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virginiatuck Regular Member 
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It's been just over three weeks since the submission of my Pistol/Revolver application. I called the NH State Police Permits & Licensing unit since their FAQ says to feel free to call them if you don't hear or receive anything within three weeks. They said that it is taking up to eight weeks to process applications at this time. It's not a problem for me because I won't be visiting until later in the summer/fall. Hopefully it won't take *that* long. Apparently there have been an overwhelming number of applications. And no matter that the law says "14 days", if they can't get them done in time, they can't get them done in time. I wonder if it's the fact that some states will honor non-resident NH licenses for concealed carry that is driving the high number of applications to New Hampshire? Or if there is also a growing demand for resident licenses in NH? Does anyone foresee the New Hampshire legislature changing their policy of issuing non-resident licenses in the future? Or changing the concealed handgun laws in any other way in response to the high demand and longer than 14-day wait times? |
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timf343 Campaign Veteran 
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Interesting question. Even an increased demand by residents would not impact non-resident applications since resident permits are handled by local PD. State Police handles only non-resident applications. I wonder what the story is. Can't get them done or not, it's still a violation of the law. |
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First Responder Regular Member
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Check out http://www.NHLiberty.org They have and critique all the proposed NH firearm bills. To help this and other questions of NH laws go to the NH state web sites: http://www.nh.gov/constitution/constitution.html http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/indexes/default.html http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XII/159/159-6.htm You wrote ... "And no matter that the law says "14 days", if they can't get them done in time, they can't get them done in time." ... I just want to point out this "conditioning" we have been subjected to when we make up reasons for the state not to follow the same laws that they demand us to follow.... "Can't get them done or not, it's still a violation of the law." Last edited on Tue Mar 24th, 2009 02:00 pm by First Responder |
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virginiatuck Regular Member
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First Responder wrote: Check out http://www.NHLiberty.org They have and critique all the proposed NH firearm bills. No court can amend the laws of physics to accommodate the laws of man. That's all I was implying, nothing more. Hypothetically, if there are 50,000 permits to print, and it's only physically possible for them to process and print 1,000 per day, it will take 50 days to process and print them. I'm going to let them slide at least up to the 8 weeks they told me on the phone; just as a cop or a judge would let someone slide on a minor offense. To me, that's all it is right now, a minor offense. It'd be different if this were my home state or I was in a bigger hurry or didn't have any other options; but there are enough problems to worry about and fix here in Virginia, let alone states in which I do not reside, vote, or pay taxes. New Hampshire is not my responsibility. Beyond eight weeks I'm going to take action, but not until then. And if it's going to cost me a lot of time and money, you can bet I'm not going to pursue it. I'd be better off spending my time and money vacationing somewhere other than New Hampshire/New England. I'm not "conditioned" that states are allowed to break laws, thank you very much. I am conditioned to wisely choose my battles and how to spend my time and money. Thanks for nhliberty.org. I didn't know about that site and I will check it out. |
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First Responder Regular Member
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virginiatuck wrote: I agree with you that there are legitimate delays. You should have your license within the time frame that was quoted. I should have noted that New Hampshire doesn't "play games" like some states and are very good at issuing licenses. I know about picking one's "battles" and Connecticut is not that state so I will be moving to NH where my time and money will make more of a difference in having my voice heard. |
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bennettprescott Opt-Out Member 
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This rush for permits has expanded at an incredible rate, then. When I moved from NH to CT, my non-resident permit arrived in 10 days... that was in September of 2008. 6 months later and they're out to 8 weeks. |
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LiveFreeOrDie Opt-Out Member
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virginiatuck wrote: Apparently there have been an overwhelming number of applications. And no matter that the law says "14 days", if they can't get them done in time, they can't get them done in time. Wrong, wrong, wrong. The law requires them to get it done in 14 days and they are subject to the law as much as you are. You can file a writ of mandamus in a New Hampshire court and it will issue you a temporary license. 8 weeks is completely unacceptable. If that happens to any New Hampshire resident, I will be sure to help them sue that agency. Someone's safety should not be jeapordized because a few bureaucrats can't follow the law. I wonder if it's the fact that some states will honor non-resident NH licenses for concealed carry that is driving the high number of applications to New Hampshire? Or if there is also a growing demand for resident licenses in NH? There's a growing demand for all things gun since Obama got elected, here and everywhere. Does anyone foresee the New Hampshire legislature changing their policy of issuing non-resident licenses in the future? Or changing the concealed handgun laws in any other way in response to the high demand and longer than 14-day wait times? No, gun control cannot get through the NH legislature because we have an active group of gun rights activists here who won't let it happen. As long as they continue to show up, our rights are safe. Last edited on Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 03:12 pm by LiveFreeOrDie |
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Mark (IL) Regular Member
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Message at State Police Permit # now says 10 weeks ... been waiting 8 so far... I suspect nonresidents are not a top priority for most state governments (tho they are making some money on this). |
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First Responder Regular Member
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LiveFreeOrDie wrote: virginiatuck wrote:LiveFree...Apparently there have been an overwhelming number of applications. And no matter that the law says "14 days", if they can't get them done in time, they can't get them done in time. As you previously pointed out, per NH RSA Chp XII sec. 159.6 http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XII/159/159-6.htmit a permit shall be issued within 14 days ... Are you in contact with your NH rep ( or Rep Itse, Sen. Winters) to bring this delay to their attention? I'm not in NH yet but I could forward this forum topic to them. |
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Flyer22 Regular Member
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LiveFreeOrDie wrote: virginiatuck wrote:Apparently there have been an overwhelming number of applications. And no matter that the law says "14 days", if they can't get them done in time, they can't get them done in time. From a hyper-technical point of view, you are of course correct. But you don't seem to give any leeway for circumstances, and that's wrong. An anology for you: I think a lot of states have laws to the effect that car accidents should be moved away from traffic. Suppose you are in an accident and for some reason your vehicle must be manually pushed over to the shoulder. However, you fell the day before and hurt your shoulder quite badly, and thus are unable to push your vehicle. So the responding officer gives you a ticket for not following the law. Would you think that the ticket was fair? Probably not. However, based on the rigid standard that you have set for NH's officials, you would not be able to complain. |
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LiveFreeOrDie Opt-Out Member
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Flyer22 wrote: LiveFreeOrDie wrote:virginiatuck wrote:Apparently there have been an overwhelming number of applications. And no matter that the law says "14 days", if they can't get them done in time, they can't get them done in time. First, the law allows you to get a temporary carry license from a court and I recommend anyone who is waiting beyond the statutory period to take advantage of that (and have the police pay for the legal costs of doing so, as the statute allows). Second, no, I don't care that the police have harder circumstances. They can pull some of their officers from arresting non-violent people and put them into a job that actually protects the public. I'm not willing for people to be put in danger because the police can't follow the law. Maybe folks in Colorado are. They won't have any sympathy if you carry concealed without a license because of circumstances; I don't have any sympathy for their breaking of the law either. Besides, it takes 10 minutes or less to process a carry license. All that is needed is a background check (which can be done with a simple telephone call) and then typing up the piece of paper. That's it. They can handle it. Your example doesn't hold water because this is the statute in NH: "If a vehicle stopped in the roadway is movable and its driver is capable of moving it, the driver shall immediately move the vehicle to the shoulder or to another safe area off of the traveled portion of the roadway." RSA 267:37-b. |
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LiveFreeOrDie Opt-Out Member
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First Responder wrote: Are you in contact with your NH rep ( or Rep Itse, Sen. Winters) to bring this delay to their attention? I'm not in NH yet but I could forward this forum topic to them. Winters is a representative, not a senator (FYI  )No, I haven't contacted anyone since I haven't had any problems. I got my license on day 14. |
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Mark (IL) Regular Member
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Now 12 weeks.... Mark |
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doobie Regular Member
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I got my permit in 3 days. Only because the CLEO was out of town. If he had been in the office it would have been about 15 minutes. Non-residents are different because they confirm with your home state if your permit is really valid and not forged. That is where the backlog is (at least that is what they claim). If you push the issue you may get a 'denied due to being unable to confirm your home-state permit." or something like that. Worst case, you posted on an Open Carry forum, just Open Carry. Last edited on Sat May 9th, 2009 02:19 pm by doobie |
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Mark (IL) Regular Member
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Absolutely. Only reason I want this permit is I hate to OC for extended periods in the rain or snow in the national forests, etc., stainless steel SP101 or not. (Of course, nonresidents don't have legislators to complain to, either...). Will let you know how long it takes. Best, Mark |
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doobie Regular Member
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Mark (IL) wrote: Absolutely. Only reason I want this permit is I hate to OC for extended periods in the rain or snow in the national forests, etc., stainless steel SP101 or not. (Of course, nonresidents don't have legislators to complain to, either...). Will let you know how long it takes. Best, Mark Well you said July... hopefully it won't be snowing too much But I hear you on the rain. A clear rain jacket could in theory maybe work Also, to answer your original question, the turn-around time increased greatly sometime around December 2007/January 2008. Based on your OP it sounded like you applied around mid-February. I heard they were getting to Feb. applications a couple of weeks ago. Hopefully you'll have the license in the next 0-3 weeks. |
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deepdiver Activist Member 
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Well, that may explain it. I sent in my non-resident application about 4-6 weeks ago and the check hasn't cleared the bank yet. I was getting concerned that they had not received it. I'll try to remember to call next week and see if they can even tell me if they received it. Thanks for the info guys. |
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virginiatuck Regular Member
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deepdiver wrote: Well, that may explain it. I sent in my non-resident application about 4-6 weeks ago and the check hasn't cleared the bank yet. I was getting concerned that they had not received it. I'll try to remember to call next week and see if they can even tell me if they received it. They will not confirm whether they have received your application. Verification of receipt would only exacerbate the backlog. I have opted not to pursue the writ of mandamus and will instead wait it out. As of last Monday they were working on permits received on February 13th. They also said that they were working through weekends. They said my permit should arrive within one week after my check clears. |
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FMCDH Regular Member 
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deepdiver wrote: Well, that may explain it. I sent in my non-resident application about 4-6 weeks ago and the check hasn't cleared the bank yet. I was getting concerned that they had not received it. I'll try to remember to call next week and see if they can even tell me if they received it. Feb 18th is the date mine was sent out and I am still waiting for my non resident permit. Assuming it took an entire week to get there by first class mail, that would make it just short of 3 months. In contrast, my Pennsylvania non-resident permit took just 3 weeks from mail out to mail back. I don't get it, how can one state have so much an issue and another with even more non-resident applications like PA have so little trouble?  |
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virginiatuck Regular Member
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FMCDH wrote: Feb 18th is the date mine was sent out and I am still waiting for my non resident permit. Assuming it took an entire week to get there by first class mail, that would make it just short of 3 months. A first-class letter sent USPS from Seattle to Concord should take three days. http://postcalc.usps.gov/MailServices.aspx?M=0&P=0&O=1&OZ=98104&DZ=03305&MailingDate=5/20/2009&MailingTime=17:00&Restrict=False Why does NH process a lower volume of permits slower than PA processes a higher volume? Probably because non-resident NH permits are all processed by a single department in Concord, NH; rather than in PA where permits are processed within the county where the application is made. PA would probably have the same backlog if all non-resident permits had to be processed by Harrisburg. Quote timf343: Even an increased demand by residents would not impact non-resident applications since resident permits are handled by local PD. State Police handles only non-resident applications. |
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deepdiver Activist Member
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virginiatuck wrote: deepdiver wrote:Thanks!! I figured they would deposit the checks upon receipt and then process the applications as they got to them. Knowing that they don't deposit the check until they get further along in the process answers my question and quells my concern about their receipt of my application.Well, that may explain it. I sent in my non-resident application about 4-6 weeks ago and the check hasn't cleared the bank yet. I was getting concerned that they had not received it. I'll try to remember to call next week and see if they can even tell me if they received it. |
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FMCDH Regular Member
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On another planet... Strangely enough and by some act of God I am sure, I got my Florida non-resident permit in only 70 days. My application packet was received by FDACS on 05 March and my permit was issued on the 13th of May, I received it today. They must be picking up steam over there, or else something or someone spurred them to stop dragging. Anyway, I'm happy. AND I got my Florida permit before I got my NH permit that was submitted on the 18th of Feb...who would have thought?! lol |
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virginiatuck Regular Member
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Application mailed: Feb. 18, 2009 Date check cashed/cleared: Jun. 1, 2009 Received license: Jun. 2 or 3, 2009 Postmark: Jun 1, 2009 Date issued (printed on license): May 27, 2009 Given the 6/1 postmark it likely arrived in my mailbox on 6/3, but I was out of town until now so I can't say that with 100% certainty. Total time from application to receipt: 105 days (or 15 weeks) It's too bad it came a day before I got back, I could have used the license while I was on this recent trip. Nevertheless, I am still glad to have this NH license and will hopefully get to visit the great state of NH later this year and drive or be inside of a car while carrying. |
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Jared Regular Member 
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You could have carried in NH on your VA permit. Since VA recognizes every states license, that means they recognize NH's. New Hampshire recognizes and states resident permit as long as that state recognizes NH's license. The state police website may not be up to date, but it doesn't have to be. The law does not require an agreement or anything. |
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virginiatuck Regular Member
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Jared wrote: You could have carried in NH on your VA permit. Since VA recognizes every states license, that means they recognize NH's. New Hampshire recognizes and states resident permit as long as that state recognizes NH's license. The state police website may not be up to date, but it doesn't have to be. The law does not require an agreement or anything. VA does not recognize every state's license. VA has some extraordinary requirements, such as 24/7 verification. Also in order to comply, NH may not allow a person to obtain a permit/license in NH who would be disqualified from obtaining a permit/license in VA. For at least one of those two reasons, NH and VA have not had reciprocity in the past. Unless something has changed recently, then I believe that NH does not recognize VA's permit. Virginia Code Section 18.2-308, Subsection P: P. A valid concealed handgun or concealed weapon permit or license issued by another state shall authorize the holder of such permit or license who is at least 21 years of age to carry a concealed handgun in the Commonwealth, provided (i) the issuing authority provides the means for instantaneous verification of the validity of all such permits or licenses issued within that state, accessible 24 hours a day, and (ii) except for the age of the permit or license holder and the type of weapon authorized to be carried, the requirements and qualifications of that state's law are adequate to prevent possession of a permit or license by persons who would be denied a permit in the Commonwealth under this section. The Superintendent of State Police shall (a) in consultation with the Office of the Attorney General determine whether states meet the requirements and qualifications of this section, (b) maintain a registry of such states on the Virginia Criminal Information Network (VCIN), and (c) make the registry available to law-enforcement officers for investigative purposes. The Superintendent of the State Police, in consultation with the Attorney General, may also enter into agreements for reciprocal recognition with any state qualifying for recognition under this subsection. See subsection E of 18.2-308 for disqualified persons. http://leg1.state.va.us/000/cod/18.2-308.HTM Edited to fix ambiguous grammar. Last edited on Tue Jun 9th, 2009 05:38 am by virginiatuck |
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jegoodin Founder's Club Member 
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I'm a VA resident who also has a NH CCP that expires toward the end of July. I received a very nice letter in the mail last week from the NH State Police with a copy of the application for renewal. I filled it out the next day and sent it in. NH is a class act. (BTW, I used to be a NH resident. Live Free or Die!) |
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KBCraig Regular Member
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A VA license is not recognized by NH. So far, there has been only one court in NH that ruled a man's VA license was good in NH (covered here). I don't know if it's been addressed by other courts. Carrying concealed in NH on a VA license has some legal precedent, but you'd better be prepared for your own court battle. I think it cost Bill about $3,000 to win, and only then because his wife did most of the paralegal work. |
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Mark (IL) Regular Member
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Consistent with virginiatuck's experience, my application was mailed on 2/19, check was deposited on 6/2. I'm guessing permit has arrived, but we are on the road for a couple of weeks. 15 weeks appears to be the story at this point for nonresident permits. |
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FMCDH Regular Member
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Mark (IL) wrote: Consistent with virginiatuck's experience, my application was mailed on 2/19, check was deposited on 6/2. I'm guessing permit has arrived, but we are on the road for a couple of weeks. 15 weeks appears to be the story at this point for nonresident permits. Wow, and people are saying Florida was bad....netch! |
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jegoodin Founder's Club Member
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FMCDH wrote: Mark (IL) wrote:Consistent with virginiatuck's experience, my application was mailed on 2/19, check was deposited on 6/2. I'm guessing permit has arrived, but we are on the road for a couple of weeks. 15 weeks appears to be the story at this point for nonresident permits. It must be a volume issue or something. When I first applied for my NH permit it took about 10 days from the time I put the application in the mail until I received it in the mail. |
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MA106 Regular Member
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jegoodin wrote: FMCDH wrote:Mark (IL) wrote:Consistent with virginiatuck's experience, my application was mailed on 2/19, check was deposited on 6/2. I'm guessing permit has arrived, but we are on the road for a couple of weeks. 15 weeks appears to be the story at this point for nonresident permits. im brand new on here. I live in MA. I just applied yesterday. Gave NH state police a heads up on my app. They said the backlog is up to 3 months now. |
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FMCDH Regular Member
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Update.... Just received my NH Non-Resident permit yesterday in the mail. Was submitted on Feb 18th and issued on Jun 1. (103 days) |
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CapnKlay Regular Member 
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Application mailed: March 09, 2009 Date check cashed/cleared: Not Yet Received license: Not Yet Total time from application to now: 100 days Nothing Nada Zip. According to your calculations I should be getting it in the next 3 to 5 days. <sigh> |
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Jeremy2141 Regular Member 
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You guys are just going to have to move here. They're increasing the fee to 100$ (if the budget passes) for non-resident. If you move, the resident fee is still 10$ and you can go see a judge and get one issued if the PD is slower than 14 days. |
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CapnKlay Regular Member
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Was that a "Nanner-nanner-boo-boo-I-Got-Mine-Quicker-Cuz-I-Live-Here"?   I wish they would hurry and Cash THE CHECK!  I need to move the account and the check is outstanding.I realize this is a terribly ignorant question: Is there a contact number where you can talk to an actual person and check to see if they have started the processing yet? I am guessing not. The wheels of government grind slowly - and I am feeling like road-kill. Day 101 <sigh> |
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Jeremy2141 Regular Member
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The number for the NH Department of Safety, Division of State Police, Support Services Division, Permits and Licensing Unit is (603) 271-3575. They are, after all, required by law to have the permit issued within 14 days, just saying. 159:6 License to Carry. – The license shall be issued within 14 days after application, and, if such application is denied, the reason for such denial shall be stated in writing, the original of which such writing shall be delivered to the applicant, and a copy kept in the office of the person to whom the application was made. Of course, you can always open carry in NH without the permit. Last edited on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 10:36 pm by Jeremy2141 |
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David59 Regular Member
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Sent 3-1-09, cashed check 6-12-09 and received the permit today. |
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CapnKlay Regular Member
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 Application mailed: March 09, 2009 Date issued (printed on license): June 23, 2009 Date check cashed/cleared: June 25, 2009 Postmark: June 25, 2009 Received license: June 29, 2009 Total time from application to receipt: 113 Days |
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BIKER CHICK Regular Member 
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Hi Everyone. So if the application was sent in beginning of June with the $20 and doesn't get processed for three months, are they going to accept the $20 fee from that time or look to get the other $80 because of the Fee Increase July 1st? Thanks |
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Jeremy2141 Regular Member
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They are required by law to issue the permit within 14 days. I would seriously look into calling and doing something about it. There are no excuses, they are REQUIRED to issue the permit within 14 days, PERIOD. I dont know how you go about getting them to issue it as required by law. Luckily, I live in NH, and my town PD issues it within a week. |
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BIKER CHICK Regular Member
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Hi! Just out of curiorsity have you ever applied for a permit in Vermont to carry? Just wondering how long it takes them and what it costs. My husband and I ride motorcycle through the England States a lot and want to be able to carry concealed whenever we travel. Looks like we have to check into CT and NY as well. I will try calling on Monday to NH, but from earlier posts I see that people said not to call because it will only delay everything more. |
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Jeremy2141 Regular Member
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It's really easy. You don't need a permit in Vermont. Show up with your firearms, open carry or concealed carry them! Last edited on Fri Jul 31st, 2009 11:52 pm by Jeremy2141 |
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BIKER CHICK Regular Member
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Hi! Thanks for the reply back and info. Have a nice weekend - probably see you back here next week. Lorie |
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FMCDH Regular Member
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Jeremy2141 wrote: It's really easy. You don't need a permit in Vermont. While this is true, they still have laws you need to be aware of and follow. Vermont is a default reciprocity state, but be aware of the few places you cant carry. Hit this site up for all the info and links you may need.... http://www.handgunlaw.us/ Just click on the state that you want info about. "Carry On!" |
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deepdiver Activist Member
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BIKER CHICK wrote: Hi Everyone. So if the application was sent in beginning of June with the $20 and doesn't get processed for three months, are they going to accept the $20 fee from that time or look to get the other $80 because of the Fee Increase July 1st? ThanksMailed application and $20 end of March. Check cleared July 23 Permit issued July 26 (a Sunday so they are working weekends) Postmark August 3 Rcvd August 6 No request for another $80 so they appear to be honoring based on postmark or receipt for the fee. |
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BIKER CHICK Regular Member
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Hi! Sorry that I never replied back, but wanted to say thanks for your update. We are just now hitting the 4th month waiting so hopefully we will hear something soon. I know that my husband is getting very impatient. |
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mvpel Regular Member
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deepdiver wrote: Mailed application and $20 end of March. They're still breaking the law, of course. Too bad the only penalty available costs the victims of their crime money to pursue. |
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Jeremy2141 Regular Member
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If anyone has sent in their carry permit and has the certified letter reciept, I would recommend they contact Penny Dean. You can do a google search and find her info quite easily. |
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BIKER CHICK Regular Member
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Hi! Do you have the phone number to the Police Department where the applications go in case we need to call. My husbands application was not sent certified and I know that if he doesn't hear something by the end of October he wants to try and call. Who knows if the applic. was even received. Thanks! |
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Jeremy2141 Regular Member
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Non resident applications to go the State Police Permits and Licensing Unit. Their phone number is (603) 271-3575. http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/contactus.html http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/ssb/permitslicensing/index.html |
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BIKER CHICK Regular Member
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Jeremy2141 wrote: Non resident applications to go the State Police Permits and Licensing Unit. Their phone number is (603) 271-3575. Thanks Jeremy. Appreciate the info. Lorie |
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virginiatuck Regular Member
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BIKER CHICK wrote: Hi! Do you have the phone number to the Police Department where the applications go in case we need to call. My husbands application was not sent certified and I know that if he doesn't hear something by the end of October he wants to try and call. Who knows if the applic. was even received. Thanks! Back when I was waiting for mine, they would not confirm whether my application had been received. They don't have any way of knowing whose applications they have received until they actually begin working on them. Your husband's application is most likely sitting in a BIG, unsorted pile. Your husband is either going to have to wait it out or request a writ of mandamus from a New Hampshire court. And the writ of mandamus is an untested avenue that has been mentioned on this forum, but to my knowledge nobody has tried it. |
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Jeremy2141 Regular Member
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If you have a certified mail reciept, I would seriously contact Penny Dean. She's very good on these issues. They are REQUIRED BY LAW to issue you this permit (or deny it in writing) within 14 days. There are no provisions for the department being to busy to issue or deny them in the law. |
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BIKER CHICK Regular Member
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Hi Everyone. Thanks for all the info. I'll share it with my husband and see what he wants to do. He was asking me last night that if and when they approve it he wondered if the starting date would be back in June when he applied or start when they process it. The thought of losing months gone by doesn't thrill him. |
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virginiatuck Regular Member
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BIKER CHICK wrote: Hi Everyone. Thanks for all the info. I'll share it with my husband and see what he wants to do. He was asking me last night that if and when they approve it he wondered if the starting date would be back in June when he applied or start when they process it. The thought of losing months gone by doesn't thrill him. Snipped from 159:6 License to Carry. (note: this law was modified during the last legislative session, but has not yet been updated on the nh.gov web site) "When required, license renewal shall take place within the month of the fourth anniversary of the license holder's date of birth following the date of issuance." You ought to receive the license by mail within 5 days of the date of issuance. Mine, for example, was issued on 27MAY2009 and expires 31OCT2013 because my birth date is in OCT. I received it in the mail, if I recall correctly, 31MAY2009 ( I posted the exact date earlier in this thread). I wonder if this rule means that if your birth date is earlier in the year than the date of issuance, that you could get up to an extra year on your license than someone whose birth date is later in the year than the date of issuance. For instance, if your birth date is 01JAN and your license is issued on 01FEB2009...your first "date of birth following the date of issuance" is 01JAN2010; the fourth anniversary from that date is 01JAN2014, so would the date of expiration be 31JAN2014? Or is the year of expiration *always* four years after the year of issuance no matter where the birth date falls? |
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virginiatuck Regular Member
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FYI: Section 159:6-e 159:6-e Violation. – Any person aggrieved by a violation of the licensing sections of this chapter by a licensing entity may petition the superior court of the county in which the alleged violation occurred for injunctive relief. The court shall give proceedings under this chapter priority on the court calendar. Such a petitioner may appear with or without counsel. The petition shall be deemed sufficient if it states facts constituting a violation of the licensing sections of this chapter by the licensing entity, and may be filed by the petitioner or the petitioner's counsel with the clerk of court or the justice. The clerk of court or any justice shall order service by copy of the petition on the licensing entity or a person employed by the entity. If the justice finds that time is of the essence, the justice may order notice by any reasonable means, and shall have authority to issue an order ex parte when the justice reasonably deems such an order necessary to insure compliance with the provisions of this chapter. |
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goinveg Opt-Out Member
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virginiatuck wrote: Snipped from 159:6 License to Carry. (note: this law was modified during the last legislative session, but has not yet been updated on the nh.gov web site) This is exactly the rule. Some local PDs have tried to issue a license that expired less than four years because of that scenario and got their figurative hands slapped. |
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