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bnhcomputing
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 01:34 am |
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J.Gleason wrote: Enough said.
With that in mind I will agree with you on one thing.
As these picnic are held, there should be raffles or whatever to raise money. This money should be put into a fund for defense or other purposes to support the cause and not the Wisconsin badger team. I am not trying to be harsh here and I do realize that the gentleman who organized the picnic in the La Crosse area has spent a lot of money out of pocket, therefore he can donate any proceeds to whom ever he chooses. I am just saying that in the future a defense fund would definitely be an option in my mind.
Any thoughts anyone?
My thinking is that we should be trying to do something that isn't so "self-serving."
If we can show open carriers donating/raising money for "challenged" kids instead of their own "legal fund" interests, it shows that we are helping the community as a whole, not just those who carry.
Just like the "adopt-a-highway" idea. We are giving to the community, not one another. I think a legal fund would be great, and I will support that as well, but giving back to the community shines a very positive light on us.
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Lurchiron
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 02:25 am |
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hugh jarmis
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 02:44 am |
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Open carried at Home Depot in West Allis again today Hwy 100 and National. Once again, no unusual experiences inside the store.
Did have one fellow pull up next to me as I was loading cement into my truck and ask "what kind of gun is that" and mentioned that he was glad to hear about the clarification from the Attorney General.
Also open carried at Pick N Save on Hwy 100 and Cleveland again today. Uneventful as expected except for the cashier who cheefully made the comment that "You are the first person I've seen exercising their right since the new law".
I thought about correcting him that it wasn't a "new law" but just a clarification but didn't want to confuse him. I just said "well hopefully not the last!" wished him a good afternoon.
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hugh jarmis
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 03:07 am |
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oops forgot one. I open carried at Lincoln Contractor Supply in West Allis also.
uneventful for the most part, one of the techs in the garage asked me "are you a cop" when I was loading some equipment into my truck. I said "no, just open carrying" he said "ah, thats what I thought" He made a brief comment about having been thinking about open carrying himself and asked about the 'school zone issue' I explained it to him and suggested he visit the forum for more info.
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gila
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 03:37 pm |
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| Well we've had a bunch of more dog walks and yard work with no issues. I've had the usual discussions with my neighbors about the usual stuff, while armed, with zero problems. So far, this has all been a non-event. That doesn't mean that sometime someone won't get their knickers in a twist, but for now..
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J.Gleason
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 04:06 pm |
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bnhcomputing wrote: J.Gleason wrote: Enough said.
With that in mind I will agree with you on one thing.
As these picnic are held, there should be raffles or whatever to raise money. This money should be put into a fund for defense or other purposes to support the cause and not the Wisconsin badger team. I am not trying to be harsh here and I do realize that the gentleman who organized the picnic in the La Crosse area has spent a lot of money out of pocket, therefore he can donate any proceeds to whom ever he chooses. I am just saying that in the future a defense fund would definitely be an option in my mind.
Any thoughts anyone?
My thinking is that we should be trying to do something that isn't so "self-serving."
If we can show open carriers donating/raising money for "challenged" kids instead of their own "legal fund" interests, it shows that we are helping the community as a whole, not just those who carry.
Just like the "adopt-a-highway" idea. We are giving to the community, not one another. I think a legal fund would be great, and I will support that as well, but giving back to the community shines a very positive light on us.
You have a great point. When it comes to this issue there is definitely a lot to consider. Maybe donations could be split so all the bases are covered.
Either way I am all for community interaction.
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BJA
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 04:17 pm |
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Well since I couldn't make it to the open carry meet up I decided I wanted to try and open carry at the pickn'save in cudahy were I was getting some soda before starting to work. I've been going there all my life and just rode around the plaza once to make sure nothing was ary. (a rye however you spell it) A new business bought a section of the plaze it's called head start, it's a school....... But I am guessing it's for those before kindergarten, yet I didn't know for sure so I didn't take the risk. I went into the pickn'save on packard with my holster and my mag pouch with a full magazine in it. Wish I could of brought the gun along but it's better to be on the safe side. Inside the store was business as usual.
I talked to the Cudahy police the other night and had a good conversation. The officer said they would be investigating the calls since not many people carry guns around, at least openly. I responded well me and others hope to change that! lol
Ben
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hugh jarmis
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 04:51 am |
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Ben... Just do it! 
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hugh jarmis
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 05:31 am |
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Had the distinct honor of coming across 4 free men today while I was boating on the Milwaukee river.
There is a pleasant comfort in being in the company of men who enjoy their freedoms as much as I do.
Gentlemen, it was great to see you all today!
Carry On!
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hugh jarmis
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Posted: Mon May 18th, 2009 03:00 am |
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Open carried at West Marine in Greenfield today. Only the manager and one other customer were in the store. Went to southridge and intended to open carry there. Decided to look for "rules" posted first and sure enough. Went in the Boston Store entrance and there is a LITTLE 8.5 x 11 "rules of conduct for Boston Store" notice posted in the vestibule. You'd NEVER see it if you weren't looking for it, and it said "no firearms or weapons" amongs a bunch of other rules.
So needless to say I will never spend another penny in Boston Store. I didn't have a chance due to time to check the mall entrances to see if they had anything posted there, but I suspect its the same thing. I'm going to try to never spend another penny in southridge, but that might be difficult considering some specialty stores. Boston Store will be easy to avoid. I can go to Kohls and get anything Boston Store sells. Southridge will now be my last resort for anything else.
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Max
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Posted: Mon May 18th, 2009 06:06 am |
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Great photo guys.
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Mike
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Posted: Mon May 18th, 2009 12:44 pm |
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hugh jarmis wrote: Open carried at West Marine in Greenfield today. Only the manager and one other customer were in the store. Went to southridge and intended to open carry there. Decided to look for "rules" posted first and sure enough. Went in the Boston Store entrance and there is a LITTLE 8.5 x 11 "rules of conduct for Boston Store" notice posted in the vestibule. You'd NEVER see it if you weren't looking for it, and it said "no firearms or weapons" amongs a bunch of other rules.
I think looking for rules posted is not necessary - if they are not conspicuous, then they are probably not serious about it. But I agree if an extrablishement does post there is no reason to go there anyway and spend money even of the rules don't carry any real force of law.
One comment on malls though - because the "mall" people (e.g., mall ninjas and the people who employ them who are far away agents form lifeless corporate owners) have no financial stake in what you sepnd there or your returning, they tend to react against open carry far more than any store manager - so much so i actually tend to lean toward advsing concealed carry in malls as it is just not worth the hassle - but then again, In Wisconsin, there is no option to conceal.
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hugh jarmis
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Posted: Mon May 18th, 2009 03:33 pm |
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One comment on malls though - because the "mall" people (e.g., mall ninjas and the people who employ them who are far away agents form lifeless corporate owners) have no financial stake in what you sepnd there or your returning, they tend to react against open carry far more than any store manager - so much so i actually tend to lean toward advsing concealed carry in malls as it is just not worth the hassle - but then again, In Wisconsin, there is no option to conceal.
That was the deal for me today. I wasn't worried at all about being arrested. But because I was going to a sunglass vendor in the mall that was in a center court Kiosk RIGHT next to mall "security" I was in a hurry, had to get in and out quick for dinner at the gf's.
I didn't want to spend 45 minutes dealing with the hassle.
On some levels I think it probably be a good idea to open carry in malls that prohibit firearms but don't have visible obvious signage. To get them to post noticeable signs that firearms are not welcome would allow everyone to know that these stores doesn't support law abiding citizens.
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Sajuuk
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Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 07:40 pm |
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First off, I appreciate everyone's efforts. I'm a closet gun-owner looking to get out there. I wondered about something, though. Do you guys just pull into store parking lots, uncase the gun from the trunk and holster it there? Then walk towards the store? Parking lots are clear from school zone probs? I'm so concerned about schools because they're EVERYWHERE according to that map.
I had considered going to the movies this weekend, but the Southgate theater is right by Pulaski HS and a parochial school. I emailed Marcus Theaters, the reply from Guest Relations was "We follow each Community or State's individual firearms laws and regulations." Okay, so I'm good to go in the building, but what about the parking lot? It's connected to Walmart's and Walgreen's. Does that make it public? Or is it still private and part of the theater?
Just looking to see what's up before I go out and get put on the ground by MPD.
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eleuthera
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Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 08:00 pm |
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Parking lots, unless there's a meter on them, are almost always private. This excepts them from the school zone law.
As for your gun question, I have a paddle holster that I keep the gun in. I keep the whole rig in a zipped bag in my trunk, so when I get out of my car, I just slide the rig on and load the gun, without ever having the gun in my hand. Just reduces unnecessary handling of a loaded gun IMHO.
Although you would be legal to have a holster on, and put the gun directly into the holster from the trunk.
Sounds like you're absolutely clear to carry the gun into the theatre!
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Mike
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Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 08:12 pm |
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hugh jarmis wrote: On some levels I think it probably be a good idea to open carry in malls that prohibit firearms but don't have visible obvious signage. To get them to post noticeable signs that firearms are not welcome would allow everyone to know that these stores doesn't support law abiding citizens.
Um no, we do not want them to post - don;t ask for it by words certainly - if they all start posting, when the time comes to get a concealed carry statute comes, the commecial lobby will get a force of law provision re signage into the statute - bad bad ju ju. if you write this, they will come . . .
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hugh jarmis
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Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 08:18 pm |
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Yeah, once I'm in the parking lot I'm golden. Assuming its not a city owned parking structure or something.
But for example I OC at the pick n save in west allis that is WELL within the boundary of Nathan Hale Highschool's 1000 ft zone, but its private property.
I pull up, (I have a truck, 4 door crew cab) so I keep the gun in the back, open the back door, uncase, load up, click it in the holster, all while kinda turned so my gun-hip is to the inside of the vehicle so no one notices, then on my way.
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Mike
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Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 09:55 pm |
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hugh jarmis wrote: Yeah, once I'm in the parking lot I'm golden. Assuming its not a city owned parking structure or something.
But for example I OC at the pick n save in west allis that is WELL within the boundary of Nathan Hale Highschool's 1000 ft zone, but its private property.
I pull up, (I have a truck, 4 door crew cab) so I keep the gun in the back, open the back door, uncase, load up, click it in the holster, all while kinda turned so my gun-hip is to the inside of the vehicle so no one notices, then on my way.
Yeah, I think you are correct - just saty off the public sidewalks 
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Shotgun
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 12:10 am |
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eleuthera wrote: Parking lots, unless there's a meter on them, are almost always private. This excepts them from the school zone law.
As for your gun question, I have a paddle holster that I keep the gun in. I keep the whole rig in a zipped bag in my trunk, so when I get out of my car, I just slide the rig on and load the gun, without ever having the gun in my hand. Just reduces unnecessary handling of a loaded gun IMHO.
Although you would be legal to have a holster on, and put the gun directly into the holster from the trunk.
Sounds like you're absolutely clear to carry the gun into the theatre!
You don't chamber a round?
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Pointman
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 02:00 am |
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| Yup, just load up in the lot and let the slide fly. For me it's actually unnerving because it would make me nervous if I was in the car next to a guy doing that, but that's what's required. There is no requirement to keep the weapon in the trunk, so I don't. School zones don't apply to private property that's not owned by the school.
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