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SGT Jensen State Researcher

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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 10:31 pm |
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Senator Chris Buttars represents the West Jordan area.
Get some proof to him, and he'll make some heads spin. 
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XDdude Regular Member

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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 12:56 am |
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| I work with carlj and KaleIsbell and I seen carlj and the officer in discussion. It was Officer Caughey (Coy). I am a long time reader but first time poster as well. I hope this will help.
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gunsfreak4791 Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 02:08 am |
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Then one of you need to take action contact your elected officials or West Jordan Brass and rersolve this issue.
You need to get a plan of action maybe start by contacting his Sgt or Command and talking with them about it. If that does not work move to the next step.
I can't call them for you because it did not happen to me. So can one of you commit to contacting his SGT or LT or Capt tommorow. I am pretty sure this will resolve the issue without much further action.
Be sure to get names and times when contacting these officials. you will be suprised on how quickly this issue becomes not a issue.
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Zach 801-448-7574
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 02:58 am |
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KalelIsbell wrote: An officer for West Jordan City just informed us that if you are seen carring a gun in West Jordan and someone calls and complains, they will and i quote" have 10 officers surround, you throw you to the ground, point guns at your head, arrest you,
confiscate your gun, and site you for being a public nuisance" end quote, they are not going to talk to you, in fact the office was very angry about the whole idea of open carry ...He then said you may get your gun back, but you will not get out of the citation...
why are you asking the police for legal advice? This is what you will almost always get - nuttery.
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 03:07 am |
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Sounds like you guys need to take action on this. Can't have this sort of opinion enforcement from PUBLIC SERVANTS.
The People are in power. Remember that.
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XDdude Regular Member

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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 04:04 am |
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| carlj and KaleIsbell tried to get a hold of the top brass today but were unable to get in contact with anyone. We will try again tomorrow, I live in WJ and OC often. I am new to OCing and haven't had any bad experiences nor do I want one. I want this resolved ASAP.Thanks to all for the info and a point in direction.
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 04:41 am |
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| Keep us posted
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XDdude Regular Member

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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 04:50 am |
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| For sure! Thanks again!
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 05:06 am |
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10 people pointing guns at my head? sounds like going trick-or-treating as a sheet ghost in LA (if you dont get this joke, you've lived a very sheltered life)
in all seriousness, those officers could'nt get away with that... they would get introuble for it for sure.
Utahjarhead, there is no such thing as a badge #... not trying to be a jerk or anything. I was told that by "SGT. Jensen (not our sgt. jensen)" of provo PD. He was the dude I called to complain about provo's off duty officer who knew nothing about laws in general, and had a fun time making up laws as he went along.
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UtahJarhead Regular Member

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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 05:15 am |
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Gotcha. I guess I've watched waaaaay too many movies!
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 05:51 am |
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we all have! but thats what the liberals want!!! like heres somethin i laughed at... it was a movie (woody harrelson was in it, it was a comedy, cant remember the name) anyway, a liquor store or whatever was robbed... and the shopkeep pulled out a shotgun and shot at the bad guy... well, the police showed up, and the first thing the cop said was "do you have a permit for that weapon?" LMFAO!
silly liberals, rights are for patriots! (pray TRIX cereal doesn't sue me)
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XDdude Regular Member

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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 11:33 pm |
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I talked with Chief McGuire of the WJPD. He was very helpful and informative, They do recognize state law. However they may come in hot depending on how the call came in but should be quickly resolved with no tickets and no arrest. He is also going to set Officer Caughey straight and inform him they do not have a policy outside of the states. Thanks for everyone's input and you should be safe carrying in WJ!
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 11:35 pm |
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Well, I'd say that classifies you as 'not a troll'. Thanks for the reply about the WJPD. Good to know it's just one hot-head and not a departmental issue (we hope).
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gunsfreak4791 Regular Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 12:00 am |
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Thank you very much for posting this.
I am sorry if I came off rude in my first postings
I hope you Open Carry Often and come to some of the Meet Ups
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Zach 801-448-7574
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 03:39 am |
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XDdude wrote: However they may come in hot depending on how the call came in...
Unacceptable. If that is the case they should be sure all of the dispatch people know what questions to ask... Some fool panicking is never cause for my rights to be violated.
Thanks for talking to the brass!
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SGT Jensen State Researcher

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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 07:03 pm |
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b1ack5mith wrote: Utahjarhead, there is no such thing as a badge #... not trying to be a jerk or anything. I was told that by "SGT. Jensen (not our sgt. jensen)" of provo PD.
This may be true for Provo PD, but some departments do in fact have a badge number. I know that Lehi uses them.
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XDdude Regular Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 8th, 2009 04:06 am |
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Thanks all for the backup and encouragement. Under the circumstances it was a little intimidating. I'm glad it had a good outcome. Thanks again and I do look forward to meeting all of you at one of the upcoming events
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Posted: Sun Nov 8th, 2009 05:10 am |
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SGT Jensen wrote: b1ack5mith wrote: Utahjarhead, there is no such thing as a badge #... not trying to be a jerk or anything. I was told that by "SGT. Jensen (not our sgt. jensen)" of provo PD.
This may be true for Provo PD, but some departments do in fact have a badge number. I know that Lehi uses them.
What you want is some way to identify the officer uanbiguously when filing the complaint with his duty sergeant, lieutenant, captain, or chief. Many police officers now carry business cards. Ask for one. Or, ask for name, department and sufficient identifying information to distinguish for any other police officers. As a hint, most of these guys have a single assigned car, so a license plate number is darn near as good as a badge number (especially when taken together with date and time of interaction).
Charles
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