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hugh jarmis
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Posted: Mon Apr 27th, 2009 07:34 pm |
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Please read and sign the petition below - Wisconsin residents only.
This petition to the wisconsin legislature and governor seeks to have the onerous school zone restriction and vehicle carry restrictions repealled. As we know, the "1000 ft from the edge of a school propety" law has the potential to ensnare law-abiding gun owners in a legal battle facing felony charges.
It land-locks people who live near schools, unable to walk off of their property while they open-carry.
Vehicle carry restrictions are equally cumbersome. Having to load/unload, holster/ unholster your firearm dozens of times if you are out running errands is very bad policy and should be abolished as well.
Please sign the petition and check the option to make your email address available to the petition author so that we may update you if something important occurs with the issue.
http://www.petitiononline.com/wi1848oc/petition.html
To: Wisconsin Legislature & Governor
As the Wisconsin Attorney General noted at http://www.doj.state.wi.us/news/files/FinalOpenCarryMemo.pdf in April of 2009, the orderly open carry of holstered handguns is not only legal in Wisconsin, it is protected by the state constitution. In fact, Wisconsin is just like most states where open carry is allowed without any permit. Unfortunately Wisconsin state law bars the open carry of holstered handguns in vehicles and within 1,000 feet of any school. Accordingly, we submit to you this petition for redress of these onerous and odious restrictions on our open carry rights:
1. Every individual has the right and responsibility to defend their self against unjustified threats of death or serious bodily injury.
2. The Constitutions of the United States and Wisconsin guarantee the right of individuals to keep and bear arms; and as the United States Supreme Court held in the DC gun ban case, DC v. Heller, "bear" means "carry."
3. Criminals are not deterred by rules, regulations, and laws forbidding the possession of weapons - and frankly, according to a recent FBI study criminals don't open carry or even wear holsters. See Anthony Pinizzotto, et al., Violent Encounters: A Study of Felonious Assaults on Our Nation's Law Enforcement Officers, FBI (2006) (finding that violent criminals carefully "conceal" their guns
and "eschew holsters"), summary available at http://www.forcesciencenews.com/home/detail.html?serial=62.
4. Due to the risk of assault on motorists by criminals and car-jackers, most states allow handgun carry in vehicles without any license.
5. The Supreme Court struck down the federal school zone gun ban as unconstitutional in US v. Lopez, and school zone gun bans like Wisconsin's are almost unknown in other states.
6. The Wisconsin school zone and vehicle open carry bans mandate widespread and unnecessary gun handling and loading/unloading in public areas as citizens move about our state, as well as making vehicles and school zones into victim disarmament zones.
7. The Wisconsin school zone and vehicle open carry bans are a threat to public safety and unconstitutionally infringe on the right to open carry.
For the foregoing reasons, we residents of the State of Wisconsin demand repeal of the onerous and odious vehicle and school zone open carry bans. We also call for maintaining the current complete state preemption of local gun control power, and for the legislature to consider creating a license system to authorize citizens the privilege to conceal their handguns as they move about the state.
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Mike
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Posted: Mon Apr 27th, 2009 07:52 pm |
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| Great work! Let's get this petition link on every blog and news column comments section in Wisconisn ASAP!!
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hugh jarmis
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Posted: Mon Apr 27th, 2009 08:09 pm |
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| Can someone post to other forums as well, glocktalk, ar-15, etc.
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WIG19
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Posted: Mon Apr 27th, 2009 09:04 pm |
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Frankly, witnessing para 6 is one of those things that is more likely to cause a "public disturbance" than having the firearm already holstered. And the excess gun-handling is a valid safety issue.
In those interests, one could argue that "practical" execution of the right is, again, dissuaded by the restrictions placed on its exercise.
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FeralOne
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Posted: Mon Apr 27th, 2009 09:29 pm |
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Signed and passed along.
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Cobbersmom
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Posted: Tue Apr 28th, 2009 04:26 am |
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| Anyone got an idea how I can link the petition to my Facebook page? I'm new at it and don't know if that's possible.
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Mike
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Posted: Tue Apr 28th, 2009 01:37 pm |
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Cobbersmom wrote: Anyone got an idea how I can link the petition to my Facebook page? I'm new at it and don't know if that's possible.
You should be able to just post the link in the "what are you doing" field
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Mike
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Posted: Tue Apr 28th, 2009 01:40 pm |
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And folks, "Operation CarryLand" to raise funds for radio ads to promote this petition is now underway - go to http://www.opencarry.org/carryland.html and in just a few seconds you can send some money via pay pall using your credit card to thsi effort -YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A PAY PAL ACCOUNT.
Please give what you can - a $10 or more contribution makes you an activist member on OCDO (will be under your screen name) - but give more if you can - frankly we need to raise over $1,000 just to run a small campaign in Milwaukee which we want to do ASAP.
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Lammie
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Posted: Tue Apr 28th, 2009 05:15 pm |
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| One thing to keep in mind as this petition moves along is that statute 167.31 (use and transportation of firearms) was initiated by the DNR in order to reduce poaching of game animals. In that regard paragraph 167.31(2)(b) is overkill. The carry of a firearm in or on a vehicle is an inert action and does not in itself represent a danger to people or animals. The real danger is the discharge of the weapon. Paragraph 167.31(2)(c) prohibits the discharge of a weapon from in or on a vehicle. Paragraph 167.31(2)(d) prohibits the discharge of a weapon across a highway or 50 feet from the center line of a roadway. Those two paragraphs, alone or together, provide all the restriction needed and evidence for conviction of a violation to 167.31. If a person is prohibited from shooting a firearm from within or on a vehicle, especially across or within 50 feet of a roadway centerline, and those actions provide enough evidence for conviction, then the requirement that the weapon be encased is moot.
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skamp
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Posted: Tue Apr 28th, 2009 06:08 pm |
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Donated! i also printed out the petition.. and make a link to put on our club newsletter.. should be going out next week
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Flipper
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Posted: Tue Apr 28th, 2009 08:35 pm |
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Donated.
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lockman
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Posted: Tue Apr 28th, 2009 11:11 pm |
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| Why can't a non resident sign the petition? I have OC'ed in WI on many vacations over the years and have property, but am not a resident.
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Airforce1
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 09:56 am |
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Oops, signed it without reading the residents only.
Last edited on Wed Apr 29th, 2009 09:57 am by Airforce1
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Mike
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 12:22 pm |
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115 Total Signatures!
Not bad for the first 24 hours - now let's get all your frinedsl and family in Wisconsin signed up and post around state to every blog and web site you can find and on other national gunboards - we need to drive this puppy toward and over 1,000 signatures ASAP before the next press cycle.
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lockman
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 08:40 pm |
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| Since this petition would not have legally binding results, why the restriction to WI residents? All property owners in WI and vistitors are affected by the current restrictions.
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skamp
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 08:45 pm |
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the reason for residents only is that the representatives are supposed to "listen" to the people they represent... having a million signatures on something but only 3 from constituents will not mean anything to them.. they will see 3 signatures that matter.
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lockman
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 11:07 pm |
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| In other words as a property owner in WI, TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!
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ayce2
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Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2009 12:50 am |
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| signed a forwarded to friends
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skamp
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Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2009 01:52 pm |
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as a property owner you would be considered a resident of WI.
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Doug Huffman
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Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2009 02:57 pm |
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skamp wrote: as a property owner you would be considered a resident of WI. No. That is not true. The minimum requirement is ten days residence regardless of any ownership. http://www.legis.state.wi.us/statutes/Stat0006.pdf
Would that property ownership be required for enfranchisement.
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