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kparker
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 06:38 am |
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Same old thing with government agencies. Making law with policy and there is no oversight anymore.
I bow to no man in my dislike of regulatory overreach.
However, in the case of interstate gun sales, isn't this actually in the ('68) GCA, rather than just being something BATF came up with and added to the CFR?
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Bear 45/70
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 06:39 am |
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kparker wrote: Same old thing with government agencies. Making law with policy and there is no oversight anymore.
I bow to no man in my dislike of regulatory overreach.
However, in the case of interstate gun sales, isn't this actually in the ('68) GCA, rather than just being something BATF came up with and added to the CFR?
Drafted on the advise of the ATF.
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kparker
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 07:01 am |
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Ah. Ok, Yet Another Reason to dislike some particular agency.
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kparker
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 07:01 am |
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[ oops, double tap]
Last edited on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 07:41 am by kparker
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gramercyk35
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Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 02:12 am |
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| so what are the rules if any about carrying in bars?
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Bear 45/70
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Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 03:31 am |
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gramercyk35 wrote: so what are the rules if any about carrying in bars?
If the area is restricted to over 21, no guns. Under 21 allowed, it's legal to carry. See RCW 9.41.300 (1d) "That portion of an establishment classified by the state liquor control board as off-limits to persons under twenty-one years of age;....."
Or look here http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.300
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vote_no
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Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 05:16 am |
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We have a handgun registry? I might have to go back to Wyoming.
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John Hardin
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Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 06:00 pm |
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vote_no wrote: We have a handgun registry? I might have to go back to Wyoming.
No, there's no registry. However, FFLs do log purchases, so if you purchase a handgun commercially or receive one from out of state, there is a paper trail.
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Gray Peterson
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Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 08:37 pm |
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We have a dealer sales registry for pistols. You are NOT required to update the DOL with your address or advise them that you've sold your gun.
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neddis
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Posted: Mon Sep 1st, 2008 07:04 am |
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Ok, so I am I correct in reading that local cities, counties, and municipalities can't make laws restricting the carry of weapons, only the discharge? So, this would make it legal to OC in any city in WA?
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sv_libertarian
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Posted: Mon Sep 1st, 2008 07:05 am |
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neddis wrote: Ok, so I am I correct in reading that local cities, counties, and municipalities can't make laws restricting the carry of weapons, only the discharge? So, this would make it legal to OC in any city in WA?
Yes.
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carnaby
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Posted: Mon Sep 8th, 2008 05:44 pm |
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Just to clarify a point in the FAQ. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but carrying on "school grounds" is legal, as stated in the FAQ when picking up and dropping off a student from a school. However, this does not mean that you can enter the school building. The building, I believe, is always off limits. So you can walk your child to the door of the building, but you may not enter.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I spent a lot of time looking through the RCW's on this, and I did not see an exception for the school building, only the nebulous "grounds".
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Right Wing Wacko
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Posted: Tue Sep 9th, 2008 06:36 pm |
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carnaby wrote: Just to clarify a point in the FAQ. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but carrying on "school grounds" is legal, as stated in the FAQ when picking up and dropping off a student from a school. However, this does not mean that you can enter the school building. The building, I believe, is always off limits. So you can walk your child to the door of the building, but you may not enter.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I spent a lot of time looking through the RCW's on this, and I did not see an exception for the school building, only the nebulous "grounds".
That is my understanding also. This is also a place where I definitely refrain from Open Carry. While it is probably legal it's one of those cases where unless you really want to make a point it's not worth it.
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scarlett1125
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Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 07:28 pm |
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As someone who works in education, I am concerned about recent shootings on school property. However, I do not want my classroom to be a place where my students are afraid or feel uncomfortable, so at work, I CC. Likewise, I would rather be able to have a conversation with my daughter's teacher about my daughter, rather than about my handgun, so even though I am outside to pick Franki up, I still CC there, too.
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Granum
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Posted: Fri Oct 10th, 2008 11:51 pm |
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I think it has been touched on by the places stated that u can't carry but I'm gona ask anyways.
IS it ok to carry in a bank oc and cc
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Bear 45/70
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 12:17 am |
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| There are no laws against CC or OC in banks. However some banks can be a$$holes about it, just like some stores.
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Granum
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 12:25 am |
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Bear 45/70 wrote: There are no laws against CC or OC in banks. However some banks can be a$$holes about it, just like some stores.
Thank you. I didnt know so I always left it at home "live 2 blocks from the bank" now I'll give it a try.
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sv_libertarian
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 08:36 am |
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Granum wrote: I think it has been touched on by the places stated that u can't carry but I'm gona ask anyways.
IS it ok to carry in a bank oc and cc
The places listed as no carry are the only ones the State of Washington prohibits lawful carry, OC and CC. The feds play by their own rules. Needless to say a private property owner can prohibit carry on their property, but if it isn't posted or you haven't been told otherwise, go ahead and carry.
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sv_libertarian
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Posted: Wed Oct 22nd, 2008 02:52 am |
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I've added some stuff to the FAQ's in the last couple of days.
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sv_libertarian
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Posted: Sun Nov 16th, 2008 03:59 am |
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Added question 21.
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