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BIll98501
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 12:23 am |
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Spaceman Spiff wrote: I don't get down there much, too many of you hillbillys.
The hillbillys dont shoot there, only the city folk who dont want to drive 5 minutes up a gravel road to another pit. We hillbillys shoot elsewhere.
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Citizen
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 12:59 am |
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Spaceman Spiff wrote:
That avatar is just too cool!!
Calvin & Hobbes Rule!!
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just_a_car
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 01:28 am |
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Citizen wrote: Spaceman Spiff wrote:
That avatar is just too cool!!
Calvin & Hobbes Rule!!
I'll give a +1 to that... I have all, if not almost all, of the collections.
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Bear 45/70
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 01:58 am |
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Spaceman Spiff wrote: Thats really just political correctness bull@#$%. There is nothing wrong with a beer/ very moderate alcohol while shooting. relax, enjoy, be safe.
luvmyglock wrote:
johnnyb wrote: luvmyglock wrote: johnnyb wrote: no @#$% dude, get off your @#$%ing high horse.
go back to kalifornia
Take a chill pill. I did nothing to you. You are rude and inconsiderate. If you don't like what I have to say then you are free to exercise your back button. I personally don't think that I am on a "high horse" by not wanting to get shot by some drunk retard with an AK, or hit by a ricochet from some idiot popping of shots at rocks. I DO , however, think that you are WAY out of line with your comments.
waaa.
you didn't say they were drunk you said they were "drinking beer"
don't like what i say? you are free to not start threads. 
Alcohol, even in small quantities, impairs judgment. That is the very first thing to go when consuming any alcohol. By the time you feel the physical and psychological effects of alcohol, your judgment is severely impaired. This is not good when operating and handling a loaded firearm. If you like to drink and handle guns, so be it...you are probably doing society a favor if your attitude and intelligence in the real world follows suit.......
I will never be on the same range with you, EVER. Your thinking is what causes accidents.
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M1Gunr
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 02:00 am |
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Spaceman Spiff wrote: I don't get down there much, too many of you hillbillys.
That's "Hillbillies" to you flatlanders
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Nosrac
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 02:51 pm |
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I am usually in Littlerock on Tuesdays and Thursdays and I drive by the pit on my way home just to see if it's safe to get a little bit of shooting in. During the week I seem to have better luck but not always. I emailed KS to see if I can find a place where I can shoot a little more regularly without running into the idiots. What amazes me is most of these guys don't wear ear or eye protection and they shoot at dumb stuff and leave their trash everywhere.
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M1Gunr
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 03:18 pm |
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Nosrac wrote: What amazes me is most of these guys don't wear ear or eye protection and they shoot at dumb stuff and leave their trash everywhere.
I was out there one day and a guy was shooting a AK and some other large caliber weapons. The kids with him had no hearing protection. I always carry extra foam inserts and started passing them out to the kids. The "adult" of the group gave me the ugliest look but the kids were very grateful. Once they had hearing protection they were more interested in shooting.
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kschmadeka
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 10:46 pm |
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Nosrac wrote: I emailed KS to see if I can find a place where I can shoot a little more regularly without running into the idiots.
I'm not sure if this helps much, but this should show the roads up the mountains from the shooting pit I believe. I've only been by that pit once or twice, but if I remember right it's on Waddell Creek Road which is on this map. (There are better maps of Capitol Forest though.) I don't recall what rules might have been laid down for shooting in the forest area, or if it's been posted or anything. Usually I head for the National Forest roads that I find on Streets and Trips, but they're a little farther drive. I like longer distance shooting though. Attachment: CapitolForest1.pdf (Downloaded 22 times)
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tanman
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 02:57 am |
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johnnyb wrote: no @#$% dude, get off your @#$%ing high horse.
go back to kalifornia
Really dude? Real mature...
It's one thing to have a beer with a gun on your hip in the privacy of your own home. Check this out- RCW 9.41.270:
(1) It shall be unlawful for any person to carry, exhibit, display, or draw any firearm, dagger, sword, knife or other cutting or stabbing instrument, club, or any other weapon apparently capable of producing bodily harm, in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons.
Perception is reality, especially with gun haters and cops. If someone is already biased against you because you have a gun they will hate you even more. Throw a dip in your lip and to them you become the justification for the existence of the ATF (BATFE).
Last edited on Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 02:58 am by tanman
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tanman
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 03:11 am |
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Spaceman Spiff wrote: Are there any documented incidents of people being injured at the pit?
Quit complaining, there are too few places to shoot as it is.
Ok, I don't know how many of you have fired tracers...but it teaches you a lot about trajectory. Just because you have a backstop dosn't mean the bullets stop at the same elevation you shoot them at. They often richochette up as high as 50 degrees. This can lead to having bullets go up and over a burm- or into a biker as he comes over the top as you are shooting and didn't hear him. Everyone should dump a mag of tracers at the target they are using first. See if they are hitting rocks, etc...
This is always an effective way to tell a firefight is going on before you can hear it. From the side, a knock down, drag out slug fest looks like a V made by tracers. I've been out after dark and I can assure you "SHARING" your impact area with bikers will result in someone taking a trip to the morgue, court or both eventually.
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Spaceman Spiff
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 03:49 pm |
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Good, I don't like shooting with ignorant overBEARing types. Just because you may not know your limits, don't assume we all have that problem. Bear 45/70 wrote: Spaceman Spiff wrote: Thats really just political correctness bull@#$%. There is nothing wrong with a beer/ very moderate alcohol while shooting. relax, enjoy, be safe.
luvmyglock wrote:
johnnyb wrote: luvmyglock wrote: johnnyb wrote: no @#$% dude, get off your @#$%ing high horse.
go back to kalifornia
Take a chill pill. I did nothing to you. You are rude and inconsiderate. If you don't like what I have to say then you are free to exercise your back button. I personally don't think that I am on a "high horse" by not wanting to get shot by some drunk retard with an AK, or hit by a ricochet from some idiot popping of shots at rocks. I DO , however, think that you are WAY out of line with your comments.
waaa.
you didn't say they were drunk you said they were "drinking beer"
don't like what i say? you are free to not start threads.
Alcohol, even in small quantities, impairs judgment. That is the very first thing to go when consuming any alcohol. By the time you feel the physical and psychological effects of alcohol, your judgment is severely impaired. This is not good when operating and handling a loaded firearm. If you like to drink and handle guns, so be it...you are probably doing society a favor if your attitude and intelligence in the real world follows suit.......
I will never be on the same range with you, EVER. Your thinking is what causes accidents.
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tanman
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 07:44 pm |
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BIll98501 wrote:
I think my last time there, a guy shooting a desert eagle had a jam, couldnt cycle the slide, hammer didnt set off the round. pointed directly at me 10 feet away trying the clear it. luckily one of us usually is looking out for idiots, so he let me know what was happening and we stepped back until the guy gave up and put it away, then we left.
One of the the places I go near the tri-cities can be a little sketchy...there's always one guy on security with a locked and cocked M-4...
One time we had two vehicles come up one on either side of the entrance to where we were and either side of my truck. They figured out real quick what was going on when I was passed the M-4 (due to experience) and everyone set down their plinking guns (mostly .22's) in favor of bigger stuff/handguns. Maybe the same don't @#$% with me approch should be taken to idiots... Or make friends with someone who has access to private land/join a range. I've been to Tacoma Gun Club (I think that's the name) out near Puallyup. However, they aren't big fans of tactical training cause apparently the DC shooter trained there. So reflex practice and more than one round per second is frowned upon without a badge. Of course they're the only ones who need to be able to do that...
By the way they turned out to be cool guys- a couple were vets but the oldest guy's sons was driving the point vehicle and boxed us in...not the smartest thing he's ever done.
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Bear 45/70
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 07:54 pm |
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Spaceman Spiff wrote: Good, I don't like shooting with ignorant overBEARing types. Just because you may not know your limits, don't assume we all have that problem. Bear 45/70 wrote: Spaceman Spiff wrote: Thats really just political correctness bull@#$%. There is nothing wrong with a beer/ very moderate alcohol while shooting. relax, enjoy, be safe.
luvmyglock wrote:
johnnyb wrote: luvmyglock wrote: johnnyb wrote: no @#$% dude, get off your @#$%ing high horse.
go back to kalifornia
Take a chill pill. I did nothing to you. You are rude and inconsiderate. If you don't like what I have to say then you are free to exercise your back button. I personally don't think that I am on a "high horse" by not wanting to get shot by some drunk retard with an AK, or hit by a ricochet from some idiot popping of shots at rocks. I DO , however, think that you are WAY out of line with your comments.
waaa.
you didn't say they were drunk you said they were "drinking beer"
don't like what i say? you are free to not start threads.
Alcohol, even in small quantities, impairs judgment. That is the very first thing to go when consuming any alcohol. By the time you feel the physical and psychological effects of alcohol, your judgment is severely impaired. This is not good when operating and handling a loaded firearm. If you like to drink and handle guns, so be it...you are probably doing society a favor if your attitude and intelligence in the real world follows suit.......
I will never be on the same range with you, EVER. Your thinking is what causes accidents.
The only ignorant one is you. Drinking while shooting should get you what you deserve, a death sentence for being to stupid to continue living because you are a danger to others.Last edited on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 07:59 pm by Bear 45/70
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deepdiver
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 10:16 pm |
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Bear 45/70 wrote: Spaceman Spiff wrote: Good, I don't like shooting with ignorant overBEARing types. Just because you may not know your limits, don't assume we all have that problem. Bear 45/70 wrote: Spaceman Spiff wrote: Thats really just political correctness bull@#$%. There is nothing wrong with a beer/ very moderate alcohol while shooting. relax, enjoy, be safe.
luvmyglock wrote:
johnnyb wrote: luvmyglock wrote: johnnyb wrote: no @#$% dude, get off your @#$%ing high horse.
go back to kalifornia
Take a chill pill. I did nothing to you. You are rude and inconsiderate. If you don't like what I have to say then you are free to exercise your back button. I personally don't think that I am on a "high horse" by not wanting to get shot by some drunk retard with an AK, or hit by a ricochet from some idiot popping of shots at rocks. I DO , however, think that you are WAY out of line with your comments.
waaa.
you didn't say they were drunk you said they were "drinking beer"
don't like what i say? you are free to not start threads.
Alcohol, even in small quantities, impairs judgment. That is the very first thing to go when consuming any alcohol. By the time you feel the physical and psychological effects of alcohol, your judgment is severely impaired. This is not good when operating and handling a loaded firearm. If you like to drink and handle guns, so be it...you are probably doing society a favor if your attitude and intelligence in the real world follows suit.......
I will never be on the same range with you, EVER. Your thinking is what causes accidents.
The only ignorant one is you. Drinking while shooting should get you what you deserve, a death sentence for being to stupid to continue living because you are a danger to others. Woah!! We hit rock bottom then got out the dynamite and kept digging. 
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compmanio365
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 11:36 pm |
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Is everyone on this forum 2 years old? Agree to disagree, and move on......
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luvmyglock
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 12:53 am |
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Couldn't agree more. That's why I extracted myself from this conversation a week ago...
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Bear 45/70
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 01:10 am |
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luvmyglock wrote: Couldn't agree more. That's why I extracted myself from this conversation a week ago...
You guys actually amaze me. You allow guys to come on here and advocate shootng while drinking and Open Carry and drinking at the same time. The tolerance for this kind of thing will loose the right to carry any gun at all as politicians will no tolerate it and the press won't either. To not say it is wrong is as bad as the cops and their not rolling over on bad cops. Total disbelief.
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luvmyglock
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 01:37 am |
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Bear 45/70 wrote: luvmyglock wrote: Couldn't agree more. That's why I extracted myself from this conversation a week ago...
You guys actually amaze me. You allow guys to come on here and advocate shootng while drinking and Open Carry and drinking at the same time. The tolerance for this kind of thing will loose the right to carry any gun at all as politicians will no tolerate it and the press won't either. To not say it is wrong is as bad as the cops and their not rolling over on bad cops. Total disbelief. Bear,
I did not at ANY time say that it was OK. I would like to point out the fact that this is my thread. I was the one who was ORIGINALLY complaining about the mix of alcohol and guns. I am just done arguing with someone who will obviously not have his mind changed. I submit him to whatever his destiny of drinking and shooting is. I will, however, be removing myself from his presence should I ever see him or anybody like him on the range in the future. I do NOT think it is right. THAT's why I started this thread. I think you are barking up the the wrong tree with this post in specific. I am not the one you should be directing your opposition towards. Thanks.
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Bear 45/70
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 01:48 am |
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luvmyglock wrote: Bear 45/70 wrote: luvmyglock wrote: Couldn't agree more. That's why I extracted myself from this conversation a week ago...
You guys actually amaze me. You allow guys to come on here and advocate shootng while drinking and Open Carry and drinking at the same time. The tolerance for this kind of thing will loose the right to carry any gun at all as politicians will no tolerate it and the press won't either. To not say it is wrong is as bad as the cops and their not rolling over on bad cops. Total disbelief. Bear,
I did not at ANY time say that it was OK. I would like to point out the fact that this is my thread. I was the one who was ORIGINALLY complaining about the mix of alcohol and guns. I am just done arguing with someone who will obviously not have his mind changed. I submit him to whatever his destiny of drinking and shooting is. I will, however, be removing myself from his presence should I ever see him or anybody like him on the range in the future. I do NOT think it is right. THAT's why I started this thread. I think you are barking up the the wrong tree with this post in specific. I am not the one you should be directing your opposition towards. Thanks.
But no one but me is telling these guys using alcohol and guns that it is not only poor judgement but wrong and the silence is deafening from the crowd. I was not just picking on you. You clled it on the outsiders, but no one has said a thing to the forum people saying booze and guns is a good mix.
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luvmyglock
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 03:16 am |
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luvmyglock wrote: johnnyb wrote: luvmyglock wrote: johnnyb wrote: no @#$% dude, get off your @#$%ing high horse.
go back to kalifornia
Take a chill pill. I did nothing to you. You are rude and inconsiderate. If you don't like what I have to say then you are free to exercise your back button. I personally don't think that I am on a "high horse" by not wanting to get shot by some drunk retard with an AK, or hit by a ricochet from some idiot popping of shots at rocks. I DO , however, think that you are WAY out of line with your comments.
waaa.
you didn't say they were drunk you said they were "drinking beer"
don't like what i say? you are free to not start threads.
Alcohol, even in small quantities, impairs judgment. That is the very first thing to go when consuming any alcohol. By the time you feel the physical and psychological effects of alcohol, your judgment is severely impaired. This is not good when operating and handling a loaded firearm. If you like to drink and handle guns, so be it...you are probably doing society a favor if your attitude and intelligence in the real world follows suit.......
Seems to me I said something along those lines.....OH yeah! Here it is!
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