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OpenCarry.org - Discussion Forum > Stories From The States > New Mexico > Positive encounter with Dona Ana Cnty Deputy
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| OpenCarry.org - Discussion Forum > Stories From The States > New Mexico > Positive encounter with Dona Ana Cnty Deputy
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desert-prospector Regular Member 
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Thought with all the negative about LEOs I'd throw in an encounter I recently had. I live on a road south of LC, we have a lot of idiots who like to race up and down the road, so I had my wife call the Sheriffs office (told her to say that we have young children and they might get hurt). It was the fastest response I have ever seen, 15 minutes, 4 patrol cars and 6 Deputies. The Deputy that came to the door was very respectful (looked and carried himself like a young man just back from Iraq) talked with him for a moment about the idiots, the whole time he keeps glancing at my right side. As we are talking another one approaches and I can see him un-snap as he walks up. The first one is still at ease and proceeds to ask "Mind if I ask what you do for a living?" I respond "Why do you ask?" Deputy; "I noticed you're wearing a weapon and was curious if you might be private security or something." Myself; "Nope just a stay at home Dad." Deputy; "May I ask why you're wearing a gun?" Myself; "It's personal." Deputy; "Oh, ok." They departed, one cruiser parked across the road, lights out and 10 minutes later a car goes by him, he pursues and 5 cruisers stop the car 2 blocks down. They end up arresting 4 punks, search the car with dogs and tow the car. Haven't seen that car out here since and we now have Deputies patrolling at least once a day. |
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Desert Dweller Regular Member
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Law enforcement education is a top priority with me, I would like to think that those entrusted with enforcing our laws are on our side, unfortunately many of the stories, and my one encounter here lead me to believe that is often not the case. Two years ago here in Alamogordo, I was getting gas at Lowes, and I was briefly questioned by DPS, seemed like it was going to end badly, but after making a radio call, he came back and informed me that I was right and he was wrong. The event ended on a good note, even if he did seem to not like the fact that I was allowed to openly carry a firearm just as he was, but it aggravates me that they are ignorant of the law, and many seem to have a superiority complex (not real prevalent in Alamogordo). |
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Desert Dweller Regular Member
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MousePrifeII wrote: wow great job, you got a bunch of kids arrested for a bunch of victimless crimes and probably ruined their life! I'm sure you wouldn't mind if someone returned the favor if you ever broke a firearms law accidentally or otherwise.The law is the law, walking into a store that sells alcohol with an openly carried firearm is "a victimless" crime as well, but it will net you a fourth degree felony. Also, how long until these idiots did hurt someone, you don't always have to wait until someone is hurt or killed to enforce "THE LAW". This rates as just about the most asinine reply I have ever seen. |
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Desert Dweller Regular Member
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Big difference there Hoss, when carrying my pistol, I am not breaking the law, however racing up and down someones street is against the law. I suppose you figure you shouldn't be arrested for drunk driving either, unless you hurt someone and create a victim? You are free to go and spam elsewhere now, I'll say no more, you aren't worthy of my time. |
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Desert Dweller Regular Member
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OK, I'll go back on my word here. Racing a car/truck/motorcycle/quad, is not a right protected by the constitution, carrying my pistol for my personal protection is. There are places set aside for racing, in a controlled environment, much like I shoot in areas away from people's houses, most of the time I shoot at an established range, bottom line, they are infringing on my rights, they put myself and my family in danger with their actions, much the same if I were to stand in the middle of my road and start shooting. The government grants people the right to drive, and there are established guidelines, if you do not like them, contact your local representative and start the process to change them. Keeping and bearing arms is pre-existing right that was merely guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment to the Bill of Rights, what that means is that the government recognizes that I already have this right as a free man, and that they cannot take it from me, I don't think you will find driving/racing in there. Try actually reading the entire Constitution and Bill of Rights, then delve into the writings of the men who actually drafted the documents, read the Federalist Papers, you might get educated, shoot, you might even come to the realization just how unconstitutional our government has become, much of it in the last 6 months. |
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Jizzzle Regular Member 
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i just wanna chime in here if i may. "racing" up and down a residential street is irresponsible. if the street was not residential and was off in the middle of nowhere the only person the racer would be hurting is himself. And then it would be a victimless crime. this has nothing to do with the constitution or otherwise. this has to do with being responsible. if you wanna break the speed limit find a place for it. they are everywhere. |
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desert-prospector Regular Member
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MousePrifeII wrote: wow great job, you got a bunch of kids arrested for a bunch of victimless crimes and probably ruined their life! I'm sure you wouldn't mind if someone returned the favor if you ever broke a firearms law accidentally or otherwise. These "kids" are between ages of 16 and 24, they were arrested for drug possession, they were stopped for speeding and reckless driving! It is better that they were stopped by the Deputies, 'cause if any one of them would have harmed my sons, well I would have had a large hole to dig and I don't like to dig, the grounds rather hard here! |
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HungSquirrel Regular Member
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The only real crimes are acts which cause harm to others or place others in immediate danger of harm. Racing down a public highway far beyond the speed limit puts other motorists/pedestrians in immediate danger of harm. |
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zigziggityzoo Campaign Veteran 
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MousePrifeII wrote:yea drug possession. what a horrible "crime" Yes, I agree with that. But you're just trolling more. Dangerous driving has a time and a place. That place is not in a residential neighborhood. Try a long, country road with nothing but fields on either side. Or maybe a dragway. If I want to go shooting, I don't just go to the backyard where I have 1/4 acre and other houses around. I go to my parents, where they have 1500 open acres in their backyard. Or to the gun range. Yeah, reckless driving is a crime, and if the only person you're endangering is yourself, have at it. But you're endangering others when you do it in a residential neighborhood. |
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Desert Dweller Regular Member
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In over 35 years of shooting, I have never witnessed a gun "just go off", it takes some action on the part of the operator. Nice try troll. |
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Edit Last edited on Tue Apr 14th, 2009 08:49 pm by fighting_for_freedom |
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Edit Last edited on Tue Apr 14th, 2009 08:49 pm by fighting_for_freedom |
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fighting_for_freedom Regular Member
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Correction: I know the law, and I know how to apply it. My father was a cop, my brother is a cop, and I'm looking at joining law enforcement. Hit and run is a crime, and as they hit my car and then took off again, they committed a crime. Possession of narcotics is a crime, and while I personally believe that marijuana is a harmless drug, the other, heavier drugs aren't so harmless. As they sped down my street every day, I couldn't just sit by and let them kill somebody. Freedom, per the Constitution, is in regards to our enumerated rights. If you want speeding and possession of narcotics to be a right, then get it added on. A freedom must not encroach upon another's freedom, such as the right to self-preservation. As others here have stated, if they wanted to drag race then they could've done it on a track or a back road. I fight for Constitutional freedoms. I don't give a damn about anything else. If somebody is endandering my family, they are encroaching upond my Constitutional rights. Should I just wait until they kill somebody? Think again. Edit: 45 in a 25 is speeding. 80 in a 25 is just downright careless and dangerous. I don't really care about speeding. It's when it becomes a threat to human life that I become concerned. Last edited on Tue Apr 14th, 2009 08:38 pm by fighting_for_freedom |
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fighting_for_freedom Regular Member
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Unfortunately for you, neither of the situations you presented create a viable danger for my family. It's not until a reasonable action is committed that it may become a danger. And I have never shot at anybody, nor do I ever want to have to. I use the least amount of force necessary to negate a threat. There are times I've simply told a person to stop whatever it was they were doing. I'd already tried stopping the punks that were speeding to talk to them. Didn't work - they almost ran me over. So we're all supposed to sit back and let the world walk all over us? I prefer to leave people alone. But when their coming dangerously close to killing somebody, I cannot in all good concience sit back and watch. |
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fighting_for_freedom Regular Member
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Reasonable judgement is the key here. If I was walking around with my pistol in my hand, I wouldn't blame somebody who held me at gunpoint and removed my weapon. But some people just can't reason. And let me guess: You'd rather we had no cops, right? |
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