man! Do the police in Salt Lake County have "wanted posters" of you or something? What's with all of the attention?
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gunsfreak4791
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 06:37 am |
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| Having a bad week not sure. Maybe it was my dennim shorts and sandals. Trying to just stay low key maybe should go back to black pants and black shirt.
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 07:16 am |
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That sucks that you are being sought after.  Good to see that the LEO's are being informed though.
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b1ack5mith
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 08:33 am |
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| So what number did you call in this incident? All I do is tell them to show me the law where it FORCES me to conceal, or where it shows that it's illegal for someone under 21 to carry. I'm glad you called about that! We should go from county to county, informing all the police dept's
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thx997303
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 03:36 pm |
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| Holy crap man, I OCed for about a year and only had two police encounters. And I started before the PDs were becoming "informed"
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gunsfreak4791
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 04:16 pm |
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I had the cell-phone number for the Chief from a previous experience.
Once I stuck to my guns about not concealing my firearm the police backed down.
BTW LT Roise Rivera the media lady may appear nice on TV but kind of bitter and not a friend of law abiding citizens
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Francis Marion
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 07:10 pm |
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I pulled into the parking lot on my bike and noticed a police officer it the parking lot to the south just standing around. Shortly after I entered General Army Navy Surplus he entered the store with another officer and they began a coordinated search of the store. They were soon joined by two other officers. I first though someone robbed the store next door and they were looking for the perp in GANS. I began paying for my purchase at the cash register by the front door when someone at the cashier in the center of the store mentioned something like, "He had a gun." The cashier ringing me up said, "There's nothing wrong with that." It was about this time that the police found gunsfreak.
When I had finished paying for my stuff I walked over to provide some moral support but the issue seemed to have been resolved. I figured that anyone who openly carried a gun and resolved the issue so quickly must be a frequent visitor here. We introduced ourselves and walked out of the store together while the store employees kept saying that they didn't call the police and had no problem with him carrying.
I suspect the call came from a couple that were sitting in their car in front of the store. Meanwhile, I'm concerned that T-ville PD has enough officers just sitting around with nothing better to do than harass people who are doing nothing wrong. Either they are over staffed or miss managed; either way, the problem needs to be corrected.
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b1ack5mith
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 07:47 pm |
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if i become a cop (which i really want to do) ill straighten all the utah cops out 
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Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2009 05:02 am |
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Sounds like time for an FOIA request on any and all police communications on the incident, and the filing of a formal complaint for waste of police resources and a request for additional training.
Francis Marion wrote:
I pulled into the parking lot on my bike and noticed a police officer it the parking lot to the south just standing around. Shortly after I entered General Army Navy Surplus he entered the store with another officer and they began a coordinated search of the store. They were soon joined by two other officers. I first though someone robbed the store next door and they were looking for the perp in GANS. I began paying for my purchase at the cash register by the front door when someone at the cashier in the center of the store mentioned something like, "He had a gun." The cashier ringing me up said, "There's nothing wrong with that." It was about this time that the police found gunsfreak.
When I had finished paying for my stuff I walked over to provide some moral support but the issue seemed to have been resolved. I figured that anyone who openly carried a gun and resolved the issue so quickly must be a frequent visitor here. We introduced ourselves and walked out of the store together while the store employees kept saying that they didn't call the police and had no problem with him carrying.
I suspect the call came from a couple that were sitting in their car in front of the store. Meanwhile, I'm concerned that T-ville PD has enough officers just sitting around with nothing better to do than harass people who are doing nothing wrong. Either they are over staffed or miss managed; either way, the problem needs to be corrected.
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gunsfreak4791
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Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2009 05:31 am |
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| It is being done I have a meeting with the chief of police monday.
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Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2009 05:50 am |
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| That's awesome! Let us know how it goes.
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SGT Jensen
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Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2009 05:53 am |
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b1ack5mith wrote: if i become a cop (which i really want to do) ill straighten all the utah cops out
If you become a cop, then "I will kick you in the nuts!" 
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Francis Marion
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 06:30 am |
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BTW, I have OC'd into the Taylorsville PD on at least 2 occasions and it wasn't exactly inconspicuous because I was there to get my finger prints taken.
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gunsfreak4791
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 06:44 am |
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lol thats how I met Chief Del-Craig was OC when I was speaking to him about my last run in with his officer at summers wood Apt complex Charges were dropped
The only thing he said was you can't bring that into court. Other then that it was never brought up
Wish his officers would understand this
I am making it very clear I will be at taylorsville days on the 26th and I want no problems with his officers while I am their
And will request more training and senstivity training for their officers.
I hope to have a productive meeting and will post the results soon
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Nuttycomputer
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 03:39 pm |
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gunsfreak4791 wrote: lol thats how I met Chief Del-Craig was OC when I was speaking to him about my last run in with his officer at summers wood Apt complex Charges were dropped
The only thing he said was you can't bring that into court. Other then that it was never brought up
Wish his officers would understand this
I am making it very clear I will be at taylorsville days on the 26th and I want no problems with his officers while I am their
And will request more training and senstivity training for their officers.
I hope to have a productive meeting and will post the results soon
Hey! I'm going to be attending Taylorsville Dayz as well. Hope to see you there. I'll be OC my 9mm S&W in a Serpa Holster while with my Wife and In-Laws probably.
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Francis Marion
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 06:02 am |
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I plan to be in the Taylorsville Dayz parade OCing...
wearing this...
and driving this...
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thx997303
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 09:13 pm |
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| Where did you get that beautiful GPW?
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Francis Marion
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 02:51 pm |
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First, it's a MUTT and not a GPW, and I got it from a team mate in Iraq who lives at Twentynine Palms, CA.
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gunsfreak4791
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 04:00 pm |
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| Awsome uniform and vechicle.
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