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I see a little bit of military talk in here and I was just wondering how many of you are fellow veterans...what branch, MOS, combat, ect.

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CPL. - Machinegunner w/ Kilo Co. WPNS/2nd PLT 3rd Battalion 7th Marines 1st Mar Div, stationed in Beautiful 29 Palms CA

Served 21 Aug 2001-2005

Iraq '03 (OIF I) and '04 (OIF II)


http://www.semperkilo.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Dunham
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_Battalion_7th_Marines

 

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US Navy - Yeoman - USS Belleau Wood LHA 3



and USS Fox CG 33



Left the Navy in 1993

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U.S.M.C 20 years Combat vet 2/5 An-Hoa-
0341 1968-Recon 1970 1st Recon Battalion,0321 MOS, Company C , 1st Squad
RVN Jan 1968- Oct.1970
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U.S.Army 15R apache crew chief, fort hood texas, Illishiem germany. served Iraq 70-09, Afghanistan 05-06

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April Fools Day 2002 - April Fools Day 2010 (Yes, I enlisted on April Fools Day) :X

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where in Iraq are you. I was in Taji and B.I.A.P., striker, victory

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US NAVY  Aviation Ordnanceman  (AO NEC(s) 83XX (multiple), 8202, 8271) / Air Warfare Specialist / Aircrewman

'60 - '74 (broken active service) '78 - '83

Combat: 2 x 'Nam tours ('65, '71 - '72) 1 x Lebanon ('82 - 83)

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I can't thank you enough for your service folks.

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20 years Active Duty U.S. Air Force 1982 - 2002

7 years Department of the Air Force Civilian 2002 - Present

1982 - 1985, Loring AFB, ME

1985 - 1988, Edwards AFB, CA

1988 - 1991, Clark AB, Republic of the Philippines

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USMC....1959/1963....Military Police/ Guard.

Was on USS Spiegle Grove LSD 32 during the Cuban/Russian standoff. 

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USN 64-68 Photographer 2nd class

RVAH-7 and RVAH-6  deployed abd Ranger, Constelation, and Enterprise in the waters off the coast of Vietnam from 65 to 68. Constitutes 4 tours at that time.

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buzzsaw wrote: USN 64-68 Photographer 2nd class

RVAH-7 and RVAH-6  deployed abd Ranger, Constelation, and Enterprise in the waters off the coast of Vietnam from 65 to 68. Constitutes 4 tours at that time.

I was in VAH-7 (AOAN/AO3) outta Sanford, '62-'64 deployed Enterprise from NOB NORVA.  'Made 2 Meds 'n Operation Sea Orbit in '64.  A3J-1's which became A-5A's.

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I'm in Texas but...

1/506th Air Assault in Korea 2002-2003

2/5 Cav, !st Cav Div 2003-2004, Fort Hood and Sadr city Iraq, wounded with a bullet in the head and retired.

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Air Force

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2W051 - Munitions

Last stationed at RAF Fairford, England
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Jan 2005 - July 2008


July 27 2004 - July 27 2008

IYAAYAS!!!!

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Army '66-72. Drafted in the beginning and stayed another 4 just for kicks.

Radio Operator, 05B, (morse code type) and 05B4H instructor. Also served a short time as a Drill Instructor 00F.

Bounced back and forth between PFC and Sgt (E-5) for the whole period.

Did I mention I had a good time! ;)

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keninaz wrote: Army '66-72. Drafted in the beginning and stayed another 4 just for kicks.

Radio Operator, 05B, (morse code type) and 05B4H instructor. Also served a short time as a Drill Instructor 00F.

Bounced back and forth between PFC and Sgt (E-5) for the whole period.

Did I mention I had a good time! ;)


The bounce sort of implied you had a good time. I'm glad you did as that was not a fun time for many.

Enjoy  :celebrate

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I had good duty until I took that extra 4 years. They were not the greatest.

What I referred to about a good time was hell raising. I bounced back and forth in rank many times via punishment for not following all the rules to the letter.

 

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keninaz wrote: What I referred to about a good time was hell raising. I bounced back and forth in rank many times via punishment for not following all the rules to the letter.

 


That's the way I read it.

As I said: Enjoy  :celebrate while we still can.

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Seems I am not alone on following all orders lol. I left the Corps as a Gunny, but was a Master Gunny for 3 years till a boot 2nd luey wanted me and my squad to walk into a box canyon. It never happened and I lost my rank, but saved my men!
S/F Vic

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special forces, to many combat tours to remember.... yea i know things but i cant talk about it

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You had to blow off steam or the stress would get to you, if you know what I mean.

And most that served, particularly in the Army and the Marines know much more than they could ever tell anyone about other than another vet.

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r6-rider wrote:
special forces, to many combat tours to remember.... yea i know things but i cant talk about it


R6 I was in Recon in the Corps, I can now talk because of the years, if you ever need an ear give me a yell.
S/F Vic

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lol i was just playing. im just your basic infantryman nothing more nothing less. the job sucks enough as it is (but in a good way) i wouldnt want to suck like SF does. not right now anyways maybe down the road when my PT score is 350 and i develop an immunity to bugs

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I assume you were Army since Marines grunts 0311 are really the backbone of the Corps. Never underestimate the basic in grunt in the Army they get all the
the as the Corps, all the rough work. I worked with Seals and S.F. and Rangers in combo ops. Yet that is many moons ago. Stay safe and always be proud.
S/F Vic

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And, like they told us in Basic Training in the 60's anyway~~

"It doesn't matter what your MOS will be after you leave here. It does not matter that you signed up for driver or artillery or whatever. What matters is the basic combat training you are getting here. You will always be a basic infantryman and never forget that fact. You will always be a 11B and remember the skills you learned here as you may just need them as we are at war."

Words to live by and I must assume that the Marines are the same way.

 

 

 

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Right on the money every Marine is first and upmost a rifleman or Grunt first
Regardless of there MOS.
S/F Vic

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and now days it really doesnt matter what you are cause everyone who joins is going to see combat. hell, i just read an article about a human resources guy that got blown up by an IED

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It did not matter in RVN either.

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Welcome Home to all our brothers in combat, something that was miss when we were in the Nam.
S/F Vic

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US Navy, 10/1972-08/1980, Data Processing Tech, PO1 (E-6)

I was one of the first females to be stationed aboard ship: USS L Y Spear, AS-36



The one major assignment we received was in 1980 to Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean, when those 50 hostages were being held in Iran. We were supply and repair for the subs and fast frigates that were in the Persian Gulf.  100 gals, 1200 guys, plus all the guys stationed on DG - which was isolated duty for them. ...still only 100 of 'us'...

I was also with the Master-at-Arms during my final months. Best buddies were the Seals - a bit wild and crazy, but true-hearted. They were like brothers to me. My partner with the MAA had at one time been a Seal.

(Unfortunately, the Navy is still trying to decide what uniforms their members will wear. :banghead:)

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Hot Rod good to see a brother, I was in a bit before you went to P.I. in 67 Plt 2001. In 1st Force what Company and squad were you with, we may have some of the same friends we served together with,
S/F Vic

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r6-rider wrote: and now days it really doesnt matter what you are cause everyone who joins is going to see combat.

Oh yeah?  I have been in Iraq since November, and have not seen any combat.  :P

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r6-rider wrote: special forces, to many combat tours to remember.... yea i know things but i cant talk about it


R6,

In other posts you indicate you are 18 and open carrying all over town etc.

Now you say you are in Special Forces?

What unit are you in and when did you join?

I am ex Navy but have too much respect for Special Forces or any other vetran to allow this to go unchallenged.

If I am wrong I opologize right now but I believe the other men in this group need a bit more info from you.

 

 

 

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r6-rider wrote: lol i was just playing. im just your basic infantryman nothing more nothing less. the job sucks enough as it is (but in a good way) i wouldnt want to suck like SF does. not right now anyways maybe down the road when my PT score is 350 and i develop an immunity to bugs

...Lets leave it at that TOF....

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SGT Jensen wrote: Oh yeah?  I have been in Iraq since November, and have not seen any combat.  :P



My Bud just got back from Iraq in Dec (Weapons Co, 3/7)...frm the Syrian border area where we had deployed to in '04. Back then we hit an IED or ambush every other time we left the wire. This last time they didnt see @#$%.

Heard a lot of the heavy fighting is in Afghanistan now....I know some guys who checked into 2/7 after they got back in the spring frm Afghanistan, and I guess the BN got hit pretty hard over there...

At least in the Marines I know you'll see sumptin eventually, got friends that went into Liberia (2nd FAST Co I think), another friend that went into Haiti (STA 3/8). Got some buds now frm Eco Co 2/4 shipping out soon to go fight those Somali Pirates (or so they say).
 

Guess it depends on how long you stay in...


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He already explained above that he was joking about Special Forces.

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lol i was just playing. im just your basic infantryman nothing more nothing less. the job sucks enough as it is (but in a good way) i wouldnt want to suck like SF does. not right now anyways maybe down the road when my PT score is 350 and i develop an immunity to bugs

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I saw that correction, my concern is whether he is in any army or just a kid that wants to be. As indicated earlier, I am well aware my concern may be unfounded. He could be in the reserve, guard or some other branch. I would simply like to know which.

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army national guard. i enlisted at 17, would you care to know what day i signed the paper?

but really though i am just a kid who wants to be in the army, national guard isnt cutting it for me i just went this route so i can go to school and have promotion points later when i join the regular army.

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r6-rider wrote: army national guard. i enlisted at 17, would you care to know what day i signed the paper?

but really though i am just a kid who wants to be in the army, national guard isnt cutting it for me i just went this route so i can go to school and have promotion points later when i join the regular army.


Thank you r6,

It sounds like you have started down a good path.

I quite frankly didn't want to ask the question but simply had to do so. I hope you can understand.

For what it's worth, I now accept that you are a US Service man.

Thank you for your service.

When the time comes keep your head and butt down and eyes open.

 

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all good. unfortunately i still cannot say im a veteran but rumor has it (again) that we're set for Afghanistan. so hopefully we'll start mobilizing around october or november

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R-6 as TOF said you are good to go, I hope you don't see combat ever, but get all the training you can if you feel you will be going oversea's.
S/F Vic

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Gotta re-iterate on this point.

During my time in the Desert on Active Duty (Desert Storm and Desert Shield), I was fortunate enough to avoid seeing combat, or anything combat related.

I wasn't so fortunate in Iraq as a civi. I spent 4 years there from 2003 to 2007 and I saw a lot of good friends hurt/killed due to everything from IEDs to random gunfire.

Only one person I know directly was ever killed by direct fire - and he was a medic rushing to the aid of another during a firefight at Abu Ghraib prison.
 
I hope you don't have to feel that pain of loss, or the experience of being shot at in the first place.

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r6-rider wrote: all good. unfortunately i still cannot say im a veteran but rumor has it (again) that we're set for Afghanistan. so hopefully we'll start mobilizing around october or november
There are two types of veteran.
  1. Combat - those who have served in an active theater and seen or been near combat.
  2. Non-combat - those who have performed a term of military service.
Both have equal stature in my eyes. Both have the possibility of being heroes. Both have given up much of themselves and their individual freedoms in service to their country.

All give some. Some give all.

And I say that both have the possibility of being heroes because not every veteran has or even had honorable service. Even if they were discharged honorably.

Think Lindy Englund, and you'll know where I'm coming from.

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For those that served in actually combat they will receive a ribbon and it will be on your DD-214.In the Nam I think almost all have seen some combat, though I was never south of DaNang. I would say I encountered a firefight more as a 0341 then I did as a 0321. Any one there in 1968 around the Arizona Territory?
S/F. Vic

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Question on ribbons - I received one in 1991 for enlisting during a period when the US was at war.  I sent it to my father who promptly 'lost it'.  Do they re-issue them if they are lost?

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You can order nearly any ribbon online, as long as you remember which one it was.  :P

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Only 'ribbon' for combat (NAVY/MARCORPS) is the Combat Action Ribbon.  It's blue/gold/red with a thin red/white/blue stripe in the center.  There is no pendant 'medal' attached.  The CAR is not issued to those 'in the combat zone'... you have to have been 'shot at'.  Now... if you're aircrew... you get shot at 'n that don't count.  You have the Air Medal... (maybe) but if you're a passenger (as in a helo)... and get shot at... (even if you get to shoot back) you get neither. You have to be on the ground or aboard ship.  This is typical dubble-think.  As for the 'maybe' on the Air medal... you haft'a go get shot at 3 times (Strike Flights) to earn one. If some dink lobs one in your direction... even remotely... you can pick up a CAR.

Combat Infantrymen Badge I b'lieve was 30 days in the bush.  I proposed somethin' similar for NAVY/MARCORPS.  Navy was a silver cutlass on a blue field with a silver border 'n the Marines was a gold musket on a red field with a gold border. 

There's so many different 'pins' now... I can't keep up with 'em... medals too. I think the Air Force gives 'em a medal for graduating basic. WTF?  I see E-2's on the street with at least 3 ribbons 'n they're still in their bootcamp issue.

I have a couple friends who're 'Nam vets... one was a helo driver 'n the other a grunt.  They're tellin' me 'bout an encounter they had with a 'poser'.  This guy was about 56-58 or so... 'claimed to be 'Military Intelligence'.  (uh-huh)  Now... at a minimum... the earliest he could'a been in the 'Nam was '68... and as a 18 yr old E-nuthin'... he's not gonna be any kind'a spook.  OK... so we'll give it a few years... '71 maybe. Lets make him a Sgt by then even?  But... he'd be a short-timer. (but... I digress)... So... the dude starts of his tale of derring-do with:  "We used to take 'em (the VC) up in helo's... 'throw one of 'em out... so the others would talk.'  I have heard that piece of BS more times than I can count.  One... you can't hear squat inside a UH-1B/C w/o the phones on.  Plus all the other 'missing parts' of such stuff.  So... my bud the grunt asks this dude;  ''Remember the stamps we used back then?  'Had a funny design but i can't remember what it was?"  The guy sez:  "Yeah... but I can't remember  what it was either."  So my helo pilot bud sez... 'You can't remember 'cause you weren't there.  "There was no special 'stamp'.  Ya wrote 'FREE' in the upper r/h corner of the envelope."  The guy left his beer on the bar 'n left...

Here's a 'poser'... blowin' smoke at a pair of real vets.  How dumb can ya be? They told me they'd wished I'd been there.  Outing posers has become an obsession.  'Know what a 'John Wayne' is?  A B-2 unit?  Ham 'n limas was called what?  What color were the limas?  What was on the top of a 'spiced meatball'?  What's unique about Chau Doc... and what river is it on? What was unique about the Parrots Beak?

The MSGST runnin' the Tan Son Nhut NCO club wa 'selling' memberships.  What color was the card 'n what'd it cost?  Richmond Barracks was where?  What purpose did it serve?

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Yeah, I remember it being both a ribbon and a separate box with a medal attached to a ribbon..granted it's been 18 years ago now, but I remember that much.  I am going to try and find it online.

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Sonora Rebel wrote: There's so many different 'pins' now... I can't keep up with 'em... medals too. I think the Air Force gives 'em a medal for graduating basic. WTF?  I see E-2's on the street with at least 3 ribbons 'n they're still in their bootcamp issue


not just airforce. when i graduated basic we got the army service ribbon and the national defense service ribbon. the company next to us got a total of 3 but im not sure what it was

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It was prob'ly National Defense.. Red ribbon... yellow stripe in the middle. 

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He was correct I joined at 17 out of high school, and was not allow to go to the Nam till I was 18. In the Marines you do get the CAR if you see combat. Out of boot camp only had 1 ribbon. I arrived in the Nam in Jan. of 68 as a PFC. I remember the Ham and MFers well lol , preferred the Long rations much better.
S/F Vic

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reconvic wrote: He was correct I joined at 17 out of high school, and was not allow to go to the Nam till I was 18. In the Marines you do get the CAR if you see combat. Out of boot camp only had 1 ribbon. I arrived in the Nam in Jan. of 68 as a PFC. I remember the Ham and MFers well lol , preferred the Long rations much better.
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'T'was Bean's 'n MF'rs... the ham chunks were like rubber... but the more ya knawed on 'em... the bigger they got.  The beans were white (from age).  'Long?  Ya mean LRRP Rats... (Long Range Recon Patrol)... 'Had a lotta sugar... we scored the gumdrops when we could get 'em.

I kept a folding Tommy cooker the size of a cigarette pack  'n had a metal canteen stove for my cup that fit over the canteen.   I think those are quite rare now. The 'new issue ' wire handle cups sucked... the old style with the folding handle (WWII type) was much better.  Made sure I had 'nuff hex tabs so I didn't have to eat the more impossible stuff cold.  In '65... we were still gettin' K-rats from WWII... inna waxed box date 1944. (yum)  Lucky Strike 'Green'... 'Light one and in one drag you'd finish the butt.  'Had 'Ham slices... dump it out... cut the green 'outer ring' off... 'n hope for the best with what remained. Chicklets (2) were petrified... but you could suck on 'em for the sugar.  The innards were unchewable.  I still have my John Wayne on my dog tag chain... Wartime ones are black anodized... the bare metal ones are later issue.  They're called P-38's... cause it takes 38 P-unctures to open a C-rats can with one.  'Better than nuthin'  Only one of thse per case of C-rats... so if you were gonna score one... you had to be quick. 

We got 30 round mags... but no 30 round mag pouches for our 782 gear.  We used canteen covers with socks between 'em so they wouldn't rattle.  We couldn't get M-7 bayonets or knives either for awhile.  Finally got some Cammilus 'K-bar' types 'n scrounged up some M-3's. 

I came back from 'Nam in '72... 'passed this surplus store that had a log in the window display... with M-7's stuck in it... Brand new... w/ new M-8 sheaths too.  DoD in action.  I go in this joint... 30 round mag pouches up the gazoo. Brand new, US marked. But wait... there's more!  US marked AK-47 mag pouches... new... ALICE clips 'n all...   I wasn't pissed... I was furious.    

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Yeah, I can see why that would upset you Sonora..that's a disgrace.

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If your talking about me I was in P.I Plt 2001 Was 17 when I joined , Mos 0341 but to young to go to the NAM till 18 in Camp Pentelton, I advance jungle training. I was 1st tour In An -Hoa. I am 100 percent disabiled from the Nam.
I was with 2/5 H & S company 1st tour, BTW we called them Ham & mother Ferrs.
Enuff said What was your Mos ? Where were you in 68 ???????????
You probably was a Hollywood Marine lol
S/F Vic:D

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It makes me sad when a Marine that maybe chewed the same mud as me questions me! I done more as a Marine then most but don't brag about it. I earned my Bubble and Wings and also a pathfinder , what is the scarf mean
Whale Sh!t on the eagle neck? You want to get down, I am up for you easy.
tyou are talking to a lean mean fighting machine here, you office poggy.
S/F Vic

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'68?... I was either at MCAS Yuma or AO-B school in JAX.  I'd already done a 'Nam tour (as a Petty Officer, same-same CPL) 3 years prior and had a total of 9 years active duty at the time.  I also enlisted at 17... in 1960. I was neither a Marine nor an office pogue (housecat).  I was a Navy Aviation Ordnanceman / Aircrew doin' close air support stuff.  We had several Marines in the squadron (including NFO/Aircrew) one of whom was killed while I was there again in '71-'72.  We flew OV-10A Bronco's outta Binh Thuy off the Bassac down in IV Corps. By this time I was a Senior Petty Officer... same-same SSGT.  Also had the 1st ANGLICO there...  still in-country when the media claimed all Marines were gone.

Dunno why you should get so defensive?  Scarf is Marine slang for a necktie... the 'field scarf'.  Whatever that other term is ain't common... Never heard it.  My father was a China Marine... and also served in the 10th Horse in the 2nd Nicaragua where he was wounded.

    

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Sonora Rebel wrote:
'68?... I was either at MCAS Yuma or AO-B school in JAX.  I'd already done a 'Nam tour (as a Petty Officer, same-same CPL) 3 years prior and had a total of 9 years active duty at the time.  I also enlisted at 17... in 1960. I was neither a Marine nor an office pogue (housecat).  I was a Navy Aviation Ordnanceman / Aircrew doin' close air support stuff.  We had several Marines in the squadron (including NFO/Aircrew) one of whom was killed while I was there again in '71-'72.  We flew OV-10A Bronco's outta Binh Thuy off the Bassac down in IV Corps. By this time I was a Senior Petty Officer... same-same SSGT.  Also had the 1st ANGLICO there...  still in-country when the media claimed all Marines were gone.

Dunno why you should get so defensive?  Scarf is Marine slang for a necktie... the 'field scarf'.  Whatever that other term is ain't common... Never heard it.  My father was a China Marine... and also served in the 10th Horse in the 2nd Nicaragua where he was wounded.

    



First off your WRONG thee scarf means you made it thru the Armys Patherfinder school.
Second if you are a Marine remember what Sember Fi means, Marines are brothers, we don't talk behind someones back I shooy sraight like I talk.
So if you or anyone wants to talk about my beloved CORPS, talk like a Marine does not when I am out shooting and not hear to defend myself.
The real deal S/F Vic

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reconvic wrote: Sonora Rebel wrote:
'68?... I was either at MCAS Yuma or AO-B school in JAX.  I'd already done a 'Nam tour (as a Petty Officer, same-same CPL) 3 years prior and had a total of 9 years active duty at the time.  I also enlisted at 17... in 1960. I was neither a Marine nor an office pogue (housecat).  I was a Navy Aviation Ordnanceman / Aircrew doin' close air support stuff.  We had several Marines in the squadron (including NFO/Aircrew) one of whom was killed while I was there again in '71-'72.  We flew OV-10A Bronco's outta Binh Thuy off the Bassac down in IV Corps. By this time I was a Senior Petty Officer... same-same SSGT.  Also had the 1st ANGLICO there...  still in-country when the media claimed all Marines were gone.

Dunno why you should get so defensive?  Scarf is Marine slang for a necktie... the 'field scarf'.  Whatever that other term is ain't common... Never heard it.  My father was a China Marine... and also served in the 10th Horse in the 2nd Nicaragua where he was wounded.

    



First off your WRONG thee scarf means you made it thru the Armys Patherfinder school.
Second if you are a Marine remember what Sember Fi means, Marines are brothers, we don't talk behind someones back I shooy sraight like I talk.
So if you or anyone wants to talk about my beloved CORPS, talk like a Marine does not when I am out shooting and not hear to defend myself.
The real deal S/F Vic


First off... I am not and never was a Marine.  If you actually read what I've written... you'd understand that.  I was NAVY.  Secondly... I dunno what the Army Pathfinder 'scarf' is... never heard of it.  The Pathfinder emblem is a winged torch.  As a Marine, you couldn't wear them as they are not part of the Marine Uniform.  Pathfinder school is at Ft. Benning... and as far as I've been told... some went thru the Jungle Warfare school in Panama back then.  I had a bud in the 173rd ABN who did that.  I b'lieve Pathfinder candidates are limited to E-5 thru E-7, possibly thru E-9.

All Recon Marines are jump qualified.  Your avitar is of the 1st Marine Recon BN, but you're claiming H&S 2/5 (I assume Weapons Company, Mortar Platoon) and you were (I assume) an 81mm mortarman by your MOS.  Ist MarDiv includes 2nd BN/5th Mar Regt. to which I must assume 1st Recon is/was attached?  The 1st was deployed outta Chu Lai near An Ton up in I Corps.  Whole 'nuther war goin' on up that end.

I was IV Corps (Mekong Delta) in Riverine Ops.   Anyway... it was 40 +/- years ago with an entirely different perspective.  You were an 18 yr old boot 'n I was a 27 year old NCO (Petty Officer).  

 

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Sonora Rebel wrote:
reconvic wrote: Sonora Rebel wrote:
'68?... I was either at MCAS Yuma or AO-B school in JAX.  I'd already done a 'Nam tour (as a Petty Officer, same-same CPL) 3 years prior and had a total of 9 years active duty at the time.  I also enlisted at 17... in 1960. I was neither a Marine nor an office pogue (housecat).  I was a Navy Aviation Ordnanceman / Aircrew doin' close air support stuff.  We had several Marines in the squadron (including NFO/Aircrew) one of whom was killed while I was there again in '71-'72.  We flew OV-10A Bronco's outta Binh Thuy off the Bassac down in IV Corps. By this time I was a Senior Petty Officer... same-same SSGT.  Also had the 1st ANGLICO there...  still in-country when the media claimed all Marines were gone.

Dunno why you should get so defensive?  Scarf is Marine slang for a necktie... the 'field scarf'.  Whatever that other term is ain't common... Never heard it.  My father was a China Marine... and also served in the 10th Horse in the 2nd Nicaragua where he was wounded.

    



First off your WRONG thee scarf means you made it thru the Armys Patherfinder school.
Second if you are a Marine remember what Sember Fi means, Marines are brothers, we don't talk behind someones back I shooy sraight like I talk.
So if you or anyone wants to talk about my beloved CORPS, talk like a Marine does not when I am out shooting and not hear to defend myself.
The real deal S/F Vic


First off... I am not and never was a Marine.  If you actually read what I've written... you'd understand that.  I was NAVY.  Secondly... I dunno what the Army Pathfinder 'scarf' is... never heard of it.  The Pathfinder emblem is a winged torch.  As a Marine, you couldn't wear them as they are not part of the Marine Uniform.  Pathfinder school is at Ft. Benning... and as far as I've been told... some went thru the Jungle Warfare school in Panama back then.  I had a bud in the 173rd ABN who did that.  I b'lieve Pathfinder candidates are limited to E-5 thru E-7, possibly thru E-9.

All Recon Marines are jump qualified.  Your avitar is of the 1st Marine Recon BN, but you're claiming H&S 2/5 (I assume Weapons Company, Mortar Platoon) and you were (I assume) an 81mm mortarman by your MOS.  Ist MarDiv includes 2nd BN/5th Mar Regt. to which I muist assume 1st Recon is/was attached?  The 1st was deployed outta Chu Lai near An Ton up in I Corps.  Whole 'nuther war goin' on up that end.

I was IV Corps (Mekong Delta) in Riverine Ops.

 
First off in 68 Jungle ware school was in Cam Pen. Scuba school was in Panama, My 1st tour I was 0341 a Mortar man 81, yes, 2nd tour I went thru R.I.P and Got my wings at Benning and bubble in Panama, I have no idea where you are getting your information from but do your homework. In my 2nd tour I was near Chu Lai, in late 69 and did long range recon . As I said in prior post I actually seen more action with 2/5 then with Recon but remember Recon duty is not to be seen or get in direct contact just observe and report back but behind enemys lines, and get to you're your company in one picece.
Enuff said I have no more to prove to you, as you have no more to prove to me!
S/F Vic

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reconvic wrote: First off in 68 Jungle ware school was in Cam Pen. Scuba school was in Panama, My 1st tour I was 0341 a Mortar man 81, yes, 2nd tour I went thru R.I.P and Got my wings at Benning and bubble in Panama, I have no idea where you are getting your information from but do your homework. In my 2nd tour I was near Chu Lai, in late 69 and did long range recon . As I said in prior post I actually seen more action with 2/5 then with Recon but remember Recon duty is not to be seen or get in direct contact just observe and report back but behind enemys lines, and get to you're your company in one picece.
Enuff said I have no more to prove to you, as you have no more to prove to me!
S/F Vic


My 'information'... is a result of 20+ years active duty specializing in Air Warfare and weaponeering.  I didn't retire 'til Oct '83.

I took weapons and IED training at Pendelton (attached to VMO-5 at MCALF Pendelton) in '71 but the Jungle Warfare school is in Okinawa... Camp Gonsalves. There was another one near Cubi Pt. in the PI for a time.   Anyway... I'm done with this.

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reconvic wrote: For those that served in actually combat they will receive a ribbon and it will be on your DD-214.In the Nam I think almost all have seen some combat, though I was never south of DaNang. I would say I encountered a firefight more as a 0341 then I did as a 0321. Any one there in 1968 around the Arizona Territory?
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Mahan0331 wrote: reconvic wrote: For those that served in actually combat they will receive a ribbon and it will be on your DD-214.In the Nam I think almost all have seen some combat, though I was never south of DaNang. I would say I encountered a firefight more as a 0341 then I did as a 0321. Any one there in 1968 around the Arizona Territory?
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Would you care to share the Title of this ribbon with us? It doesn't seem to show up on my searches for service awards/ribbons.

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TOF wrote: Mahan0331 wrote:



The only one that really matters....

Would you care to share the Title of this ribbon with us? It doesn't seem to show up on my searches for service awards/ribbons.

That 's the Navy/Marine Corps Combat Action Ribbon.   At one time it was on the Ribbons and medals chart backwards.

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That helps, thanks.

Some sites show it with black rather than blue and others may be backwards. I was simply unable to find a comparable ribbon in my search. I got tired of looking so asked.

Having been in between Korea and Viet Nam all I ended up with that I am aware of was a good conduct medal. I didn't have much fun.

 

 

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Establishing Authority - The Combat Action Ribbon was established on February 17, 1969, by Secretary of the Navy John H. Chafee and announced by SECNAVNOTE 1650 of February 17, 1969. The Annual Defense Authorization Bill (Public Law 106-65) signed into law by President Clinton on October 5, 1999, authorized the Secretary of the Navy to award the Combat Action Ribbon to members of the Navy or Marine Coprs who participated in combat during any period after December 6, 1941.



Effective Dates - The Combat Action Ribbon originally took effect on March 1, 1961; however, with the passage of Public Law 106-65 (cited above), award of the Combat Action Ribbon may now be made retroactive to December 7, 1941.



Criteria - The Combat Action Ribbon is a personal decoration awarded to members of the Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard (when operating under the control of the Navy) in the grade of captain (or colonel in the Marine Corps) and below who have actively participated in ground or surface combat.



Personnel who earned the Combat Infantryman Badge or Combat Medical Badge while a member of the Army may be authorized to wear the Combat Action Ribbon. The principal criterion is that the recipient must have participated in a bona fide ground or surface combat firefight or in an action during which he was under enemy fire and his performance while under fire was satisfactory.



Order of Precedence - The Combat Action Ribbon is worn after the Navy Achievement Medal and before the Navy Presidential Unit Citation.



Devices - Because this ribbon is considered to be a personal decoration, additional awards are indicated by gold stars five-sixteenths of an inch in diameter (an additional star in silver of the same size denotes a sixth award).

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1980-1983 McChord AFB,  Tacoma/Spanaway WA

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I'm thinking I should've taken the Top Secret assignment I had to Nellis when I was in the UK, wouldn't have ended up spending so much time getting my rights trampled.

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