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Posted: Tue Mar 11th, 2008 05:11 am |
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t3rmin wrote: I can't seem to find the download link. Is it supposed to be in the first post? It was there, but since the board is having errors, I can't update that post to show the new file. Follow the link in that post though, and it will take you a thread with the file.
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Cremator75 Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 02:50 am |
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This is beautiful. Maybe someone with more skills than me can make one for Oregon.
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surfj9009 Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 10th, 2008 04:00 pm |
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Just a quick bump since I was finally able to put the newest file back in the first thread where it originally was.
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LongRider Member

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Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 12:37 am |
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Hello, This is my first post here. Though I have been visiting / lurking for a while I registered today so I could comment on this and say thank you very much. One of the most useful intelligent items I have found on any pro 2A website. This is a great tool and one I will use if ever confronted by a LEO about my open carrying. As well as to help inform other interested parties.
As an Art Director / graphic designer, CEO of an award winning Ad Agency, I would like to applaud your efforts you have done an excellent job. The only possible suggestion I have is that if you really felt the need to not omit any part of the RCW's you used, you could go to a legal page format with four columns rather than three. Personally I do not see the need it is clean concise and appealing as is. Great, lay out, look and feel. Every law enforcement agency in the state should distribute copies of this to all law enforcement officers, prosecutors as part of their mandatory training. I do intend on sending your link to a Washington State Patrol Training Officer, so that he can use it as part of his course. Well done. Thank you.
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surfj9009 Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 03:23 am |
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LongRider wrote: Hello, This is my first post here. Though I have been visiting / lurking for a while I registered today so I could comment on this and say thank you very much. One of the most useful intelligent items I have found on any pro 2A website. This is a great tool and one I will use if ever confronted by a LEO about my open carrying. As well as to help inform other interested parties.
As an Art Director / graphic designer, CEO of an award winning Ad Agency, I would like to applaud your efforts you have done an excellent job. The only possible suggestion I have is that if you really felt the need to not omit any part of the RCW's you used, you could go to a legal page format with four columns rather than three. Personally I do not see the need it is clean concise and appealing as is. Great, lay out, look and feel. Every law enforcement agency in the state should distribute copies of this to all law enforcement officers, prosecutors as part of their mandatory training. I do intend on sending your link to a Washington State Patrol Training Officer, so that he can use it as part of his course. Well done. Thank you.
Longrider, welcome to the board. Washington has a great section on this site. There was a lot of work by many people to get this done. My friend helped with the format a bunch, as he is a graphics design artist for Signal Point. I had considered going legal format but I wanted to keep it straight and to the point, without overdoing it. I was also concerned with making it easy to print for anybody who downloads it. I am really hoping this does end up in the hands of many LEO's in this state. I plan on sending it to some training officers, and other local departments here in the Spokane area. Chief of police, sheriff, etc. Maybe even the newspaper, city council, etc. etc. etc.
Well again, welcome to the community. Please feel free to deliver this pamphlet to anybody you want, copy it, print it, and all that, as much as your heart desires. That's why we made it. Hopefully one day we will see you at an OC get together or lunch or something.
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sv_libertarian State Researcher

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Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 03:28 am |
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LongRider wrote: Hello, This is my first post here. Though I have been visiting / lurking for a while I registered today so I could comment on this and say thank you very much. One of the most useful intelligent items I have found on any pro 2A website. This is a great tool and one I will use if ever confronted by a LEO about my open carrying. As well as to help inform other interested parties.
As an Art Director / graphic designer, CEO of an award winning Ad Agency, I would like to applaud your efforts you have done an excellent job. The only possible suggestion I have is that if you really felt the need to not omit any part of the RCW's you used, you could go to a legal page format with four columns rather than three. Personally I do not see the need it is clean concise and appealing as is. Great, lay out, look and feel. Every law enforcement agency in the state should distribute copies of this to all law enforcement officers, prosecutors as part of their mandatory training. I do intend on sending your link to a Washington State Patrol Training Officer, so that he can use it as part of his course. Well done. Thank you.
Greetings and welcome! May I inquire as to where in Washington you are?
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LongRider Member

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Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 05:15 pm |
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sv_libertarian wrote:Greetings and welcome! May I inquire as to where in Washington you are?
Just west of you off the Skokomish Reservation
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2nd_to_one Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 03:17 am |
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Surfj9009,
I am still not getting good results printing it on my inkjet printer. The printable area on my printer seems to require about 3/8 inch of whitespace on each margin. I suspect that your problem is similar as most inkjets tend to have larger unprintable areas on the (what would be) top and bottom of the page than laser printers due to paper handlling requirements.
In light of this I had a couple of questions. First, what program did you use to develop the pamphlet layout? Second, would you be amenable to sharing your original source file? I would like to play around with the font sizes and margins to see if I can get it formatted to work well on my printer. If I can then perhaps you could make both versions available because I suspect that I am not the only one having problems printing it on an inkjet.
For what it's worth I have used several different variations of scaling and other settings and while I can get it to print without cutting off the edges it does not fold neatly. I printed it on an HP color laser printer and it fits with no scaling and looks really good.
Please let me know what you think.
Regards,
Steve
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surfj9009 Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 03:27 am |
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2nd_to_one wrote: Surfj9009,
I am still not getting good results printing it on my inkjet printer. The printable area on my printer seems to require about 3/8 inch of whitespace on each margin. I suspect that your problem is similar as most inkjets tend to have larger unprintable areas on the (what would be) top and bottom of the page than laser printers due to paper handlling requirements.
In light of this I had a couple of questions. First, what program did you use to develop the pamphlet layout? Second, would you be amenable to sharing your original source file? I would like to play around with the font sizes and margins to see if I can get it formatted to work well on my printer. If I can then perhaps you could make both versions available because I suspect that I am not the only one having problems printing it on an inkjet.
For what it's worth I have used several different variations of scaling and other settings and while I can get it to print without cutting off the edges it does not fold neatly. I printed it on an HP color laser printer and it fits with no scaling and looks really good.
Please let me know what you think.
Regards,
Steve
I used open office, available at openoffice.org for free.
It's just like Microsoft word but free. I would put the file up here, but it won't let me because it is an invalid attachment. I suspect opening it with word would make it look quite a bit different.
PM me your email though and I will email the original source to you. If you get it right, email it back to me and I will put it up in the first post as an alternative to the first. That's a very good idea. I don't doubt others have the same problem. I just can't fix it, because my bud did most of the formatting for me. It still wont work on my HP right either.
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Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 10:32 pm |
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Well it wouldnt let me post 2 files in the same post, so i listed the edited one in my second post in this thread. I feel like I am jumping all over the place.
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Posted: Mon Apr 14th, 2008 09:28 pm |
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surfj9009 wrote: If anybody has suggestions as to where else I should add some more color, underlining, highlighting, and visual accents anywhere please feel free to make your suggestions. While I think it looks pretty good now, I am still open to suggestions as far as the visual aspects go too because if we are going to go in on printing a large number of these, we all should get to voice our opinion of the finished product and what we want to see in it.
Thanks again for all the help everybody.
If you are going to a traditional four color proccess print shop as opposed to some place like Kinko's. I can do the color seperations for you before sending it to the printer, to make sure all the color adjustments, traps & bleeds are done correctly. That will save you money on set or at press time because the printer will be happy as it makes his job easier i.e faster cheaper. If you send me the orginal file of any graphics you need edited. I can do those for you as good or better than anyone on the west coast or at least that is what all the awards on my wall say.
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surfj9009 Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 24th, 2008 11:34 pm |
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I am just bumping this for the recent influx of new guys.
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Alwayspacking Activist Member

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Posted: Fri Apr 25th, 2008 12:18 am |
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Good job on the pamphlet... Thanks for your time and effort in the cause.
With dedication and commitment like yours it's going to make a difference bit by bit to the Non-OC, and those who are uneducated in the subject matter.
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2nd_to_one Member
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Posted: Wed May 7th, 2008 05:04 pm |
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In the absence of a sticky for this very useful posting I am replying to bump it to the top for our new readers.
Regards,
Steve
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t3rmin Member

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Posted: Wed May 28th, 2008 01:16 am |
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| Bump for sticky! Had a heck of a time finding this thread today...
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David.Car Member

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Posted: Thu Jun 5th, 2008 03:55 pm |
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Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 06:22 am |
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Machoduck Member

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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 07:28 pm |
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Bump.
MD
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heresolong Member

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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 04:01 am |
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Who do you have to kill around here to get something made a sticky?
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Jim675 Founder's Club Member

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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 06:33 am |
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Sorry folks, I've been updating the other thread. I've ordered 5000 glossies of the original layout. Other variations can be ordered if desired. I believe its about a week before they hit my place in Seattle.
Can we merge these threads?
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