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J.Gleason
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 09:57 pm |
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| http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts
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Master Doug Huffman
Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 10:03 pm |
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| http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum51/33733.html
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J.Gleason
Campaign Veteran
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 10:23 pm |
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Master Doug Huffman wrote: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum51/33733.html Thanks Doug, I missed the earlier post.
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Master Doug Huffman
Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 10:32 pm |
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No sweat. It was just a cheap addition to my post count. Thanks for snitting on the troll.
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Lammie
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| Joined: | Sun Feb 18th, 2007 |
| Location: | Wisconsin USA |
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 11:00 pm |
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| Guns are bad!!! Soldiers should not be allowed to have guns.
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J.Gleason
Campaign Veteran
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 11:07 pm |
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Lammie wrote: Guns are bad!!! Soldiers should not be allowed to have guns. Apparently not ones that have recently converted to Islam <Sarcasm.
I think we will start seeing more and more of this as long as we keep sending troops to fight "Wars" for countries that don't even like us, but only want our money.
So much for the value of the U.S. Dollar dropping, apparently it is very valuable to the middle eastern countries.
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Master Doug Huffman
Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 11:34 pm |
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J.Gleason wrote: So much for the value of the U.S. Dollar dropping, apparently it is very valuable to the middle eastern countries. Uhh, ya lost me with that. My estimation of the value of the dollar; we, I, don't see the capital value of the nation changing significantly but still the market averages, in dollars rise. An increase in dollar cost without a increase in value suggests, to me, a decrease in the value of a dollar.
Or look at the record high price of gold. If it gets much worse then I'll take the penalties that have prevented me from liquidating some significant investments and move into gold while I can, while my dollars are worth something.
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J.Gleason
Campaign Veteran
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 11:37 pm |
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I guess my point was they don't like us but they sure like our money.
The shame of it is, if some bystander had been armed maybe they could have stopped this guy before it got as far as it did.
Just goes to show you never know where it will happen.
Last edited on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 11:38 pm by J.Gleason
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Interceptor_Knight
Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 12:18 am |
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Unfortunately, military bases actually facilitate crimes like this. Using the excuse of safety, weapons are prohibited to be carried for "normal" self defense. When I was in, the only time we were alowed to have live rounds was at the range or at the actual guard point. We had to turn in the rounds and were accountable for each and every one at the end of our shift. No personal weapons in the barracks and they had to be stored in the armory. There were times I was on guard duty with my M16 but no round, just an empty magazine inserted in the mag well for appearances.
Once my wife and I got base housing, I always had a loaded weapon in my quarters and she had her own.
Last edited on Fri Nov 6th, 2009 12:20 am by Interceptor_Knight
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Shotgun
Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 02:29 am |
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IMO, soldiers on duty during wartime ought to be armed at all times regardless of location. Particularly in a war with no FEBA.
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gollbladder13
Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 12:06 pm |
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J.Gleason wrote:
So much for the value of the U.S. Dollar dropping, apparently it is very valuable to the middle eastern countries.
Um,
I fail to see a connection with the shooting here.
Hasan was born and raised in Virginia...
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J.Gleason
Campaign Veteran
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 12:54 pm |
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gollbladder13 wrote: J.Gleason wrote:
So much for the value of the U.S. Dollar dropping, apparently it is very valuable to the middle eastern countries.
Um,
I fail to see a connection with the shooting here.
Hasan was born and raised in Virginia...
Was Islam born and raised in Virginia?
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J.Gleason
Campaign Veteran
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 01:34 pm |
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I'd like to know how the media gets away with such drastic changes in the story with out any criticism.
First, there were 3 shooters, then it was 1 shooter and 2 accomplices in custody. Then they reported the shooter was dead.
Then they said the two people who were suspected as accomplices were released.
Now they say the shooter is still alive.
It is not terrorism (the medias words). How can some one walking into a building full of people and open firing not be considered terrorism?
I heard this morning that a woman who was considered a first responder, was in fact armed and the shots fired by this woman did in fact help to end this ordeal.
I bet this is a bad flash back for Susanna Hupp.
The fact is even the people of Texas have still not learned that these incidents can happen anywhere. It is always best to plan ahead and be prepared and that means exercise your rights to self defense. The problem is the sheeple of this country have grown to fat and lazy and want everyone else to do the dirty work for them.
A perfect example of why people should carry for self defense.
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Glock34
Campaign Veteran
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 02:56 pm |
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I am still thinking that , the shooter, was an inbedded single man sleeper cell. It just smells way too fishy for me.
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gollbladder13
Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 03:55 pm |
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J.Gleason wrote: gollbladder13 wrote: J.Gleason wrote:
So much for the value of the U.S. Dollar dropping, apparently it is very valuable to the middle eastern countries.
Um,
I fail to see a connection with the shooting here.
Hasan was born and raised in Virginia...
Was Islam born and raised in Virginia?
Nope, but thanks to the 1st Amendment, it doesn't matter where Islam was born and raised. It can still be practiced here without persecution...
ETA: So since he was Islam and was involved in a mass shooting, Middle Eastern countries are getting cash from the US for it? How are those countries getting money out of the US? We're not buying their war technology. We're not sponsoring their armies. I guess that point is lost on me, but I'll just remain confused so we don't overtake the thread.
Last edited on Fri Nov 6th, 2009 04:05 pm by gollbladder13
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Master Doug Huffman
Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 04:03 pm |
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gollbladder13 wrote: Nope, but thanks to the 1st Amendment, it doesn't matter where Islam was born and raised. It can still be practiced here without persecution. Begs the question, modus ponens, what is the practice of Islam? Actions, conflict, speaks louder than words. Conflict like the 1090 through 1300 Crusades.
Radio reports at 1100 CST have Army bases going to elevated alert. Bye
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GlocksRfun
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| Joined: | Thu May 28th, 2009 |
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 04:39 pm |
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| If being deployed to a war zone is your "worse case senario", you probably shouldn't join the military.
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J.Gleason
Campaign Veteran
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 04:55 pm |
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Master Doug Huffman wrote: gollbladder13 wrote: Nope, but thanks to the 1st Amendment, it doesn't matter where Islam was born and raised. It can still be practiced here without persecution. Begs the question, modus ponens, what is the practice of Islam? Actions, conflict, speaks louder than words. Conflict like the 1090 through 1300 Crusades.
Radio reports at 1100 CST have Army bases going to elevated alert. Bye
Yes, it is to bad that so many are blind to the fact there are many Islamic s here in this country that are merely sleeping. when they wake up, innocent people die.
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J.Gleason
Campaign Veteran
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 05:04 pm |
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gollbladder13 wrote: J.Gleason wrote: gollbladder13 wrote: J.Gleason wrote:
So much for the value of the U.S. Dollar dropping, apparently it is very valuable to the middle eastern countries.
Um,
I fail to see a connection with the shooting here.
Hasan was born and raised in Virginia...
Was Islam born and raised in Virginia?
Nope, but thanks to the 1st Amendment, it doesn't matter where Islam was born and raised. It can still be practiced here without persecution...
ETA: So since he was Islam and was involved in a mass shooting, Middle Eastern countries are getting cash from the US for it? How are those countries getting money out of the US? We're not buying their war technology. We're not sponsoring their armies. I guess that point is lost on me, but I'll just remain confused so we don't overtake the thread.
This is totally not what I said, and you are simply trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
How are these countries getting money out of the U.S? Are you kidding me?
Do you live in an underground bunker with no contact to the outside world?
Hmm, Countries that get money from the U.S.,
Pakistan
Afghanistan
India
Iraq
Kuwait
and the list goes on and on. From the middle east to South Africa. Mostly all Islamic countries. we don't have to buy anything from them. We just give them money.
As far as sponsoring their armies, oh hell yeah, I can vouch for that personally. We train their armies and provide them with weapons.
They love our money, they just hate us.
Think sleeper cell.
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Nutczak
Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 05:22 pm |
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gollbladder13 wrote: How are those countries getting money out of the US? We're not buying their war technology. We're not sponsoring their armies. I guess that point is lost on me, but I'll just remain confused so we don't overtake the thread.
Seriously GB13? it is DRUGS!!!
The highest quality, most potent hashish and opiate derivatives come from those middle eastern countries. It is a multi-billion dollar industry.
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