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Passive... yeah. (Why didn't I think of that word...  )
OC: Active / CC: Passive (Yay!) 
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Posted: Wed Feb 25th, 2009 06:04 am |
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fullauto223cal wrote: I don't have the time to review this board as often as I like. Thanks for fighting the good fight in my absence. I somehow think that he is a drive-by poster and probably doesn't have the balls or the intellect to debate the issue any further.
No Balls or intellect??? Oh.... I'm SO hurt...
You sir (and I use that term VERY lightly) are obviously just a big nonsensical buffoon, as evidently you are PROUD of by your avatar....
I thought I have been fairly "cordial" here.. Moderator... You warn me to be civil on other posts and allow this???
Full Auto 223? What's the matter? Can't you shoot well either that you need a bullet hose to hit your target???
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I happen to enjoy carrying my gun openly in a holster. Just because BMG wants his gun in his purse doesn't mean the rest of us have to swing that way.
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fullauto223cal wrote: 50BMG - "Then, when you have been neutralized with a bullet in the back of your head, your sidearm will then be taken by said felon to cause even further harm at that scene AND on the streets later on."
Please cite one example of this scenario taking place, then your statement will hold merit enough to debate. So far, in the states that allow open carry, no news story can be found where the scenario you outline has occurred. Please reread my risk vs. reward section.
My reply: I read what you wrote 100%.. So, YOUR "conjecture" is more valid than mine huh? YOU SHOW ME where your open carry hase done ANYTHING but; 1). pi$$-off the surrounding non-gun types (who will push for legislation against you AND me at one point or another); or 2).Had the already busy/understaffed police called to reprimand your arrongant a$$ for "making a point" by carrying openly...! Come on... SHOW ME!!!!!
Whereas a felon, who is SURPRISED by a concealed carrier during the commission of his/her crime has no time to think about a course of action posed by the immediate threat.
Let me get this right. You advising that should I be the primary target of an armed robbery i.e. gun pointed at my chest with the bad guys finger on trigger, I am better off to "SURPRISE" him with my concealed weapon? I don't think after some real reflection on what you have just claimed you could advise such a risky, dare I say suicidal action. No, I believe what I said in my paper, that the attacker will always have the element of surprise. I say the possibility that I may have to defend myself one on one are far more likely than in a group setting. It is for this reason that I will let the attacker know that there is great "RISK" of death or grievous bodily injury before he decides to make me a victim.
My reply: Hellloooo!! McFly!!!!! The robber/felon won't waste time pointing a gun at your chest... He's gonna see you armed, want your gun, suprise you with a bullet to the back of YOUR head, and THEN rob/shoot-up the place... My point was that even an armed robber usually doesn't pay attention to "bystanders" UNLESS they represent a threat... In doing this "ignoring innocent bystanders", the felon gives the concealed carrier the tactical advantage of being able to chose the safest/best moment of interdiction in the situation.. You're already dead so great help you were.... Also, your open carry will give a felon who wants your gun IDEAS! Even in a grocery store... You carrying openly makes YOU a target, like it or not it IS true... They will find a moment when you least expect it and pounce like a "predator" from behind (there is no such thing as a "fair" gunfight on the streets you know?) One on one like you say, but the moment of the fight is the FELON'S choice, not yours!!!. BAM! Bullet to the back of your head.... Again, my "conjecture" is just as valid as yours... YOU "prove your theory"!!! Show me!
Have you ever thought that Open Carry may acually help to INCITE violent behavior???
Actually yes, but my conclusion was that criminals are nothing more than predators. Predators do not often attack the strongest, fastest, or smartest when there are so many helpless targets. The exception being where the reward for attacking the strongest outweighs the risk, like trying to escape from police.
My Reply: attack the strongest, fastest or smartest!?! MAN! You ARE quite a man aren't you!?! LoL... How about attacking the most "arrogent" or "over-confident" person who fails to see that he has made his manly-self a HUGE target by carrying a probably fairly EXPENSIVE sidearm in the full view of the public and any THUG that happens by him that day??? Again, IF they want your gun, in your one on one secnario, THEY choose the moment of attack, NOT you! Predators SURVIVE by using EVERY advantage, dirty trick, CHEAT, or SURPRISE that they can!!! This is one HUGE oversight on your part, and thus is your greatest weakness.... I don't think you thought your conclusion out 100% have you?
When was the last time you walked around with a $1000 bill on your hip (which is what some good-quality handguns cost nowadays)? Do you think the fact that the $1000 bill is shaped like a gun means ANYTHING to a determined, and equally underhanded Felon??? It's that simple....
Your argument is simple but flawed in that you compare two things of the same value while omitting their capabilities. The proverbial apples vs. oranges. To answer your question. If the $1000 bill were simply shaped like a gun...no. But if the $1000 bill were actually a gun and actually capable of killing me...yes it would mean a great deal!
My Reply: That gun on your hip is ZERO threat when YOU ARE DEAD! Get it now??? To a murderous "Predator" it's just part of the reward of the kill... And a nice, shiney expensive one that he gets to use to kill others!!! See above for the scenarios that unwravel your conclusions.... The PREDATOR chooses the time and place of the attack... YOU are the victim, and you know it when you are laying there gushing blood like a loose fire-hose.....
50BMG I actually covered folks like yourself in my paper. It was in the latter portion so if you did not get that far don't beat yourself up, I did not expect you to.
Why do you disagree with open carry, "I believe it to be fear; the anxiety of having to confront someone hostile to their choice to carry a weapon for personal defense." You refuse to even consider the benefits of open carry because you rue the possibility it may be advantageous. If it is advantageous then the only reason you don't do it is out of fear of others and your not afraid of anything are you?
If you don't like open carry then DON'T OPEN CARRY. Sit back and wait for that fateful day when see the news clip of the criminal telling the media "He had a gun so I figured I had to shoot him."
The difference between people like you and people like me is simple. I advocate OPEN CARRY as a choice. You advocate CONCEALED CARRY as the ONLY CHOICE. My Reply: Full Auto, you have NO IDEA about what kind of man I am (I ain't no "folk" Jethro!) and I GUARANTEE that you have never written about anyone like me, EVER! To the contrary of what you "think" (again, untested-unproven!), I fear NO MAN, whether I happen to be armed or not!!! I have fighting experience as well as I also wrestled in school. I hold a BS from Michigan State University and I own my own corporation that does about $4 million/year in sales.... I have been shooting a gun since before I had pubic hair, and I am not described as a "small" guy either... I have been carrying a gun when I needed to since BEFORE my state became shall issue, because I live by the philosophy that "I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6"! I am a competitive .50BMG match shooter (see my avatar), Service Rifle shooter, hunter of many animals (deer/duck/etc...) and I own about $80,000 worth of firearms of all shapes, calibers, and functions (not kidding either!). I have written many gun-related articles that have been printed in nationally distributed firearm's magazines... I DO support open carry, I AM 100% a 2nd Amendment supporter, but I believe in Open Carry ONLY when no other means of legal carry are an option, for ALL the very valid and 100% possible points that I bring up here and in my other postings... Besides your "balls-buffoonery" above, you DO seem to be 1/2 way smart, but I have shown you MANY holes in your equally "untested" theories... For a supposedly smart guy, you really lack foresight and you seriously underestimate the evil and simplicity of ALL the scenarios that I have laid out here and elsewhere... Your "manly/toughguy" attitude will be your downfall, and if not you, it will be one of the even "more manly/cop wannabees" that this site seems to be loaded with.. You see, the problem is, that when my "theories" begin to come true, your OC idiocy will affect MY RIGHTS... Oh yea... That guy you are waiting to be interviewed to say "He had a gun so I figured I had to shoot him." Do you REALLY think that guy is going to be caught?!? NO! Who's going to identify him??? He's gonna fire one shot, you'll be dead, and he's gonna take your gun and run away! This will ALL be done when/where HE chooses... You will be his BITCH, toughguy..... You think your open gun will keep you safe? Ever heard of houses getting broken into so that the GUNS can be taken? That shoots another hole in your OC theory!!! Hey, you think my theories are impossible or outlandish??? Who would have thought that sickos would find kids under 5, even their OWN kids, to be sexually attractive and want to rape them, but they DO! Who would ever think that a mother could ever throw her child into a microwave oven and COOK IT TO DEATH for crying too much, but it has happened!!! HOW can you sit back and tell me that what I am thinking is any LESS valid because YOU haven't seen it on the evening news!!! WHO is the person that isn't thiking things out 100% here?!? (Clue: It ISN'T ME!)... This ludacris "point" that all of you vehement OCers seem to feel the need to make is 100% beyond my comprehension.... AGAIN, I SUPPORT OC WHEN YOU "HAVE TO", but otherwise you are seriously underestimating how ugly things can get for YOU AND ME!!! and I don't need any of your "need to make a point" when it comes to the defense of me OR my family!!! THANK YOU! arrogant, soon to be DEAD OCers who will get MY rights stripped
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Posted: Wed Feb 25th, 2009 07:56 am |
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Holy CRAP, I really pissed this guy off. So much RED letter type I don't know if I'm reading BMG50's reply or he's quoting the NEW TESTAMENT.
Settle down a second BMG50. I'd forgotten about the previous "balls" comment but I humbly retract my remarks concerning you being a "drive-by poster." You obviously have the wear-with-all to defend your position and I respect a man who does that. I hate it when people spew bull-@#$% and run away.
I'll be the first to admit that Open Carry does piss off the surrounding non-gun types. Woman's suffrage pissed of the "no-women voting" types. De-segregation pissed off the "no blacks in my school" types. And no, they will not succeed in passing legislation against you and me. The stats truly are on our side regarding armed citizens period, open or concealed. As far as the COPS, I am one. It has been well known by Tennessee LEO's that open carry is legal all be it still rare. Yes, some cops don't like it but we don't make the law. Unless your acting like a criminal most folks just assume your a cop anyways. To be honest, I haven't open carried off duty since I became an officer as it's forbidden in our general orders, although some senior guys do it anyways and can get away with it.
GREAT BACK TO THE FUTURE REFERENCE, I love that movie!!!
About your reply, I'm not trying to dog you but you really just restated your original arguement; although in bigger and bolder type. You stated that your "conjecture" is as equal as mine. You ask me to prove my case. One cannot provide evidence for something which does not leave evidence. If a criminal decides NOT to attack someone who is open carrying then nobody but the criminal will know it.
I must therefor make my case from logic. Take a given senerio where one of two things must occur i.e. A OR B must be TRUE. If (A) is true then (B) is false and viceversa.
A = Criminal kills Person and takes gun. (LEAVES A DEAD BODY)
B = Criminal sees gun and does not kill Person. (LEAVES NOTHING)
I asked you to provide evidence of your view because inorder for your view (A) to be correct there must be, somewhere, evidence of dead bodies with empty holsters.
As my search of late had yeilded NO dead bodies with empty holsters then I submit that (B) must be true.
You also imply that I and the others on this board are arrogant & over-confident after spinning my prey vs. predator analogy. You stringently argue that simply carrying a weapon makes you a target but again you provide no evidence to the point. Yes, criminals are low down dirty rotten tricksters. Yes, as I have made plain in my posts, the criminal chooses the moment of attack. It for that reason that OPEN CARRY serves it's purpose, to discourage criminals. If the criminal simply wanted a gun he could break into a home and steal one. Why would he risk taking it from someone who could use it against him? Yes, I have thought my conclusion through thoroughly and the way in which I reached it has been outlined above.
As you say, a gun on a dead body is zero threat. Well, what if I have two or three of my buddies with me. Or better yet, what if we lived in a world where everyone that carried a gun had to carry it openly because only criminals conceal their weapons. What if, what if, what if, we can play the what if game till the cows come home but it doesn't change is one very simple question. Where are all the dead bodies with empty holsters???
First, I'm from the south and I sometimes call groups of people "folks" as a means of describing good down home citizens. It does not imply "Jethro", hick or redneck as you assume. So your rich, own a lot of guns, and shoot the best that money can buy, and your opinions are so well respected that they are published in national magazines. I envy you friend, you epitomize what it means to be American. You also provide ammo against the bias view that all gun owners are hay-seed hick racists. KUDOS!! All that being true it it does not guarantee that you will always be right.
As far as my avatar, it's a drawing of Brock Samson from a show called the Venture Brothers. You should look it up, its kinda funny. I'm a fan and I thought it looked cool with the Glock logo on his shirt (which you can't see at that size). His attitude in the show is that of a bad ass but it's the farthest thing from mine.
"You think your open gun will keep you safe? Ever heard of houses getting broken into so that the GUNS can be taken? That shoots another hole in your OC theory!!!" I don't quite get it, how does robbing an empty house compare to OPEN CARRY keeping me safe? I do know this, when prisoners were asked what they considered the most risky kind of crime to commit they overwhelming said robbing a home while the home owner was there. I don't mean to "shoot a hole" in your argument but if I apply your reasoning to a home owner who keep a gun loaded then would he be an [ "arrogant" "over-confident" person who fails to see that he has made his manly-self a HUGE target] because as you claim the criminal picks when he attacks and he can just sneak in when they are asleep and shoot them in the head, take their shiny gun, make them his bitch, with blood splurting everywhere etc. etc. etc.
HOW can you sit back and tell me that what I am thinking is any LESS valid because YOU haven't seen it on the evening news!!! I'm not saying I haven't seen it on the evening news, I'm saying I havn't seen it ANYWHERE!!! It's like you telling me that BIG FOOT is @#$%ing real and simply because I havn't found his dead corpse is no reason to challenge you.
If you wanna keep up the debate I'm game.
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Big Gay Al
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Posted: Wed Feb 25th, 2009 09:17 am |
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fullauto223cal wrote: Holy CRAP, I really pissed this guy off. So much RED letter type I don't know if I'm reading BMG50's reply or he's quoting the NEW TESTAMENT.
Yeah, and he still doesn't know how to keep his comments OUT of the quoted text. 
Oh, and of course, he still hasn't come up with ONE example of an OCer, (not a uniformed LEO/Security guard) who's been attacked like he describes. 
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Dustin
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Posted: Wed Feb 25th, 2009 01:43 pm |
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50BMG wrote: He's gonna see you armed, want your gun, suprise you with a bullet to the back of YOUR head, and THEN rob/shoot-up the place... My point was that even an armed robber usually doesn't pay attention to "bystanders" UNLESS they represent a threat... In doing this "ignoring innocent bystanders", the felon gives the concealed carrier the tactical advantage of being able to chose the safest/best moment of interdiction in the situation.. You're already dead so great help you were.... Also, your open carry will give a felon who wants your gun IDEAS! Even in a grocery store... You carrying openly makes YOU a target, like it or not it IS true... They will find a moment when you least expect it and pounce like a "predator" from behind (there is no such thing as a "fair" gunfight on the streets you know?) One on one like you say, but the moment of the fight is the FELON'S choice, not yours!!!. BAM! Bullet to the back of your head....
I think it's only fair that if your going to use that claim, that you back it up with some kind of statistical truth. Something that will make it valid. Just saying it, doesn't help convince those who don't drink the Koolaid.
Would it also be a correct assesment to say that if you saw BG's walking in with guns, that you would take cover and wait for the right moment to fire ?
I think your also viewing OC'ers like the main stream media does.
Personaly I make it a point in resturants to sit with my strong side to the wall.
The majority DOES NOT look like this guy,
We look more like these images,
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Big Gay Al
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Posted: Wed Feb 25th, 2009 02:12 pm |
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Dustin wrote:
I think it's only fair that if your going to use that claim, that you back it up with some kind of statistical truth. Something that will make it valid. Just saying it, doesn't help convince those who don't drink the Koolaid.
Would it also be a correct assesment to say that if you saw BG's walking in with guns, that you would take cover and wait for the right moment to fire ?
I think your also viewing OC'ers like the main stream media does.
Personaly I make it a point in resturants to sit with my strong side to the wall.
The majority DOES NOT look like this guy,
I dunno, I sort of like the cowboy hat look.  But I think I'm gonna go more for the Hawaiian shirt and straw hat look, similar to what I saw in "The Bird Cage" with Robin Williams.
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Wed Feb 25th, 2009 06:00 pm |
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Methinks 50BMG should switch to DeCaf. 'Wired Waaayyyyyyyyy to tight! Paranoid to the max for some reason. These fantasy scenarios must be a result of too much imaginative creative writing.... 'self defense' videos... or he's livin' in 'Metropolis' with the Joker's henchmen runnin' around. City livin' will do that to ya I think...
I dunno... certain life experiences will color perceptions and expectations. There's no guarantee (expressed or implied). You just do the best ya can with what ya got. When I was a cop... (in the 'hood) bein' a target is a given. When I was in 'Nam (twice)... same deal. 'Also worked the flight deck (at night) for years... where things can go wrong from a variety of sources, especially when playin' with ordnance. I've been a competition drag racer as well.
There's a lotta situations that'll get you whacked. If I mulled over all that enuff I'd prob'ly hide under the bed... (as would we all). No fun in that. I OC 'cause I can get at it if I need it. I believe it lessens my need to 'get at it' just by it's being visible. I've seen or heard of no tangible event or reason to believe otherwise.
Well... all in all, this is OCDO... not CCDO.
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| I have read a few of the posts on here, but it would take me ages to read every comment that has been made. I am in full support of open carry, and I have already signed the petition for Texas, and actually I signed it a long time ago, and so has most of my family, and I encourage others to go to the site, and sign the petition as well. I believe that the benefits of open carry greatly outweigh the risks that most people are concerned about. There will always be those that just don't care, and will try to cause harm to someone even if they are open carrying, but most will think better of it, and go looking for an easier target. I believe that a woman should be ready, willing and able to defend herself and or her children by whatever means that are possible and/or necessary. Face it, most often, women are viewed as "easy targets" or "helpless" and that is one thing that really makes me mad. It's time to quit stereotyping, and generalizing. I for one, am not "helpless" or "defenseless", and I refuse to make myself an "easy target".......
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Big Gay Al
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Posted: Wed Mar 11th, 2009 11:20 pm |
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Dustin wrote: I think your also viewing OC'ers like the main stream media does.
Personaly I make it a point in resturants to sit with my strong side to the wall.
The majority DOES NOT look like this guy,
So, just for the hell of it, WHAT is wrong with the guy above? He looks clean cut.....mostly.
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Dustin
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Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2009 02:05 pm |
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Big Gay Al wrote: Dustin wrote: I think your also viewing OC'ers like the main stream media does.
Personaly I make it a point in resturants to sit with my strong side to the wall.
The majority DOES NOT look like this guy,
So, just for the hell of it, WHAT is wrong with the guy above? He looks clean cut.....mostly.
We'll IMO.
I think it is possible to OC (With Deterrant Value) yet remain Tactical too.
If I walked into a restaurant with this guy in there, I would IMMEDIATELY notice him. His choice of outfit draws attention. I don't like to draw attention.
Also Anti's see folks like this and automatically think, WILD WILD WEST !
Now I'm not one for pandering to the Anti's but wearing a .44 Mag Revolver does more than act as a Deterrant. IMO, it acts as an Attention Grabber.
I'd rather someone confuse me for an LEO, than harass me about why I'm carrying.
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Big Gay Al
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Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2009 02:19 pm |
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Dustin wrote:We'll IMO.
I think it is possible to OC (With Deterrant Value) yet remain Tactical too.
If I walked into a restaurant with this guy in there, I would IMMEDIATELY notice him. His choice of outfit draws attention. I don't like to draw attention.
Also Anti's see folks like this and automatically think, WILD WILD WEST !
Now I'm not one for pandering to the Anti's but wearing a .44 Mag Revolver does more than act as a Deterrant. IMO, it acts as an Attention Grabber.
I'd rather someone confuse me for an LEO, than harass me about why I'm carrying.
Well, everyone has their own style. And his gun could be a .45.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2009 02:23 pm |
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Big Gay Al wrote:
Well, everyone has their own style. And his gun could be a .45.
You get the point though. Looks more like "Test Me, and see if I can Draw this 10'' cannon" than it does "Don't screw with me, I'm armed and could be an LEO".
Although I hate the LEO similarity context, that's just the nature of today's society.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2009 04:07 pm |
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Some people carry their 10" barrels in holsters and others elsewhere 
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2009 04:28 pm |
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Big Gay Al wrote: Dustin wrote:We'll IMO.
I think it is possible to OC (With Deterrant Value) yet remain Tactical too.
If I walked into a restaurant with this guy in there, I would IMMEDIATELY notice him. His choice of outfit draws attention. I don't like to draw attention.
Also Anti's see folks like this and automatically think, WILD WILD WEST !
Now I'm not one for pandering to the Anti's but wearing a .44 Mag Revolver does more than act as a Deterrant. IMO, it acts as an Attention Grabber.
I'd rather someone confuse me for an LEO, than harass me about why I'm carrying.
Well, everyone has their own style. And his gun could be a .45.
"WILD WILD WEST!" ? Well... this IS the Wild Wild West (what's left of it) and I carry a .45acp. My 'choice of outfit' is normal everyday wear.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2009 04:46 pm |
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Lets see.....
Plaxico CC'd shot, DC starbucks employee CC'd shot. I could go on, and on.
Now lets hear where the OC person is shot. CC seems to invite danger
not the other way around.
Would you care to show how you OC without a holster?
But on the OC column, some pistols just cannot be CC'd due to size.
Heck it is why I bought it, first thought was there is no way to comply with
just hide it. Then made mistake of shooting it.
Now I'm making hoster to carry it. This is so liberating learning all these new skills.
If the government is so worried about OC being taken and used in a crime,
then why is it a crime for me to rig a pistol to explode in the face of the bad
guy if he takes it from me? It is simple enough to do, but then I am a criminal
because a bad guy blows his face off while committing a crime.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2009 04:57 pm |
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I'll just add in a couple of other thoughts for the paper..
Reason to CC:
I usually CC, and not so much out of fear as a desire to avoid the anxiety of having to stay at a high level of alert. A lot of posters in this thread have talked about the 'increased situational awareness' that comes with OC, and this is something I would rather avoid. CC means that nobody, good or bad, knows what the various lumps under the cover garment are and I don't have to worry about someone coming unglued in a crowded resturant when my gun brushes past their chair.
Reason to OC:
One reason that I didn't see explored too much is a direct result of OC. OC forces the LEO's and town fathers to abide by the letter of the law. As a nation, we seem to have strayed from the idea that the law is something that everybody is supposed to follow. Too many LEO's and town fathers (such as Dickson, PA.) have been doing whatever they want, however they want for far to long. I've noticed changes in attitutudes toward law and procedure in every state where OC is actively pursued. Look at Pennsylvania, Virginia and Georgia for good examples of this. Not only are 2nd amendment rights restored, but so too are Freedom of Speech; Freedom of Assembly such as the VCDL picnics; 4th amendment rights to due process and protection from unlawful search and seizure; and 10th amendment 'states rights' also are strongest in states with a strong, pro-gun movement.
So, it would appear as if OC has a strong, indirect effect of restoring/strengthening/drawing attention to the rest of the Bill of Rights.
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2009 05:10 pm |
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I don't wanna be a LEO look-alike... or a LEO wanna-be. I don't want'a be confused with any kind of LEO at all. On the other hand, I don't wanna look like a bad guy either. How ya dress varies with where ya live... and how tho pretty much. Some adapt... some never manage.
In response to LoneViking... The 2A is there to guarantee the rest of 'em. It DOES have that effect!
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Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2009 06:09 pm |
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Sonora Rebel wrote: Big Gay Al wrote: Dustin wrote:We'll IMO.
I think it is possible to OC (With Deterrant Value) yet remain Tactical too.
If I walked into a restaurant with this guy in there, I would IMMEDIATELY notice him. His choice of outfit draws attention. I don't like to draw attention.
Also Anti's see folks like this and automatically think, WILD WILD WEST !
Now I'm not one for pandering to the Anti's but wearing a .44 Mag Revolver does more than act as a Deterrant. IMO, it acts as an Attention Grabber.
I'd rather someone confuse me for an LEO, than harass me about why I'm carrying.
Well, everyone has their own style. And his gun could be a .45.
"WILD WILD WEST!" ? Well... this IS the Wild Wild West (what's left of it) and I carry a .45acp. My 'choice of outfit' is normal everyday wear.
I'd never mess with someone brave enough to sport that moustache! 
Just trying to lighten things up. Have a great day everyone!
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