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Washington Businesses that Ban Guns
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FMCDH
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 Posted: Thu May 21st, 2009 04:49 am
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Here is a good word for a few businesses I frequent in the Bothell/Kenmore area...

Kenmore Safeway, 6850 NE Bothell Way, Kenmore
Never been so much as approached for OC in all the years I have been going there, even by the King County Sheriffs and Kenmore PD who frequent it. Had a few brief conversations with customers however, never negative.

Kenmore Barber, 6524 NE 181st St., Kenmore (425-481-4150)
(10$ haircuts for public servants, i.e. Military, Police, Fire, etc.)
Talked with the owner and the other woman who works there and they are both ok with "a law abiding citizen who packs a firearm with them." :quirky  Nice people :)

Great Clips, 6850 NE Bothell Way, Kenmore (Right next to Safeway)
I OC there every time and have never had them bat so much as an eye or make a comment. Not sure what their official policy is, but they are a national chain so I imagine its the same as most chain service stores, APSL. Beware: Mothers with children frequent the store, so you MAY be confronted even though I have not. The seating area is small, so you WILL be noticed.

DJs Loan and Sport, 10412 Beardslee Blvd, Bothell (425-486-1919)
Its a family owned business and my FFL dealer of choice ($30) OC isn't common but the brothers that own it don't have any problem with it as long as it stays holstered, same rule as CC.

If anyone would like me to do test case for any of the other businesses in the area, let me know. Be happy to expand my horizons. ;)

Last edited on Thu May 21st, 2009 07:34 am by FMCDH

knight_308
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 Posted: Thu May 28th, 2009 09:02 pm
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I don't know if I'm repeating something here, but check out this post:
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum65/26012.html

It certainly wouldn't be a replacement for the DNP list, but is very cool.

M1Gunr
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 Posted: Thu May 28th, 2009 09:37 pm
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updated: Lakewood, Tacoma & Federal Way

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 Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 05:58 am
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Due to the overall need, we've started a new place where people can post nationwide the gun friendly/unfriendly status of businesses

http://www.nocarryzones.com

The database in in sandbox mode until 6/1/2009 when it goes live 100% 

Features: 
  1. Live maps showing the status of your area's no carry businesses
  2. Export a list of businesses that are not friendly to PDF format to carry with you
  3. Discussion on your experiences with those businesses.
  4. The ability to bulk load a CSV file of those businesses in your area. 
This is going to be a nationwide database and we'd like to invite everyone to come check it out provide us feedback and submit your sites


GreatWhiteLlama
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 Posted: Sun May 31st, 2009 03:25 am
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"Due to the overall need, we've started a new place where people can post nationwide the gun friendly/unfriendly status of businesses

http://www.nocarryzones.com

The database in in sandbox mode until 6/1/2009 when it goes live 100% 

Features: 
  1. Live maps showing the status of your area's no carry businesses
  2. Export a list of businesses that are not friendly to PDF format to carry with you
  3. Discussion on your experiences with those businesses.
  4. The ability to bulk load a CSV file of those businesses in your area. 
This is going to be a nationwide database and we'd like to invite everyone to come check it out provide us feedback and submit your sites"

As of this posting, there is no place to post gun friendly locations.

Change this and remember that we are concerned with both forms of carry, not just concealed.

Thanks!

Edited to quote what my response was in reference to.

Last edited on Sun May 31st, 2009 03:27 am by GreatWhiteLlama

M1Gunr
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 Posted: Mon Jun 1st, 2009 01:32 am
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Pro List add -

Needing a haircut badly I decided to stop in and give them a try. Wearing shorts and my 1911 I got a look as I went in but nothing said. Once I was in the chair Gilbert asked if I carried all the time at which point I said I did. He lifted his smock and showed me his pistol as said with a big grin "Me Too."  We discussed OpenCarry, guns and laws. He's also a WAC member and collects pistols. I left 75 of the Gun Rights Pamphlets with him and he is now my new barber. For those of you who like the feel of a straight razor its still in use in his shop ($10 for a haircut).

Gilbert & Norma's Hairstyling and Barber Shop
6119 E. McKinnley Ave.
Tacoma, WA.
(Se Habla Espanol)

GizmoHD
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 Posted: Sun Jun 7th, 2009 08:45 am
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T-RaV wrote: "Due to the overall need, we've started a new place where people can post nationwide the gun friendly/unfriendly status of businesses

http://www.nocarryzones.com

The database in in sandbox mode until 6/1/2009 when it goes live 100% 

Features: 
  1. Live maps showing the status of your area's no carry businesses
  2. Export a list of businesses that are not friendly to PDF format to carry with you
  3. Discussion on your experiences with those businesses.
  4. The ability to bulk load a CSV file of those businesses in your area. 
This is going to be a nationwide database and we'd like to invite everyone to come check it out provide us feedback and submit your sites"

As of this posting, there is no place to post gun friendly locations.

Change this and remember that we are concerned with both forms of carry, not just concealed.

Thanks!

Edited to quote what my response was in reference to.

Added the functionality to highlight those businesses that are supportive and the language has been modified to Carry (both open and concealed).  So I'd like to invite all of you to come check it out.  I've manually entered a bunch of the businesses listed on this site in order to get going.  So Check it out!  I look forward to seeing you there.

Additionally, each time a business is posted/modified. a related entry is posted to the forums there that have a direct link to the map (for direct discussions on a given business)

http://www.nocarryzones.com

Last edited on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 07:01 am by GizmoHD

DEROS72
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 Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2009 07:49 am
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Speaking of haircuts I go to Third Diminsion next to the Fred Meyer on Pac Hwy all the time open carry.They have never had an issue with it.See Dana there she is really good.Also My daughter and and son in law took me to the Firecreek Grille for dinner , in Kent by the Golf course .I was open carry and no one said a word.

Washintonian_For_Liberty
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 Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2009 03:44 am
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Bookman wrote: I currently have an e-mail in to Kroger. They are the parent corporation for Albertson's, Fred Meyer, QFC & others. I'll post the results when I receive them.

Just a correction, Albertson's is owned by parent company Supervalu Inc. not Kroger.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2009 08:32 pm
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Add Burlington coat factory to the DNP list....

Shot them an email after being kicked out, apparently they changed their policy...

Only uniformed, on duty, police officers, are allowed to carry..

W T F....


Dear Mr. xxxxxxx,


Thank you for contacting us with your question.

We have contacted our legal department, and according to our current policy concerning firearms, unless you are uniformed police officer or member of law enforcement on official business in our stores, we do not allow firearms in our stores.


This policy applies to all the stores we operate in the United States and Puerto Rico.


Sincerely,


Burlington Coat Factory Customer Relations

sudden valley gunner
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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 04:11 pm
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Thats too bad I hate to see that list grow.

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 Posted: Mon Jul 6th, 2009 03:20 am
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By law, can't off duty police officers carry anywhere, regardless of what business restricts firearms?

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 Posted: Mon Jul 6th, 2009 03:30 am
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No, a private business can still make their own rules.  SOme departments require their officers to carry off duty, when they encounter a business that prohibits their carry, they must respect that as you and I do.

Aaron1124
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 Posted: Mon Jul 6th, 2009 03:42 am
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Interesting. Well, that's understandable. I guess it would be the same circumstances as entering a private residence while off duty. If they're not on duty, and the home owner doesn't want them to bring their weapon inside, then they can't. Same logic that I obviously overlooked.

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 Posted: Mon Jul 6th, 2009 04:45 am
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Even if they are on duty, they cannot enter private property without permission unless they are investigating a crime.

Aaron1124
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 Posted: Mon Jul 6th, 2009 05:18 am
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Are you talking about *any* kind of private property? It seems that would be logical for residences, but a business? Saying if a certain store restricts firearms, and a police officer runs inside to grab some lunch, the store management can legally tell him to leave? If that's true, that sounds kind of funny.

j2l3
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 Posted: Mon Jul 6th, 2009 05:24 am
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It is true, doesn't happen very often, but it is true.  Police do not have blanket authority to go wherever they want unless a crime has occured and the location is part of the investigation.

If I own a business and do not want the police inside it for any reason unless called or they are investigating a crime, I can restrict that.

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 Posted: Mon Jul 6th, 2009 05:24 am
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Thats True Aaron

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 Posted: Mon Jul 6th, 2009 05:33 am
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Wow. I learned something new today. I wonder how many people would actually have the guts to tell an on duty police officer to leave their store while they were grabbing some food.

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 Posted: Mon Jul 6th, 2009 05:49 am
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For sure I'll not unless there are some really serious pressing reasons


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