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murphyslaw
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Posted: Fri Jan 2nd, 2009 01:04 am |
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This information is spread out threw all the different threads in our section.
Lets get it all in one place. As you post up please keep it short.
Give us
Name of the business
Approx date of last visit with incident
who you dealt with
Hopefully we can get a list going to avoid such businesses and put some pressure on them as well.
Car Care Center on muldoon.
June 12th '07
Unknown person
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spyderdude
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Posted: Fri Jan 2nd, 2009 02:48 am |
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I am the one that dealt with Car Care Center on Muldoon.
The guy's name was Brad.
I had to help my Mother take her car down there, and I decided to open carry in spite of my Mom's strong anti-gun views, because it was so warm. We got there, and went into the office. I saw him look at me, and then my sidearm which was properly holstered. He didn't say anything directly to me about it, but called my Mother when we got home. He told her that it was illegal to carry the way I did, and next time I walked in there like that, he would call the police. I ended up writing them a nice letter letting them know that open carry was in fact legal, and that they will not be getting my business ever again for threatening to call the cops, because I was doing something lawful.
I also had a negative incident at the mid-town Wal Mart, but was resolved with the store manager.
Last edited on Fri Jan 2nd, 2009 02:53 am by spyderdude
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insane.kangaroo
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Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 07:49 pm |
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Did you call him to inform the guy he is incorrect and open carry is completely legal?
I'll educate the person if you have not. 
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spyderdude
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Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 12:44 am |
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I wrote them a letter, and provided a copy of Alaska's carry laws.
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insane.kangaroo
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Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 01:22 am |
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did they reply? I just want to make sure they're really anti and don't want any gun owner's business.
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spyderdude
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Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 04:15 am |
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They have several American Rifleman magazines in the lobby, so that leads me to believe they're not entirely anti-gun, they just believe that open carry is illegal. In fact the magazines were addressed to the very guy that called my Mother about me open carrying.
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akhunter3
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Posted: Thu Jan 8th, 2009 09:54 pm |
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The fellow in Ammo King on Boniface isn't very friendly about OC. He has a whole dialogue written up about how it is/was illegal.
I've also heard the guy has worked people over on several gun orders, so he might just be one of those 
Jon
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insane.kangaroo
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Posted: Thu Jan 8th, 2009 11:39 pm |
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I called the Car Care center on Muldoon and spoke with Brad. He stated the person in question was acting irresponsible in person being a show off with his firearm and constantly touching said firearm, which was the reason behind the negative response. He himself conceals and does even have an Alaska CCW(even though they're not needed here)
I must reiterate my stance on people open carrying... don't act like a emo when you carry a firearm. It's rude, impolite, and you're not setting a good example for the rest of us.
Personally, I open carry everywhere I go in a nice retention holster. At most in touching my gun, I'm setting my arm on the top of my holster. I don't wear clothes with logos, and keep shoe logos to a minimal without having to wear military boots. I suggest people to do the same, keep a good attitude, and *gasp* smile.
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spyderdude
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Posted: Fri Jan 9th, 2009 01:13 am |
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I never once touched my handgun. A guy sitting in the lobby was wearing a hat with a Glock logo on it, and I simply complimented him on it. I honestly don't see how that is being irresponsible. I wasn't trying to show off my gun (which happened to be a Glock). it was rather warm that day, and I didn't feel like covering up my pistol.
He called my Mother, told her it was ILLEGAL to open carry, and next time I come in there like that, he's going to call the police.
Last edited on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 01:15 am by spyderdude
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insane.kangaroo
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Posted: Fri Jan 9th, 2009 01:58 am |
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He was under the presumption from when I was speaking to him no firearm signs or business policies made it illegal. He should've asked you to leave but did not.
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murphyslaw
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Posted: Fri Jan 9th, 2009 05:09 pm |
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So they have a no firearms sign?
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insane.kangaroo
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Posted: Fri Jan 9th, 2009 05:33 pm |
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you probably want to call to clarify for yourself, he was heated when I mentioned said person. Brad seems to carry concealed, and the incident was about specific person.
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spyderdude
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Posted: Fri Jan 9th, 2009 11:54 pm |
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That is fine that he carries concealed, but he should learn the laws before he threatens to call the police. I just will not do business with CCC anymore. I have OCd in other car repair shops, nothing was said. Unfortunately OC is so uncommon, its not surprising that people would call the police at the sight of someone OCing a firearm, but no badge.
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insane.kangaroo
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Posted: Sat Jan 10th, 2009 01:56 am |
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He said to me you are a person who shouldn't carry a gun, he didn't specify open or concealed.
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spyderdude
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Posted: Sat Jan 10th, 2009 03:26 am |
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Well he is entitled to his opinion, but like all law abiding people, I have a right to protect myself and the people I care about. If Brad does not want me to come in there with a gun, open or concealed, then he just won't get my business. I rest my case, end of discussion.
Next anti business please!
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insane.kangaroo
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Posted: Sat Jan 10th, 2009 04:04 am |
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Next? I'm still waiting on the first.
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Flintlock
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Posted: Fri Jan 16th, 2009 09:05 pm |
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insane.kangaroo wrote: He said to me you are a person who shouldn't carry a gun, he didn't specify open or concealed.
Well, thank goodness it is not up to individual citizens to determine whether or not "certain" people may, or should carry firearms. If that were the case, we would all be in trouble because of the anti-gun sentiment that the media, laws, and political figures that have indoctrinated our society have created.
Quite frankly, I will be taking the side of the open carrier in question over the over-zelous business owner. Way too many times in my life have I seen people in a work place environment utter their complete ignorance and personal anti-gun feelings on the topics of gun ownership and carrying in general. Sounds to me that the guy has egg on his face and he is trying to put himself into a good light. I have never seen an open carrier mishandle themselves in public in my life. I would assume those occurances would be a rare event indeed.
I have also seen business managers and owners all of a sudden become lawyers and firearm law experts right before my eyes when they have not a clue at all.
I have no reason to distrust Spyderdude in this case and it is also possible that the business guy has mixed up this case with another carrier as this was a while ago.
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Posted: Sun May 10th, 2009 08:23 pm |
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I have begun my spring writing campaign and sent the 5th Avenue Mall an e-mail about their no firearms sign at the building entrance. I will post their response, if any. I was polite but detailed.
Any other businesses or malls that can be written or called?
I haven't seen any recently.
Last edited on Mon May 11th, 2009 06:35 pm by Flintlock
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spyderdude
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 05:42 am |
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You can try calling the Northway Mall. They have a list of rules right at one of the front entrances and I think its the 6th rule down on the list that prohibits the possession of weapons on the property. I haven't seen any posted signs at Dimond Mall, but at least they have armed security.
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Posted: Mon May 11th, 2009 06:38 pm |
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spyderdude wrote: You can try calling the Northway Mall. They have a list of rules right at one of the front entrances and I think its the 6th rule down on the list that prohibits the possession of weapons on the property. I haven't seen any posted signs at Dimond Mall, but at least they have armed security.
I might do that, but I would like to get the exact wording before I send anything. You are right, at Diamond, they have armed security. Do you know anything about the security company at 5th Avenue?
They are unarmed but carry cuffs. I found that very interesting because they have no arrest powers and cannot detain citizens against their will.
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