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kbarrans
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 Posted: Sat Oct 13th, 2007 01:03 am
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Add Lighthouse Coffee Roasters to the list.

My girlfriend has worked there for about a year. I have been there almost every day for a year with no problems. Several of the employees are close friends of mine and all of the employees, including the manager, know I carry a gun. I do usually conceal, though.

This morning after I left the owner of the business asked my girlfriend if I carry a gun. She told him I do and that she thought he already knew that (everyone else there does.) At that point he began yelling at her how I'm never allowed back in the store and that he doesn't trust me because I have a gun. He also told her she can't bring her pocket knife to work any more. This is all coming from a guy that just got thrown out of a bar for pulling a knife on someone.

Needless to say. The owner of Lightouse Coffee is not gun friendly and possibly out of his mind. Though, the employees there are very friendly and have never had any issues with me carrying.

Also, my girlfriend quit her job there shortly after this incident.

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 Posted: Sat Oct 13th, 2007 01:13 am
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Where exactly is lighthouse coffee, I'm feeling thirsty.:P

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 Posted: Sat Oct 13th, 2007 01:18 am
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Lightouse is in Seattle on 43rd and Phinney in the Freemont neighborhood.

Lighthouse Coffee Rosters
400 North 43rd Street
Seattle, Wa 98103

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 Posted: Sat Oct 13th, 2007 10:16 am
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Agent 47 wrote: Where exactly is lighthouse coffee, I'm feeling thirsty.:P
Hey A47, wanna meet up for coffee sometime this week?... Perhaps Tuesday? *grin*

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 Posted: Sat Oct 13th, 2007 12:01 pm
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How about Monday morning? I have a doctors appointment at Harborview at 8:00am and will probably be done about 9:30. 

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 Posted: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 11:21 pm
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BluesBear wrote: How about Monday morning? I have a doctors appointment at Harborview at 8:00am and will probably be done about 9:30. 
I might be able to do Monday morning, but my first class ends at 8:30am at the UW and then my next class starts at 11:30am. Add in the 15 minutes to and from my car (I walk half the campus to class) and the 15 minutes to and from the coffee place will leave around 2 hours available. So, if we stick around at the coffee place for an hour or so, I won't have to worry about being late for class and that's more than long enough to be noticed and/or kicked-out. *chuckle*

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 Posted: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 11:48 pm
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Unfortunately I have to be at work by 8:30 on Mondays.:(

I was wondering, though, what happens on lunches and coffee trips when we get accused of organizing together armed. I seem to remember reading something about that being what the cops are trying to "get" OC'ers on.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 14th, 2007 11:55 pm
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Agent 47 wrote: Unfortunately I have to be at work by 8:30 on Mondays.:(

I was wondering, though, what happens on lunches and coffee trips when we get accused of organizing together armed. I seem to remember reading something about that being what the cops are trying to "get" OC'ers on.


They can try, but that law specifically exempts 'militia' and we, under both Federal Code and RCW, are considered the "unorganized militia"... kinda funny, though that it exempts us from being charged with organizing while being unorganized. *chuckle*

IANAL.

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 Posted: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 10:51 am
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just_a_car wrote: I might be able to do Monday morning,


PM sent with my cell phone number. Tentative plan to meet for coffee around 9:30 or ten?

I'll check my e'mail about 6am right before I leave so if anyone else wants to meet I'll PM with my #.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 16th, 2007 11:03 pm
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Well, BluesBear, his friend Karen, and I met up for coffee on Monday morning and spent a good hour and a half there drinking coffee and talking guns, FFL's and such. I was OC'ing my GLOCK 27 in a Blackhawk carbon-fiber Serpa CQC holster and Bear was OC'ing a chromed wheelgun in a light-tan leather holster (very classy).

Not once did I notice any odd looks or receive any comments what-so-ever. There were no signs posted, either.

Overall, I'd never go back there for coffee, since it was too hot (due to the roaster, I would imagine), too loud (due to the roaster, talking and slightly too-loud music), and coffee selection was abyssmal. They had only a few flavored syrups and not a single sugar-free syrup, so I had to get just a normal latte and add some Splenda®, which they had more than enough of.

So, eventhough there were no OC/gun issues with the place, I'd still not recommend it. There are so many better coffee shops around Seattle.

Though, it was great to meet up with Bear and the conversation was exceptional.

Last edited on Tue Oct 16th, 2007 11:08 pm by just_a_car

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Good Day,

I wanted to let everyone know that I noticed a couple new signs this afternoon while going in to make a payment on a loan. It appears that American General Finance companies have turned to posting 'No Firearms' signs on the outside windows of their establishment.

Please see this google map for exact location where these were posted.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=american+general+finance,+tacoma&ie=UTF8&z=9&iwloc=A&om=1

 

I did ask a representative about the sign and they told me that the signs were at all of their locations and it has been adapted as company policy. So another for the book guys, I will not go into pay my loan any further even though the receptionist is HOTT, I will pay by mail because I dont think it is a necessary stance.

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 Posted: Mon Jan 14th, 2008 03:51 am
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Rook wrote: Good Day,

I wanted to let everyone know that I noticed a couple new signs this afternoon while going in to make a payment on a loan. It appears that American General Finance companies have turned to posting 'No Firearms' signs on the outside windows of their establishment.

Please see this google map for exact location where these were posted.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=american+general+finance,+tacoma&ie=UTF8&z=9&iwloc=A&om=1

 

I did ask a representative about the sign and they told me that the signs were at all of their locations and it has been adapted as company policy. So another for the book guys, I will not go into pay my loan any further even though the receptionist is HOTT, I will pay by mail because I dont think it is a necessary stance.

I would find a competitor of theirs and see if they will match (or beat) the terms of your current loan and transfer your balance over to another company.  After you have successfully done so, send a letter to corporate w/your former account number and the reason why you have decided to NOT allow them the benefit of your interest payment each month.

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 Posted: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 07:58 pm
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Flaming Joes hot wings joint in Spokane. But there is usually LEO or firemen in there 9 out of 10 times I go in. And damn the wings are sooooooo good. Way better than Hooters.

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 Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 08:32 pm
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Bump. 

MD

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surfj9009 wrote:
Flaming Joes hot wings joint in Spokane. But there is usually LEO or firemen in there 9 out of 10 times I go in. And damn the wings are sooooooo good. Way better than Hooters.
as I recently discovered, hooters in Spokane is a no go as well

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 Posted: Tue Mar 18th, 2008 09:01 am
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Do I dare mention WAC?:banghead:

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surfj9009 wrote: surfj9009 wrote:
Flaming Joes hot wings joint in Spokane. But there is usually LEO or firemen in there 9 out of 10 times I go in. And damn the wings are sooooooo good. Way better than Hooters.
as I recently discovered, hooters in Spokane is a no go as well

Sorry, surfj, maybe I missed the thread... was there an encounter where you were asked to leave as per the "standards" I laid down in the original post?

If so, I'll be happy to add them to the list.

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If a business does not allow OC, do they legally have to post a sign stating "firearms prohibited"? And/or a company policy? What I'm getting at is, if no sign is posted and there is no company policy to prohibit the OC, and I'm asked to leave the store, what can I do or say? Obviously I would let them know that OC is completely legal.

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just_a_car wrote:
surfj9009 wrote: surfj9009 wrote:
Flaming Joes hot wings joint in Spokane. But there is usually LEO or firemen in there 9 out of 10 times I go in. And damn the wings are sooooooo good. Way better than Hooters.
as I recently discovered, hooters in Spokane is a no go as well

Sorry, surfj, maybe I missed the thread... was there an encounter where you were asked to leave as per the "standards" I laid down in the original post?

If so, I'll be happy to add them to the list.
actually they belong on the watch list, as I am yet to so the official written policy. Was treated rather rudely but did not fuss, I just left. Will follow up though when I get home. The details of the incident are in the "OC in Spokane " thread. I can't provide a link because I am on my iPhone. Sorry. You should read it though. It was my first full day of OC.

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lilothedog wrote: If a business does not allow OC, do they legally have to post a sign stating "firearms prohibited"? And/or a company policy? What I'm getting at is, if no sign is posted and there is no company policy to prohibit the OC, and I'm asked to leave the store, what can I do or say? Obviously I would let them know that OC is completely legal.
Posted or not if you are asked to leave then you must comply or face being charged with tresspassing.


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