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MikeV
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Posted: Wed Oct 28th, 2009 03:59 pm |
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I was driving home last night listening to WMAL 630am, and heard an alarming story.
Due to the tough enforcement in VA, it seems that more and more gangs are moving their activities to MD.
Yet another reason we need SHALL ISSUE and unlicensed OPEN CARRY in MD!
MikeV
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Wed Oct 28th, 2009 05:24 pm |
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MikeV wrote: I was driving home last night listening to WMAL 630am, and heard an alarming story.
Due to the tough enforcement in VA, it seems that more and more gangs are moving their activities to MD.
Yet another reason we need SHALL ISSUE and unlicensed OPEN CARRY in MD!
MikeV
All the more reason for MO'M and the hysterical anti-gun Dums to go into their dance about 'gun-control' which will only continue to leave the citizenry defenseless prey to the criminal element. No... they don't 'get it' and never will.
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Dreamer
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 12:23 pm |
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I have a friend who is a PhD statistician living in NoVa, and about 7 years ago, while working for Fairfax County, she helped author the report on Gang Activity in NoVa. She's pretty much an expert on gang-related crime statistics in that region, and she told me then that although the really bad gangs like MS-13 were growing in VA, that the REAL problem was going to happen when they branched out and becme established in MD and WV.
She said they would become established in VA, but would remain mostly underground and keep to themselves, because the VA LEAs were on top of the problem, and the gangs knew that Virginia law-abiding residents were pretty heavily armed, and the gangs had no idea which house or which random yuppie walking down the street in VA might be packing at any given moment.
She said it would be a problem in WV (particularly the Eastern Panhandle) because their LEA's weren't even remotely prepared for it. But they would probaly maintain a low profile in that area, because of all the firearms owners in WV, and the high probablility that law-abiding citizens in WV wouldn't hesitate to defend themselves and their property. Tags for MS-13 were first identified by the Berkeley County Sheriffs department in Martinsburg in 2001.
But she said the problem in MD would be different, because it would devolve into turf wars with the older established gangs, and also the law-abiding citizenry was essentially disarmed and posed no threat against home invasions, muggings, and random acts of violence. And they would become increasingly bolder, because they knew they would almost never meet armed resistance from law-abiding MD residents, due to widespread governmental diarmament of the citizenry.
Unfortunately it looks like she was right...
Now she works for the GAO, so she's dealing with an entirely different level of organized criminals... 
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MikeV
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 01:45 pm |
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Dreamer
Is there a link to this report anywhere? I would be interested inreviewing it and possibly directingOur State Lawmakers to it. Hopefully with an ever growing push we here in MD may get something done in the GA. Last year although it failed the vote in Committee, at least we finally got a vote on a Pro-gun bill (I believe it was Castle-Doctrine).
MikeV
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 03:31 pm |
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The MD State Legislature is Myopia wrapped in Denial. They've beaten the anti-gun drum for so long they're deaf to anything other. So is the local media... and law enforcement.
And the sheeple will bleat whatever they've been conditioned to bleat.
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MikeV
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 04:36 pm |
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So you suggest to stop trying to change things? I would rather not.
MikeV
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Sonora Rebel
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 05:42 pm |
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'Not at all... but there's too many myopic sheeple in MD... particulary Baltimore-Metro.Then... ya got O'Malley.
How's 75-80 doin'? Wilcom still own it?
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MikeV
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 05:54 pm |
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75-80 was shut down for about 2-3 (maybe 4-5) years but recently re-opened. I think the development deal fell through or something to that effect. Wicom's Inn is stil and has been open as far as I know. It's nice to hear the motor's from my yard on the weekend. I am not a big drag racing fan, I am a huge stock car racing fan, but I am glad all the same that the track is up and running again.
MikeV
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BacknBlack
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 09:29 pm |
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MikeV wrote: 75-80 was shut down for about 2-3 (maybe 4-5) years but recently re-opened. I think the development deal fell through or something to that effect. Wicom's Inn is stil and has been open as far as I know. It's nice to hear the motor's from my yard on the weekend. I am not a big drag racing fan, I am a huge stock car racing fan, but I am glad all the same that the track is up and running again.
MikeV
Too bad it turned into a 1/8 mile track...
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Dreamer
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 02:22 am |
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MikeV,
I don't know if the report she worked on is online, but you can get the 2008 "Gangs in FFX Co By The Numbers" report at this link:
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/gangprevention/gangs_in_fairfax_county_by_the_numbers_-_2008.pdf
Here is the main link to the FFX Co Gang Activities Prevention website:
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/gangprevention/
But th eother posts are pretty dead-on. The Maryland Legislature is so myopically dedicated to disarming teh pubic that no amount of statistics, academically-vetted research, or actual real-life street cases will convince them that they are wrong.
Just look at Babs Mikulsky. She's one of the biggest anti-gun Senators in Washington, and she actually held one of those elusive MD CC permits for years. And even on this issue, she's a duplicitous, issue-dodging weasel--she lodges a "Not Voting" vote on the Thune Amendment in July...
Interestingly enough, all three of the Senators who "No Voted"--Kennedey from MA, Byrd from WV, and Mikulsky from MD--all three have at one time in their lives had CC permits...
Last edited on Fri Oct 30th, 2009 02:25 am by Dreamer
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Jared
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 01:29 pm |
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MikeV wrote: I was driving home last night listening to WMAL 630am, and heard an alarming story.
Due to the tough enforcement in VA, it seems that more and more gangs are moving their activities to MD.
Yet another reason we need SHALL ISSUE and unlicensed OPEN CARRY in MD!
MikeV
We need to get these gang members applications for a handgun carry permit so they can legally carry handguns and concealed switchblades.
Being in a gang is probably good cause to be issued a license.. right?
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Dreamer
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 09:55 pm |
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I was emailing with my friend who wrote the Fairfax County VA Gang Crime Assessment, and she sent me the link; This covers NoVa from 2003-2008, but it's got a LOT of interesting information, so you MD folks might be interested...
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/
Click on the second link on this page--the one that says "Northern Virginia Comprehensive Gang Assessment 2003-2008 "
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Posted: Wed Nov 11th, 2009 07:34 pm |
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Maryland shall issue... if you are the person who owns the color blue or the person who knows a few cops.
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