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hopnpop
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 12:14 pm |
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PT111 wrote: You fellows watch movies for realism and I watch them for entertainment and fantasy. I really don't care that Roy Rogers could fire 24 rounds from his six-shooter without reloading, that is a perk for being the good guy. If I want realism then I will watch the History Channel and Gunney. Do you really think that Kathleen Turner could slide down a mountain and not even get her makeup smeared? Unfortunately there are too many people that equate movies, and video games, with real life.
Hey now, slow your roll... there are movies you'd expect to see 20 rounds from a pump-action shotgun without reloading, and there are other movies you'd expect more realistic accuracy. Because we, or even I alone, notice something realistic or not realistic in cinema doesn't mean that I'm watching Independence Day as a documentary! I do watch movies for entertainment and not realistic merit. But as I said, there are some movies that you'd expect more or less realism than they offer. Generally speaking, aside from slapstick comedy, I think more realism makes the movie more entertaining to me. The more realistic, the more easily I'm sucked into it. So I do think realism plays a part, but it's not as though being more realistic makes it any more real. Follow?
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UtahJarhead
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 02:17 pm |
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So, 2 friends and I went and watched Zombieland last night. EXTREMELY entertaining and IMO an ACCURATE movie! It's even got a scene where they go to give a 3 volley salute (they end up giving more than 3 volleys) to a dead person and the dude with the double barrel shotgun has to hold the whole thing up after 2 shots because... hey, it's a DOUBLE BARREL shotgun!
"Rule #2: Double Tap" is the most common rule in the movie!
It's truly one of the most funny movies I think I've ever seen. It is *NOT* a family movie! There's no nudity, but it's extremely violent and gory (YAY!) and they drop the F-bomb a couple of dozen times. Man that's such an awesome movie and EXTREMELY pro-gun!
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PT111
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 07:39 pm |
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hopnpop wrote: PT111 wrote: You fellows watch movies for realism and I watch them for entertainment and fantasy. I really don't care that Roy Rogers could fire 24 rounds from his six-shooter without reloading, that is a perk for being the good guy. If I want realism then I will watch the History Channel and Gunney. Do you really think that Kathleen Turner could slide down a mountain and not even get her makeup smeared? Unfortunately there are too many people that equate movies, and video games, with real life.
Hey now, slow your roll... there are movies you'd expect to see 20 rounds from a pump-action shotgun without reloading, and there are other movies you'd expect more realistic accuracy. Because we, or even I alone, notice something realistic or not realistic in cinema doesn't mean that I'm watching Independence Day as a documentary! I do watch movies for entertainment and not realistic merit. But as I said, there are some movies that you'd expect more or less realism than they offer. Generally speaking, aside from slapstick comedy, I think more realism makes the movie more entertaining to me. The more realistic, the more easily I'm sucked into it. So I do think realism plays a part, but it's not as though being more realistic makes it any more real. Follow?
Please don't bring up "Independence Day" as an example of anything good or bad about movies. By the time that movie was over with I was almost sick watching the stupid stuff in it trying to push as realistic. Give me "Men in Black" any day, now that was a pro gun movie and more believable than ID. 
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Tomahawk
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 11:39 pm |
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| Yeah, Independence Day was pretty awful. As a Marine air winger I wanted to grab Will Smith by the stacking swivel and cut that stupid unsat soul patch off his face. And since when do F/A-18 Hornets have drag chutes? Not to mention how a guy with a Mac laptop writes a virus for an alien computer system he's never even seen before. Also, the air-delived nuclear bomb with the little red LED numbers counting down to detonation. When you drop one of these things from an airplane, exactly who is going to be there to read the numbers as it's falling toward its target? And why would an alien waste his time shooting giant lasers at cities, when he can just redirect a few asteroids and wipe us out without us ever seeing them? Dumb dumb dumb.
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marshaul
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 11:57 pm |
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Tomahawk wrote:
Not to mention how a guy with a Mac laptop writes a virus for an alien computer system he's never even seen before.
Excuse me, Tomahawk:
I do this all the time. Plus, Jeff Goldblum was in Death Wish AND The Fly ANd Jurassic Park. So of course he can do it, too.
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Tomahawk
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Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 12:53 am |
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marshaul wrote: Plus, Jeff Goldblum was in Death Wish AND The Fly ANd Jurassic Park. So of course he can do it, too.
Goldblum was also in Buckaroo Bonzai, his character was a cowboy named New Jersey. Some of his finest work, IMO.
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John Wolver
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Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 02:53 am |
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| The complete v series.. original... very much pro gun.
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Tomahawk
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Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 03:47 am |
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John Wolver wrote: The complete v series.. original... very much pro gun.
Yes, and the new one starts this(?) week. I wonder how it'll compare.
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Ezrider
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Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 04:07 am |
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demolition man, shows the dangers of outlawing guns and corrupt politicians.
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John Wolver
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Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 04:20 am |
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Ezrider wrote: demolition man, shows the dangers of outlawing guns and corrupt politicians.
agreed
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Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 11:11 am |
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John Wolver wrote: Ezrider wrote: demolition man, shows the dangers of outlawing guns and corrupt politicians.
agreed
And the dangers of letting political correctness reach its ultimate conclusion.
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WheelGun
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Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 05:14 pm |
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marshaul wrote: Am I literally the only American who finds the mafia so reprehensible so as not to make for suitable protagonists of any sort?
I have had very little contact of any sort with Mafia types (despite living in the NYC area for decades).
The little contact I have had with them shows them to be ultimate cowards when up against anyone but each other or helpless victims.
The scariest thing for them is a person legally armed (although at the time, deeply concealed).
A legally armed law abiding citizen helps point out to them that they are nothing more than illegally armed low-lives. For some reason they find having a legal CC'er in their midst highly intimidating.
I had the opportunity to be in the situation described above on several occasions; it's interesting seeing the lion smile and have no teeth.
Therefore I certainly agree that they are reprehensible, cowardly, disgusting characters not worthy of my entertainment-viewing time.
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 11:41 am |
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| How about the Mist? One of the hero characters in the movie, played by Tobey Jones, talks about the shooting competitions he's won, and in fact shows off some of his skill.
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 08:36 pm |
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River of Death(1989)most realistic jungle fighting scenes ever.
Yog, Monster from Space(1970)people on island find cache of weapons from WWII and fight off alien attack.
V(1983) Sarah Brady's worst nightmare.
V The final battle(1984)
Defiance(2008)
King Kong(2005)THe German sea captain is my hero.
Warrior of the Lost World(1983) Armed civilians overthrow evil dictator.
A Time to kill
Last man standing
Tremors
Dillinger
Creature from the Black Lagoon(1954)
A Connecticut Yankee(1931)THe bad guys have swords, the Good Guys have Tommyguns.
Snake Eater(1989)
2020 Texas Gladiators
THe Halloween Movie where the whole armed town vaporizes Micheal Meyers.
Resident Evil Apocalypse
THe Hallmark Movie about AThens, Tennessee
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John Wolver
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 12:35 am |
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| all the harry potter movies, if you think the wands as guns... then they arm their kids at 11.
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hopnpop
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 01:49 am |
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John Wolver wrote: all the harry potter movies, if you think the wands as guns... then they arm their kids at 11.
...and as their skills progress, thus enlarging the caliber... lol
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 02:04 am |
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hopnpop wrote:
John Wolver wrote: all the harry potter movies, if you think the wands as guns... then they arm their kids at 11.
...and as their skills progress, thus enlarging the caliber... lol
-1 then, because increasingly powerful enchanted wands can teach them that "shot placement doesn't matter."
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Tomahawk
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 03:35 am |
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Overtaxed wrote: hopnpop wrote:
John Wolver wrote: all the harry potter movies, if you think the wands as guns... then they arm their kids at 11.
...and as their skills progress, thus enlarging the caliber... lol
-1 then, because increasingly powerful enchanted wands can teach them that "shot placement doesn't matter."
-1 automatically for being in Britain.
+1 though because in the first movie when Hagrid came to get Harry in the middle of the night during a thunderstorm, Harry's foster father got out of bed with an old double barrel.
-1 because the guy was an abusive coward.
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 06:30 am |
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned "Equilibrium", but that is a GREAT movie for illustrating what happens when the government is the only group allowed by law to keep and bear arms. Scary, to say the least...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0238380/
It does have some awesome "gun-fu" scenes though, and the final scene where the people rebel (with their "illegal firearms") is a real eye-opener...Last edited on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 06:30 am by Dreamer
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 09:44 am |
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Dreamer wrote:
I don't know if anyone has mentioned "Equilibrium", but that is a GREAT movie for illustrating what happens when the government is the only group allowed by law to keep and bear arms. Scary, to say the least...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0238380/
It does have some awesome "gun-fu" scenes though, and the final scene where the people rebel (with their "illegal firearms") is a real eye-opener...
The director of the film, Kurt Wimmer, created this combat system called Gunkata for the film.
It's not particularly realistic, but there's an interesting thought process behind it. Watch the bonus material on the DVD...
Edit: BTW, the dreadful TV miniseries "Amerika" was boring as heck until a rather prodigious "rising up" scene in which we finally started battling the occupation forces. The final battle had a couple of surprisingly grisly wounds and a cool lever-action rifle pass from one resistance fighter to another.Last edited on Thu Nov 5th, 2009 09:48 am by Overtaxed
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