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Alaskan Shooter
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Posted: Thu May 14th, 2009 04:58 pm |
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Well this was interesting. I was going to post this last week, but I got busy.
Every Thursday afternoon I go to Wal-Mart to check on bulk ammo. Last week I was stopped at the door by the greeter. Now I open carry every place I go and I have seen this same greeter and talked to her many times. I guess she just noticed that I carry a gun.
I walked by her and said hello, I grabbed a cart and headed into the store. I then here sir excuse me, sir you can’t be in here with a rifle on your hip. I stop and let her know that this is a pistol and that I come in here all the time with my pistol. She asked me to come back to the entrance while she called a manager to come over and talk to me.
I waited about 10 minutes while talking to a customer who asked me what type of gun I carry and what kind of holster I had. He had never seen one like that. While I was explaining to him how a Serpa works and why I only open carry in a retention holster. His wife yells, “Lets go you don’t need any more guns”.
At about that time the manager finally came over to the door and the greeter started rambling about how I have a rifle on my hip. The manager looked at me and at my XDM and said so what, he is allowed to carry a gun. She then went on to explain to the greeter that it is ok for anyone to come into the store with a gun as long as it is in a holster. I thanked both the greeter and the manager and continued to the gun counter and purchased my ammo.
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Dahwg
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Posted: Thu May 14th, 2009 05:39 pm |
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Alaskan Shooter wrote: ... continued to the gun counter and purchased my ammo.
The most amazing part of the whole story!
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Felid`Maximus
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Posted: Thu May 14th, 2009 06:41 pm |
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Good story!
Since the XDM has a rifled barrel rather than a smooth bore, in that sense you could call it a rifle!Last edited on Thu May 14th, 2009 06:42 pm by Felid`Maximus
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Flintlock
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Posted: Thu May 14th, 2009 07:24 pm |
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Alaskan Shooter wrote: Last week I was stopped at the door by the greeter. Now I open carry every place I go and I have seen this same greeter and talked to her many times. I guess she just noticed that I carry a gun.
I walked by her and said hello, I grabbed a cart and headed into the store. I then here sir excuse me, sir you can’t be in here with a rifle on your hip.
Thanks for posting this story. It is amazing how people can be so oblivious to their surroundings as to not notice your weapon on previous occassions. Second, I grow very frustrated with the absolute ignorance of store employees all over this country that are clueless but feel knowledgable enough in their belief that you are doing something wrong to comment or stop you.
And in Fairbanks no less! Does anyone read the paper or ever talk to anyone that is a gun owner or carrier?
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spyderdude
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Posted: Thu May 14th, 2009 09:12 pm |
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How one can confuse a rifle with a pistol is beyond me. That's good that greeter got a little education on the gun laws here.
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Grapeshot
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 12:10 am |
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Now this would be a rifle on your hip. 
From Wanted Dead or Alive 1958 television show starring Steve McQueen.
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ccwinstructor
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 03:27 am |
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I was open carrying in Anchorage a few years ago, and was stopped at the entrance to the Wal-Mart. They would not let me in with an open carried revolver. As I recall, it was a Taurus titanium 627 with a 6 1/2 inch barrel.
I told them that I could legally conceal it, then how would they know I was carrying?
The manager said it did not matter, they would not let me in the store with an openly carried firearm.
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FunkTrooper
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Posted: Fri May 15th, 2009 07:15 am |
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ccwinstructor wroteThe manager said it did not matter, they would not let me in the store with an openly carried firearm.
That's funny because Walmart policy follows state law, I was OCing in an Alaskan walmart a few days ago and no one said anything but if a greeter told me to wait I'm pretty sure I would have ignored them and continued on.
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ccwinstructor
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 01:07 am |
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| It was several years ago, just after the "Alaska carry" bill passed.
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sv_libertarian
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 06:16 am |
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ROTFLMAO!!! HAH! Glad the manager had common sense and knew his company policy.
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ainfantry7
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 03:10 pm |
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| haha, I've pretty much avoided walmart...I always get too many looks, plus there's just too many people in there at one time...I can't stand huge crouds...Up in Wasila they were even worse than Anchorage. I'll still OC wherever I go though...
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spyderdude
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 02:29 am |
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I have open carried on several occasions in the Mid-town Wal Mart. Only once did I have a negative response, and that was from the sporting goods department. I was escorted out of the building, and received an apology from the store manager two days later after sending a formal complaint.
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murphyslaw
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 06:35 pm |
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Glade to hear, they followed policy this time.
Wal-Mart Regional Manager Robert Reck said managers are NOT permitted to
tell customers to cover….ever.
Wal-Mart Regional Manager Robert Reck said manaers are NOT permitted to
tell customers to leave the store because of lawful firearms carry.
Wal-Mart Regional Manager Robert Reck said managers are NOT permitted to
tell customers to go lock their firearms in their vehicles.
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autosurgeon
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 07:55 am |
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Down in MI I have been stopped a few time at WalMart but just tell em to call Bentonville and they will set em straight... they never call just let me go about my business.. I guess they know it's legal they just like to hassle the guy with the gun
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Ian
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Posted: Wed Jul 8th, 2009 02:54 pm |
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You should have just told the greeter, "Go speak to your manager, he or she can tell you what I'm doing is perfectly legal. If they have a problem with it, they can call corporate and they will tell them that Wal-Mart policy is to follow state law."
Last edited on Wed Jul 8th, 2009 02:56 pm by Ian
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Alaskan Shooter
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Posted: Thu Jul 23rd, 2009 01:19 am |
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I would like to have told the greeter exactly that, but I am also a firm believer in private property rights.
Once a representative of the store told me to stop, I felt that it was my responsibility to stop.
As a representative of other firearm owners, it was the correct thing to do IMHO.
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stuckinchico
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Posted: Mon Jul 27th, 2009 11:03 am |
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Alaskan Shooter wrote: I would like to have told the greeter exactly that, but I am also a firm believer in private property rights.
Once a representative of the store told me to stop, I felt that it was my responsibility to stop.
As a representative of other firearm owners, it was the correct thing to do IMHO.
That representative has no rights Wally world has already said what their policy is
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modelo57
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Posted: Mon Jul 27th, 2009 10:46 pm |
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| Very off topic, but sorta related and darkly amusing. Here in CT a man was arrested at Bradley Intl airport for "having a rifle in his wallet!" What really happened was the idiot "security" person started going through his wallet after he dropped it on the belt. The man told the "kid" to "stop rifling my wallet." Maybe the "kid" should be sent to an English as a second language class.
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Tue Jul 28th, 2009 04:27 pm |
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'Couple years ago I stopped in a Denny's off of I-10 north of Tucson for some coffee. This waitress got all inna twitter over the 'rifle' on my hip. (1911-A1) I asked how long she'd been in Arizona... (a week). 'Told her get used to it... 'n this ain't no rifle. 'Told her I 'had' a rifle in the truck tho, if she'd prefer.  She ran off. I had to get another waitress. Where do they come up with this 'rifle' stuff?
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modelo57
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Posted: Tue Jul 28th, 2009 08:13 pm |
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Sonora Rebel wrote: 'Couple years ago I stopped in a Denny's off of I-10 north of Tucson for some coffee. This waitress got all inna twitter over the 'rifle' on my hip. (1911-A1) I asked how long she'd been in Arizona... (a week). 'Told her get used to it... 'n this ain't no rifle. 'Told her I 'had' a rifle in the truck tho, if she'd prefer. She ran off. I had to get another waitress. Where do they come up with this 'rifle' stuff?
English is a very difficult language, especially for those of us that were born here in America. I've dealt with many "English as a second language" people from almost every country imaginable and those that learn from scratch have a much better understanding of the use of English and do not make mistakes like calling a pistol a rifle, banana, hammer, evil or whatever.
BTW I still hate it when someone calls one of my wheel guns a pistol. I cleave the rabbit and inform them it is properly called a revolver. That is except my single action Army. I like to call it a "hogleg". Romantic, Heh?
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