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DanM Regular Member 
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Currently, this is in the events thread for April 12th. As I mentioned elsewhere, I plan on putting in a lot of effort to inform as many media outlets as possible about this event. This park has an explicit, illegal "no weapons" statement on the park rules sign and Auburn Hills has a few ordinances which violate state preemption on gun regulation. Despite my efforts since last year with city officials, the ordinances are still in place so this event would be important for "highlighting awareness of illegal ordinances and signage". For whatever media that show up, it is my opinion that a healthy turnout of OC folks would be beneficial given that I will attempt my very best to maximize the publicity we receive. I think that the date for now should be "TBD upon getting X confirmed attendees open-carrying". "X" being the "magic" number to be considered a "healthy turnout". What do you think X should be? I think 8. What do you think? Once we have X confirmed OC'ers, we could set the date that is convenient for them, and I will alert as many media outlets as possible. If we're not getting X anytime soon, then we can still do the event, set a hard date, but I won't get crazy with trying to turn out as much media as possible. |
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dougwg Regular Member 
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Well we had around 75 in Warren last year. I'm IN! |
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HPC9 Regular Member
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I'd be in as well. |
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Michigander Regular Member 
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We already know I'm there.  |
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DanM Regular Member
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dougwg wrote: Well we had around 75 in Warren last year. I would hope for such a turnout. The Warren event had NINETEEN (19) OC'ers confirm attendance and four "possibles". Thanks, dougwg and HPC9. You put us at 6 confirmed so far. |
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Venator Regular Member 
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DanM wrote: dougwg wrote:Well we had around 75 in Warren last year. Yes but the newspaper had a piece a few days before and many people came because of that. You can try do do the same. If you can get a press release in before the event that would help greatly. |
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DanM Regular Member
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Venator wrote: Yes but the newspaper had a piece a few days before and many people came because of that. You can try do do the same. If you can get a press release in before the event that would help greatly. Thanks for that input, Brian. Do you have a good example of a press release that you can PM or email to me? I can modify to suit and start getting it out there. On the matter of timing of alerting the media, is there an optimum? I don't want to do it "too late", obviously, but is there also a "too soon"? Or, is it best to send press releases at the earliest opportunity, even if it is two or three weeks from an event? |
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ghostrider Regular Member 
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I doubt I'll be able to make an event on Easter. |
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Venator Regular Member
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DanM wrote: Thanks for that input, Brian. Do you have a good example of a press release that you can PM or email to me? I can modify to suit and start getting it out there. Hope this helps: I would say about 10 days before the event. Many papers and TV stations have community calanders on their sites and allow you to post stuff on them. I would contact the news directors of both print and TV, as well as posting in the calanders. I contacted the media via emails, but a phone call works wonders. Below are two releases I used for two differant events. Modify as you deem necessary. I would be happy to review your release if you like. I may be able to attend with the wife and kid. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Who: Michigan Open Carry (MOC) What: A Q&A session on the legality of the open carry of a handgun in Michigan and grand opening of Discerning Shootist. When: Saturday December 6th, at 2:00 PM Where: Discerning Shootist, 721 Woodmere Ave Traverse City, MI. Why: To educate the Public and Law Enforcement on the legality of Open carry of a handgun in Michigan. A joint event with Michigan Open Carry (MOC) and the proprietor of the Discerning Shootist is being held Saturday December 6th, at 2:00 PM at the Discerning Shootist a self defense retail store located at 721 Woodmere Ave Traverse City, MI.. This grand opening and informational event will feature a presentation on the legality of the open carry of a handgun in Michigan. Brian Jeffs will be the guest speaker from MOC. Mr. Jeffs has given several talks on this subject throughout the state. The proprietor of the Discerning Shootist will provide a BBQ luncheon. This event is open to anyone that wants to learn more about the lawful open carry of a handgun in Michigan and to check out the newest self-defense store in the area. This will be an informal and family friendly event that is open to the public. For information on this event contact XXXX at 231.932.1559 For media contact only: YOur name and number FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Host: Michigan Open Carry and The Coffee Beanery Where: The Coffee Beanery: 28557 Woodward Ave. Berkley, MI 248-336-9930 When: Sunday December 21st, at 1:00 PM Why: To share information on the legality of the open carry of a handgun in Michigan. A joint event between Michigan Open Carry (MOC) and the proprietor of The Coffee Beanery is being held Sunday December 21st, at 1:00 PM. A Presentation will be given by Brian Jeffs a contributing member of Michigan Open Carry (MOC). Mr. Jeffs has given talks throughout the state on the topic of open carry of a handgun. Members of MOC will be on hand to answer questions and share their experience on open carry. This event is open to anyone that wants to learn more about the lawful open carry of a handgun in Michigan. Anyone that can lawfully possess a handgun is encouraged, but not required to open carry while at the event. Literature on open carry will be available. This is an informal and family friendly event that is open to the public. For information on this event contact you contact here. Not for publication and for media contact only: YOUR NAME AND NUMBER HERE. Possible contacts. City/Metro desk: dfpcity@freepress.com XX 313-222-6600; fax: 313-222-5981 Name: Karen Smith Title: Editor - Mirror Newspapers Department: News - Community Editors Work phone: (248) 901-2592 E-Mail: ksmith@hometownlife.com XX Detroit News media contacts. http://www.mondotimes.com/1/world/us/22/1210 XX WDIV: http://www.clickondetroit.com/contact/index.html XX WJBK TV 2: http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/myfox/pages/InsideFox/ContactUs?pageId=5.11 XX WWJ TV 62 http://wwjtv.com/contact XX [size=WXYZ TV 7: talkback@wxyz.com ]XX |
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SpringerXDacp Regular Member 
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I'll try to be there |
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DanM Regular Member
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SpringerXDacp wrote elsewhere: There are 7 confirmed plus guests currently with two weeks to go. I'll change the date to TBA until further notice. A few confirmations came in recently and quickly. I feel confident the trend will put us into "healthy turnout" territory, so please keep the date at April 12th to minimize disruption. Thanks for your quick response. |
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DanM Regular Member
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Venator reminded me of two concerns about the April 12th date. It is Easter Sunday, and many folks may not be able to make it due to travel or other scheduled activities. Also, the weather during April can still turn cold and ugly unpredictably, which is a concern for outside events. I agree that these concerns are significant, so I'm going to change the date. In reviewing the other MOC events, and in keeping with the desire to keep events spaced apart by about three weeks and off of major holiday weekends if possible, the next good date is Sunday, July 12th. This event will be rescheduled to July 12th. I don't think there are significant concerns to that weekend, but please let me know if I'm missing something. |
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LaVere Regular Member 
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I'll be there maybe I can bring a few friends. Can you repeat time and location. |
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DanM Regular Member
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LaVere wrote: I'll be there maybe I can bring a few friends. Sunday, July 12th. Noon (12pm). Full info is in the "Michigan Events Schedule Thread" http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/15478.html PM SpringerXDacp that you are confirmed to attend this event with "+2" or "+3" or however many friends you are bringing. Thanks. Last edited on Mon Mar 30th, 2009 11:24 pm by DanM |
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Taurus850CIA Regular Member 
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Put me in as a possible. |
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DanM Regular Member
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Stand by for a date change on this event. The covered pavilion at the park, which I plan on renting for us, is booked out to the first Sunday in August. The Sundays in August the pavilion is currently available are the 9th, 16th, 23rd and 30th. We need guaranteed space to set-up, cook, eat, etc., so I'll pick one of those dates, starting with the earliest available when I get to the Rec dept offices. I need to know from the confirmed and possible folks, what dates above are out of the question for you if any. I'll give a couple of days to see your responses, and then go from there. The rental is $50, so please definitely say something about these dates, if you have something to say, because I would hate to rent it and a bunch of people who've signed up to attend can't show on the new date. Thanks! Dan |
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Venator Regular Member
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DanM wrote: Stand by for a date change on this event. The 9th is my birthday so that okay, if everyone buys me a gifts. The 16th is fine too. |
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mastiff69 Regular Member
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Better make it the 16th venator gifts cost to much, wish list is as follows new truck,car, ar15, round trip tickets to the playboy ranch HA!! HA!! |
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SpringerXDacp Regular Member
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Any Sunday in August is fine for me. |
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Jonny008 Regular Member 
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I'll probably come out. |
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DanM Regular Member
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Jonny008 wrote: I'll probably come out. Good to hear from you, Jonny. PM SpringerXDacp that you are "confirmed" or "possible" (whichever you feel applies) to attend this event. If you think you'll bring family or friends, add a "+1", "+2", or whatever the number is that plan on coming with you. |
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DanM Regular Member
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I've secured the pavilion reservation for Sunday, August 9th, so that is the date of this event. SpringerXDacp has been requested to update the event thread with that date. The good news is that I didn't have to pay the $50 pavilion rental like I thought I had too. Coincidentally, this is Venator's birthday and he's planning on being there. Along with the refreshments I signed up to bring, I'm bringing a birthday cake, too, if I get confirmation he has no change in plan the day before or day of. Come on out, whether your OC'ing or not, and let's sing Happy Birthday to him if he's there!  |
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Generaldet Regular Member 
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Put me and the wife down for possible. I will be attending a Pow-Wow in Mt. Pleasant on that weekend, but should be back in time. |
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AlwaysLearning Regular Member
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Count me in +1 |
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SpringerXDacp Regular Member
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TTT |
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SpringerXDacp Regular Member
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TTT This thread was buried in the 4th page  |
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astrogiblet Regular Member
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As I said on MGO.. I will be there.. |
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Generaldet Regular Member
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Put me down to be there for sure! I can bring napkins and utensils. |
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kidaquarius Regular Member 
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I will likely be there along with another OC buddy. My wife may also attend. Unsure on that thus far. |
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SpringerXDacp Regular Member
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TTT for this Sunday |
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astrogiblet Regular Member
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Guys its lookin like I'm having another tight week financially. Not sure that I'm going to be able to bring something to pass. Friggin unemployment just doesn't cut it anymore. The 40 minute drive each way is gonna be painful enough on the checkbook. Don't suppose anybody is coming from the Flint area that I could hitch a ride with? I'd pitch in some gas money AND I'd be able to bring a dish to pass... |
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astrogiblet Regular Member
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TTT |
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MrsRuger45 Regular Member 
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astrogiblet wrote: Guys its lookin like I'm having another tight week financially. Not sure that I'm going to be able to bring something to pass. Friggin unemployment just doesn't cut it anymore. The 40 minute drive each way is gonna be painful enough on the checkbook. I sent you a PM.  |
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Michigander Regular Member
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I'll be coming out on my mountain bike if the weather allows. (knocks on wood) |
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Michigander Regular Member
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Looks like a good day for riding.  I'm gonna try and stop on the way and find some sort of salad type of thing that can fit in my back pack. By the way, good to see that there is a car pool going from the Flint area. We really need to use car pooling more often.  Last edited on Sun Aug 9th, 2009 01:57 pm by Michigander |
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astrogiblet Regular Member
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Michigander wrote: Looks like a good day for riding. Heh, there actually isn't. Unfortunately we all have 2 seater cars and we need a 3 seater car, hah! |
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LaVere Regular Member
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SpringerXDacp wrote: TTT for this Sunday What does TTT mean ??? |
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pmcqueen37 Regular Member 
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Take it to the top, used when an article has no responses for a while and ends up on page 4 as in the case, by responding with TTT or bump it brings this back to the top of the first page. |
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astrogiblet Regular Member
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TTT is technically "to the top" since its only 3 t's, but I won't correct ya on that... or will I?  This picnic was awesome, as usual! |
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DanM Regular Member
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Thanks, everyone who braved the hot, humid weather. There were some faces I know and some new folks I got the pleasure to meet. The big surprise of the picnic (at least for me) was Jim Simmons being there and hanging out for a good while! |
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Michigander Regular Member
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It really was a surprise to see Jim Simmons there. I was nearly shocked to find out that he had come out. After all the OC bad mouthing he's done, he made THAT far of a drive to come visit with us, and answer legal questions. A big thanks to him. I did indeed ride my mountain bike each way. I OC'd for part of the ride there, and none of the ride back. There were 2 reasons for CCing on parts of the ride. First, that in some areas I'll chose not to name, I don't know that I trust the police, and additionally, I was riding on the sidewalk, and there are often local ordinances against that. I'm really only comfortable OCing while riding when I KNOW I'm obeying all traffic laws. The other part of it is that I bolted my mag pouch down so it won't move, and it digs into my waist while riding with the particular back pack I brought today. The solution I have for that is that I'm going to mount a holster to that back pack. Last edited on Sun Aug 9th, 2009 11:27 pm by Michigander |
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Generaldet Regular Member
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Thanks Dan had a great time today! Good to see everyone out there. |
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astrogiblet Regular Member
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What happened to Mr. and Mrs. Ruger??? Hope everything is OK with you guys? Was looking forward to meeting ya'll today but I guess we're gonna have to wait until Burton.  |
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ruger45 Regular Member 
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astrogiblet wrote: What happened to Mr. and Mrs. Ruger??? Sorry we missed the picnic. We hope everything went good. We were up until 6am with our pregnant cat. She delivered 8 kittens. We went to bed & didn't get up until early afternoon. In 8 weeks if anyone would like a kitten, please let us know! |
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Generaldet Regular Member
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 Oh no I better not let the wife see this, that last thing I need is another damn cat!!!!!!!!! lol Congrats on being a grandfather?......... lol Hope you find a good home for them. |
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ruger45 Regular Member
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Generaldet wrote:
mrsruger already told your wife that our cat was pregnant & she said she would probably take one & will come look at them & see which one she thinks is cute. See you in about 8 weeks. LOL |
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Dmo8361 Regular Member 
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It was good to get out and meet some more new faces. Thanks to all that came out. |
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