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Will you have money left for ammo & new OC gun?
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Grapeshot
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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 08:22 pm
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Both of our Senators are keeping a tally of call ins favoring or opposing Cap & Trade.

At the rate that spendable income is projected to decrease, many (most?) of us will be hard pressed to find funds for practice ammo much less that new carry gun.  All expenses of manufacturing etc. ultimately end up coming out of the consumer's pocket.

Call and express your choice of a No Vote for Cap & Trade.
Do it now - its your last chance.

Senator Warner (official website)
Richmond Area Office:  804-739-0247
Washington DC: 202-224-2023
Fax: 202-224-6295

Senator Webb (official website)
Richmond Area Office:   804-771-2221
Washington DC:  202-224-4024
Fax: 202-228-6363
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          Yata hey

Dispatcher
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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 09:05 pm
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Grapeshot wrote: Both of our Senators are keeping a tally of call ins favoring or opposing Cap & Trade.

At the rate that spendable income is projected to decrease, many (most?) of us will be hard pressed to find funds for practice ammo much less that new carry gun.  All expenses of manufacturing etc. ultimately end up coming out of the consumer's pocket.

Call and express your choice of a No Vote for Cap & Trade.
Do it now - its your last chance.

Senator Warner (official website)
Richmond Area Office:  804-739-0247
Washington DC: 202-224-2023
Fax: 202-224-6295

Senator Webb (official website)
Richmond Area Office:   804-771-2221
Washington DC:  202-224-4024
Fax: 202-228-6363
.

          Yata hey


Nye voted No in the House vote.  I was surprised.

Grapeshot
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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 09:15 pm
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Dispatcher wrote: Grapeshot wrote: Both of our Senators are keeping a tally of call ins favoring or opposing Cap & Trade.

At the rate that spendable income is projected to decrease, many (most?) of us will be hard pressed to find funds for practice ammo much less that new carry gun.  All expenses of manufacturing etc. ultimately end up coming out of the consumer's pocket.

Call and express your choice of a No Vote for Cap & Trade.
Do it now - its your last chance.

Senator Warner (official website)
Richmond Area Office:  804-739-0247
Washington DC: 202-224-2023
Fax: 202-224-6295

Senator Webb (official website)
Richmond Area Office:   804-771-2221
Washington DC:  202-224-4024
Fax: 202-228-6363
.

          Yata hey


Nye voted No in the House vote.  I was surprised.

We didn't need but a few more votes the other way in the House and there wouldn't be the problem now.  It can be stopped in the Senate but not by remaining silent.

The American people need to get angry and vocal.

                             Yata hey

Jonesy
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 Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 12:35 am
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Yep, and 8 so called republicans voted for this.


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 Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 12:38 am
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This is encouraging:

U.S. Jim Inhofe, who earlier said a criminal investigation “probably should be’’ conducted into allegations the EPA suppressed a climate change report, conceded Tuesday he is not qualified to make that determination.

“I have no way of knowing,’’ the Oklahoma Republican said.

Inhofe, however, stood by his prediction that a historic climate change bill narrowly approved by the House last week faces certain defeat in the Senate.

“It’s dead in the water,’’ he said.

Inhofe said the much-anticipated conclusion of a Senate race in Minnesota that will give Democrats the 60 votes needed to overcome Republican filibusters would not be enough to save the climate change bill.

“I’ll tell you what a lot of people are thinking, and that is it looks like things are going to be over and we are going to get the clown from Minnesota,’’ he said.

“They are not going to get more than 35 votes.’’

Asked if he was referring to Al Franken as the clown from Minnesota, Inhofe confirmed he was.

“I didn’t mean to be disrespectful. I don’t know the guy, but … for a living he is a clown,’’ the senator said.

“That’s what he does for a living.’’

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 Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 02:08 am
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Grapeshot wrote: Both of our Senators are keeping a tally of call ins favoring or opposing Cap & Trade.

At the rate that spendable income is projected to decrease, many (most?) of us will be hard pressed to find funds for practice ammo much less that new carry gun.  All expenses of manufacturing etc. ultimately end up coming out of the consumer's pocket.

Call and express your choice of a No Vote for Cap & Trade.
Do it now - its your last chance.

Senator Warner (official website)
Richmond Area Office:  804-739-0247
Washington DC: 202-224-2023
Fax: 202-224-6295

Senator Webb (official website)
Richmond Area Office:   804-771-2221
Washington DC:  202-224-4024
Fax: 202-228-6363
.

          Yata hey

Yeah, they were "keeping a tally" on the Eric Holder confirmation as well.  We all know how that "tally" turned out...

TFred

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 Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 02:28 am
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As soon as My wife & I saw the vote on CSPAN (House) I e-mailed both Webb and Warner expressing my displeasure :cuss: at what I just witnessed.

We will keep calling and writing. :banghead: :banghead:

Lou

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 Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 04:46 pm
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Grapeshot, considering where I live, I doubt I will even be able to afford to drive into town to buy the ammo, or drive to the range.


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 Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 05:15 pm
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Skeptic wrote: Grapeshot, considering where I live, I doubt I will even be able to afford to drive into town to buy the ammo, or drive to the range.
So glad you brought this back on thread. :D

I know the problem and it not getting any better with all of this snit.

Consider people on fixed income and I am on flex income. :?
At least when I complain to the boss, I have to listen.

               Yata hey

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Grapeshot wrote: Skeptic wrote: Grapeshot, considering where I live, I doubt I will even be able to afford to drive into town to buy the ammo, or drive to the range.
So glad you brought this back on thread. :D

I know the problem and it not getting any better with all of this snit.

Consider people on fixed income and I am on flex income. :?
At least when I complain to the boss, I have to listen.

               Yata hey

That's why I shoot as much 22 as I do GS. Even my hand loads cost enough to dent the budget so the new gun gets shot less and one of the old 22's get a workout.

Hopefully the economy will get better because I will run out of 22 ammo in 2025.:uhoh:

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 Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 10:48 pm
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I guess its time to invest in a couple 22's...  a rifle and a pistol.  Shooting .45 ain't cheap and I can't remember the last time I saw any 7.62 x 39 on the shelf...  :cuss:

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MSC 45ACP wrote: I guess its time to invest in a couple 22's...  a rifle and a pistol.  Shooting .45 ain't cheap and I can't remember the last time I saw any 7.62 x 39 on the shelf...  :cuss:
Order 7.62 x 39 on line - plenty FMJ avail. from numerous sources - most of it one of the Bears.

I bought a quality .22 cal conversion for my 1911s to cut costs.

I'm thinking about buying stock in an ammo manufacturer so I can get some return on my purchases.  There stock value goes up every time I buy ammo. :lol:

            Yata hey

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Grapeshot wrote: MSC 45ACP wrote: I guess its time to invest in a couple 22's...  a rifle and a pistol.  Shooting .45 ain't cheap and I can't remember the last time I saw any 7.62 x 39 on the shelf...  :cuss:
Order 7.62 x 39 on line - plenty FMJ avail. from numerous sources - most of it one of the Bears.

I bought a quality .22 cal conversion for my 1911s to cut costs.

I'm thinking about buying stock in an ammo manufacturer so I can get some return on my purchases.  There stock value goes up every time I buy ammo. :lol:

            Yata hey

What conversion did you buy Grapeshot?

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 Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 03:40 am
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peter nap wrote: Grapeshot wrote: MSC 45ACP wrote: I guess its time to invest in a couple 22's...  a rifle and a pistol.  Shooting .45 ain't cheap and I can't remember the last time I saw any 7.62 x 39 on the shelf...  :cuss:
Order 7.62 x 39 on line - plenty FMJ avail. from numerous sources - most of it one of the Bears.

I bought a quality .22 cal conversion for my 1911s to cut costs.

I'm thinking about buying stock in an ammo manufacturer so I can get some return on my purchases.  There stock value goes up every time I buy ammo. :lol:

            Yata hey

What conversion did you buy Grapeshot?


I dunno what Grape got, but I got the Advantage Arms Standard kit and an extra magazine of Kimber manufacture for my Taurus PT1911.  Have run 700 rounds of CCI Minimag and Winchester Wildcat through it.  Had to get some minor work done after 400 rounds, would not return to battery properly, hammer would catch at half-cock.  Last session, 300 rds, was flawless.  Never did find out what the problem was, gunsmith was off-duty the day I picked it up from the shop.  Kit was just under $300.  700 rds of WWB .45 at $35/hd would be $255, so I've almost broken even.  Next range session...

http://www.advantagearms.com

I bought it at a gun show from http://www.cerberusconversions.com.

Fully adjustable rear sight, front and rear slide serrations, cleaning kit.  Slides can be swapped in under 60 seconds, I've managed 30 without much practice.  AA mags will lock the slide back on firing the last round, thus functions exactly as your normal slide, so also great for all live-fire drills.  Fits in any standard 1911 holster.

If you can't tell, I really like it......:celebrate:D

     
ETA: And they are great for teaching new shooters!

Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 03:47 am by PavePusher

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peter nap wrote: Grapeshot wrote: MSC 45ACP wrote: I guess its time to invest in a couple 22's...  a rifle and a pistol.  Shooting .45 ain't cheap and I can't remember the last time I saw any 7.62 x 39 on the shelf...  :cuss:
Order 7.62 x 39 on line - plenty FMJ avail. from numerous sources - most of it one of the Bears.

I bought a quality .22 cal conversion for my 1911s to cut costs.

I'm thinking about buying stock in an ammo manufacturer so I can get some return on my purchases.  There stock value goes up every time I buy ammo. :lol:

            Yata hey

What conversion did you buy Grapeshot?

Bought the Kimber with three (3) magazines so that I can do all of the drills.

Shame on me though, I haven't shot it yet.  :?

Note to self:  GO TO THE RANGE SOON !

             Yata hey

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Grapeshot wrote: peter nap wrote: Grapeshot wrote: MSC 45ACP wrote: I guess its time to invest in a couple 22's...  a rifle and a pistol.  Shooting .45 ain't cheap and I can't remember the last time I saw any 7.62 x 39 on the shelf...  :cuss:
Order 7.62 x 39 on line - plenty FMJ avail. from numerous sources - most of it one of the Bears.

I bought a quality .22 cal conversion for my 1911s to cut costs.

I'm thinking about buying stock in an ammo manufacturer so I can get some return on my purchases.  There stock value goes up every time I buy ammo. :lol:

            Yata hey

What conversion did you buy Grapeshot?

Bought the Kimber with three (3) magazines so that I can do all of the drills.

Shame on me though, I haven't shot it yet.  :?

Note to self:  GO TO THE RANGE SOON !

             Yata hey

To mangle the Bard: Get thee to a gunnery....:lol:

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GOT SIG!

 

Finally got my NEW (Factory Refurbished) Sig Sauer P226!

Can't wait to get out and shoot it.  :)

I guess I sould change my avitar pic! Or then again... maybe not!

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Infidel wrote: GOT SIG!

  Finally got my NEW (Factory Refurbished) Sig Sauer P226!

Can't wait to get out and shoot it.  :)

I guess I sould change my avitar pic! Or then again... maybe not!

Shoot her for reliability and then take her out to eat.  Show the lady off! :D

Try this one:
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=27772&forum_id=54&jump_to=467988#p467988

       Yata hey

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Grapeshot wrote: Infidel wrote: GOT SIG!

  Finally got my NEW (Factory Refurbished) Sig Sauer P226!

Can't wait to get out and shoot it.  :)

I guess I sould change my avitar pic! Or then again... maybe not!

Shoot her for reliability and then take her out to eat.  Show the lady off! :D

Try this one:
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=27772&forum_id=54&jump_to=467988#p467988

       Yata hey

As soon as I get back from Annual Training Grapeshot, I'll join you for breakast sporting her! Does Fuddruckers serve breakfast?

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Sadly, I am very particular about the firearms I purchase.  MY last .22 pistol was a S&W Mod 41HB.  It was a tack-driver out to 50 yards.  I'd really like to find one of those Sig-Hammerli 22's they made for a few years.  I may settle for a Ruger bull barrel or another 41 if ai can find a decent one.  I noticed they started building them again.  I wonder if the quality is up to what they used to be...

For a .22 rifle, I wouldn't mind picking up a Ruger 10/22 or an old match gun.  I'll take a look at the DCM stocks (or whatever they call that place now) to see what they have.  they usually have some decent 22 match rifles for a decent price.

 


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