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SGT Jensen State Researcher

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Posted: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 05:52 am |
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In case anyone is wondering, nine of us were packing.






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Posted: Sun Oct 21st, 2007 06:33 am |
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Wow. Looks like fun! Wish I had been there.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 03:04 am |
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the meet ROCKED!
gotta get up at 6am... OH THE FUN! :/
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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 03:42 am |
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Shelbi and I had a great time getting to meet all you guys and gals. As we talked about during dinner, we should definately try to keep this up once a month and move the location each time.
Packingmama: did you want to put together a calendar of when and where we should have the meets and then we can post it and start to assign the arrangements out to the members? If not, let me know and I can try to get it layed out and posted. You did such a great job with this one, we really appreciate your time and effort that went in to organizing it. THANK YOU!!!!! If you guys want to do the next one up here in Layton, I would be glad to run with it and make sure we have another great event. I am hoping that by the time we get the second meet out of the way, we should have enough interest in a few other parts of the state to start to spead it out a little bit and allow other members to organize an event in there "back yard".
Thanks again, it was great, and I can't wait to see how "mis-quoted" we all are in the deseret new article in the morning!!!!
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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 04:15 am |
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Nice looking group of folks.
I got my deer. So while you guys were eating I was bringing home the bacon (oops I mean venison)... hahahaha
As Ted Nugent would say... Kill it and grill it.
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SGT Jensen State Researcher

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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 04:47 am |
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DAMNIT! Sorry B, I knew I was gonna spell her name wrong! It's fixed now!
combatcarry, congrats on the deer! Next meet in Cedar City, I want some deer jerky!!! "Why do you need an Uzi to kill a deer?!?" 
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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 02:23 pm |
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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695220748,00.html
Packing heat, no apologies
'We are normal people who just happen to carry guns'
By Elizabeth Stuart
Deseret Morning News
Published: Oct. 22, 2007 12:23 a.m. MDT
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PROVO — For Clachelle Jensen, preparing to leave the house with her two children goes something like this: Baby wipes? Check. Extra diapers? Check. Glock pistol? Check.
"I just feel safer when I have my gun on my hip," said Jensen, 28, who lives in Santaquin. "There's so many lunatics and crazies out there, you never know when something's going to happen."
The petite brunette's not shy about showing off her weapon, either. The Glock has a semipermanent home on her belt.
Jensen packed her pistol to the Red Robin in Provo Saturday, where she met up with about a dozen other unabashedly armed Utahns.
They looked imposing, walking in together, loaded pistols at their sides. The somber spell was broken though, when Jensen's baby started fussing and someone's cell phone went off.
"We're not gangsters," said Brian Nelson, 27, a soft-spoken man from Layton. "We are normal people. We just happen to carry guns."
A couple of the men work in gun-related businesses; the rest ranged in occupation from computer software engineer to political lobbyist. The youngest was a fresh-faced 18-year-old, the eldest had nearly-grown children. The group first met in an online chat room, OpenCarry.org, where they discuss their decision not to conceal their weapons.
"It's a whole lifestyle change," Nelson said.
He said he feels responsible for the safety of those around him when he has a gun on his hip. He always assesses the situation and looks for the exits when he walks into a room.
"You've got to envision what could go wrong because if you make the wrong decision with a gun in your hand, you'll be spending time in jail — and rightfully so," he said.
OpenCarry.org touts the slogan: "A right unexercised is a right lost." Saturday's group of pistol packers echoed the sentiment. A bonus to keeping the gun in the open, said Pether Jensen, a self-proclaimed cowboy from West Valley City, is the opportunity it presents to educate people about Utah's gun laws. No permit is required to openly carry a gun in Utah.
"I have the right to protect my family," he said. "A lot of people don't know they have that right."
Utah gun laws are some of the most relaxed in the country, said Clark Aposhian, chairman of the Utah Shooting Sports Council. His elbow rubbed against the handle of his pistol as he munched on his hamburger. Utah also boasts one of the lowest rates of crimes committed using lawfully-obtained firearms, he said. "We aren't apologizing for a felon trying to buy a gun," he said. "We obey the law and expect everyone else to also."
The only things Clachelle Jensen has ever taken out with her pistol are targets and broken bottles. None of the diners had ever taken aim at a human being.
"I hope the day never comes when I have to use my weapon," said Kevin Jensen, Clachelle's husband. "I just like to have it there in case of emergency."
All agreed that keeping the gun out in the open encourages criminals to stay at bay.
"An armed society is a polite society," they said. Kevin Jensen said he wanted his wife to keep her gun on her belt because she didn't always have hold of the purse she kept it in. He didn't want her to end up "arming a purse-snatcher," he said.
He prefers to wear his Glock strapped to his thigh. He shrugged when someone asked if he was a member of the FBI.
"If I wear it on my waist, I can't tuck my shirt in," he said, while bouncing his 3-month-old on his hip.
E-mail: estuart@desnews.com
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Dan Lund, for the Deseret Morning NewsKevin Jensen carries a pistol in a thigh holster while out to dinner at the Provo Towne Centre. His wife also openly packs a gun.
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SGT Jensen State Researcher

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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 04:22 pm |
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UTOC-45-44 wrote: + Click to enlarge 
Look Ma, I'm famous!!! 
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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 04:33 pm |
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Sounds like a fairly decent report of the events. The comment, however, on their site are slightly biased against us. Nicely done!
Did you do a PR or did the press just show up?
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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 04:47 pm |
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SGT Jensen wrote: DAMNIT! Sorry B, I knew I was gonna spell her name wrong! It's fixed now!
combatcarry, congrats on the deer! Next meet in Cedar City, I want some deer jerky!!! "Why do you need an Uzi to kill a deer?!?" 
No worries, its gets spelled wrong more than it does right.
Not a bad article they published, she actually stayed pretty open minded about the cause and stated it pretty well. A few things I did notice were that Clark was eating fish and chips, not a hamburger, and if I remember right, your comment was "If I wear it on my hip, then I have to tuck in my shirt" not "can't tuck in my shirt. But overall, not a bad representation of our event.
So where should we have the next one?
Take Care, B
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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 04:56 pm |
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| Well...,we all went to Provo this time. Why not Layton or Logan next time around? More fair to the Memebers up thataway.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 05:15 pm |
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Misquoted but that is not unusual.
I stated that Utah has some of the most "permissive" laws for carrying firearms in the nation. "relaxed" is not quite the same nor does it portray what is meant as accurately at Permissive. The word relaxed tends to indicate a deficiency.
I never used the word "apologizing" either, I said the people at this table are not apologists for people who use guns to commit crimes or obtain firearms illegally.
But hey, just remember doesn't matter what is written as long as they spell your name right.
To her credit I found the reporter asked good questions especially for someone who , admittedly, was uninformed on the subject of firearm especially CCW or OC.
Sincerely,
W. Clark Aposhian
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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 05:18 pm |
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My thoughts are that we sloowly work our way up north in increments. and spend a long time in Salt Lake Area before we venture too far north.
Just kidding Jeff,
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SGT Jensen State Researcher

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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 05:20 pm |
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Poor Jeff, gonna need a 2nd job to pay for fuel! 
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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 05:20 pm |
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Let us count the number of rounds available that night.
I had a very low "round to weapon" count with a total of 13 total rounds/2 weapons. No spare mags carried.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 05:27 pm |
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I also had 13 rounds, no spare mag.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 05:38 pm |
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| I had my 1911 (7+1) and 2 spare mags ( 8 each ) Last edited on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 05:38 pm by UTOC-45-44
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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 06:06 pm |
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I had my XD 45ACP w/ 14 rounds and 2 extra mags for a grand total of 40 rounds!
I love the comment the article "Brian Nelson, a soft-spoken man from Layton" my wife really gets a kick out of it too. I can't believe what a stir it is making in the comments section of the article. We really need to keep these events up every month and make sure to keep inviting multiple different media organizations.
Lets get the location and the date set for the next one!!!
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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 08:10 pm |
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Tacomatose wrote:
I love the comment the article "Brian Nelson, a soft-spoken man from Layton"
I also got a kick out of this quote Brian, all the years I've known you I don't think soft spoken quite describes you. lol
Jay
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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 08:25 pm |
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Ya, I must have put on a good show for the reporter.... We should be having another event next month. You should plan to attend the next one, it might even be up here in Layton. We had such a good time, and I am having a blast posting replies to the comments posted online about the article.
How did you hear about the article?
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