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longwatch Founder's Club Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 12:32 am |
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Things that make you brrrrr .
http://www.sofmag.com/news/permalink1/2007/12/3/2114468282883.html
WASP Knife
Since World War II, the military has seen much of its soldiers equipment go through many radical changes and technological advances. The knife has gone unchanged until now. Our soldiers deserve the most advanced equipment that is available to them. A simple knife is okay, but when it comes down to the last line of defense, you want something that will get the job done. Introducing the WASP Injection Knife. This easy-to-use, easy-to-reload weapon delivers up to a 24g shot of compressed gas at 800 PSI on land or underwater.
Contact: WASP Industries
10 Busher lane, Hamden, CT 06518
(203) 285-8829 • http://www.waspknife.com
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Tomahawk Regular Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 01:46 am |
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| The wasp link doesn't work. I don't get it, it shoots compressed gas at you?
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 01:53 am |
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Tomahawk wrote: The wasp link doesn't work. I don't get it, it shoots compressed gas at you?
I was thinking "in you."
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longwatch Founder's Club Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 02:06 am |
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Yeah puts up to 24 grams of compressed CO2 into whatever its stabbed into. Jackson Pollack anyone?
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Tomahawk Regular Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 02:37 am |
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longwatch wrote: Yeah puts up to 24 grams of compressed CO2 into whatever its stabbed into. Jackson Pollack anyone?
Who is Jackson Pollack? A google search reveals some artist...
Shooting compressed gas into people sounds like a particularly nasty thing to do...
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longwatch Founder's Club Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 02:39 am |
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Tomahawk wrote: longwatch wrote: Yeah puts up to 24 grams of compressed CO2 into whatever its stabbed into. Jackson Pollack anyone?
Who is Jackson Pollack? A google search reveals some artist...
Shooting compressed gas into people sounds like a particularly nasty thing to do...
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longwatch Founder's Club Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 02:46 am |
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Aside from explosive results I would think that an injection of gas into a chest cavity would result in compression of the lungs resulting in a probably fatal hemopnuemothorax condition, if it gets into the circulatory system a fatal gas embolism.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 02:56 am |
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7306017256238900093
"The knife is listed for $599.95 at http://www.waspknife.com (http://www.waspknife.com)."
A few things I found in a quick search.
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longwatch Founder's Club Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 03:26 am |
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Thanks for the video, I had tried to find it on the website but it seems dead.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 04:03 am |
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Their website appears to be blank or messed up somehow and their myspace page has been taken down. Apparently this knife and another compressed air device are being marketed to scuba divers to repel aggressive sharks. As a scuba diver I've got issues about that on several levels. Someone from the company, not clear their position, had some posting in a few newsgroups and a forum from October wherein he talked about their myspace page being hacked. Something about this company just isn't sitting right with me ... more of a feeling based on things I'm seeing online (and not because of their products) rather than an explainable defined issue such as a particular newsgroup post I can refer to. Maybe I'm just tired.
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longwatch Founder's Club Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 04:09 am |
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Your not the only one with misgivings, today I found a few dive related forums that had people expressing concerns about the company. I do find the concept intriguing as well as horrific, but I'm not likely to get one from that company yet. At least until I know its legit.
Last edited on Wed Feb 27th, 2008 04:10 am by longwatch
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DreQo State Researcher

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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 04:11 am |
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| Seems like a good idea, and relatively practical, but the price is too high for my interest. I would buy one if it was cheaper.
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longwatch Founder's Club Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 04:13 am |
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Another use I could see for it would be as an emergency cleaning tool for sandy/ dirty firearm.
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longwatch Founder's Club Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 04:15 am |
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DreQo wrote: Seems like a good idea, and relatively practical, but the price is too high for my interest. I would buy one if it was cheaper. Yeah $379 is a bit high.
http://shop.waspinjection.com/category.sc?categoryId=2
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Tomahawk Regular Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 05:20 am |
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| LOL use this on a SHARK? Have you ever been in the water when sharks are around? If you are in a knife fight with a shark you are pretty much screwed already!
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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 09:23 am |
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Tomahawk wrote: LOL use this on a SHARK? Have you ever been in the water when sharks are around? If you are in a knife fight with a shark you are pretty much screwed already!
I don't know how they'd recommend using it, but I would venture to guess that just the burst of CO2 into the water might be enough to deter an animal. Sharks can often get very curious and physical w/o biting you (right away, anyway) so spraying that towards the shark when it gets too close might give you time to swim away/surface. I dunno, just a guess.
Besides, if I was being attacked by a shark, I'd rather have a knife than nothing!
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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 03:06 pm |
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DreQo wrote: Tomahawk wrote: LOL use this on a SHARK? Have you ever been in the water when sharks are around? If you are in a knife fight with a shark you are pretty much screwed already!
I don't know how they'd recommend using it, but I would venture to guess that just the burst of CO2 into the water might be enough to deter an animal. Sharks can often get very curious and physical w/o biting you (right away, anyway) so spraying that towards the shark when it gets too close might give you time to swim away/surface. I dunno, just a guess.
Besides, if I was being attacked by a shark, I'd rather have a knife than nothing!
Paraphrasing from the newsgroup, you stab the shark with it and release the CO2 which it damages the shark's ability to control it's depth with it's swim bladder causing it to rise quickly to the surface and either the injected CO2 or the rapid acceleration depending on depth can cause secondary embolism effects that will likely kill the shark.
I have never read of or heard of a shark attack on a scuba diving during normal diving excepting that there was chum or blood in the water due to fishing activity of some type or chumming the water to intentionally attract the sharks. If one had to try to fend off a shark, anything that would put blood into the water is a final and last ditch line of defense unless you want more sharks really frenzied and looking for a snack.
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 01:47 am |
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I've dove off the Carolina coast many times out of Beaufort and I've seen hundreds of sharks. One shipwreck had a school of sandtiger sharks circling around above it at the 35' depth where the water changed temperature, and a second school of sharks hanging around the wreck itself at 65'.
I once heard a joke that nothing in the ocean dies of old age. It just becomes too slow and something else eats it. A human swimming around sharks is by far the slowest thing in the water. You can't outswim a shark, and if one of them gets aggressive, you've got precious little time to reach down, draw your knife, and bring it to bear. You cannot swing your arm as fast as you'd like under water, and if you are close enough to stab a shark with a knife, he is close enough to sink his teeth into you. And he's faster and has more practice.
I agree that any weapon is always preferable to bare hands and foul language, and maybe this knife's jet blast may work to deter a shark as you describe. I just don't have any illusions about my chances in close combat with a shark. Fortunately, most of them are not naturally aggressive toward humans. If there are hammerheads around, though, I'll stay in the boat, thank you very much.
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Posted: Sun Mar 2nd, 2008 11:05 pm |
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Hello,
The WASP website is currently down because we are not selling it to the general public yet. We are currently in negotiations to sell it strictly on the non-civilian market and decided to take the site down while we were working out the details. We will know more in the coming weeks and the site will go back online based on the arrangements we make.
To answer a few of your concerns:
This knife is made of high-quality materials and is safe and extremely effective. Although we are gearing our marketing towards the diving community, there are other uses for besides diving.
As for the comment about being "screwed" if you encounter a shark in the open water... Yes, you are right, but if you have one last line of defense it might as well be something effective. What if the shark attacks your dive partner? At least you will have a weapon to possibly save him or her if you see it coming.
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Posted: Sun Mar 2nd, 2008 11:13 pm |
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Yeah, yeah. Sounds good. I'm sure there is a market for it. Hope it helps people and you make lots of money, but
WHERE IS THE BAYONET STUD LATCH?
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