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Citizen
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Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2009 06:53 am |
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Neplusultra wrote: You old guys have such a way with women, how do you do it???
We're safe to talk to.
Besides, I make it a point to be friendly. This is the key: be interested in the person beyond their function. Comment on how busy it looks, ask how they keep up. Ask if they are a student. "Oh? Studying what?"
Be playful. Tell the waiter you are with the tour bus that just pulled up. When they go into shock, smile and tell them you were just joking. (Works every time.)
Be outgoing. But above all, be interested in them. Beyond just their function.
From working with the public for years, I can tell you that the customers you most look forward to seeing are the ones who are sociable, playful, humorous, etc., beyond just the business being transacted. They're more like friends than customers.
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Jonesy
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 12:48 am |
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OCing at Harris Teeter's Alexandria where I go maybe 2-3 times a week, live very close. Walking by a checkout line a well dressed gentlemen waiting at the back of a line tells his kid, about 12yo, stay away from guys like that, he is looking for action.
I thought of stopping and saying something, but decided better to keep walking, but I kinda laughed, never heard anyone say that before. The last thing I ever want is "action." Most of the time it seems it prevents "action."
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XD Owner
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 12:56 am |
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| Mai Thai Restaurant Old Town and then walked to City Hall and then back to Union Street. Nice evening out.
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bohdi
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 03:59 pm |
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| Giant by the house (got all the wrong stuff for my wife, a tri-fecta of husbandry error making, not one right thing), Blue Ridge and then Mike's BBQ - er Famous Dave's with BUBB4H. Uneventful as usual.
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TexasNative
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 04:13 pm |
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bohdi wrote: ...a tri-fecta of husbandry error making...
If a man stands alone in the forest, is he still wrong?
~ Boyd
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Riana
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 04:25 pm |
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TexasNative wrote: bohdi wrote: ...a tri-fecta of husbandry error making...
If a man stands alone in the forest, is he still wrong?
~ Boyd
Maybe. 
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SouthernBoy
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 09:52 pm |
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TexasNative wrote: bohdi wrote: ...a tri-fecta of husbandry error making...
If a man stands alone in the forest, is he still wrong?
~ Boyd
If he's deaf and urinates on a tree, does it make a sound?
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Citizen
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 10:56 pm |
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SouthernBoy wrote: TexasNative wrote: bohdi wrote: ...a tri-fecta of husbandry error making...
If a man stands alone in the forest, is he still wrong?
~ Boyd
If he's deaf and urinates on a tree, does it make a sound?
Science requires more than whizzful thinking.
Back to the thread, please.
Last edited on Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 10:57 pm by Citizen
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MSC 45ACP
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 12:33 am |
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Better late than never...
I drove up for the weekend to see Midget with Glock (First-born child) and attend the picnic at Burke Lake. We had a wonderful time meeting so many of you.
On our way to the picnic, I got the most interesting reaction from someone since I started OCing last March. We stopped at the Giant grocery store at Burke Lake- Rolling-Braddock road triangle intersection to get cookies. Our cashier looked at Midget's right hip (and the HUGE Glock 21) as Midget smiled at her and then at me (old/fat/ugly/salt & pepper hair and blue baseball hat) carrying a USP 45 on my left hip. (Her pistol looks so big because she's only 5' tall and looks sweet and innocent with her big blue-green eyes, freckles and ready smile.)
She looked back and forth between us several times with  Geico Eyes. I asked her if she was ok, and she stammered "I was just trying to figure out where you're from..." I thought that was a very odd thing to say, so I took my hat off to see which one I was wearing. It was an old unit hat from my Coast Guard days and had nothing on it about the ship's home port. I said "Yorktown" and added that I had lived down the road near GMU for a couple years back in the early 80's. Maybe she wondered what planet we had arrived from because we were OCing.
Either way, Midget and I could hardly contain ourselves from busting out laughing until we went through the door. As we got closer to the car, I was laughing so hard I could hardly walk. I was unable to put my seatbelt on or see well enough drive anywhere for a while until I could wipe the tears from my eyes.
There was a line of people behind us and I didn't have any cards with me, but I wish I had taken the time to talk to her about OCing in Virginia and hand her a card. Opportunity to educate a MadMommy missed. Sorry to let my fellow Patriots down...
Midget has taken a psychology class and shares her "wisdom" with me often. She said women look at men from the top down, first noticing their eyes, smile, etc... According to her, men first notice a woman's chest and then the rest of her. (Are we men all dogs or what?) Since she started carrying a few months ago, she wonders if men notice her .45 or her other attributes first... Either way, she always gets more attention than I do. I'm glad she does. Women should always be respected.
A woman that OC's definitely improves the manners of those around her. We've noticed that while shopping. We went to Fair Oaks Mall before I made the drive back to Yorktown and she commented that it was too bad we couldn't OC there because the people were so rude. No one ever bumps into us when we're OCing, but no one seems to notice her when she doesn't. I think I read from previous posts that OCing at Fair Oaks was "against the rules", but I couldn't go completely naked, so I CCed instead.
Everyone in Northern VA always seems to be in such a hurry. People were annoyed with me when I drove the speed limit (in the right or center land of course) and all seemed impatient wherever we went.
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SouthernBoy
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 01:48 am |
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Citizen wrote: SouthernBoy wrote: TexasNative wrote: bohdi wrote: ...a tri-fecta of husbandry error making...
If a man stands alone in the forest, is he still wrong?
~ Boyd
If he's deaf and urinates on a tree, does it make a sound?
Science requires more than whizzful thinking.
Back to the thread, please.
Very good!!
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nova
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 02:36 am |
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Gilberts.
Saw someone's gun slamfire. A few times.  I'm beginning to think it was on purpose after listening to parts of their conversation with their buddy who didn't pay for their own lane but was using one anyways.
Two FBI guys came in to shoot not long after, and I didn't hear any more slamfires after that  .
I now remember why I don't like going there late at night...the crazies come out of the woodwork!
Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 02:37 am by nova
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Citizen
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 03:59 am |
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nova wrote: SNIP Gilberts.
I now remember why I don't like going there late at night...the crazies come out of the woodwork!
Watch how fast the range master will stuff them back in the woodwork if you call something to his attention. Especially Jack or the older Latino who gives the CHP classes.
I've personally seen them verbally eject one fella in front of that fella's teenage son. Dad swept the line with his muzzle. He was in the act of doing it again when the range master seized his handgun slide, demanding he release the weapon. When the offender argued, the range master detected a slight trace of alcohol on his breath. He was instantly ordered off the premises. No refund.
Some of the younger staff who act as range masters are a little more timid, but there is usually a firebreather on duty in the store, too.
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MSC 45ACP
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 04:05 am |
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Citizen wrote: nova wrote: SNIP Gilberts.
I now remember why I don't like going there late at night...the crazies come out of the woodwork!
Watch how fast the range master will stuff them back in the woodwork if you call something to his attention. Especially Jack or the older Latino who gives the CHP classes.
I've personally seen them verbally eject one fella in front of that fella's teenage son. Dad swept the line with his muzzle. He was in the act of doing it again when the range master seized his handgun slide, demanding he release the weapon. When the offender argued, the range master detected a slight trace of alcohol on his breath. He was instantly ordered off the premises. No refund.
Some of the younger staff who act as range masters are a little more timid, but there is usually a firebreather on duty in the store, too.
As it should be. NEVER allow a safety violation go unpunished. Sets a very bad example. In over 20 years of running range details, I NEVER had an accidental or unintentional discharge. I had ONE person shoot a fraction of a second before I blew the commence fire whistle and I gave him a royal butt chewing in front of the entire line before continuing with the next course of fire.
Teach the youngsters well and they will serve you well...
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nova
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 05:26 am |
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MSC 45ACP wrote: Citizen wrote: nova wrote: SNIP Gilberts.
I now remember why I don't like going there late at night...the crazies come out of the woodwork!
Watch how fast the range master will stuff them back in the woodwork if you call something to his attention. Especially Jack or the older Latino who gives the CHP classes.
I've personally seen them verbally eject one fella in front of that fella's teenage son. Dad swept the line with his muzzle. He was in the act of doing it again when the range master seized his handgun slide, demanding he release the weapon. When the offender argued, the range master detected a slight trace of alcohol on his breath. He was instantly ordered off the premises. No refund.
Some of the younger staff who act as range masters are a little more timid, but there is usually a firebreather on duty in the store, too.
As it should be. NEVER allow a safety violation go unpunished. Sets a very bad example. In over 20 years of running range details, I NEVER had an accidental or unintentional discharge. I had ONE person shoot a fraction of a second before I blew the commence fire whistle and I gave him a royal butt chewing in front of the entire line before continuing with the next course of fire.
Teach the youngsters well and they will serve you well...
After the second burst of fire I noticed the rangemaster run over. This was just as I was packing my stuff but knowing the guys who work there, they were most likely taken care of.
I've been shooting there since I was a sophomore in HS so the guys there really know me .
Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 05:27 am by nova
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SouthernBoy
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 02:08 pm |
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MSC 45ACP wrote: Citizen wrote: nova wrote: SNIP Gilberts.
I now remember why I don't like going there late at night...the crazies come out of the woodwork!
Watch how fast the range master will stuff them back in the woodwork if you call something to his attention. Especially Jack or the older Latino who gives the CHP classes.
I've personally seen them verbally eject one fella in front of that fella's teenage son. Dad swept the line with his muzzle. He was in the act of doing it again when the range master seized his handgun slide, demanding he release the weapon. When the offender argued, the range master detected a slight trace of alcohol on his breath. He was instantly ordered off the premises. No refund.
Some of the younger staff who act as range masters are a little more timid, but there is usually a firebreather on duty in the store, too.
As it should be. NEVER allow a safety violation go unpunished. Sets a very bad example. In over 20 years of running range details, I NEVER had an accidental or unintentional discharge. I had ONE person shoot a fraction of a second before I blew the commence fire whistle and I gave him a royal butt chewing in front of the entire line before continuing with the next course of fire.
Teach the youngsters well and they will serve you well...
Ive been a member of the Izaac Walton League since '94 and that is where I most often do my shooting. I like to get there when the first open up on Saturdays which is 8:00am. That way, I generally get my choice of lane and it is not crowded. As a rule, they almost always have two range masters on duty to watch over things. About 3-4 years ago, I was on lane 6 and one of the range masters had taken lane 8. When he was not doing the watching during a "hot" line, he was messing with a lever action .35 Remington rifle. At one point I kinda caught something out of the corner of my right eye and as I turned my head a little, I saw that this range master inspecting the breech of his rifle with the muzzle pointing directly at my head!! I yelled something which caught the attention of the other range master who chided this guy for his error.
A range master, no less!! I had never seen him on the range before and have not seen him since.
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TexasNative
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 04:32 pm |
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SouthernBoy wrote: A range master, no less!! I had never seen him on the range before and have not seen him since.
I don't really think that's very strange, since "officiating" and "doing" are very different things. Look at referees and umpires and so forth for good examples.
We get good at "behaving" well at the range through repetition. If the range master spends all his time on the line "range mastering" instead of shooting, I'm not too surprised that he loses sight of where his muzzle is pointing. He needs to spend more time shooting on the range, that's for sure.
~ Boyd
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virginiatuck
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 05:25 pm |
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I was walking down the sidewalk near my house today; a guy was jogging by with a disgusted look on his face and asked "are you a cop?" I said "no." He said "better watch out!" and kept jogging. I asked "for what?" He waved his hand in the air, with his back still toward me, and exclaimed "weapons concealment!" I'm not sure what he meant by waving his hand, whether it was a friendly good-bye or whether he was answering that what I need to watch out for is someone's hand grabbing my firearm. He kept on jogging. I was outside for a while trimming overgrown trees and he did not return.
I would have been happy to introduce myself, listen to the gentleman explain the virtues of "weapons concealment" to me, and have a civil conversation about the matter. Perhaps some day we will meet again and he can tell me more.
If you're out there John Doe, drop a line.
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SouthernBoy
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 11:43 pm |
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TexasNative wrote: SouthernBoy wrote: A range master, no less!! I had never seen him on the range before and have not seen him since.
I don't really think that's very strange, since "officiating" and "doing" are very different things. Look at referees and umpires and so forth for good examples.
We get good at "behaving" well at the range through repetition. If the range master spends all his time on the line "range mastering" instead of shooting, I'm not too surprised that he loses sight of where his muzzle is pointing. He needs to spend more time shooting on the range, that's for sure.
~ Boyd
Well both myself and the other range master thought it was completely unacceptable and out of character for a range master to do something like this. I mean, the first rule of safe gun handling is to never point it at something you are not willing to see destroyed or rephrased, always keep it pointed in a safe direction.
Last edited on Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 11:44 pm by SouthernBoy
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Riana
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Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2009 12:20 am |
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virginiatuck wrote: I was walking down the sidewalk near my house today; a guy was jogging by with a disgusted look on his face and asked "are you a cop?" I said "no." He said "better watch out!" and kept jogging. I asked "for what?" He waved his hand in the air, with his back still toward me, and exclaimed "weapons concealment!"
Perhaps he's from one of those places that considers a holster as concealment?
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VApatriot
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Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2009 04:19 am |
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I OCed at Outback in Fairfax this evening. I was sitting with my strong-side facing out of the booth, but I'm not sure anyone noticed until I was leaving with my brothers and friends. On our way out we passed two FCPD officers, one inside and one outside. The one inside was a female officer who was talking to the hostess by the door. We exchanged pleasantries with both as we exited, without anything being said about the firearms. I could tell that the hostess noticed, but I'm not sure that the cop could see either my brother's or my gun from where she was standing. The officer who was outside was busy talking to some guy (probably the reason they were there), and he never even looked our way.
This was the closest encounter I have ever had with any LEOs, while OCing outside of gun shows and VCDL events, and it went just fine.
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