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OpenCarry.org - Discussion Forum > Stories From The States > Florida > Where Is The Hard-Core Gun Crowd In Florida?
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| OpenCarry.org - Discussion Forum > Stories From The States > Florida > Where Is The Hard-Core Gun Crowd In Florida?
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smoking357 Banned 
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I'm looking for the real gun crowd, the take-no-ship, 10th Amendment, Constitutionalist, open-carry, survivalist types I find back in Kentucky, Tennessee, Montana, Idaho, Alaska, etc. I'm not looking for city-boys who only want a gun so they can stick it down their pants and walk around Wal-Mart while they wear their wife's underwear in what has to be the gayest firearm practice I've ever heard of. I'm not finding that hard-core gun element in Central-to-South Florida. If this crowd exists that far South, I haven't seen them or their stores. Do the folks I'm seeking even exist in Florida? I guess you can't "head for the hills" if there are no hills. How about Jax, Tally, the Panhandle? |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member 
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smoking357 wrote: I'm looking for the real gun crowd, the take-no-ship, 10th Amendment, Constitutionalist, open-carry, survivalist types I find back in Kentucky, Tennessee, Montana, Idaho, Alaska, etc. Open carry (OC) is not legal in Florida so it is not likely that you would "see" anyone so inclined. Yata hey |
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BB62 State Researcher
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Grapeshot wrote: smoking357 wrote:I'm looking for the real gun crowd, the take-no-ship, 10th Amendment, Constitutionalist, open-carry, survivalist types I find back in Kentucky, Tennessee, Montana, Idaho, Alaska, etc. Yep, Florida has essentially no state constitutional right to keep and bear arms any more - all Floridians are left with is privileges granted by their masters. Besides, a privilege to CC is much better! I suggest you pose your question to these groups, as they might be able to hook you up, or help you form such a group: http://www.nrawol.net/links.html Last edited on Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 05:11 am by BB62 |
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timf343 Campaign Veteran 
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My wife and I will be moving down from NH soon (next month). Not looking forward to HAVING to conceal, plus I don't have a FL permit, so with the 60 day+ backlog, I may just be forced to temporarily choose between being unarmed or becoming a criminal. Anyway, since my purpose for OC is dual purpose (to protect myself and to educate), I might just have some t-shirts printed up. Though I must conceal my weapon from view, I don't think I'm required to conceal my weapon from "awareness", right? Can I wear a shirt saying I'm armed? |
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smoking357 Banned
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Dtimf343 wrote: My wife and I will be moving down from NH soon (next month). Not looking forward to HAVING to conceal, plus I don't have a FL permit, so with the 60 day+ backlog, I may just be forced to temporarily choose between being unarmed or becoming a criminal.Dude, you rule. Great f-ing idea. Let's crank up RKBA advocacy and awareness. Careful, though, the pretend RKBA friends at floridaconcealedcarry.com will contact their politicians and cops and complain about you. They're not into firearm rights; they're only into having their hall passes so they can feel "special" and walk through Wal-Mart with a gun in their panties. Stay in NH. It's cleaner, nicer and feels more like America. Long term, you'll be happier there. Florida feels like Southern New York with all the accents. Some people have guns, but they don't get so far into it as to make Bubby feel uncomfortable. Here are some draft slogans: The Law Says My Gun Has to Be Concealed
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tracylaud83 Regular Member 
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I'll buy 2 if under $15.00 each Any of these slogans would work...... Just don't make them pink..... Last edited on Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 05:11 pm by tracylaud83 |
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timf343 Campaign Veteran
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Looks like someone had this idea for Texas: http://www.zazzle.com/texas_concealed_carry_2_yes_i_am_tshirt-235974956335065349 You can customize the T-Shirt to whatever you want, or make your own from scratch. There is a comment saying that (at least in Texas) wearing this shirt would result in you being charged with failing to conceal. |
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DrTodd Regular Member 
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You could purchase one of these shirts too. http://www.coated.com/duck-huntin-t-shirt/ |
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fridaddy Regular Member
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Smoking, Check out everglades city. There are some interesting characters there. |
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Eagle Eye Regular Member 
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Smoking357 I've read a large number of your posts and I agree with a lot of what you have to say. There are however a couple items of interest I would like to address. One you do not list where you are located. It's not a big deal just an observation. It has little bearing on your platitudes but still a significant one. Folks on here have labeled you as a troll but I welcome a good discussion, emphasis on good. You do make you points in a very condescending way. Your enthusiasm is very commendable as all of us should be reaching for that ultimate goal of being able to carry any way we wish as long as we are responsible and respectful to all those around us. We don't not have a "constitutional right" to not be offended. It would be a great asset to us all to use your energy in a more positive manner to educate all folks in what we all strive to do. That includes folks on these forums and their ideas. I for one have learned a lot of very useful information from people and links to state statutes. I have gone to other states and open carried and like the fact that I could carry that way. Obviously we are limited in ways to carry in other places due to the "anti's" passing laws. But I believe with you energy and enthusiasm we all could get something going in Florida. It was said in the past "United we stand divided we fall". I for one will support a righteous idea as long as it is legal. We have a a duty to elect people to government which upholds the laws or is willing to introduce and follow through with those bills. That's a whole other issue though. <rant off> I commend you for your efforts but I also remember what mama used to say. "It's not what you say it's how you say it" and that is the the key to opening people's ears, minds and hearts. Keep up the effort but also walk softly and carry a big stick. |
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hammer6 Regular Member 
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smoking357 wrote: I'm looking for the real gun crowd, the take-no-ship, 10th Amendment, Constitutionalist, open-carry, survivalist types I find back in Kentucky, Tennessee, Montana, Idaho, Alaska, etc. have you been to wal-mart lately? |
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smoking357 Banned
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Eagle Eye wrote: I commend you for your efforts but I also remember what mama used to say. "It's not what you say it's how you say it" Outside of jovial banter, I've never agreed with that. For words that matter, It's always what you say. While Momma is great, women listen in tones. |
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BB62 State Researcher
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Eagle Eye wrote: Smoking357 I've read a large number of your posts and I agree with a lot of what you have to say. There are however a couple items of interest I would like to address... One suggestion - paragraphs. |
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smoking357 Banned
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BB62 wrote: Eagle Eye wrote:Smoking357 I've read a large number of your posts and I agree with a lot of what you have to say. There are however a couple items of interest I would like to address... Indeed, you are correct, but if they bemoan condescension in my laconic informational nuggets, they'll plead high complaint if my prose becomes yet more formal. You, obviously, are cut from finer cloth. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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smoking357 wrote: BB62 wrote:Eagle Eye wrote:Smoking357 I've read a large number of your posts and I agree with a lot of what you have to say. There are however a couple items of interest I would like to address... It is less to do with that in which we cloak ourselves and more pertaining to the quality of our humble musings. So speak up brother, don't mumble.  Yata hey Last edited on Wed Apr 8th, 2009 04:38 pm by Grapeshot |
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sprat Regular Member 
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He still won't tell you where in Florida he lives, this guy is a clown he has been banned from other sites, watch who you suck up to and be very leary of his advise he has been asked on other sites as to his residence and still refuses to answer, he is a fraud enough said sprat |
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smoking357 Banned
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sprat wrote:He still won't tell you where in Florida he lives, this guy is a clown he has been banned from other sites, watch who you suck up to and be very leary of his advise Learn how to spell, Sarah. Why do you anti-gunners waste your time spreading disinformation here? No, thanks, Sarah. I'll choose Freedom, Liberty, and the Second Amendment, and I'll continue to defend gun rights, despite the lies of your anti-gun front group. Sprat goes 'splat'...again. |
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starbuck Regular Member
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sprat wrote:
I'm not going to tell you where I live either. Am I a fraud as well? While I don't agree with everything he says, I find his "kick in the ass" rhetoric to stir people from complacency to be commendable. |
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starbuck Regular Member
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timf343 wrote: My wife and I will be moving down from NH soon (next month). Not looking forward to HAVING to conceal, plus I don't have a FL permit, so with the 60 day+ backlog, I may just be forced to temporarily choose between being unarmed or becoming a criminal. What is bringing you down here? Other than not being arctic, I can't imagine Florida being a better place to live than NH. |
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timf343 Campaign Veteran
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Asking myself the same question, the more I read and research Looks like my wife wants to go back to Nevada after all, so Florida gets put on hold for now. |
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BangBang Regular Member
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timf343.... you know, if you spent a bit more time researching and not complaining you would find that Florida offers their CCW permit to anyone, regardless of where you live. Of course, you would have to qualify. Is that the problem for you? If you are really as concerned as you say over maybe having to wait for your permit you would apply for it now and then the most you would have to do when you arrived would be to request a change of address. |
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timf343 Campaign Veteran
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OK thanks for the advice. |
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starbuck Regular Member
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BangBang wrote: timf343.... you know, if you spent a bit more time researching and not complaining you would find that Florida offers their CCW permit to anyone, regardless of where you live. Of course, you would have to qualify. Is that the problem for you? If they ever get around to processing the app and sending the license. Luckily, I got mine years ago, way before any of this rush started. When I visited Washington a few months ago, I applied for CPL there. It took 20 minutes, in person. No training requirements, no photographs, just fill out a one page application, and get fingerprinted. Two weeks later, I had my WA CPL in my mailbox, here in Florida. The only measurable advantage Florida's CCW has over other Shall-Issue states is the reciprocity. No one can argue that one. tim- Have you considered WA? |
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brian james Regular Member 
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We are here, however because of the current laws and the overall climate of leftist agenda i.e. the media. I personally stay somewhat quiet. There is no point in arguing with idiots, or trained victems. We are here and we support you and all that are like minded. Stay free! This country is the love of my life and it is because of people like us that it still is. MILITIA!!!!! TRUE AMERICIANS will fight and die to keep America free for our children and future generations . We are here ,We are strong, But we are not loud enough!!!!!!!!!!! SPEAK LOUDLY AND DON'T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!!!!!!!!! |
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brian james Regular Member
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there are plenty of us. more than you think. just remember that to survive you must first seek cover.....in a firefight or a political battle. never show all of your assets untill necissary |
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onetuza Regular Member
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I for one believe there should be no gun laws, that's right, no gun laws. I believe in the Constitution.  What part of "shall not be infringed." is confusing?? I am surprised at such little interest or leadership in Florida regarding Open Carry. |
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smoking357 Banned
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onetuza wrote: I for one believe there should be no gun laws, that's right, no gun laws. I believe in the Constitution. So was I. I've been cogitating upon this matter for many months, now, and I've discovered that its' reducible to this: Floridian gun owners are cut from that rightish cloth that is absolutely enamoured with governmental authority. Think Sean Hannity. They hold governmental authority in higher regard than their own Liberty, believing that "law and order" is somehow desirable. Floridians aren't taught down here that government is never to be trusted and that it needs to be put in its place, from time to time, by freemen. Floridians are taught to obey authority, not sneer at it. Such foundational obedient beliefs do not produce a population that stands up and demands that government quit intruding into areas it doesn't belong. Florida gun owners would likely despise anyone who filed a suit against the government seeking to restore OC. Their mentality is bizarre and self-defeating. |
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ADulay Regular Member 
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smoking357 wrote: I'm looking for the real gun crowd, the take-no-ship, 10th Amendment, Constitutionalist, open-carry, survivalist types I find back in Kentucky, Tennessee, Montana, Idaho, Alaska, etc. Well, with the original posting date of "April 1st" I'm finding that this thread can only be some sort of bait to suck in unsuspecting readers like myself.  I'm thinking that the romantic notion of the survilvalist is merely a picture in somebody's mind and the REAL "survivalists" are quitely living their lives, PREPARED for the worst, but dealing with daily life sort of incognito. Me? Of course I believe I'm prepared and I can point to many others that I see on a daily basis who wouldn't warrant a second look, that are doing more than wandering around Wal-Mart with a pocket gun. There are times for display and times for discretion. Although I carry every day and would appreciate the ability to open carry, it just isn't going to happen in Florida partly because it appears to be written into the coding of the Concealed Weapons laws. Sad but true. Kind of a trade off of sorts. With that said, I'll continue to read the various threads here, try not to get sucked into too many inane conversations and help out where I can (Ohio and Penna forums have several helpful messages to and from me). Hang in there and when it all falls apart, I think you'll be surprised who comes out of the woodwork to be a "survivalist". AD (I used to be somebody, now I'm just another retired guy) |
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ixtow Founder's Club Member
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The uncompromising are leaving... as soon as we can scrape enough together in the midst of the endless extortions of this state... |
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smoking357 Banned
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ixtow wrote: The uncompromising are leaving... as soon as we can scrape enough together in the midst of the endless extortions of this state... Florida is experiencing a population exodus. |
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