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FunkTrooper
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Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2009 10:28 pm |
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So my friend went to AK shooters supply and he and the owner (can't think of his name) started talking about gun laws the owner convinced my friend that you should only use the same defensive ammunition as the police and that their is a federal law prohibiting any form of carry into a bank.
My friend still doesn't believe me that there is no federal law banning guns in banks (even after I walked into my bank OCing to prove it)
Anyone else have similar problems?
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Flintlock
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Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2009 11:20 pm |
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FunkTrooper wrote: So my friend went to AK shooters supply and he and the owner (can't think of his name) started talking about gun laws the owner convinced my friend that you should only use the same defensive ammunition as the police and that their is a federal law prohibiting any form of carry into a bank.
My friend still doesn't believe me that there is no federal law banning guns in banks (even after I walked into my bank OCing to prove it)
Anyone else have similar problems?
I have heard the guys at that store say the same thing about open carry. After that, I don't give them the time of day. They are clueless. Actually, I find that to be the case in most gun shops I have frequented over the years. Word of warning: They are not lawyers, nor are the police, nor am I.
But I can read.
This is the thread from this forum where I argued with a concealed carry permit trainer here in Alaska about bank carry...
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum9/31882.html
Some people will just never get it. FDIC is insurance. It doesn't make the bank a federal building. That's would be like saying that because I have home owners insurance, State Farm really owns my house.
Lastly, I have never heard anyone make a compelling argument against bank carry. All they say it that "it is a federal law." "It's FDIC Insured..."
I always say, "Well, which Federal Law?" "Have fun trying to find it." FDIC is not a law, it's an insurance corporation.
Nobody usually responds after that.
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eXistenZ
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Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 03:30 pm |
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| In my opinion more mis-information comes from Gun Shops than anywhere else. You may say the internet is the first but gun shops were around first so I'm giving them the benefit of being the longest running morons. When I actually here someone behind a gun shop counter give good advice and actually knows what their talking about I'm always amazed.
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professionaladventurer
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Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 07:37 pm |
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I don't really open carry, I carry a FNH FiveseveN so it pretty obvious on a paddle holster, so [almost] open carry. I carry everywhere, banks included. As I always say "unless there is a metal detector then I carry". I carry at ANC; on the non-secure side. The only reason, (even if I were super drunk -which I don't get) I would pull my weapon is the same reason I carry one every day.
- http://www.professionaladventurer.com
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akhunter3
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Posted: Tue Nov 17th, 2009 10:01 am |
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I've had issues with that same shop, don't even bother stopping in there anymore. I've also had a buddy tell me about getting screwed out of a gun. Payed and never got the gun or a refund.
No desire to ever stop in there now.
On the other hand, I was in Mountain View Sports this last week and those guys were both knowledgeable and helpful, best shop I've been to in quite awhile.
Jon
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FMCDH
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Posted: Sun Nov 22nd, 2009 12:51 am |
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The problem comes with the pressure gun store employees have to talk about the subjects that their job touches. Many assume (wrongly) that if a person works in a gun store, they must know everything about guns and read about the laws of firearms ownership and carrying.
People strike up conversations with them and they feel they need to appear knowledgeable as to not embarrass themselves so they just make things up on the spot, or make guesses based upon popular myths.
Many when I have called their bluff and even corrected them with number and verse defend their statements adamantly.
Its amazing how many people I have meet that work in gun stores that are gun enthusiasts and can talk models and statistics all day long, but don't know thing one about the laws governing the ownership or carrying of those firearms. Many don't even carry outside of the store.
I just end up telling the poor confused customer to look it up for themselves.
Strangely, I have gotten dirty looks by the employees, but never kicked out of a store for correcting them.
Fully half of all gun shop employees I have met and talked to were under the belief that OC was illegal in Washington. 
((sigh)) And the education of America never ends.
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NCjones
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Posted: Sun Nov 22nd, 2009 01:07 am |
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People strike up conversations with them and they feel they need to appear knowledgeable as to not embarrass themselves so they just make things up on the spot, or make guesses based upon popular myths.
SOUNDS LIKE RADIO SHACK!
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M1Gunr
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Posted: Sun Nov 22nd, 2009 01:56 am |
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RCW 9.41.300 does not say anything about banks.
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FMCDH
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Posted: Sun Nov 22nd, 2009 02:39 am |
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M1Gunr wrote: RCW 9.41.300 does not say anything about banks.
Try finding a gun store employee that knows what RCW 9.41.300 says. 
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