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VAopencarry
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 05:01 am |
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capa, as you are finding out, a lot of 'gun people' don't care about overzealous colleges, or police, or judges or care if people get railroaded, don't care much about civil liberty in general. Most here believe in the 2d Amendment and all the others too.
Good luck in getting this all sorted out.
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Neplusultra
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 05:08 am |
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capablanca911 wrote: That's the plan. I don't know what tomarrow holds--but I know Who holds tomarrow.
Awhile back I had a PC experience. I sent an invitation to what I thought was a friend to go shooting, as I do almost invariably with all new friends. It was right after the Tech shooting, a few weeks. I sent him the original photo that I use for my userpic. I had just gotten that gun and said we could shoot it or go skeet shooting, which I said I prefered skeet. The next day two FBI agents, an ATF agent and a Blacksburg Detective showed up at my place of work.
During the "interview" I was asked if I thought the photo inappropriate. I said no, that I didn't believe in that politically correct crap. If there is nothing evil about the gun there is nothing evil about it and it should be talked about freely no matter how someone else uses it for evil. If someone uses his car to kill a bunch of people should I speak in hushed tones when speaking of mine?
After a number of hours they all agreed that this person had over reacted and they left.
Ultimately you have the right to free speech. And if you're going to write a black story that will touch on peoples fears then you certainly chose the right topic! I've never heard of a horror story that was written about little white bunnies. If anything it sounds like your story is about someone who chose to do what was right. If only Cho had done so.
My offer still stands for help with the lawyer. Let me know. Glad to read you're going to fight it. Another idea is that whoever you have your loans through may defer them while you fight the school in court so you may not have to re-enlist. Tell them if they wait until the end of the trial you'll pay them off in one payment  . I imagine if you re-enlist it will be years before you could be back in class.
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Neplusultra
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 05:09 am |
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VAopencarry wrote: capa, as you are finding out, a lot of 'gun people' don't care about overzealous colleges, or police, or judges or care if people get railroaded, don't care much about civil liberty in general. Most here believe in the 2d Amendment and all the others too.
Good luck in getting this all sorted out.
You're right about that! It's something I've noticed too.
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Neplusultra
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 06:25 am |
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Steve, I've noticed that none of the news reports have mentioned how you came up with the name "Christopher" or that you didn't realize that was the first name of your prof. Have you ever mentioned either of these points with the media? It's very significant since otherwise it makes your story appear personally directed at the prof.
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LEO 229
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 01:11 pm |
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capablanca911 wrote: I wasn't involuntarily committed, I was issued a temporary detention order.
Agreed.. the TDO is only to figure out if you should BE committed and then you would be restricted.
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Doug Huffman
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 01:28 pm |
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deepdiver wrote: I would strongly suggest contacting Mike Adams. He is a huge supporter of 2A rights and he is also very active with student freedom of speech issues. He has helped other students contact advocacy groups/think tanks which have mounted a legal defense for students in situations such as yours. This would be right up his alley. He is also a professor of criminology at UNC-Wilmington and is well versed in the politics of leftist campus administrators. Here's his home page with contact info on the left:
http://www.dradams.org/
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MikeSAdams/2008/03/10/one_giant_leap_for_personkind
http://www.dradams.org/
mailto:adams_mike@hotmail.com
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capablanca911
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 02:25 pm |
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Yeah, a lot of the campus police guys are vetern LEO--many of them are from the sheriff's office.
Campus police were very nice, very polite, etc. They just have to do what the administration directs them to do.
That's the problem.
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capablanca911
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 02:42 pm |
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I definately could use some help. As soon as I have copies of my records (Friday I think) I'm getting a lawyer for the permit.
I'll get a different one for the lawsuit, but that's on down the road.
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peter nap
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 02:54 pm |
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capablanca911 wrote: I definately could use some help. As soon as I have copies of my records (Friday I think) I'm getting a lawyer for the permit.
I'll get a different one for the lawsuit, but that's on down the road.
I wouldn't wait to litigate this. Check VCDL's site for a list of 2A lawyers or check with the Bar's lawyer referral service.
You need to resume your education as well as clear your name.
Your story is out now, so you might want to slow down on the postings until you talk to a lawyer....
Good Luck!
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 06:49 pm |
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Repeater
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 07:01 pm |
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capablanca911 wrote: That's the plan. I don't know what tomarrow holds--but I know Who holds tomarrow.
Gun Week published this Chuck Asay cartoon in their latest issue:
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 07:21 pm |
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Doug Huffman
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 07:30 pm |
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outingBarber wrote: DELETED - BobCav (Sorry Doug, just can't leave that kind of drivel on the forum)
QFT from another anonymous poison-pen author. An argument for hand vetting of 'members.' How will the accused confront his accuser? PM allowed poison-pen messages directed at me to be kept private while this idiot outs himself.
BM is the senior rating in the Navy, the first to command in the event ALL officers are incapacitated. They aren't required to be choir boys but to be OLD FASHIONED sailors.
I knew a MMCPO that took his antabuse in front of the quack and then drank and puked until he was drunk - and COB.
As to these literally baseless accusations of homosexual rape; too bad a hypothetically queer BM can't serve on a submarine for his rating rather than his orientation.
Which "felony conviction" was this and which college, law school for a wannabe attorney or criminal justice for a wannabe cop?
Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns and the truth. NRA KMA$$
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BobCav
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 07:36 pm |
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Folks, this outingBarber is a troll and his posts are NOT related to OCDO, merely attempting to discredit a member here for whatever reason. His opinion of Barber is not based in fact and he is innocent until proven guilty. Something this "Sailor" seems to have forgotten. (Real Sailors know that the word Sailor is now spelled with a capitol "S". Navy policy enacted after the death of Admiral Arleigh A. Burke - "Sailor")
Posts deleted.
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LEO 229
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 07:39 pm |
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| Thanks Bob.... I was wondering what that was all about.
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BobCav
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 07:40 pm |
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Yeah, they're still online waiting to see what kind of response they can get.
Surprise!
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Doug Huffman
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 08:00 pm |
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No sweat. I made my point about hand vetting would be members. And about poison-pen PMs...
Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns and the truth.
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DrMark
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 09:27 pm |
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capablanca911 wrote: Jeez, I'm getting crucified at ar15.com
Don't take it personally.
The theme of "don't consent to any search" runs deep there. That, combined with a huge membership and looser moderation, means many will just point out what you did that, in their opinion, was wrong.
A thick skin helps there, but the diversity of opinion and experience often results in some useful perspectives and ideas.
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 10:15 pm |
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Damn.....Go to a meeting and miss another troll
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Neplusultra
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Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 10:51 pm |
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peter nap wrote: Damn.....Go to a meeting and miss another troll
I know I missed it too. It would have been fun to see the pile on but BobCav was right in that it would take us off the very important issue at hand.
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