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CRF250rider1000
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Posted: Sun Sep 27th, 2009 03:21 am |
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I have a Kimber ultra carry and am looking at ordering the Blackhawk drop leg holster. I am pretty sure that the ultra carry will fit despite it being a 3" barrel vs the 5". Thoughts?
Thanks!
http://www.outdoorpros.com/Prod/BlackHawk-430503BK-R-Tactical-Serpa-Holster-RH-Black-1911/12677/Cat/1396
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kimbercarrier
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Posted: Sun Sep 27th, 2009 07:27 pm |
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Hi Alex. It should fit just like the regular Serpa it's just longer that your gun.
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FogRider
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Posted: Sun Sep 27th, 2009 07:48 pm |
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It ought to be just fine. I've heard of a few folks putting short guns in Serpa holsters and taking a Dremel to the holster so it looks better.
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brokenbarrel
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Posted: Sat Oct 3rd, 2009 10:40 am |
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CRF250rider1000 wrote: I have a Kimber ultra carry and am looking at ordering the Blackhawk drop leg holster. I am pretty sure that the ultra carry will fit despite it being a 3" barrel vs the 5". Thoughts?
Thanks!
http://www.outdoorpros.com/Prod/BlackHawk-430503BK-R-Tactical-Serpa-Holster-RH-Black-1911/12677/Cat/1396
b4 u buy one a leg holster aint 4 every1,takes practice,try one first looks aint everything...Last edited on Sat Oct 3rd, 2009 10:42 am by brokenbarrel
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Dreamer
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Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 08:38 pm |
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Are you planning to use this for Open Carry, or while you're hunting, or are you active-duty military or LE? The applicability of a drop-leg for Open carry is somewhat questionable, not only from a utilitarian POV, but from a potential "perception" problem with civilians and LEOs, and heaven forbid, to a prosecutor should you actually have to use your firearm in a self-defense situation...
Modern drop-leg holsters were originally designed for tactical military use, to increase mobility, and allow for the more comfortable carry of the larger sidearms typically used by tactical operators like SEALs and Delta.
Many LEA's have adopted their use, as more amd more civilian LEA's strive toward the unexplainable desire to appear and operate as paramilitary organizations rather than "peace officers".
Wearing a modern drop-leg holster for OC is going to have a LOT of potential problems. "Civilians" (especially anti-gun types) are going to see you as some sort of "mall-ninja", and call you in as a "man with a gun". LEO's are going to perceive you as a Swat-Team-Wannabee, or some sort of paramilitary wack-job and are going to enter into any interaction with you with a Class-A attitude from the get-go. The few advantages to wearing such a harness (increased mobility, more comfy weight distribution) are vastly outnumbered by the potential perception issues that such a rig is going to create, IMO...
Buy a nice leather or Kydex holster and wear it on your belt, like a regular civilian. If you're too overweight to do that comfortably, then I would suggest your greatest health and safety concern isn't some mugger or thug on the street, it is your impending coronary arrest, and maybe you need to drop a few pounds if you're going to carry...
I mean, really, why would anyone want to wear gear that is going to INVITE an attitude from the anti's (who are going to see you as some sort of pseudo-tactical paramilitary wing nut) or the police (who are just LOOKING for an excuse to mess with OC'ers, and walking around in "tactical" gear is just that excuse...)
Save the tactical gear for the range, or your personal property. Wearing it on the street is just a recipe for confrontation with the anti's, be they civvies OR badges...
That's my opinion on the matter...
Last edited on Tue Oct 6th, 2009 04:47 pm by Dreamer
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ODA 226
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Posted: Mon Oct 5th, 2009 03:44 am |
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CRF250rider1000
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Posted: Tue Oct 6th, 2009 08:52 pm |
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I'm just carrying OWB right now and it works. I just wanted to look into the idea of a drop leg. I bought a serpa to mount in my vehicle, but right now I'm having a problem figuring out where and how to mount it. hmm
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AB
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Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2009 09:37 pm |
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Dreamer wrote: ...why would anyone want to wear...
Winter.
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Dreamer
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Posted: Thu Oct 15th, 2009 05:38 am |
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If wearing OC during winter while donning a coat is the issue, and you have a Serpa, I believe that this accessory will allow you to hang a Serpa on a belt, and drop it sufficiently to be clear of your coat, without all the straps and buckles of a tactic-cool style rig:
http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Jacket-Slot-Duty-Belt-Loop,839,82.htm
And if you're looking for a way to mount your Serpa in your car and STILL be able to use it on your hip without fumbling with screwdrivers, they make a "quick disconnect" mount that allows you to mount a baseplate on a rigid surface, and a QD plate on your holster, and another base plate on your carry rig of choice. It's fast, secure, and allows you to use one single holster in several different applications...
http://www.blackhawk.com/product/SERPA-Quick-Disconnect-Kit-2-Female1-Male,1239,82.htm
Just a thought...
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Wangmuf
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Posted: Sat Oct 17th, 2009 04:26 am |
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AB wrote: Dreamer wrote: ...why would anyone want to wear...
Winter.
This.
An added bonus for me will be having it for next spring/summer on my motorcycle. The way my SERPA belt holster sits gets uncomfortable after long rides with a waist-length, stiff, form-fitting motorcycle jacket and a backpack with a waist belt. NoVa to Williamsburg was a pain in my side.
Edit:
tac⋅ti⋅cal adjective
1. of or pertaining to tactics, esp. military or naval tactics.
2. characterized by skillful tactics or adroit maneuvering or procedure: tactical movements.
3. of or pertaining to a maneuver or plan of action designed as an expedient toward gaining a desired end or temporary advantage.
4. expedient; calculated.
5. prudent; politic.
I think all OC holsters could be described as tactical... They expedite the deployment of a handgun more than a fanny pack, range bag, backpack, or hard case would.
Last edited on Sat Oct 17th, 2009 04:34 am by Wangmuf
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heliopolissolutions
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 04:59 am |
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Perception problem?
Lets be perfectly honest here.
The last problem we have here is how the holster is percieved.
If you wear a leather holster you're a wannabe cowboy.
If you wear a drop-leg you're a mall-ninja/wannabe SEAL.
If you wear a cheater you're a wannabe Secret Service agent or Humphrey Bogart.
If you wear a mexican holster you're gangbanger.
If you wear a bandoleer holster you're a wannabe paramilitary.
The gentleman above who gave us a few paragraphs on his point of view seems to be neglecting the fact that the problem is the gun. Not the holster.
Can the manner in which the gun is carried be used as a venue for criticism? Yes, but any holster can and will be.
Carry in the manner which is a.) legal and b.) most conveniently accessible and useful. c.) suits your preference.
Anything else just seems silly.
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 04:27 pm |
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Winter... snow/rain ... 'n all that... CC the thing inna shoulder holster under your jacket or wear a SHORT jacket. I dunno what it takes to get you people used to the idea of a separate gunbelt either. If the holster slides around, secure it to the belt with a Chicago screw.
'Had a friend of mine here awhile back 'n I loaned him a gunbelt 'n holster. No matter what he did that pistol would end up somewhere other than his side, whereas I'd never had a problem with it. I ended up puttin' a screw in it for him.
My Bianchi UM-84 (flap removed, thumb break added) has a pair of spring clips on the holster and mag pouch 'n hasn't budged at all. I could put a tactical drop-leg panel on that 'n leg straps too... but then I'd look like a tacti-cool wanna-be. I carry cross draw, which doesn't interfere with the seat belt and allows me to 'draw it' sittin' down (anywhere) if I had to.
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AB
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 04:32 pm |
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Sonora Rebel wrote: Winter... snow/rain ... 'n all that... CC the thing inna shoulder holster under your jacket
Winter... snow/rain - Stainless
CC the thing in a shoulder holster under your jacket - Different forum
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PointofView
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 08:45 am |
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http://www.copquest.com/23-5130.htm
This is what I use for my Beretta 92 here in theater. I have shot using this and the release is unbeatable. The adjustable sturdy velcro belt hook is great. You can raise or lower this quickly and easily for comfort. Pricey but quality often is.
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Michigander
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Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 12:15 pm |
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Sonora Rebel wrote: I dunno what it takes to get you people used to the idea of a separate gunbelt either. If the holster slides around, secure it to the belt with a Chicago screw.
You convinced me of both of those things. 
It takes so much annoyance out of daily carrying. And it's so convenient. No way to forget your mags or gun (or here in occupied america a recorder) when they're all securely together.
Everything ready to go instantly just as you want it, as opposed to wasting time putting everything on, and having to do a bunch of gun handling.
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Thoreau
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Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2009 05:08 pm |
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Dreamer wrote: Are you planning to use this for Open Carry, or while you're hunting, or are you active-duty military or LE? The applicability of a drop-leg for Open carry is somewhat questionable, not only from a utilitarian POV, but from a potential "perception" problem with civilians and LEOs, and heaven forbid, to a prosecutor should you actually have to use your firearm in a self-defense situation...
Modern drop-leg holsters were originally designed for tactical military use, to increase mobility, and allow for the more comfortable carry of the larger sidearms typically used by tactical operators like SEALs and Delta.
Many LEA's have adopted their use, as more amd more civilian LEA's strive toward the unexplainable desire to appear and operate as paramilitary organizations rather than "peace officers".
Wearing a modern drop-leg holster for OC is going to have a LOT of potential problems. "Civilians" (especially anti-gun types) are going to see you as some sort of "mall-ninja", and call you in as a "man with a gun". LEO's are going to perceive you as a Swat-Team-Wannabee, or some sort of paramilitary wack-job and are going to enter into any interaction with you with a Class-A attitude from the get-go. The few advantages to wearing such a harness (increased mobility, more comfy weight distribution) are vastly outnumbered by the potential perception issues that such a rig is going to create, IMO...
Buy a nice leather or Kydex holster and wear it on your belt, like a regular civilian. If you're too overweight to do that comfortably, then I would suggest your greatest health and safety concern isn't some mugger or thug on the street, it is your impending coronary arrest, and maybe you need to drop a few pounds if you're going to carry...
I mean, really, why would anyone want to wear gear that is going to INVITE an attitude from the anti's (who are going to see you as some sort of pseudo-tactical paramilitary wing nut) or the police (who are just LOOKING for an excuse to mess with OC'ers, and walking around in "tactical" gear is just that excuse...)
Save the tactical gear for the range, or your personal property. Wearing it on the street is just a recipe for confrontation with the anti's, be they civvies OR badges...
That's my opinion on the matter...
Agreed almost 100% =)
One thing that I would add from my own experience (I use that same leg holster on occasion) is that it does work VERY well for hiking/camping trips. I find that the lower portion of backpack shoulder straps interfere with any type of hip-level holster, and certainly with any IWB holster. Moreso the hip belt of a full-frame backpack makes a normal holster impossible unless you don't mind attaching it to the backpack (I prefer the weapon be attached to ME, not my bag.) I've received the occasional 'look' from passers-by on the trail, and the 'is that a real gun' question from a kid once, but never had any other issues. Of course, this is Arizona, so YMMW. Heck, I've even seen two others carrying with the same rig on the trail before.
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AB
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Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2009 05:20 pm |
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You wear what ever works, Period.
If you are worried what others might think, then maybe you shouldn't carry at all. The same anti-gun types say the same things no matter what you are wearing.
That being said, Wyoming "horizontal snow" and a jacket that goes below the waist calls for an extra low holster.
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Batousaii
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Posted: Fri Nov 13th, 2009 06:41 am |
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Maybe we should make a law against drop leg holsters, just to keep the "mall ninjas" from scaring people.
+1 @ AB.
Last edited on Fri Nov 13th, 2009 06:42 am by Batousaii
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