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NavyLT Regular Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 3rd, 2009 11:24 pm |
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I created in Word to standardize the fonts. Rearranged things a tiny bit. It has the correct requirements for carrying in a vehicle without a CPL. I added the hunting regulation prohibiting all loaded rifles and shotguns in vehicles. Corrected the couple of references to other RCWs that needed zeroes added to the numbers.
What do you think? Should we sticky this version at the top as well as the original ?
I also have the MS Word version available if anyone wants it.
Attachment: Washington Gun Rights.pdf (Downloaded 170 times) Last edited on Tue Oct 6th, 2009 04:15 pm by NavyLT
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Nebulis01 Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 12:27 am |
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Looks good, mind tossing me the word version? ntshelby [at] comcast.net
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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 12:52 am |
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I hope you have a big wallet since you just made yourself liable.
"8. IF IT IS NOT PROHIBITED BY STATUTE, IT IS LEGAL."
and its Fish and Game not hunting
also washington is a shall issue not a must issue state.
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NavyLT Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 12:58 am |
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Boo Boo wrote: I hope you have a big wallet since you just made yourself liable.
"8. IF IT IS NOT PROHIBITED BY STATUTE, IT IS LEGAL."
and its Fish and Game not hunting
also washington is a shall issue not a must issue state.
Thanks! I'll change must to shall. It is not Fish and Game either, again, read the statutes. It's Fish and Wildlife. I'll change it to what is in the statute.
Ok. I changed hunting to fish and wildlife and changed must to shall. Does anyone have anything else before I post the new pdf file?
Last edited on Sun Oct 4th, 2009 01:06 am by NavyLT
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Machoduck Regular Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 01:08 am |
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Hold on. The legal term "shall", when translated into peoplespeak is "must". I know that every member of the forum knows the meaning of "shall" but not the general public. They are the target audience and I actually thought "good - there will be less confusion now."
MD
PS: Mrs. Duck adds that the folder does not purport itself to be a legal document.
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M1Gunr Regular Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 02:12 am |
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I'd rather see standard bold letters for "Washington Gun Rights" to me it looks like "Gin rights"
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Machoduck Regular Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 03:13 am |
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Now that you mention it, yes - standard bold type. Bias alert: I've always hated that olde English type or font.
MD
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NavyLT Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 04:33 am |
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Machoduck wrote: Hold on. The legal term "shall", when translated into peoplespeak is "must". I know that every member of the forum knows the meaning of "shall" but not the general public. They are the target audience and I actually thought "good - there will be less confusion now."
MD
PS: Mrs. Duck adds that the folder does not purport itself to be a legal document.
OK, so, not counting my votes:
I have one vote for "shall issue", one vote for "must issue".
I have two votes for plain font for "Washington Gun Rights".
So far.
What's wrong with Gin rights anyway?
Last edited on Sun Oct 4th, 2009 04:34 am by NavyLT
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NavyLT Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 04:39 am |
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How about this for shall vs must issue faq:
1. Washington is a "shall issue" state. This means that the issuing agency must issue a Concealed Pistol License (CPL) to any applicant that meets all statutory qualifications.
OK, the newest changes have been incorporated and the link in the opening post has been updated with the newest version.
Last edited on Sun Oct 4th, 2009 04:52 am by NavyLT
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Machoduck Regular Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 04:53 am |
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Bingo!
MD
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Boo Boo Regular Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 05:55 am |
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| still has number 8. so you are going to pay the legal bills for anyone arrested. or are you an attorney and will provide said services?
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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 06:23 am |
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Kind of nit-picky, but on page two the lower portion of the second column, and the upper portion of the thrid column seem to have a different margin set.
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NavyLT Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 05:53 pm |
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Boo Boo wrote: still has number 8. so you are going to pay the legal bills for anyone arrested. or are you an attorney and will provide said services?
Did you bring this up in regards to the original pamphlet too? Have you ever given out one of the original pamphlets? It was in there too. If you want to edit it, I will be happy to send you the word file that you can edit for yourself
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NavyLT Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 06:00 pm |
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911Boss wrote: Kind of nit-picky, but on page two the lower portion of the second column, and the upper portion of the thrid column seem to have a different margin set.
Fixed it. Thanks!
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Machoduck Regular Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 06:50 pm |
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The new-new pamphlet looks great!
MD
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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 09:48 pm |
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| i've passed out a few. and I never actualy went over them. and the ones I do have I will sharpie that out. as it is like you giving legal advise without a law degree. and shpould never have been put in the original
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Machoduck Regular Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 10:31 pm |
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Boo Boo, can you cite an example of something illegal that has no law prohibiting it, preferably in the context of firearm carry, which is the obvious context of the pamphlet? I thought Statement 8 was a tautology.
MD
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NavyLT Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 10:48 pm |
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Version with the margins fixed is now posted in the original post.
I still think we should have Gin rights, though. 
Last edited on Sun Oct 4th, 2009 10:48 pm by NavyLT
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M1Gunr Regular Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 11:04 pm |
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NavyLT wrote: I still think we should have Gin rights, though. 
Ahh but you do...
The Eighteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, prohibiting the manufacture, sale and importation of intoxicating liquors, was ratified on 16 January 1919. Its provisions went into force a year and a day later, on 17 January 1920.
Prohibition remained in effect until the 18th Amendment was repealed by the 21st Amendment, which was ratified on 5 December 1933 with immediate effect.
Come this December 5th we can all celebrate 76 years of Gin rights.
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Posted: Mon Oct 5th, 2009 12:50 am |
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| but having it their mans you are legally saying if its nopt in the pamphlet its legal. which is to give legal advise. thus you are implying that you are providing a legal service
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