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Seattle Times reports on parks lawsuit, notes that WA is an open carry state requiring no permit
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 Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 03:16 pm
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010154649_webgunban28m.html 

SNIP

The state is an "open-carry" state, and that doesn't require residents to have a concealed-weapons permit as long as the guns are in plain view.


Article picked up on USA Today also:  http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2009/10/nra-sues-to-overturn-new-seattle-ban-on-guns-in-city-parks/1

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 Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 04:23 pm
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In response to the suit, the city's law department issued a statement that said, in part: "the City's policy was put in place to protect our most vulnerable and defenseless citizens, our children. The City's most important public duty is to protect its citizens from harm, especially when they are visiting City facilities."

So the city is making the most vulnerable and defenseless citizens even more vulnerable and defenseless.  :barf:

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 Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 05:03 pm
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The Seattletimes.com article also has a link to the lawsuit:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2009/10/28/2010155285.pdf

It makes for some good reading.

Oddly enough, I know two of the plaintiffs.

Edited to add: I hate the way the NRA is the one they concentrate on when SAF and CCRKBA are actually the ones leading the way.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 06:39 pm
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Why in both causes of action and the request for relief does it ask that Defendants not be able to make any more sill rules against Concealed Carry?

Is there some strange Washington law that would allow the city to enact rules against Open Carry in a city park?

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 Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 11:28 pm
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Thundar wrote:
Why in both causes of action and the request for relief does it ask that Defendants not be able to make any more sill rules against Concealed Carry?

Is there some strange Washington law that would allow the city to enact rules against Open Carry in a city park?


That's the entire point. What Mayor Nickels did is illegal. The SAF, etc. are trying to get an injunction to void the rule until it can be decided in court. Since ALL of the laws of the state of Washington are on our side the city is almost surely going to lose this one. And the only reason I use the word "almost" is that Seattle is a liberal bastion and there's no telling how the judge might go. If he/she follows the law, though, we've already won.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 04:02 pm
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Thundar wrote: Why in both causes of action and the request for relief does it ask that Defendants not be able to make any more sill rules against Concealed Carry?

Is there some strange Washington law that would allow the city to enact rules against Open Carry in a city park?

Because SAF isn't necessarilly pro-open carry.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 05:43 pm
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Does that mean Seattle is going to refuse any state money from now on? If they want to have this attitude they can start paying all their own bills and quit being subsidized by the rest of the state.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 03:23 am
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sudden valley gunner wrote: Does that mean Seattle is going to refuse any state money from now on? If they want to have this attitude they can start paying all their own bills and quit being subsidized by the rest of the state.
I can't wait for that day.  They love turning up their nose at the rest of us 'heathens' but we're footing plenty of their bills.

Just imagine how their precious piousness is going to go into the sh!tter when Boeing moves the rest of it's facilities to South Carolina.  I think the dark blue line from Seattle to Olympia needs a serious reality check.


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