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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Another positive encounter today. I was having a quick snack and waiting for fresh coffee to finish brewing at a 7-Eleven in Springfield. Fella walks up to the coffee counter and gets started adding the fixin's to his coffee. After a few seconds he asks me whether my sidearm is job related. I tell him, "No. Self-defense." He gave an agreeable acknowledgement. It wasn't immediately obvious, but after a bit, it became discernable that he was a 2A supporter. We chatted for a bit. It turned out he had attended the Bloomberg Gun Give-away. It was a pleasant conversation over all. His wife was waiting for him in the car, so we had to cut it short. |
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Tess Founder's Club Member 
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Good times. First time I've carried in Landmark Mall since they took down their signs, and first time I've carried the honking 1911 instead of my little .380. Can't even recount the number of  . Lots of pointed fingers - but intriguingly ALL among the patrons and NONE among the employees. |
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unrequited Regular Member 
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Delicious Chinese place up there on the food court level. I don't like going there because it's quite depressing, there's never anybody in any of the stores, and I can count on my fingers how many people are walking through the mall at any one time. > ) |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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I have to share another one in which I didn't handle myself as I wish I had. The night of the last NoVA OCDO picnic get-together, stopped in a 7-11 near Ft Belvoir for milk. I've OCd there many times, and CCd as well. Never an issue. There were two clerks. One, nearer the door, was assisting a woman with two small girls in tow. The other rang up my milk, we exchanged pleasantries as always, and I turned to leave. Just as I exited the door, I heard one of the little girls say "She's got a gun!" I was mid-stride, and not thinking fast enough to stop, smile, and say something like "Yes, sweetie, I do." I got in to the car, parked right outside the door, and made eye contact with the clerks, the mother, and the little girls, smiling all the while. I needed to show this was not an issue. I saw the mother bend down to talk to the girls, but don't have any idea what kind of discussion went on in the store after I left. I just wonder - it could have gone several different ways had I stopped to talk. I hope I didn't make things worse by leaving. |
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Bulldog1967 Regular Member 
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Tess wrote: Good times. First time I've carried in Landmark Mall since they took down their signs, and first time I've carried the honking 1911 instead of my little .380. Since when did Landmark take its signs down? I hadn't heard about that! |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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Seems it was a year or more ago. I wouldn't have known, but someone posted on here that he had carried there, and I mentioned the signs. I was quickly corrected that the signs had been removed. Don't know the specifics. I agree with unrequited, though. I used to live directly across the street from the mall, and still didn't go there. It always reminded me of a strip mall in a depressed area, just covered. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Tess wrote: SNIP I was mid-stride, and not thinking fast enough to ... I think we all have something like this occur. Certainly, I've been caught "off guard" a couple of times--call it Activism Condition White. After the last, I started being deliberate about transitioning to OC, including reminding myself to activate the voice-recorder at the first sign of a worried look, antagonistic look, or police uniform. I usually run through a few pat phrases and answers just to get my mind into gear on the activism angle. |
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AbNo Regular Member 
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I guess Winchester counts as NoVA? Went with a friend to buy an Xbox in a private sale. Packed a small TV, a power inverter, and extension cord, and of course, my XD.   No problems since we were in the car pretty much the whole time. No problems sitting in the Shoney's partking lot, either. I think it took the seller and his son a couple of minutes to notice, as he started getting a bit antsy. He calmed down a bit after I tested the Xbox (that's what the inverter and extension cord were for), and pulled out $200 to hand to the buyer. Not a word otherwise, though. |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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8/20 - Baskin Robbins, 8405 Richmond Highway. Four of us, 2 armed. A from a couple who came in after us; no issues. 8/21 - Total Wine and More - 6801 Bland St., Springfield. No reaction at all. |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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Fair Oaks Mall after work this afternoon. Went in to Kay Jewelers, then had coffee at Caribou Coffee, and made some phone calls while there. No issues. Guess I'll have to do it again; I don't think anyone even noticed. I thought the mobile security patrol would as I left the mall, because he seemed to deliberately drive down the aisle where I was parked, but he never so much as moved his eyes off straight ahead, so I'm certain he didn't notice. |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member 
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Hmmm. A mobile security guard in Condition White. Doesn't inspire much confidence, does it Tess? |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Two encounters. Last week in a 7-Eleven a fella asks for directions. As we step out of the traffic flow in the store, he notices the sidearm. Asks if I'm a cop. I tell him I'm not. "But, you have a gun." In response to my question, he tells me he's from Maryland. I explain about VA open carry. He responded with an indifferent tone, "mmff." He seemed more interested in where he needed to go. Today in a 7-Eleven, as I finish paying and step away from the register, the next fella up asks, "Is that thing on your belt for extra bullets?" Friendly, inquisitive tone. I was under a minor deadline and couldn't talk. Thus all I could give him was a friendly, interested, "Yes, that is exactly what it is." |
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sjhipple Regular Member 
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Kingstowne Cinema in Fairfax: The road was blocked off because of a concert and there were lots of people and lots of cops. My wife and I entered the theatre and the guy taking our tickets smirked and said "nice gun." My wife went to the restroom and I waited out front. One of the officers approached me and politely told me that he knew what I was doing was legal, but that if the mgr told me to leave, I'd have to leave. I told him that was fine and asked if there was a policy. He said no policy, but I'd still have to leave since the management would probably tell me to leave. I told him there would be no problems and he reiterated that he had no problems with it. He said he knew there were "open arms" groups in VA and that I was "probably a member" of one and that he knew I was within the law. He asked me if I had a CHP and I saw no harm in telling him no. Then we courteously parted ways. He didn't ask me for my license or anything  . That was it.It was a positive LEO experience  . LEO 229 didn't even show up with his tank  . The Simpsons Movie was pretty good. I'd see it again.Last edited on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 11:56 pm by sjhipple |
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Fox Regular Member 
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Over the past month I've begun open carrying as it's just too hot to carry concealed. To reduce any problems that might occur while doing so this far north, legal or otherwise I tend to dress better while doing so. Over the month I've patronized the following establishments with absolutely no problems or questions raised. Home Depot Shoppers Food Jerry's Subs & Pizza Microcenter 7-11 Noodles & Company The 7-11 was the only one I felt a little uneasy about, but then, who doesn't feel uneasy going into a 7-11? It was late at night, I was drowsy and had to go to a movie. I decided to stop in to pick up one of those 5-hour energy drinks. As I pulled up the only available parking spot was right next to a George Mason University patrol car. I shrugged and pulled up. I noticed the officer was sitting in the drivers seat as I turned off my car, got out and went in the store. I should have put two and two together but it hadn't struck me that if all the parking spots were full there would be a lot of people in the 7-11. Got in line behind something like 8 people. Few others roaming the tiny store. Paid, thanked the clerk, told him to have a nice weekend, and exited. The GMU LEO was outside his car infront of the vehicle on the sidewalk, talking into his radio and looking at me as I exited. I glanced at him while I walked to my car, got in and drove off. |
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AbNo Regular Member
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FWIW, Fox, I've never had a problem carrying in two of the 7-11's down here. But then again, I'm on my way to work in one of them, and dressed business casual, and the other one, I talk to a couple of the people that work there. Even offered to help push one girl's dead VW Beetle. Though personally, if I was told to leave by someone in a store, I'd take everything I'd picked up so far, set it down where I stood, and leave. Yeah, on the floor.  |
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Fox Regular Member
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Sorry. When I said "Who doesn't feel uneasy going into a 7-11?" I meant "going in period" regardless of whether or not you're carrying.  Being a popular target with criminals and all. |
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kaiheitai17 Regular Member 
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08/24/07 OC'ed at Pancho Villa restaurant on the north side of route 610 (Garrisonville Road) for dinner and then on to Lowe's in the Stafford Marketplace. No problems or raised eyebrows or funny looks from any one. |
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darrel_h Regular Member 
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Oc'd 2 places yesterday, at Woodbridge Animal Hospital and Charbroil Grille. At the animal hospital all went well, as it usually does. We took my girlfriends cat to get some shots (poor kitty) and when the assitant came back into the room, she saw my 1911 and said "Oh, a gun carrier?". Of course I non-chalantly said yup. She then said she used to be one too. The first thing that came to my head was "Used to?". She said she still has one she just doesn't carry much anymore. She used to work security on Ft Belvoir, so the conversation then kind of steered that way. Good encounter though. At Charbroil Grille, it was a little more interesting. The place was very busy and I knew there would be a lot of eyes on me. For those of you that don't know, they have a buffet so I was right next to people a bit. My girlfriend noticed a group to my 5 o'clock who apparently couldn't keep their eyes off of us. She started making some rather loud comments about how people can be ignorant and how I (meaning myself being the carrier) can't control other people's ignorance or fright. In a way I was proud of her for definitely taking a stand and coming to my defense, even though she doesn't own or carry yet. But I asked her to just keep it down a bit because especially when carrying, you want to be kind and courteous and not give the anti's anything extra to cry about. It's kind of like having a level of professionalism. She got the idea and mellowed out a bit. She was definitely getting irritated with these people. Then, while all this is going on, we noticed one of the workers (not sure if he was a waiter/manager or what not) talking to our server and they kind of made a motion our way. They split up and our sever started making his way over to our area. At this point my girlfriend noticed and said something like "Uh oh, here we go" to me. I told her don't worry about it 'cause if they kick us out, it won't be our fault and stuff. Well, the server came over, asked us how we were. Of course we said we were good (the food there is awesome by the way, even though it's a little expensive). He definitely wasn't all that slick about taking a look at my side. But, that was it, nothing else said, nothing else noted. So all in all I would say Charbroil Grille is definitely oc friendly. darrel |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Fox wrote: SNIP When I said "Who doesn't feel uneasy going into a 7-11?" I meant "going in period" regardless of whether or not you're carrying. I've had a number of opportunities to educate public about 2A and OC in 7-Elevens. Great place for opportunities of this sort. |
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unrequited Regular Member
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Be very careful to give off a "good" vibe... recent 7-11 robbery puts us in a whole new light and I'm sure word's going around their internal communication chain to keep on the look out too: http://www.alextimes.com/article.asp?article=7259&paper=1&cat=155 |
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AbNo Regular Member
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We're getting WAY off topic, but with what Unreq said, I seem to smile a lot more when I carry. |
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no problems Last edited on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 03:01 pm by Agent19 |
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sjhipple Regular Member
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unrequited wrote: Be very careful to give off a "good" vibe... recent 7-11 robbery puts us in a whole new light and I'm sure word's going around their internal communication chain to keep on the look out too: Stories like this one make it that much more important to show that there are good, law-abiding people who carry. |
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AbNo Regular Member
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Popeye's in Centreville(?) in, made my order, and left. I got a nasty look from some guy that looked like a manager that would never climb higher in life than managing fast food, but judging by how the workers reacted when he walked by, I got the feeling he gave everyone that look. Mmm, spicy chicken. |
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sjhipple Regular Member
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AbNo wrote: Mmm, spicy chicken. You just wanted a reason to use the bananna |
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AbNo Regular Member
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Yeah, you're right. I really wasn't all THAT spicy... |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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Old Town Manassas Last edited on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 03:21 pm by Agent19 |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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9/1 - Springfield Mall -- JC Penney - tried on lots of clothes and talked to many salespeople. No issues at all. -- PayLess Shoes (manchild is now outfitted for school) , no reaction -- Coming down the escalator, back in JCP, on our way out, a couple in front of me gave me several disgusted looks. They were too far away even for a nod and a "good day", so no discussions. Catherine's (plus size clothes) - once again I was appalled by their attitude toward someone who wanted to spend money - it was my last time in there. They've never had an issue with my sidearm, but their sales staff has ticked me off over other things. Then down to Dawsons, where I found two magazines for my Bersa 9mm (W00T!) and spousal unit bought a 2-shot 410/45 for a backup gun. I think we need a bigger gun safe. |
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Bulldog1967 Regular Member
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Tess wrote:
Don't we all! |
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Kendo_Bunny Regular Member 
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Tess- I've had that experience at Catherine's before, and I wasn't even armed. The one in Manassas is a little nicer, but you get much friendlier sales people at Layne Bryant. Okay, back to the issue at hand. Just 53 more days until I can OC around NoVA, Manassas-Gainesville-Haymarket area. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Another pleasant OC encounter today in a 7-Eleven. Just as I was getting in the car to leave, a customer who had been in line with me drove up to me and asked what a citizen had to do in order to be able to carry a sidearm. It was a friendly inquiry. He was really surprised when I told him. We chatted for about ten minutes. |
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swatpro911 Regular Member
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Fox wrote: Over the past month I've begun open carrying as it's just too hot to carry concealed. To reduce any problems that might occur while doing so this far north, legal or otherwise I tend to dress better while doing so. If you go to a 7-11 after dark, make eye contac with the cashier and smile. break the eye contact and go about your business and buy the item and during checkout u may say something fun related and when u leave u may say "aight have a good one" smile a little. Criminals dont smile they always have "screw face" just for u to know |
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FogRider Regular Member 
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swatpro911 wrote: Fox wrote:Over the past month I've begun open carrying as it's just too hot to carry concealed. To reduce any problems that might occur while doing so this far north, legal or otherwise I tend to dress better while doing so. Easy enough for me. Got a kinda grim look on my face most of the time, but thats just my face. Say something to me and I perk right up and am relatively pleasant. |
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Past weekend in 7-11, two FCPD there. Got my two bottles of soda, my strong side was facing them and I honestly don't even think they noticed. Walked home peacefully. Yesterday OC'ed with my daughter in Springfield Mall. Non event all around. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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catch more flies with honey then with vinegar. Last edited on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 03:58 pm by Agent19 |
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NVM Last edited on Fri Sep 14th, 2007 02:25 pm by Agent19 |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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9/16 - Fisher Hardware - They're so used to seeing us OC in there I think they'd tell anyone who complained to go find another store. Staples - US1 in the Mt Vernon Plaza (I think that's it - it's the Home Depot plaza). Not even any second glances |
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Forty-five Regular Member
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Wegmans off of Rt. 28. No worries. |
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Bulldog1967 Regular Member
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Home Despot in Alexandria off of Picket today...no problems. |
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Sunoco in Manassas of PWC PKWY, cheapest gas. Had a young man give me a bunch of long stares and inform his parents that I was carrying - obvious by gesturing and stares - but nothing other than that. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Playfully teased by a 7-Eleven manager on Saturday. "I'm going to make fresh coffee for you. You carry a gun." Playfully teased by my waiter this evening. "Of course you like John Wayne movies. You're wearing a holster." (Neat way to avoid mention of the sidearm.) |
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Fox Regular Member
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Chili's & Shopper's Food today. Fairfax |
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9/20 Macy's Fair Oaks Mall 9/21 Target on RT 50 in Chantilly 9/22 Shell at 3401 Lee Hwy(they got robbed on 9/11, robbers apprehended) |
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Fox Regular Member
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Robert's Road Wal-Mart Shopper's Food off Pickett Was in downtown Alexandria today but I carried concealed under a sport coat. Was heading to The Trophy Room on King street and didn't feel like being hasseled, or possibly losing both my Beretta pistols in some incredibly stupid incident, as I was carrying one in a case to ensure the parts I bought fit properly. I thought I'd heard Alexandria cops aren't up to speed on OC. |
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Today, went to Walmart, needed a sprinkler and a pedal for a bike. Got sprinkler, no pedal, no harrassment. Location Fair Lakes plaza. Went to Modells to see if they had one. They did not, but told me about a bike shop at the end of the fairlakes strip mall there past the Walmart I was just at - next to the Bloom. Went in and retrieved said pedals for $11. Left without incident. |
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Fox Regular Member
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I love this thread. I just screwed up my bike pedal the other day and need a new one. Perfect. |
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Did some running around today for the wife. Went to Union Mill Pediatrics off 29/28 interchange by the fire house. No issues, little one is healthy. Went to Fairfax Radiology over by the Innova Emergency Care off 28 S across from Centreville Multiplex Cinemas, no issues. Proceeded to Fairfax Childrens Hospital off Arlington Blvd in Fairfax to drop off Xrays, no issues. Easy day. |
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OC'd at Blue Ridge Arsenal followed by Famous Dave's. It was downright hot at BRA this evening! It's no wonder I don't go there during the summer. Hot as hell and almost zero breeze. |
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Headed out this morning OC'ing on such a fine early fall Sunday. Dropped off a deposit at the Wachovia in Somerset (a PWC cruiser went by about 50 yards from me but he didn't notice my little friend). Then to the BP station next door to fuel up. As I was heading back out to my car from the store, the young lady in the fuel isle next to me saw my sidearm, stopped filling her tank, and went into her driver's side to make a call on her cell phone. Had to wonder if she was reporting a "man with a gun". On to the new Harris Teeter at 15 and 29 to drop off two applications for their discount card. Then to Target in Gainesville for a few things. Off to the Expo Design Center in Fairfax to look at some new gas grills. Then back to Five Guys in Gainesville for lunch inside (it was pretty crowded). Nothing strange happened. No comments, no stares (of which I was aware), and no one asked me to leave. Just a pretty normal day of it. |
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Fox Regular Member
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Five Guys near Fair Lakes mall - Last Friday. |
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OC'd this weekend in Woodbridge. Went in Target, shopped for a while, spoke to employees. No one batted an eye. Then went to Best Buy, same thing, no problem. Drove to Ikea next to Potomac Mills Mall, walked through the parking lot and then noticed their no firearms sign on the door. Went back to my car and secured my weapon and went back in. It wa too crowded and I didn't want to be hassled - I just wanted to get in, get what I came for and leave. The week before I OC'd in Home Depot (Woodbridge). Got a wide eyed look from one Mother and someone's kid pushing a shopping cart. Other than that, I could have been invisible. Last edited on Mon Oct 1st, 2007 03:33 pm by Slowhand |
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This weekend in woodbridge, no events, no stares, no nothing, just a nice weekend of doing what we do... Staples - In and out for register tape that Office depot didnt have Office Depot - In and out that turned into a wondering around for 20 minutes trip, never saw another person out on the sales floor. Target - never a hassle there, but I know just about everyone there.... i'd like to see them ask me to leave there.... Walmart - usual wandering around Smokey Bones - for gift cards Sheetz - gas and drinks 7-11 - a few times Home Depot Lowes Good Weekend all in all!! |
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OC'd at McDonald's this morning. A young woman asked about the sidearm. The usual questions--need a license, and so forth. I took the opportunity to remind her about women being particularly vulnerable to crime, asked a few questions about her qualifications, and suggested a CHP. We chatted for a bit, and she decided right there in front of me that she would download the CHP application off the State Police website after work TODAY! Wait! Not finished, yet! A few moments later a fella came over to my table to chat about the time when he carried his .357 regularly! |
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By the way, I don't want to hear any more guff from the CC crowd after this morning's recruiting success. |
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Slowhand wrote: Drove to Ikea next to Potomac Mills Mall, walked through the parking lot and then noticed their no firearms sign on the door. Went back to my car and secured my weapon and went back in. It wa too crowded and I didn't want to be hassled - I just wanted to get in, get what I came for and leave. That is exactly why I hate Ikea, and their stuff isn't all that great either. |
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Fairfax Home Depot - Off Pickett: Random Encounter I was looking for shelves around the storage section and leaning to get a better view of the stuff at the end of the aisle down which I was looking. Behind me I heard someone say "You got a license for that?" in a jovial tone. I turned around and saw a Home Depot employee approaching with a smile on his face. I smiled back and said, "No sir." When his face changed to a look of puzzlement I continued, "The wonderful state of Virginia requires no license for any of it's law abiding citizens of appropriate age to carry a firearm openly on their person." Emp: "You can just walk around like that?" Fox: "Yes sir." I should pick up a voice recorder for situations like this, as TEX1N has started doing, so I can remember what all was said. He was incredulous at first and seconds into the conversation another individual in the bright orange aprons walked by and said to the other employee in a very nonchalant manner "It's legal to carry one in Virginia." and then to me, all while walking "Just ignore him..." and then just before disappearing down another aisle he quipped, "...or use it on him!" Emp: "Can I see it?" I shifted to the left to let him see the holster while maintaining my distance. Emp: "So you can just go anywhere with that?" Fox: "Anywhere that isn't a federally operated building. Can't go into post offices or court houses." Emp: "And you don't need a gun permit?" Around this time another employee walked by and joined the conversation, saying, "He'd only need a permit if he had it covered." I nodded and the first employee looked even more amazed. I was rather impressed by the overall general knowledge of the Home Depot staff. This employee listened for a bit before wandering off to perform his duties. Emp: "I thought you were an undercover cop." Fox: "Well if I were undercover I'd be carrying concealed." Emp: "Er, yeah, not undercover. Uh, I meant....ah...." Fox: "An off-duty officer?" Emp: "Yeah, that's it. Off-duty. Because they have a license that makes it so they're allowed to carry." Fox: "Well I'm sure a lot of them do carry, but they don't need a license to carry one. I don't think any such license even exists. I think a lot of people just assume people they see open carrying are off-duty police officers and go about their business. Whatever helps them go about their lives." Emp: "I've been here twelve years and I've never seen anyone do that before." Fox: "Yeah. It's a shame more people don't exercise this right." Emp: "Oh no! I don't think everyone should do that! I don't think they should be anywhere but special places, like shooting ranges." Turns out the employee was rather anti-gun. A nice guy all in all, and I remained professional throughout the conversation and stated that while I understood and respected his opinion, I simply didn't agree with it. The conversation was very cordial, and we discussed a number of things, including the safety of Fairfax, the recent loss at the Fairfax City Police department, safety on college campuses, and Virginia Tech. After I asked him to put himself in the shoes of the students who were trapped in a room with a gunman blocking the door he professed he saw some logic there, but deemed the overall consequences of everyday carry to outweigh the benefit of stopping a psychotic killer...just not as eloquently as I have stated it here. He said he wasn't at all worried about my carrying because I seemed like a very respectable person. I wasn't there to change his mind and he seemed pretty adamant in his belief, so I kindly asked him where the shelves were, shook his hand, stated that it had been a nice conversation and we went back to our lives. The whole conversation might have lasted 5 minutes. I love educating the public. I'm gonna go install those shelves now... |
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Great job, Fox! Keep it up! |
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Apparently every Friday night in Sterling, VA in the Lowe's parking lot there's a car meet. Old American muscle to ricers (like my STI heh) to exotic Lamborghini's & Lotus's. My friend found out about it through his G35 club, and I decided to check it out tonight. It was pretty awesome. I OC'ed walking around for about 2 hours just talking to different people, and checking out some of the horrible tricked out Scions before joining a Sherrif next to a Dodge Viper asking the owner just a couple questions. Not even a second look from the Sherrif. If you do go, be careful in the parking lot, while most of the people there are nice and courteous, there are a bunch of high school kids who rev their engines and peel out when they're leaving. Saw a car or two get pulled over for that (thankfully). Other than hooligans, no worries. Gonna hit up the next one next week, and believe it or not, most of the compliments I got tonight were for my gun, not my car (since it's mostly stock). > ) |
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unrequited wrote: Be very careful to give off a "good" vibe... recent 7-11 robbery puts us in a whole new light and I'm sure word's going around their internal communication chain to keep on the look out too: i know for sure if you go to any 7-11 or any place even if that place been robbed, cops wont probably say anything because the way u dress and operate. Especially the day you went to the Mason. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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My waitress on Saturday evening didn't seem to care for the sidearm. "That's scary," she said. I still tipped her well. Perhaps she'll come around. We'll see how it goes next time, if I can remember her name to ask for her. I was later playfully teased by a grocery store cashier. She's rung up my order a few times before, but didn't notice the sidearm until Saturday evening. She said she was going to get a gun for herself in case I got out of hand as a customer. |
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unrequited Regular Member
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10-9-2007 No worries at Wal-mart buying .45 ammo and some other odds & ends. |
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Well, the donut shop reply works. I OC'd into a restaurant at lunch. A sharp eyed staff member near the hostess asked if I had a permit, or was I police officer? I pleasantly said yes, I had a permit. Then I said (while smiling and looking at my belly) that although I knew it looked like I had spent too much time in donut shops, no, I wasn't a police officer. It got smiles. Last edited on Thu Oct 11th, 2007 01:27 am by Citizen |
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unrequited Regular Member
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10-13-2007 Great Wall Supermarket in Falls Church Grocery shopping first time there, they even have a delicious cafeteria-restaurant. |
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OCing today, I had a clerk nervously eyeing my firearm. At the end of our conversation, he smiled a fake smile and said affirmatively (as if he was giving me new information): "You're a police officer" (Imagine the way a mother would tell her 7-year old "He's a police officer." Same kind of voice). I said, "no, sir, just a citizen." He looked annoyed and said, "oh...ok." I thought it was sooooo weird that my choice of career effected how comfortable he felt. I mean, yeah, he doesn't know me or my intentions. How does my career choice change that? Another episode in stupidity with the sheeple and their obsession with babysitters and dogmatic belief that we "trust" our rulers, but not each other. Last edited on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 11:20 pm by ama-gi |
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ama-gi wrote: OCing today, I had a clerk nervously eyeing my firearm. At the end of our conversation, he smiled a fake smile and said affirmatively (as if he was giving me new information): "You're a police officer" (Imagine the way a mother would tell her 7-year old "He's a police officer." Same kind of voice). This is one of the reasons we OC. To help folks see that a guy with a gun isn't a bad thing. I've only had a very few negative reactions, two of which I've turned around by good conversation and demonstrating that I'm just an average fella. I'll bet that if you get a chance and go back there a few times where you can interact with the same clerk, he just might come around. Don't even talk about firearms or 2A. Just ask how his day is going and be sincere. Maybe strike up some chit-chat about the Redskins, World Series, etc. Now that I think about it, his query about your profession indicates a willingness to talk, at a minimum. So, you rattled his sense of "how the world works" by giving him an unexpected answer. Just give him some conversation that doesn't shake his world. I'll bet he comes around. |
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Citizen wrote: ama-gi wrote:OCing today, I had a clerk nervously eyeing my firearm. At the end of our conversation, he smiled a fake smile and said affirmatively (as if he was giving me new information): "You're a police officer" (Imagine the way a mother would tell her 7-year old "He's a police officer." Same kind of voice). Good advice. People were behind in line so I just smiled and told him I was "just" a citizen and moved on. |
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11-02-2007 Great Wall Supermarket in Falls Church Grocery shopping again, no worries. |
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I didn't read pages 2 and 3, so don't know if it was covered. But Do the 2 Tysons malls allow carry? If so, any of you done it? I used to go to those malls years ago, last time maybe 4 years ago. Some pretentious people in there, but I was able to get the fur salon lady at Neiman Marcus to calm down and talk furs with me( I am a trapper). I looked like some redneck to her no doubt. I never saw anyone not in uniform OCing in there, not that I can recall anyway. Was in Mannassas 1 time, got lunch at the McDonalds, but saw no one OCing in there either. Heh, heh, how about OC'ing in the NRA museum? |
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zoom6zoom Regular Member
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OC'd at the SunTrust Bank branch inside the Safeway at Minneville and Dale Blvd. Two businesses for the price of one! And CC'd in Wachovia... screw their pathetic little sign - if they can't see the two I'm packing, it just proves how effective their policy is. (And yes, I'm in the process of moving my accounts to a credit union). Last edited on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 03:53 am by zoom6zoom |
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XD40coyote wrote: I didn't read pages 2 and 3, so don't know if it was covered. But Do the 2 Tysons malls allow carry? If so, any of you done it? I used to go to those malls years ago, last time maybe 4 years ago. Some pretentious people in there, but I was able to get the fur salon lady at Neiman Marcus to calm down and talk furs with me( I am a trapper). I looked like some redneck to her no doubt. I never saw anyone not in uniform OCing in there, not that I can recall anyway. I've OC'd in one of the Tysons. Frankly I don't go there enough, or care, to, know whicch one. Went to Restoration Hardware and then left. No issues. OC is perfectly fine in the NRA museum. |
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where is the great wall supermarket? Is anyone interested having a OC gathering around falls church area? Eden place? |
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Opsgear wrote:where is the great wall supermarket? GreatWall Supermarket of Virginia 2982 Gallows Rd.,Falls Church,VA 22042 Tel:703-208-3320 Fax:703-208-3321 LOWEST prices on produce/asian you'll find anywhere. |
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XD40coyote wrote: I didn't read pages 2 and 3, so don't know if it was covered. But Do the 2 Tysons malls allow carry? If so, any of you done it? I used to go to those malls years ago, last time maybe 4 years ago. Some pretentious people in there, but I was able to get the fur salon lady at Neiman Marcus to calm down and talk furs with me( I am a trapper). I looked like some redneck to her no doubt. I never saw anyone not in uniform OCing in there, not that I can recall anyway.OCing in Tysons I or II is a no no. they will ask you to leave (as has happened to me). |
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...and how exactly are we to know that its a no-no to open carry in Tysons? There a ZERO signs di-allowing firearms. Trust me, I've LOOKED for them. Last edited on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 01:54 pm by Mayday |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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Mayday wrote: ...and how exactly are we to know that its a no-no to open carry in Tysons? There a ZERO signs di-allowing firearms. Trust me, I've LOOKED for them. It is important to remember in most of these places - i.e. malls, restaurants, stores, anything that is privately owned, even if it's not a mom-and-pop - you can be asked to leave for ANY reason. It would be up to you to prove cases where you were asked to leave solely for being in a protected class (ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc.) if you chose to make an issue ... and it is only protected classes who can bring that defense. You would have to be asked to leave by someone in authority. An employee of a store is presumed to have authority to speak for that store. A mall employee (presumably security or mall management; I can't realistically see the janitor being the one to do it) can ask you to leave. He may say it's because you are carrying, but the reality is they can ask you to leave for any reason, or for no reason at all. All that said - if you have no way to know their policy, if it is not posted, and it is not clearly obvious, you cannot be expected to stay away based on a "might", and you have every right to go there for your shopping. Simply be aware that exercising your rights does not make someone else less able to exercise his. |
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Those mall security dont carry gun either so they look awful without it so, they are pissed at us carrying in there. |
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Opsgear wrote: Those mall security dont carry gun either... Dangerous assumption in a shall-issue CHP state. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Another fun OC encounter. I stopped in a convenience store today for coffee, snack, and newspaper. The clerk on duty knows me as a customer. I was second in a line of three at the cash register, when I realized I left my newspaper on the donut display. So I stepped out of line to get it, four steps away, then went to the end of the line. The woman just ahead of me, formerly just behind me, insisted I take my previous place in line. I tried to decline. "Fair's fair. I got out of line," I said. She still politely insisted. I thanked her and resumed my place. As soon as I was back to where I had been, she playfully said, "Besides, I don't want you to shoot me." At which point, the clerk playfully chipped in that he thought, instead of ladies first, children (me) should go first and then ladies. It was no use. I was ganged up on from both sides. |
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Went for a stroll in Burke Lake Parke with my helicopter lure. Alas, no helos were biting today. |
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Tomahawk wrote: Went for a stroll in Burke Lake Parke with my helicopter lure. Alas, no helos were biting today. New best answer to WDYHAG (Why do you have a gun?) Are you a Police Officer? No. Then why do you have a gun? This is my helicopter lure. |
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Mayday wrote: ...and how exactly are we to know that its a no-no to open carry in Tysons? There a ZERO signs di-allowing firearms. Trust me, I've LOOKED for them. Same thing over at Fair Oaks Mall in Fairfax. Nothing posted at the entrances, but while OCing there today was approached by mall security and, after they learned I was not a LEO, was asked to leave. Thought it was interesting though, as a few people have posted here that they have carried in fair oaks without incident. I guess your results may vary.... NetRangerM |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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it might have something to do with the 3yr old I'm OC'ing along with my G20. never seen a mall security guard @ FOM except for the exterior vehicle patrol |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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NetRangerM wrote: Mayday wrote:...and how exactly are we to know that its a no-no to open carry in Tysons? There a ZERO signs di-allowing firearms. Trust me, I've LOOKED for them. I think it's just certain guards at Fair Oaks. I've only OC'd there a couple of times, though I used to work across the street. I carried a couple of times after another poster was challenged there. Nothing is posted. |
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That would make sense. I suppose I was just "fortunate" enough to run into one of the ones who did want to make an issue of it. It is interesting to note though, that when I mentioned to him that there was no posted sign on the entrances regarding prohibition of firearm carry, he radioed back to the security office to check with his supervisor. When he told the supervisor that I had said there was no sign prohibiting firearms in the mall, he got this sort of exasperated tone to his voice as he rattled off that while there was no posted signs, mall pilocy still forbids the carrying of weapons in ther mall. Sounds like he's had people point out the lack of signage to him before. Wonder if they will be posting anything ever? Ah well, just have to get my CHP so that I can carry my Glock without shattering mall security's self-delusion that they are the ones keeping me safe. NetRangerM |
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Well, they WILL post if people keep using the "There's no sign" tactic. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Another fun OC moment. I opened carried into a Northern Virginia McDonalds for lunch today. I had to wait for another fella to finish at the condiment counter. He looked over his shoulder and asked if he was in my way. I smiled and said I'd wait my turn. He playfully said, "Oh no. I don't want to hold you up. I saw what you're carrying. I don't want to get shot!" Or words to that effect. I smiled and told him I was pretty tame. We both ended off with a chuckle. I'm convinced the vast majority of people are not unnerved by a citizen OC'ing. I've had way too many pleasant, positive, or even humorous encounters. Last edited on Wed Nov 7th, 2007 02:08 am by Citizen |
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Citizen wrote: Another fun OC moment. Seems like every story you tell, people are telling you they don't want to get shot... |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Tomahawk wrote: SNIP You know, I just knew, when I saw Tomahawk had posted, I just knew. |
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AbNo wrote: Well, they WILL post if people keep using the "There's no sign" tactic. That's possible. I used to enter through the Macy's nearest the Walkoveryou bank. Unless that Macy's posted, I'd figure to be home free even if the main mall entrances were posted. Had I been challenged, my plan was to say "Oh. Thank you. I didn't know that. I'll finish my business and be off, then." |
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Citizen wrote: Tomahawk wrote:SNIP Well, I mean hey, I'm just sayin'... |
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Mayday wrote: ...and how exactly are we to know that its a no-no to open carry in Tysons? There a ZERO signs di-allowing firearms. Trust me, I've LOOKED for them.Mayday, There are signs at the entrances. The dual doors (where you walk through one set of doors then another), if you look to the right or left there is a small sign that is less than 8.5''x11''. The writing is extremely small and is a pathetic display of what you "agree" to on entering the property. it is there on almost every entrance, there are a few that don't have it. |
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Well technically, western Prince William County is not part of Northern Virginia, but the reality is who would know. Anyway, I've been managing to OC all over the place; Manassas, western end of the county, and Fairfax. I have yet to have a negative experience, but when gassing up my car this afternoon, I got my first noticeable gawk. Two people, a man and a woman, were filling their tank at the pump across the island from me. The woman was in the driver's seat and the man was doing the fillup. The woman noticed me first and stared as I went in to pay before fueling. When I went back out to my car, she was obviously motioning/saying something to her counterpart to the affect of "did you see that?". I didn't actually hear anything, but the expressions and looks seemed to indicate something along those lines. Car was out of state, too. First time. |
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SouthernBoy wrote: Well technically, western Prince William County is not part of Northern Virginia, but the reality is who would know. Congrats! You just gave two people an experience that may profoundly effect their outlook on rights. You showed them a citizen responsibly carrying a firearm. What state were they from? |
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I was OC'ing in Thai Nakorn restaurant as I went in to pick up some take-out chow this evening, and some folks were sitting in a booth as I walked up to the register and ordered. Out the corner of my eye I could see them glancing my way, and the one guy closest to me was keeping eye on me. They looked like 50-somethings, with money, judging by the clothes and haircuts. Possibly the type of people who have the Fairfax supervisor (Jerry Connely, I believe) on speed dial. I always wonder what happens after an encounter like that. Does that guy take note and decide to try and raise hell about it later? Did his eyes open to the freedom he didn't know we have, maybe? Did he just shake his head and forget about it? Anyway, the girl at the counter was cute so I wasn't really watching the guy so much... Last edited on Fri Nov 9th, 2007 05:15 am by Tomahawk |
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ama-gi wrote: SouthernBoy wrote:You know, I didn't notice the license plate until they were driving away so I did not get a chance to get the state name.Well technically, western Prince William County is not part of Northern Virginia, but the reality is who would know. A few months ago at that same gas station, a middle aged couple from Colorado approached me as wanted directions to Dulles airport (this was from the Somerset/Gainesville area). They were basically unfamilar with this area, so I took my time and really gave them the easiest and best directions possible. I was OC'ing the entire time. Not a word or a look from either of them. |
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OC'ed in the Stafford DMV office this morning. MAN! Was that place crowded! The guard was on the door admitting people into the place as others were leaving. If no one left, then no one came in. Waited outside for about 20 minutes before I was allowed in. Seemed like one third of the customers were hispanic/latino. Any how, no problems experienced there with my OC. |
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2007-11-12 Grocery shopping in Harris Teeter on Duke St. across from Mango Mike's. Never a problem there. |
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kaiheitai17 wrote: OC'ed in the Stafford DMV office this morning. MAN! Was that place crowded! The guard was on the door admitting people into the place as others were leaving. If no one left, then no one came in. Waited outside for about 20 minutes before I was allowed in. Seemed like one third of the customers were hispanic/latino. What percentage were White, Asian, Black, Native American or other? I just don't see how that matters. I OC'd at Los Tios Restaurant on Mount Vernon Ave in Alexandria accross the street from Mount Vernon Community School on Saturday evening without a problem. An older couple sat near us and the husban leaned over slighty and looked at my pistol and then he pointed it out to his wife who was not subtle at all as she turned all the way around just to look but nothing else. I carried on about my business and enjoyed my dinner with my wife and kids. |
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kaiheitai17 Regular Member
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ososghost wrote: kaiheitai17 wrote:OC'ed in the Stafford DMV office this morning. MAN! Was that place crowded! The guard was on the door admitting people into the place as others were leaving. If no one left, then no one came in. Waited outside for about 20 minutes before I was allowed in. Seemed like one third of the customers were hispanic/latino. Go pick a fight somewhere else...it was just an observation. ETA: Welcome to the board.... Last edited on Tue Nov 13th, 2007 11:07 pm by kaiheitai17 |
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kaiheitai17 wrote: OC'ed in the Stafford DMV office this morning. MAN! Was that place crowded! The guard was on the door admitting people into the place as others were leaving. If no one left, then no one came in. Waited outside for about 20 minutes before I was allowed in. Seemed like one third of the customers were hispanic/latino.It matters to me as well.. "Seemed like one third of the customers were hispanic/latino". We're losing our country and it's hard to imagine that there are some Americans who not only don't care but support the loss. But then again, this is a whole other topic not suited for this thread or this forum. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Supper at the Tasty Cafe in Springfield Plaza. A little Chinese place. Paper plates, plastic spoons, that sort of thing. Sadly, the OC was lost on them. Nobody noticed. There was no one in the store and the counter staff disappeared to look at something on a TV or computer in the back office once I was served. The staff, when present, were very friendly. Serving size was acceptable. The food, though fresh, was quite bland in flavor. For eight dollars, I would like to have had better. I shan't be returning. Last edited on Wed Nov 14th, 2007 04:20 am by Citizen |
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SouthernBoy wrote: kaiheitai17 wrote: OC'ed in the Stafford DMV office this morning. MAN! Was that place crowded! The guard was on the door admitting people into the place as others were leaving. If no one left, then no one came in. Waited outside for about 20 minutes before I was allowed in. Seemed like one third of the customers were hispanic/latino. It matters to me as well.. "Seemed like one third of the customers were hispanic/latino". Southernboy, |
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SouthernBoy wrote:We're losing our country and it's hard to imagine that there are some Americans who not only don't care but support the loss. I'm not white, am I part of the "losing of our country"? I found your comment confusing. |
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Needed a high-calorie lunch today so went to the Popeye's at Centreville Road and McLearan OC'ing .. Couple of looks, but no comments .. basically a non-event. |
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Needed a high-calorie lunch today so went to the Popeye's at Centreville Road and McLearan OC'ing .. Couple of looks, but no comments .. basically a non-event. |
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If that's the one I think it is, I OC'd there once with no problems, other than a soccer mom trying to kill me with her minivan (not OC related). |
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unrequited wrote: SouthernBoy wrote:I could care less whether or not you're white as long as you are an American in good standing. The "losing of our country" phrase I wrote relates to the loss I have seen in my lifetime of our culture, our history, our traditions, our heritage, and our core values to the angels of multiculturalism and diversity, the two most insidious and dangers concepts facing the future of our nation. We have and are continuing to witness the balkanization of our country. Immigrants are coming here from all over the world and many are building little enclaves of their former lives right here in the USA. The most rabid movements are those from Latin America. Witness what has happened in the southwest, in Florida, Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, you name it. Witness radical groups such as La Raza who would love nothing better than to anex large sections of the southwest. Witness multi-language use in official documents, schools, restaurants, and even voice mail systems ("Press 1 for Engish or 2 for Spanish"). The commonality of a people is a nation's societal glue. What better way to destroy a country than to dilute its common purpose? This was my message. |
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Lets have the immigration debate on another thread, folks. |
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Citizen wrote: Lets have the immigration debate on another thread, folks.I agree, sir. That's why I said perhaps this is best left at a different time. So I am sorry that I opened that dance. |
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SouthernBoy wrote: unrequited wrote:SouthernBoy wrote:I could care less whether or not you're white as long as you are an American in good standing. You got that right SouthernBoy. It's not about racism. It's about what makes a country great. Third world countries are third world countries for a reason. And that reason is NOT race. If you abide by the principles that made this country great I don't care who you are. Born in the Land of Lincoln without a choice. A Southerner by the grace of God and my free will :^)! Oops, I see I'm off topic. Uh, did you know that illegal aliens cannot open carry in Virginia :^)? Last edited on Thu Nov 15th, 2007 05:42 am by Neplusultra |
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Neplusultra wrote: Uh, did you know that illegal aliens cannot open carry in Virginia :^)? Please cite? |
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to help aleviate this thread from going down hill, I'd like to ask a question... I've never OC'd before (well, outside of my own property )In VA I know that if you carry a gun inside a vehicle, it must be plainly visible (people say on the passenger seat for example). My question is this: When you're driving somewhere while OCing, and park to get out and go inside a store or mall for example, how do you go about holstering the gun? Or is the gun already at your side while driving? This is the one thing I've always wondered and I'm sure there's a simple answer someone will give Thanks |
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I leave my gun holstered and only unholster if I'm pulled over. I tried using a second clip holster attached to my seat belt to hold my gun while I drive but that was a hassle. If you choose to unholster while driving I suggest re holstering prior to opening your door and exiting the vehicle. |
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nova wrote: to help aleviate this thread from going down hill, I'd like to ask a question...Actually, you may get lots of answers. First, the plainly visible stricture only exists for those who don't have concealed handgun permits. If you have the permit, you are not bound by that. I carry on my hip at all times. There are times I'm going in some place (like a Federal Government office) where I can't carry; I simply unholster in the parking lot and place the weapon in the safe. I may or may not remove the holster. I usually try to be discreet, but don't really care if someone sees, since I know I'm not doing anything wrong. The discreet part, frankly, is simply so I don't advertise that I'm leaving a firearm where a thief might want to try. |
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Best Buy for about half an hour on Rt. 1 in Potomac Yard. Not a second glance, no problems. Rocked out on Guitar Hero III for a couple songs, got my ass handed to me, and then left. |
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thank you Agent 19 and Tess for the quick replies That's kinda what I figured. Oh yeah I don't have a CCW yet (I have to wait about another 2 years) so that's why I was asking, I knew permit holders didn't need to worry about it |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Sounds good. Alright, folks. Back to the thread topic--Open Carry Experiences in NoVA. Not trying to offend. Its just that this particular thread is more of a report thread than a discussion thread. |
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While grocery shopping these morning I had 3 people (1 woman , 2 men) give me the thumbs up while I strolled through Shoppers with my cart. One of the guys stated "My wife won't let me get a CCW." I told him you don't need a CHP to carry Openly , I handed him myThe other guy told me he occasionally OC's his Desert Eagle  .The Lady just smiled and gave me the thumbs up . |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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Agent19 wrote: <snip> This type of line always amuses me. |
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Tess wrote: Agent19 wrote:<snip> Same here. A friend of mine always tells me that his wife won't let him keep a gun in the house. She's afraid the 3YO will see it. Don't be shocked when I say they live in MD. I usually ask him if he pays rent since he isn't an owner of the house. |
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Agent19 wrote: While grocery shopping these morning I had 3 people (1 woman , 2 men) give me the thumbs up while I strolled through Shoppers with my cart.There has to be something terribly wrong with a man who says something like, "My wife won't let me get a CCW". The word part of this that really bothers me is, "won't let me". |
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les_aker wrote: Tess wrote:Really.Agent19 wrote:<snip> I was a gun owner and user before I was a husband. If my wife had taken it upon herself after the marriage to try to put pressure on me to get rid of my guns, there would have been some real problems in the marriage because that just would not happen. But my wife thinks of guns pretty much as I do. They're tools, much like a lawnmower or a drill.. they just have a different purpose, that's all. |
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Open Carry Experiences in NoVA, please. |
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hello guys i just joined today. Hows things in virginia lately with gun laws? |
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sigman2 wrote: hello guys i just joined today. Hows things in virginia lately with gun laws? Welcome to OCDO! Not as bad as some states, but there are some things that need to change. This thread is primarily for reporting open carry experiences in Northern Virginia. Hunt around the Virginia forum. There is plenty of info. |
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After leaving the gym I stoppped by safeway to get a few items I forgot yesterday and ran into a neighbor. We started chatting and he told me he was heading to the Gun Show ME: I didn't know you were into guns.I invited him to OCDO range day but he has other plans but he did express interest in VCDL (he didn't know there was such a organization). After giving him my other |
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OC'd at almost every car dealership in Chantilly/Fairfax/Manassas with no problems. one Chevy dealership in Chantilly the Sales Mgr. did express some concern but didn't ask me to remove it, the salesman was cool and I turned him onto a source for Sig 225 magazines at another luxury SUV Dealership in Chantilly the sales person was scared, she asked my wife so many question on the test drive about my gun the best response was from a female sales person at a Dodge dealer in Fairfax. it was close to closing time and I was shopping alone, I asked the sales person if my gun made her uncomfortable and if it did i would disarm(unload and put in a case but bring it) prior to the test drive, Blanche the sales person stated "no leave it on, I'd feel safer if you brought it with us." can you guess what we bought? a New Dodge Magnum SXT(wife refused to allow me to get the Hemi V8, I have a need for speed) 11/06 originally posted in Chantilly/Centreville thread but I bought the car in Fairfax |
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Agent19 wrote: the best response was from a female sales person at a Dodge dealer in Fairfax. Now THAT is a sales professional! You'd look, too, if she hiked her skirt and said, "Not if you don't mind my .357 Mag. snubbie." |
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wife refused to allow me to get the Hemi V8, I have a need for speed) did you at least mention the MDS on the hemi that shuts down 4 cylinders and safes fuel? |
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Tomahawk wrote: Citizen wrote:Tomahawk wrote:SNIP Here's one that turns Tomahawk's observation upside down! I bought a lottery ticket Thurs., MegaMillions. Today, when getting a coffee at a local convenience store, I saw the ticket tucked in my wallet and asked the clerk to check it. He had trouble, I guess with the scanner reading the ticket's bar code, so he called the manager. As the manager held my ticket to the scanner, the words, "$41 Million" appeared on the the green LED display promoting a different prize. Feigning mistaken excitement I declared, "the display says forty-one million dollars!" The manager turned to me, pointed to my holstered pistol and said with a smile, "Can I borrow that? I want to shoot you, and get the money." Laughing, I said, "Whoa! I didn't even sign the back of the ticket!" Now, how's that for a twist? |
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bohdi Regular Member
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You do seem to have the ability to bring out the best in folks now don't you sir |
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hsmith Regular Member
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I haven't OC'ed there, but you guys really must try out Chima near Tysons Mall. It is a fantastic brazillian steakhouse. ~$45 a person but it is just amazing. |
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AbNo Regular Member
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Just got back, bleary-eyed, and less than bushy-tailed from visiting the Kendo_Bunny family complex. Stopped at Sheetz in Haymarket on the way up there, as my back teeth were floating at that point. I pass a gentleman and his ~9 year old daughter on my (rather hurried) path to the bathroom. Me: *exasperated sigh of relief* The Dad: *steps into the urinal next to mine* So, uh... you got a permit for that thing? Me: No permit needed for open carry. (While thinking to myself, "Is this REALLY the time or the place to be having this conversation?") TD: Yeah, it's just not too common to see people [open] carrying like that. What do you use it for? Me: Target shooting. It's a nice piece of work. TD: Yeah, I like target shooting with rifles and shotguns. Me: Yeah, I've thought about getting a shotgun for target shooting. They seem pretty nice. TD: Yeah, I don't know about handguns though. They only have one purpose: To kill. But, I guess if you're using them for target shooting, that's good too. *finishes up, starts to leave* Me: Yeah, I don't go looking for trouble, but I try to be prepared. Thankfully, I still had bladder capacity to void at this point, so I had no need to follow this.... chatty guy out of the bathroom. No reaction from the staff, as usual. No reaction at Giant Foods when I OC'd with Kendo_Bunny, though we did run into some girl that could be described as her 16 year old clone, complete with Vietnam-era OD Army jacket. Kendo lacks a holster for her .38 Taurus Tracker, so I had to roll it alone. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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AbNo wrote: Just got back, bleary-eyed, and less than bushy-tailed from visiting the Kendo_Bunny family complex.You were in my territory when you stopped at the Sheetz station (though I do not burn their product in my vehicles). Too bad you didn't get a chance to see what state your inquisitor was from. |
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zoom6zoom Regular Member
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The Dad: *steps into the urinal next to mine* So, uh... you got a permit for that thing? Me: No permit needed for open carry. " 'Scuse me while I whip this out"... Had to be said. |
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AbNo wrote: The Dad: *steps into the urinal next to mine* So, uh... you got a permit for that thing? "Yes, when they're this big, you do need a permit." |
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AbNo Regular Member
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Yeah, unfortunately, my bladder was overriding my smarm at that point. It's a shame, too. I've been on such a roll elsewhere. |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Went to MicroCentre looking for a steal on Vista. Got juked out by the black Friday ad. Walked around very busy store with no glares. Walked past Fairfax County Sheriff at exit without incident. Went to Circuit City (off 50) and Best Buy (Fair Oaks), no Wii's, no stares, no comments. People too busy looking for stuff to notice or care. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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AbNo wrote: SNIP The Dad: *steps into the urinal next to mine* So, uh... you got a permit for that thing? Either start lying about the location of the encounter, or never ever make funny comments about my encounters again. Last edited on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 11:21 pm by Citizen |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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OC'd while grocery shopping in Springfield. Got a compliment from a young man, maybe 19-20 yrs old, "Nice gun." His buddy seconded the opinion. |
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AbNo Regular Member
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I'm surprised no one went with the OC part of the urinal conversation. Ah, public nudity. |
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KodiakISGOOD Regular Member
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OCed at fairfax corner 14: cinema de lux. I highly doubt anyone noticed, because it was a ghost town! i saw the 4:30 beowulf in digital 3D....it was awesome. happy carrying, jason |
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nova Regular Member
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The theater there doesn't have any gun/weapon prohibitions? I guess I'm just so used to AMC theaters! hehe Good thing to know next time I go to Fairfax Corner, because those are some nice cinemas there |
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unrequited Regular Member
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OC'ed on Duke St. 7-11 by Telegraph Rd. no worries, Alexandria Sheriff came in while I was paying and gave me a nod and smile. I was disheveled from just waking up with a huge cowlick so I know it wasn't because he thought I was a LEO. Over to Landmark mall to the dollar store, no worries there. Then to two libraries (Beatley Central and then Burke in Old Town) because I thought my reserved book was at the first. As usual, librarians protect the 2nd as much as the 1st so no worries. One guy came up to me when I was browsing the stacks asking what the law exactly was concerning open and concealed carry. Information only, no positive or negative vibes. |
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swatpro911 Regular Member
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Hope this doesnt happen to one of us. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b4c_1195141241 |
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unrequited wrote: OC'ed on Duke St. 7-11 by Telegraph Rd. no worries, Alexandria Sheriff came in while I was paying and gave me a nod and smile. I was disheveled from just waking up with a huge cowlick so I know it wasn't because he thought I was a LEO. At least he had the common sense to investigate rather than jump to any conclusion. One more better informed citizen. |
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Slowhand Regular Member
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swatpro911 wrote: Hope this doesnt happen to one of us. I would hope that most of us here would have better sense that that guy. Definately suicide by Cop. |
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swatpro911 Regular Member
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lot of times we blame cops but its the training that they go through stress control training and once the swat moves into place, there is no turning back. The victim is going to jail dead or alive just like in movie robocop. I've seen one guy handing me a gun wrong way (pointed at me side ways) i was like well this time you are lucky because you are store onwer and 80% of the time all guns are unloaded, if it was outside you would have one bullet in your way. Thats how it works for swat. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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 Back on topic: OC'd @ Toys'R" US in Fair Lakes this afternoon, I don't think anyone noticed. Last edited on Thu Nov 29th, 2007 06:36 pm by Agent19 |
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Xeni Regular Member
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OC'd at Sprint in PWC (next to Borders). As soon as I entered a young man asked me in nervous laughter if I had a permit. i answered, no - it's not required in Virginia. The older guy next to him asked if he could help me (woot! fast service!!). I told him I was looking for a new phone for my wife and he pointed me over to a section to look at. My wife later told me that the younger man (Im thinking he was roughly high school aged) went into the back area and told all the other employees I was armed. Didn't really bug me but at the same time I didn't get any service after that. I left the store having picked out which phone I wanted and just called up Nextel. They offered me a deal on the phone way beyond what I could've had at the store. So, went from a blah situation to a WOW one. And, the wife will be very happy with the phone once it arrives tommorow. Oh, also had a wierd experience. I was at Trak Side (also in Prince William County) and as soon as I walked in was asked if I had a permit. I replied back with no - it's not required in Virginia. And, the man came back with "yes it is. and your required to conceal it or people will call the cops. I bet someone's already called the cops on you." What was wierd was I couldn't really tell if this person was a employee or a customer. I *assume* it was an employee as everyone kept thier distance and listened to him talk. What was disturbing about the conversation and caused me to just terminate it rather than debate the issue was that he said that 'as a government employee I saw you walk in here and I was ready to whip out my baton and use it on you since I can draw it faster than you can draw your gun. (If this guy's that crazy that he's willing to tell me that he's willing to assault me based on nothing more than carrying a firearm he's not the type to get into a rationale debate with). I mearly smiled, asked what federal agency he worked at and recieved the cryptic response of "Special Ops". To this I laughed, assumed him to be a twit and turned to a guy I had dealt with many times before and asked him if he had any Jimmie Johnson items in stock. The anti- walked away and went to the far side of the store (I believe maintaining his distance) while I shopped. I picked up 2 great shirts for the wife and got a fantastic deal on them. I'd still go to this establishment again but the one and only redeaming thing (outside of the kick ass prices I got the shirts for!) was that my wife (who hates that I carry) was very irritated and upset that someone would try to tell me what to do and threaten me. For once, she said that she actually was glad that I carried because it's no one's right what to tell ME what to do. She's seen the light!!! |
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AbNo Regular Member
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Or, she doesn't want anyone ELSE telling you what to do. |
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Xeni wrote: OC'd at Sprint in PWC (next to Borders). As soon as I entered a young man asked me in nervous laughter if I had a permit. i answered, no - it's not required in Virginia. The older guy next to him asked if he could help me (woot! fast service!!). I told him I was looking for a new phone for my wife and he pointed me over to a section to look at. What type of retarded person would bring a baton to a gun fight. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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you did the right thing. Last edited on Thu Nov 29th, 2007 06:40 pm by Agent19 |
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Xeni wrote: OC'd at Sprint in PWC (next to Borders). As soon as I entered a young man asked me in nervous laughter if I had a permit. i answered, no - it's not required in Virginia. The older guy next to him asked if he could help me (woot! fast service!!). I told him I was looking for a new phone for my wife and he pointed me over to a section to look at. Seems to me that if wanted to be a jerk, you could have called the police on the so called employee as it seemed he was trying to represent someone in authority and have the police ID him to see "who" he is. I have a feeling he would have high-tailed it out of there if you had done that though. |
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Spudstr Regular Member
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11/28 Reston - Harris teeter picked up some dinner for the gf after some fun at the NRA range |
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AbNo Regular Member
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ilikeglocks wrote:Seems to me that if wanted to be a jerk, you could have called the police on the so called employee as it seemed he was trying to represent someone in authority and have the police ID him to see "who" he is. I have a feeling he would have high-tailed it out of there if you had done that though. Which would've been hilarious. |
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NetRangerM Regular Member
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Was down at Blue Ridge Arsenal in Chantilly earlier tonight shooting with a friend. Afterwards, feeling the need to feed our Caffeine addiction, we headed over to the nearby Starbucks for a coffee. After the guy behind the counter saw my new cell phone and geeked out over it, we moved off to the side to await our drinks, at which point he apparently sees the pistol on each of our belts and walks over for the following exchange: Starbucks Guy: "You guys are undercover." (No real question, more of a statement.... always amused when this happens.) Me: "Nope" SG: "Police?" Me: "No." SG: "Security Guards?" Me: "No." SG: "But you both have 9mm Glocks on your belts" At this point the guy seemed to get a slightly confused look on his face, like he couldn't really fathom why anoyne else would be walking around with a gun. Though interestingly enough, he did correctly identify the pistol I was carrying, though my buddy's was something else entirely, so I dunno if it was just a lucky guess. Me: "Yep, no need for a permit to carry them openly in VA" Around this point, my coffee was up, so I grabbed my drink and left. The guy was pretty polite overall, just seemed sort of confused as to why 2 guys were walking around armed. Carried there before numerous times without comment, maybe that guy was new or something. Overall a rather amusing encounter. Last edited on Sat Dec 1st, 2007 05:42 am by NetRangerM |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Here is another one for those who like to tease me. OC'd at a 7-11 earlier this week. There was a rather shabby looking Latino standing in front of the store. He saw me approach. As I passed by him he snapped to attention and gave me a military salute. It was kinda comical, given his shabby dress and beer belly. I have no idea; don't ask me. |
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Oh, and I almost forgot an earlier one, the week before. While driving, I saw an aquaintance waiting at a bus stop after work hours. There was a parking lot behind, so I pulled in and walked over to the bus stop to say hello. I had been out on errands and shopping, so I was OC'ing. I chatted with the aquaintance for about five minutes, finding out among other things that his car was in the shop. He knows that I OC. The whole time I am talking to him, there is a Latino, dressed in business casual, standing at the other end of the shelter watching me nervously and wide-eyed. After a few minutes chat, I leave. A few days later my aquaintance reports by phone that after I left, the Latino gave him a string of Spanish words, with one English word mixed in: Gun! My aquaintance doesn't know the Latino and doesn't speak Spanish. |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Citizen wrote: Oh, and I almost forgot an earlier one, the week before. I'm sure the only people from his country that carry guns are bad guys. Be they death squads, police, military, drug cartels or thugs. Good guys carrying guns (handguns) are probably unheard of. I'm sure rifles and shotguns are not that uncommon but you don't carry them around town. Is this racist or just the truth? Maybe he was illegal and thought you were ICE, he only knew one English word :^). |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Neplusultra wrote: Citizen wrote:I hardly think so. There is no "racism" in the truth.Oh, and I almost forgot an earlier one, the week before. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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SouthernBoy, I realize you weren't trying to make NePlus look bad. I wonder, though, if you would please use the word, "SNIP" or something to indicate you edited a post. Your edit of NePlus's last post makes it look like he's questioning me about being truthful or racist. I had to back track a bit and read carefully to figure out that it wasn't a criticism from NePlus towards me. |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Citizen wrote: SouthernBoy, Hey, this is like the Roanoke Times using my own words to make me say something I wasn't saying in the editorial I wrote by selective editing. Those were the days :^). So many funny stories. But you're right Citizen, we do need to be careful how we edit because we can inadvertantly imply things that we didn't mean to. |
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OC'd in Best Buy at Potomac Yard on 11/23/07 there were two police officers at the main entrance and a store full of people and no comments. 11/25/07 Staples also at Potomac Yard, I was with my 2YO and got a couple of weird looks from an older couple but nothing else. 11/27/07 Home Depot on Pickett St. Alexandria, no problems, no comments or weird looks. 12/01/07 Taco Bell on 7 accross from TGIF, no problems, no weird looks or comments. 12/01/07 Cleaners located at Potomac Yard, no comments there either aside from the compliments I got about my 2YO son being so handsome, yeah it runs in the family |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Ok, gentlemen. Not that familiar with the rule niceties, so please don't think I was trying to offend or chastise anyone. My point was simple. Over recent years we Americans have become (been socially forced perhaps?) to adopt political correct speech codes and manners at the cost of facts, truthfulness, and common sense. This has reached extreme cases in, of all places, college campuses. If a Central or South American male is observed fleeing the scene of a crime, is it wrong to give a discription of an Hispanic male blah, blah blah? Of course not, but since these individuals commit a high degree of crime in the country, such descriptions would be rather common in certain areas and God forbid, we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings with the truth, now do we? We could also say that if we removed two demographic racial types from violent crime statistics, the U.S. would have lower rates than almost every other country in the world. But once again, we can't say that can we? Facts are facts and the truth is the truth, regardless of what others might think or feel. It's just the way it is. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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Trader Joe's in Centreville Radio Shack in Centreville Books a Million In Reston Safeway in Herndon and Centreville Party City In Chantilly Last edited on Mon Dec 10th, 2007 05:06 pm by Agent19 |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Yep, I wrote something I didn't want to and now can't delete it because I'm ignorant of how to do so. Other than that, go 2A!!! Last edited on Tue Dec 4th, 2007 05:12 am by Neplusultra |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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Neplusultra wrote: Yep, I wrote something I didn't want to and now can't delete it because I'm ignorant of how to do so. Other than that, go 2A!!! You can edit the post to delete what you want, and post the revised one. If the revision leaves an empty pane, you simply post "post deleted by author" and folks know what that means. Now back to OC in NOVA ..... |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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Non event went Christmas shopping a Fair Oaks mall and Toys r us in Fair Lakes. Edit: silly typo Last edited on Tue Dec 18th, 2007 07:28 pm by Agent19 |
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Last week I was speaking with a woman I work with, who is in the process of moving to York Co. from Vienna, VA. She mentioned a recent trip to Sears up there, during which she saw a man OC'ing a pistol, and seemed non-plussed that something like that could happen without repercussions. I took the opportunity to explain the legality of OC, and the necessity of OC if carrying in a restaurant serving alcohol. I explained that I carried openly in such situations on a regular basis, and had never run into any significant problems with it. She seemed a bit amused, but not alarmed. I told he to keep her eye out for OC'ers in restaurants in Vienna.  |
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bohdi Regular Member
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OC'd today at South Run Park indoor arena during Lacrosse Match for kids. Went to Sully Station Popeye's afterwards. No issues at either location. "Our" lacrosse team was readily beaten, though it's pretty unstructured at this point as it's the off season. |
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ososghost Regular Member
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OC'ed in Target at Potomac Yard in Alexandria on 12/11/07 I was there with my 3YO buying a Mario Bros. cartoon dvd set, what can I say my son is nuts about anything Mario. No problems at all |
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unrequited Regular Member
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OC'ed with shoulder in Landmark Mall today... no stares or looks until I was talking to a nice Chinese importer who owns her own store and a security guard came in to drop off a security bulletin flyer (I guess the week's reports or something). He waited around a couple seconds to hear our conversation and when he realized it was a friendly one he left, hanging out in the hall waiting for me to leave. When I left he looked at me and kind of huffed and shook his head. I didn't pay him any mind and turned and walked away. I left shortly but was there for about an hour with no problems whatsoever. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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12/18 Foster's Grille in Chantilly A patron asked me what I was carrying so I informed him. Later while the three of us were waiting in line, he politely asked who we worked for. I briefly explained VA law and handed him a Yellow VCDL Gun laws card. He thanked us and I invited him to check out VCDL's web site. Last edited on Wed Dec 19th, 2007 12:57 pm by Agent19 |
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ama-gi Regular Member
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unrequited wrote: OC'ed with shoulder in Landmark Mall today I presume you mean shoulder holster. What kind? Does that work well for you? |
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Spudstr Regular Member
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OC'd saturday in.. Costco in leesburg Petco in leesburg |
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unrequited Regular Member
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ama-gi wrote:unrequited wrote:OC'ed with shoulder in Landmark Mall today Serpa harness for the CQC holster that I've written about a dozen times heh. Every time it comes up I recopy the same post. > ) copy/pasted my rig from another thread: "I've been using the Blackhawk CQC w/Serpa Retention. It's got a little index-finger lockout which is so natural to unhook, and it's quick and easy. Usually it's on the matching shoulder harness with matching double-stack mag holster x2, or recently since I picked up a cheap! Surefire G2, a matching light holster on the two mini-picatinny rails under my right armpit." It's $45 for the holster which is paddle/belt OWB (both) and $50 for the shoulder harness so for $100 you're set for any occasion besides concealed. The mag carrier and/or light carrier are both $20 each, plus they can stand alone on the belt if you don't want to use them on the shoulder harness. All in all, $140 for a modular easy to customize system which can change with whatever firearm you end up buying (as long as there's a Blackhawk holster for it) is a pretty good deal in my eyes. The only other holster I own is a Crossbreed IWB for CC, and I wear all three in various rotation daily. |
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zoom6zoom Regular Member
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Monday, American Barber Shop, Dale City. |
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ama-gi Regular Member
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unrequited wrote: ama-gi wrote: |
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unrequited wrote: SNIP... When I left he looked at me and kind of huffed and shook his head...SNIP He was probably jelaous he couldn't carry in the mall. I would never go in Landmark with out a gun. That place scares me. |
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AbNo Regular Member
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Carried in Haymarket Sheetz again on Tuesday evening. Didn't get asked if I had a permit for "that thing" while standing at the urinal this time. |
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zoom6zoom Regular Member
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Starbucks in Annandale this evening. Of course, I wasn't alone - at least a dozen of us met up before the VCDL meeting. |
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Oc'ed tonight at CARPOOL (billiards hall) in Arlington and then later in Tara Thai restaurant across the street (Fairfax Ave). No problems, don't think any one noticed at all. |
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wchiang Regular Member 
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OCed @ David's Bridal in Springfield on 12/21. Non-event except for a bunch of wide-eyed brides to be. |
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unrequited Regular Member
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wchiang wrote:OCed @ David's Bridal in Springfield on 12/21. Non-event except for a bunch of wide-eyed brides to be. ...you getting married!?! OC'ed at Whole Foods in Alexandria this morning while the g/f was shopping and I was getting breakfast. |
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unrequited wrote...you getting married!?! Not yet. The gf is a bridesmaid so she had to go try on some dresses. Afterward, we dropped by Jared's Galleria to look at some shiny stuff. They don't allow firearms on the premises, so I just carried an open holster. The security guard there seemed to get nervous when he saw it and continually eyed us around. Eff them. I'll go spend my 2 months salary somewhere else. Last edited on Sat Dec 22nd, 2007 09:14 pm by wchiang |
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SouthernBoy wrote: Ok, gentlemen. Not that familiar with the rule niceties, so please don't think I was trying to offend or chastise anyone. My point was simple. Southernboy, I'd point out that many of the offenses that people are locked up for these days are due to "crimes" that have harmed no other. It is only because the State has outlawed so many things that many are deemed "criminals." For instance, if the vicitm disarmament crowd successfully gained the ears of more in Congress it would likely mean many on this forum would no longer be considered law-abiding, though our actions will have not changed. I recognize that this post is off-topic but thought it worth pointing out. |
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zoom6zoom Regular Member
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...you getting married!?! Just remember, if you need "something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue", consider: A classic S&W wheelgun (old and blue) with fresh ammo (new) in a borrowed holster. Gotcha covered. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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MolonLabe! wrote: SouthernBoy wrote:Yes sir, you're correct there.Ok, gentlemen. Not that familiar with the rule niceties, so please don't think I was trying to offend or chastise anyone. My point was simple. I wish to clarify something regarding my post. I was trying to point out the issue of how stating the truth or a fact has entered the realm of political correctness, and therefore must be avoided if we are in danger of crossing that line. I find this state of affairs rather repugnant because it continues the "group" concept and that of certain classes being kept in the "victim" container which also makes them immune to factual data. In other words, if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck... Merry Christmas to you and I did read the book from which you got your handle. I read both of his books and they are sitting right behind me on a book shelf in my study as I write these words. |
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Two Gun-Friendly Places 1: Cameo Coins & Collectibles in Vienna, VA: Carried there and the owner, assuming I had a permit, told me, "We're very gun friendly here! I like to see people carrying. The more guns the better!" He paused and added, "But I don't like to see people without permits carrying. Open Carry, concealed, whatever, but I don't think people without permits should carry." Seeing as the comments were mostly favorable, I smiled and thanked him for his kind words, told him I'd be back and finished my shopping. 2: Blockbuster Video, Duke Street: Carried there as I have without incident many times and the guy behind the counter says casually to his co-worker, "Hey this guy's packin'!" After telling me my total, they then proceed to joke, "how much did you say? How much?? " jokingly implying I would force them to give me a lower price...all in good humor. Last edited on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 07:31 pm by ama-gi |
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Last weekend when at the Safeway on Lee Hgwy in the Cherrydale neighborhood (where I've open carried a couple of dozen times, no problem) one of the baggers helping another customer noticed my firearm and asked if I was a cop. I said "no" in a nice tone and continued to bag my groceries. He then stated, "But you have a gun?" I explained to him the VA law (or rather, lack of it) regarding open carry and he was appreciative. As I turned around to leave a women and her ~11yr old son were standing nearby looking at me. Initially I thought the woman was going make an anti-gun comment or say that I was scaring her son etc. but instead I was pleasantly suprised when she told me that she carries concealed sometimes and gave me props for open carrying. She said she'd heard that more folks were doing it in VA but hadn't seen it. We had a good conversation and despite the fact that she said her sister works for the feds, she noted that she doesn't trust the government. Hopefully we'll soon see her around open carrying soon too. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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MolonLabe! wrote: SNIP Last weekend when at the Safeway on Lee Hgwy in the Cherrydale neighborhood. Great post! I OC'd in a central VA jurisdiction over the holiday. I'll keep the report short this time. I had six people comment. Five were favorable. The one unfavorable commenter reduced the intensity of their mild objection when I explained that bad guys don't wear holsters. |
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AbNo Regular Member
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Citizen wrote:bad guys don't wear holsters. Consider that stolen for later use. |
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McDonalds, back side of Potomac Mills Mall area - not one just off front of Prince William County parkway, about 6 PM on the 6th. Dinner with family after shopping at Ikea. Young man of 11 asked me about my weapon, what kind it was etc. Asked me if I was LEO, told him no, FBI, told him no, anything? Told him no, just a regular guy and it wasn't illegal for a law abiding citizen to carry a weapon like this. He asked me if you needed a permit, told him it wasn't required in the state of VA. The adult male next to him nodded in agreement and didn't say much. He wanted to know what kind of gun it was and how much ammo it carried and I told him. That's when things got interesting. At this point young lad asked me if you were allowed to do that if you had broken any laws, and if you had been to Juvi? At this point I began to wonder a bit more about this young man. He was with one adult and a group of other kids - they appeared to be of varying ages & backgrounds/ethnicity - none of them were related, this young man was caucasian. I suspected that they may be troubled youth on a supervised night out. So I told him I supposed that (broken any laws) depended on what laws you broke and how far in the past it was. He told me assault with a deadly weapon. WOW. I let him know that theres a chance if he kept his nose clean and learned from his mistakes there's a possibility it could happen. I didn't know for sure but at this point I felt it was best to give the lad something to keep out of trouble for, and to keep the adult supervising him from having to deal with any more than he already had on his hands. He asked me so why do you carry, is it to protect your family? I said yes. He told me that's why I want to get a gun too. I can't imagine what an 11 year old needs a gun for, or why he would feel he needs one to protect his family at his age, but the kid apparently was in Juvinile detention already once. I didn't find out if it was to protect his family or himself or what the conditions were, looking back I should have. Interesting encounter. Hopefully he received the right incentive to stay clean. |
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hsmith Regular Member
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OC'ed at Total Wine in McLean last night, picked up two bottles from Duckhorn Vineyards. An amazing wine. Non-event. I think someone working there did a double take but no one said a thing. Also, I was at Wal-Mart in Fair Oaks this past weekend, word of caution IF you tend to concealed carry - they are getting their ABC license. |
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AbNo Regular Member
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hsmith wrote:OC'ed at Total Wine in McLean last night, picked up two bottles from Duckhorn Vineyards. An amazing wine. Non-event. I think someone working there did a double take but no one said a thing. Are they getting an on-site consumption license? That's the only one that matters. |
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wchiang Regular Member
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AbNo wrote:Are they getting an on-site consumption license? That's the only one that matters. Actually, I think it is only a lincese to sell onsite. Pretty sure it's not for consumption. |
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wchiang wrote: AbNo wrote:Are they getting an on-site consumption license? That's the only one that matters. here is the code section regarding this matter it can be found under 18.2-308 J3. No person shall carry a concealed handgun onto the premises of any restaurant or club as defined in § 4.1-100 for which a license to sell and serve alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption has been granted by the Virginia Alcoholic Beverage Control Board under Title 4.1 of the Code of Virginia; however, nothing herein shall prohibit any sworn law-enforcement officer from carrying a concealed handgun on the premises of such restaurant or club or any owner or event sponsor or his employees from carrying a concealed handgun while on duty at such restaurant or club if such person has a concealed handgun permit. happy carrying jason |
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wchiang Regular Member
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Got my first "event" after OC-ing for several months. I was at the Giant on Ashburn Village Blvd here in Ashburn. As I was bagging the groceries, the manager runs up to me and asks for my concealed carry permit. I was like, "um, I'm not conceal carrying and you don't need a permit for open carrying." She insisted on seeing my drivers license and calling the sheriff's office "to find out". She seemed pretty dead set on needing a conceal carry license for open carrying. No logic in that really. I said I would be happy to give her my name and number if I was in violation of their store policy. We waited for a couple of minutes at which she came back and said it was legal. She continued to make a remark on how we don't live in an age of "cowboys and indians". She expressed that she was extremely uncomfortable in the presence of firearms. I asked the classic "are you uncomfortable if a police officer has a gun?" She said no but stated that the police are in uniform, have "permits" and are "trained". She also continued to state that her husband had a "federal concealed carry permit" which allowed him to CC. She was really hung up on how uncomfortable it made her feel and how her customers would feel because it was so "unusual". (Nobody complained I'm pretty sure) In the end, she didn't say it wasn't allowed other than that it made her "extremely uncomfortable". I guess the only course of action is to continue carrying and warm her up to the idea. The manager's name was Diana. |
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kaiheitai17 Regular Member
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Complain to Giant headquarters and her boss about her harassment of a law abiding customer and how embarassed you were to be chastised and treated in such a rude manner in public in their store. |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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kaiheitai17 wrote: Complain to Giant headquarters and her boss about her harassment of a law abiding customer and how embarassed you were to be chastised and treated in such a rude manner in public in their store. Eh, either that or just send her a letter to once again allay her fears. You get attract flys with honey than vinegar :^). Assure her that you (wchiang) are a law abiding citizen who is only interested in doing your part to protect society as the police can't be everywhere, etc, etc. The more contact these types have with us as polite and respectful citizens who are not out to cause or to get them in trouble, the more they will see the light that we are on their side. Or really, that they come over to our side. |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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wchiang wrote: She continued to make a remark on how we don't live in an age of "cowboys and indians". It's always good, if you can think on your feet quick enough, to come up with a good retort to these types of crazy statements. Now, I'm not saying I would have thought of this quick enough myself if I was in this situation but I would have said: "That's right we don't, we live in an age of thugs and rape victims." Always good to bring home an issue that the other person may take or relate to personally. You know between this and the other post you two guys caused me to burn the hell out of my steak! You owe me :^)! Last edited on Thu Jan 10th, 2008 03:53 am by Neplusultra |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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I'm in NePlusUltra's camp. Forego the complaining. It just opens the door to corporate lawyers recommending forbidding firearms. Maybe a nice note. Maybe just speak to her when you're in the store. Give her a chance to warm to you. |
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wchiang Regular Member
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I agree with not harrassing her any further with a letter. I'll probably just drop off one of those VCDL info sheets next time I'm there. I should probably start carrying those as well. One of the main reasons for me personally OC-ing is to get the opportunity to engage people about firearms. More of a coffee table method to start a hearty discussion. I suppose it's a political statement in itself. Anyone know where I can find one of those VCDL pamphlets? Neplusultra wrote: I would have said: "That's right we don't, we live in an age of thugs and rape victims. +1. Carolyn & I lol-ed Last edited on Thu Jan 10th, 2008 04:41 am by wchiang |
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The yellow cards are usually available at the VCDL meetings, and the membership cards that were just sent out have one in them. |
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wchiang Regular Member
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longwatch wrote: The yellow cards are usually available at the VCDL meetings, and the membership cards that were just sent out have one in them. Anyplace I can find them online and print out copies? |
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longwatch Founder's Club Member
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Not that I know of but that is an excellent idea. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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Dropped a few in the waiting area when I was waiting to get my car serviced. I have a few that I could let you have. PM me and we can arrange a quick meet up. |
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wchiang Regular Member
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I met up with Agent 19 tonight and he hooked me up with some VCDL pamphlets. He's a great guy and very friendly. If you think Geraldo nutted himself over my "arsenal" then he would have violently shat himself over Agent19s collection! |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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It was nice to meet you Wayne. Geraldo is a WOS and I would never speak to him. I would be very careful when speaking to any reporters. Most reporters have a way of twisting things and would surely label me and most members of this forum as nuts. WOS= Waste Of Skin |
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wchiang wrote: longwatch wrote:The yellow cards are usually available at the VCDL meetings, and the membership cards that were just sent out have one in them. It's a little bigger, but you can d/l & print this one: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum61/3356.html |
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longwatch wrote: The yellow cards are usually available at the VCDL meetings, and the membership cards that were just sent out have one in them. Are any of these cards going to be brought to the Lobby Day Event on the 21st? If so, I would like to get at least one of them. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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If you haven't joined VCDL do so, you will be sure to get at least one . There a plenty of reasons to join. You can get them at VCDL meetings, the next one being Jan. 16th. http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/7227.html EDIT: I will probably have a few with me. Since I was out of town and sick over the hoilday I didn't hand many out.  Last edited on Fri Jan 11th, 2008 02:06 pm by Agent19 |
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AbNo Regular Member
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I usually keep a few on hand, since I picked up a stack at the H'burg gun show when I was working the table. Anyway, back to NOVA carry. |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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Carried to the South County Government Center on Richmond Highway in Fairfax County today. There was a scheduled "Town Hall" meeting with Delegate Kris Amundson and Senator Toddy Puller. No signs once I got in the government center, so I asked the guard, who simply said "Second Floor". I took the elevator to the second floor, then had to go looking, as there were no signs there either. Once I got in to the room and signed in, I mentioned to another woman who had had the same issue I did that I would go back to the elevator foyer and direct people to the right place. One of the regulars said "Anyone who's ever been here before knows" at which point I informed her I was a constituent who'd never been there before, and there were many conference rooms. At no time did anyone affiliated with Amundson OR Puller come out to help the constituents find the place. I guided a couple of dozen people who got off the elevator and started looking around because they didn't know either. A few wide eyes, but not much. One double-take, and a gasp. I said "Excuse me, ma'am" and she said "The gun". I answered "I carry it everywhere" and she continued on in. That woman left before the meeting started. As she went out, she apparently asked me if I was a citizen or a guard, but I didn't hear her clearly. I said "I'm sorry, I didn't hear you." She said "Are you a citizen?" and I replied "Of course I'm a citizen." Then she said "I didn't mean that like it sounded. Are you a guard?" When I said "No" she said "so you can carry like that, as long as you don't conceal?" and I said "Yes, if I choose to conceal, I have to carry my permit." And then she went down the elevator. I wasn't thinking fast enough. I should have asked if she'd feel more comfortable with armed guards everywhere. Probably not a good tactical move, but it would have made a good line. |
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Agent19 wrote: If you haven't joined VCDL do so, you will be sure to get at least one I have joined but have not gotten the membership packet yet, something else to look forward to. I would love to go to the meeting but I'll be at work in Fairfax until 0700 the next morning. I think that the first chance that I'll get to meet some of the people here will be on the Lobby Day in Richmond. |
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Sorry I missed that meeting, Tess. I remember the last one I went to was in the library on Sherwood Hall Ln. You can Citizen were there, and the audience was mostly a stereotype of liberals. "Regulars", and they feel like it's their little private get-together, I guess. |
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So I meant to ask, did any OCr's participate in the "no-pants ride" on the Metro that was supposed to happen today? |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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Tomahawk wrote: So I meant to ask, did any OCr's participate in the "no-pants ride" on the Metro that was supposed to happen today? Wasn't it supposed to be in DC? |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Target Centreville, Target Fairlakes, dreaded BestBuy Fair Lakes, no issues, stares or anything out of the ordinary. Just a normal bunch of trips, as it should be. |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Ok, this thread may or may not be the best place to put this, but I had to start somewhere. I check out Fairfax Counties incidents blotter every so often to find out what's going on. This is at least the second suspected LEO impersonator in the area, the first one got caught. The concern I have is that if this knucklehead is stopping people, getting their addresses off their drivers licenses, how long do you all think it's going to be before that person becomes a home invasion victim or worse? Possible Police Impersonator An 18-year-old Burke woman was stopped by a possible police impersonator shortly before 10 p.m. on Saturday, January 19. The victim was traveling southbound on the Fairfax County Parkway near Lee Highway when a burgundy compact car pulled up behind her with a blue light flashing on the dashboard. The victim pulled over and the driver of the compact stopped behind her. The driver got out and approached the victim, asked for her driver’s license and went back to his car. After a few moments, the suspect came back to the victim’s car, handed her license back and told her to drive more carefully. The victim was not injured. The suspect returned to his car and drove away. The suspect was described as white, in his 30s, about 5 feet 7 inches tall, weighing about 140 pounds. He wore a tan shirt and black pants. Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Solvers at 1-866-411-TIPS/8477 or Fairfax County Police at 703-691-2131. |
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Ok, late this afternoon, I had my first "encounter" with an LEO. I do the grocery shopping in our family and this afternoon, I was shopping at the Shopper's Food Warehouse in Somerset Plaza just west of Gainesville, VA. I was also OC'ing. As I was trying to locate something at the far end of an isle, a Prince William sheriff's deputy turned the corner at the top end of the isle and did a somewhat fast walk down in my direction. My strong side was fully exposed to him. The thought occurred to me that a customer had called 911 to report a "man with a gun" in the food store. But as the deputy passed close to me, I said "Hi" to him and he acknowledged and kept on walking. He didn't pause or stop or do anything. Now put yourself in his shoes. Here's a man, dressed in jeans and a rugby with the tail hanging out (my normal work attire), with a grocery cart half full of grocery items. Does he for one moment think that this guy is in the store to commit a robbery or something else more devious? I doubt it. Anyway, it was my first direct encounter with an LEO while OC'ing and it turned out to be a non-event. |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Congrats on the fly-by mother goose Glad to hear it was just another day at the grocery store, as it should be. |
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OC'ed at TGI Friday's by Potomac Mills Saturday, January 19th. I don't think anybody even noticed... No events to report. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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xd.40 wrote: OC'ed at TGI Friday's by Potomac Mills Saturday, January 19th. I don't think anybody even noticed... No events to report.To bad you didn't OC at the Popeye's where the 23 year old was killed the other day. Perhaps you could have turned the tables on the BGs. |
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I hadn't even heard about that. When was it? I was at Friday's around noon... |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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xd.40 wrote: I hadn't even heard about that. When was it? I was at Friday's around noon... Here's a link to the story. http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=600&sid=1331473 |
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xd.40 wrote:OC'ed at TGI Friday's by Potomac Mills Saturday, January 19th. I don't think anybody even noticed... No events to report. You're lucky, last year I was given b.s. info by a manager and bouncer and had to lock it in the car: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=18&forum_id=54&highlight=tgif+potomac+mills#p22772 |
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xd.40 Regular Member
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I remember hearing about that. I was there early(ish) in the day, so maybe that had something to do about it... |
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hsmith Regular Member
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OC'ed at the Safeway in Great Falls last night when grabbing some snacks. No real issues. I had a "triple take" from the guy in front of me when I was checking out, but I kept minding my own business and didn't knowledge him. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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1/27 OC'd @ Dulles Town Center. Don't think anyone noticed since I used a IWB and wore a black sweat shirt. Then hit usual places, grocery store, video store, gas station. |
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jao82 Regular Member
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1/27-OWB G20 OCed @ Smokey Bones near Potomac Mills last night. Zero problems to report. OCed in 7-11. Normal stares.... OCed @ Blockbuster Fairfax on RT. 50. Non event...not even a look.. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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Jao82, glad to see you back on the boards. You, Ososghost and I should have a G20 outing. Other Glock and non 10mm firearms will be welcomed, just frowned @ . |
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Guess I've got at least a year to make up for, so here goes: (In Manassas) Giant; Shopper's Food Warehouse; Bloom; Bottom Dollar; Music & Arts; Virginia ABC Store; Barbershop; CVS; Total Wine & More; Border's Books; Hour Eyes; Exxon; Hanadco Tobacco; Toys 'r Us; Party Store; Kaiser Permanente; Dick's; Radio Shack; Target; Zale's; Macy's; Five & Below; Chili's; Logan's; IHOP; Staples; Best Buy; Lowe's; Home Depot; Walmart; Kohl's; Quiznos; Enterprise; Costco; Synergy One Federal Credit Union; PetSmart; G & A Warehouse; Old Town Manassas Fall Festival; Manassas GOP HQ; PetCentre Animal Hospital; AutoZone; Midas; Office Depot; 7/11; Hollywood Video; Game Crazy; A.C. Moore; Shoney's; Sunoco; American Legion Post 10; Rest stops I-95/I-64 to/from Norfolk. May have forgotten others, especially in Norfolk. Reactions - young Game Crazy cashier: "How old do you have to be?" Home Depot, customer in wheelchair: "Do you have a badge to go with that?" Me - "No, sir." He - "You should get some good service carrying that." Me - "Nah, the service here has always been great. Do you need some help?" Exxon - Two PWC leo's w/coffee 'n donuts: Bug eyed, but silent. Barbershop - Barber's are fooling around, one says about another "We want you to arrest X !" Me - "I'm not a cop." Barber's - "And make sure he has to stay at least one night!" Apparently they would not hear what they did not want to hear. One bright note though, occassionally I'll find I've received a discount out of the blue from a shopkeeper when later checking a receipt. Edit to add locations. Last edited on Tue Jan 29th, 2008 03:43 pm by Nelson_Muntz |
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BobCav Founder's Club Member
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Always OC anytime I go out, every day. Yesterday: Springfield Plaza K-Mapart and local UPS Mailing store. Today: U-Haul store on Terminal Blvd near Gilbert's. Non-events all around. |
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1/29 G20-owb Wegmans on Rt.29...got a little weird...spent an hour buying steaks etc. with my girlfriend...all of a sudden I noticed we were being followed by the manager and another employee around the store...Finally checked out and no LEOs showed up..I think we should have an OC day to Wegmans and eat at one of there cafes! Girlfriend wants to get a pink glock and OC with me there next time! Agent we should def. head out there this weekend! |
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bohdi Regular Member
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The wife likes the wegmans experience. I haven't been to the one on 29 but I'd be up for a go of it |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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BobCav wrote: Always OC anytime I go out, every day. You know BobCav you always look so respectable. Is it you or your Userpic? |
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BobCav Founder's Club Member
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Thanks man! lol....you do realize my userpic is Tony Soprano, right? Here's one of me and my wife, drinking from a coconut on the beach this past Christmas day in Salvador, Brasil! (We spent almost 4 weeks there with her faimily - woohoo what a time!) And no...I couldn't OC or carry there at all (and there were some places that I really, really thought I needed to!) Attached Image (viewed 627 times): |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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BobCav wrote: Thanks man! lol....you do realize my userpic is Tony Soprano, right? Here's one of me and my wife, drinking from a coconut on the beach this past Christmas day in Salvador, Brasil! (We spent almost 4 weeks there with her faimily - woohoo what a time!) Oh, green coconuts are the best, those brown ones are so stale :^). No, I didn't know your userpic was some sort of gangster. Although you are not too far from the look yourself. Catholic *and* Italian? Still youse guys look respectable. I wish I could take a month off. Maybe I should move to Churmany. |
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BobCav wrote: Thanks man! lol....you do realize my userpic is Tony Soprano, right? You do know I will never look at you with the same respect I once did......sorry, nothing personal |
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Bob, is it some cultural thing in Brazil where they wear sweaters on the beach? > ) |
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bohdi Regular Member
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I don't know that this thread is the best one for this information, but for anyone interested in statistics regarding police response times, here's some interesting data from 2006 for Fairfax County. Attachment: average_response_time_by_shift_by_station_all_2006.pdf (Downloaded 92 times) |
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This should be the back all those little yellow VCDL carry cards. > ) It's also quite upsetting because ~20-30 minutes is the average meaning as many 10-15 min responses as there are, there are equally as many 40-50min responses. |
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This is just a reminder that when you need the police, it's going to take them a while to get there! And this is just an AVERAGE! Of course, high priority calls would have a faster response time, but think that other priority calls could have an even LONGER response time. |
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wchiang Regular Member
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When I called about the death threats I was getting, they took about 20 minutes. When I got visited by them for OC-ing in my neighborhood before the gun show, we were probably outside for about 20 minutes before they showed up. Not knowing when the call was placed, they somehow managed to scramble the entire squad over pretty quickly. |
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wchiang wrote: When I called about the death threats I was getting, they took about 20 minutes. For the quickest response times use phrases such as, "I have a gun", "Shot's fired", "Send an ambulance". But of course it will still take 4-7 minutes I'd say unless an officer happened to be right in the neighborhood. Like that family that got killed recently while the police were outside. A cop was on the scene in seconds because he was already there. Of course that still didn't help. |
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Headed back to Wegmans's on Rt. 29 tonight...Ill see if I get followed again and will report back. |
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Neplusultra wrote:
Reminds me of the story of the guy who called the police to report that there were folks on his property stealing stuff from his barn and was told there was no one available, but they'd send someone by as soon as possible. He called back a few minutes later and told them to take their time, as he'd shot and killed the intruders. Within moments, there were several cruisers arrived, along with an ambulance and a helicopter, and the intruders were captured red-handed. Of course, the cops caid to the farmer, "Didn't you say you shot them?" The farmer replied, "Didn't you say there wasn't anyone available?" |
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zoom6zoom wrote: Neplusultra wrote:I love it! You could call 911 and do this. Pol: "911, what is your emergency?" You: "Dead.. they're all dead. I killed them all." Pol: "I'm sorry sir, could you repeat that?" You: "I carefully planned it out.. killed every one of them. Poison." Pol: (mumbles to a dispatcher to get someone very quickly to that address). "Sir, please stay on the line.. we're sending someone over right away to help." You: "I don't need any help. They're all dead.. all of them." Then when the police get there and surround your house with guns drawn, ordering you to come out, you step out on your front porch and say, "What is this? All I did was take care of that damned ant infestation I had in the basement". |
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SouthernBoy wrote: zoom6zoom wrote:Neplusultra wrote:I love it! You know of course in both these scenarios you'd get smacked with some charge that probably carries jail time :^). I think the police would be there ASAP if they could, it's just they have limited resorces and so have to prioritize. If you called in a shots fired when none were and they had to abandon an rape call you can imagine their thoughts when they find out the truth. |
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BobCav Founder's Club Member
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Yeah...But funny as hell! OC'ed again in K-Amapart in Springfield Plaza, the VA ABC store and the Giant Supermarket - nothing to report. As I was ready to enter Popeye's, my daughter called with an update on my other pregnant daughter (gonna be a grandpa again real soon!). Anyway, while I was on the phone pacing outside the store, I noticed a couple patrons who seemed nervous that I was carrying, pacing and seemed anxious....I was, but for other reasons! After the call I went in, gots my chickens and drew stares from a couple dirtier looking types. I have to tell you, everytime I draw stares from the somewhat more "soiled" citizenry, it always makes me wonder what it is they may have done to give them reason to be nervous around me! I guess it's the little things that help me make it through the day! |
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Neplusultra wrote: SouthernBoy wrote:zoom6zoom wrote:Neplusultra wrote:I love it! Hey.. it's all meant to be funny. Hope you don't think we would actually do this. |
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1/31 Oced @ Ruby Tuesdays on Rt. 50 in Fairfax...non event OCed @ Wegmans Rt. 29...got followed again! We really need to all head over there and get lunch this week! |
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Glad to see a post from you Bobcav... I've missed your musings! |
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BobCav wrote: As I was ready to enter Popeye's, my daughter called with an update on my other pregnant daughter (gonna be a grandpa again real soon!). Grandpa!? When did you start having kids, 12? |
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BobCav wrote: I have to tell you, everytime I draw stares from the somewhat more "soiled" citizenry, it always makes me wonder what it is they may have done to give them reason to be nervous around me! I guess it's the little things that help me make it through the day! HAHAHAHAHAHA the only way that story could be better was if you were wearing a hat that said "ICE" |
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oc'd and ate at joes burgers in McLean, so damned good! No issues, a bit pricey ($13 hamburgers) but they are from some great meat - had a Kobe burger |
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Carried to meet dog breeder in Ladyfinger outside of Massaponax. They were pretty cool about it and the breeder's wife is getting her concealed carry permit so we were able to have a good discussion about guns and the permit process. We'll be picking up our Cane Corso (Italian Mastiff - not quite as large as an English or Neopolian but no drool) next week - I can't wait. Home security is about a year away from being that much better, lol. |
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Met up with Jao82 and his lady friend tonight at Wegmans. We went shopping for about an hour and talked about pink glocks, how nice and friendly the cheese lady was to us, dogs, and various other things. I had a pleasant time walking the store with them until Jao82 spotted this dessert that is going to give me a heart attack. I ate half of what I bought, which is about a quarter of what he bought. It was a nice quiet experience. Thanks for coming out Jao and lady friend. I had a good time, nice to meet you both. Let's do it again sometime. |
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Haha...Kelly and I had a great time..Next time we need to get agent to head out with us...! |
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bohdi wrote: Carried to meet dog breeder in Ladyfinger outside of Massaponax. They were pretty cool about it and the breeder's wife is getting her concealed carry permit so we were able to have a good discussion about guns and the permit process. We'll be picking up our Cane Corso (Italian Mastiff - not quite as large as an English or Neopolian but no drool) next week - I can't wait. Home security is about a year away from being that much better, lol. Boy you're not kidding. Cane Corsos are the maserati of guard dogs...must see pics! |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Thanks Bulldog. I'll post them when we get her, which will be this Friday. She's not that big, yet, lol. Here' are the parents of our pup, Disco and Zora. Ours is going to have the same coloring of the mother. The father's coloring is very unique as it has a blue hue to the fawn and is difficult to reproduce - you can't really see it in the two photos of Disco but at the bottom of their litter the last one the coloring comes out better. http://dreamteamkennels.tripod.com/training/id10.html |
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Went to PetSmart to get stuff for the new puppy. Lots of friendly people and no issues. |
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bohdi wrote: Thanks Bulldog. I'll post them when we get her, which will be this Friday. She's not that big, yet, lol. What's the deal with the HAMAS dogs? |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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bohdi wrote: Went to PetSmart to get stuff for the new puppy. Lots of friendly people and no issues. I went to PetSmart in Christiansburg for a Christmas present for my Mah. Everyone noticed, no one said anything. And I do not look like a cop :^). |
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Prince William Family Medicine - new patient. Amerigroup Mortgage broker meeting. No issues. |
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Neplusultra wrote: bohdi wrote:Thanks Bulldog. I'll post them when we get her, which will be this Friday. She's not that big, yet, lol. I wondered about the names myself, but figured the pup probably won't start reciting any religous text to me after I rename it so I let it slide. |
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bohdi wrote: Neplusultra wrote:bohdi wrote:Thanks Bulldog. I'll post them when we get her, which will be this Friday. She's not that big, yet, lol. Are the breeders middle easterners? |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Nelson_Muntz Activist Member
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CVS. Oblivious. |
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I think I might have scared a guy while filling up at the Burke Rd. Sonoco. The guy pulled up to the pumped behind me, got out and took the cap off of his tank. I rotated to look back at the dial on my pump, and them from behind me I heard a "Whoa!" and the guy got back in his car with the cap still off his tank and drove around to the other side of the station. I guess it most have been me. There was nothing wrong with the pump, because someone else pulled in and filled right up. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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VApatriot wrote: SNIP I heard a "Whoa!" and the guy got back in his car with the cap still off his tank and drove around to the other side of the station. I guess it most have been me. Probably the gas prices. |
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Citizen wrote: VApatriot wrote:SNIP I heard a "Whoa!" and the guy got back in his car with the cap still off his tank and drove around to the other side of the station. I guess it most have been me. If prices were any cheaper on the other side of the mini-mart, it would only have been neighborly of him to tell me. |
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BobCav Founder's Club Member
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Sad News and Good News: Sad News First: Friday I'll OC for the last time in Virginia for a while when I make a last run to the storage unit and pick up the U-Haul trailer. Though I've been so freaking busy lately, I'll miss the NOVA bunch! Good News: No CHP in Nevada, so I'll just HAVE to OPEN CARRY in Reno!! WHEEEE! (Can't wait to hear what the apartment complex has to say about that! LMAO....) Talk to you guys from the road! |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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VApatriot wrote: I think I might have scared a guy while filling up at the Burke Rd. Sonoco. The guy pulled up to the pumped behind me, got out and took the cap off of his tank. I rotated to look back at the dial on my pump, and them from behind me I heard a "Whoa!" and the guy got back in his car with the cap still off his tank and drove around to the other side of the station. I guess it most have been me. There was nothing wrong with the pump, because someone else pulled in and filled right up. Are you goulish? Perhaps freakish? Bad hair? Bad breath? Plaid with stripes? Clashing pants and shirt? Just trying to understand.... |
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BobCav wrote: Sad News and Good News: You're leaving Virginia for Nevada? I don't understand...... Although I do understand the desert, but you have to check it out in Utah or Northern Arizona, beatutiful!!!. Never been to Nevada. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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Gianthttp://dreamteamkennels.tripod.com/training/id10.html Exxon Quizno's Dunkin Donuts If she does let me know! I know a good agent that can get her on Letterman. Americas funniest animals would probably pay big bucks to see that. Or you could allow her to hold services in your garage, those wishing to attend would be charged a small fee. EDIT: what time do you pick her up? Last edited on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 06:15 pm by Agent19 |
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bohdi Regular Member
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I hadn't thought about that, I might be able to retire off something like that We picked her up today. She was quiet all the way home, even slept in the carrier next to the oldest. So far I'm impressed. They said she would be quiet, but I wasn't expecting that. Got her home and played with her for a bit, she's very interested in the house and her new litter mates (the kids). I'll get some photos up in the next day or so. One thing I noticed about her is that she seems to have the blue hue to her that her dad has. It will be interesting to see if she keeps it. Now I can't wait for the weather to stay warm and start bringing her out to picnics! |
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BobCav Founder's Club Member
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Neplusultra wrote: BobCav wrote:Sad News and Good News: Just temporarily... My wife got a Travelling Therapist position that pays some very nice coin and I can run my business from anywhere, so we're out of here for a while. It's a 3 month contract, with an option for another 3. No idea where we'll settle when we're done travelling! |
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Bob, do you have a Utah permit? They have reciprocity with Nevada now. |
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jao82 Regular Member
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G20 2/11-Roy Rogers Manassas Park 2/11-Walmart-Fair Lakes 2/11-Harris Teeter-Reston 2/11-La Madeline-Reston Non Events..... |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Late yesterday afternoon, I stopped off at the BP station in Somerset (Gainesville) to gas up my car. There was a new white '08 Acura TL at the front of the store. When I went back in to get my excess cash, I asked the man in front of me if the TL was his and he replied that it was. We walked outside and I pointed out that I also had a TL ('04 Anthracite with manual tranny) and another one at home (the wife's '05 automatic). We talked about our cars a little more, then he asked me if I was a police officer (was OC'ing). I replied, "no sir, just a citizen probably like yourself". He added, "actually I am a police officer". We talked about our weapons and he told me that he was issued a Sig in .357 Sig which he liked. He was a state boy. Very nice guy. The conversation turned to gearhead stuff (drag racing and such). Then we shock hands and went our ways. You gotta love Virginia. Last edited on Tue Feb 12th, 2008 08:48 pm by SouthernBoy |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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SouthernBoy wrote: He was a state boy. Very nice guy. The conversation turned to gearhead stuff (drag racing and such). Then we shock hands and went our ways. You gotta love Virginia. Being from the Land of Lincoln I of course love Virginia. Never got the straight poop on the Civil War until I moved here. But, I have to say I could love Virginny even more if,.......:^). There's more work to be done. |
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Neplusultra wrote: SouthernBoy wrote:He was a state boy. Very nice guy. The conversation turned to gearhead stuff (drag racing and such). Then we shock hands and went our ways. You gotta love Virginia. On come now.. you have to finish that last part of your trailed off sentence (inquiring minds have to know). And then there is the "There's more work to be done" thing. Please finish it up for us natives. |
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zoom6zoom Regular Member
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Never got the straight poop on the Civil War until I moved here. Well, we don't call it that here. So I guess there IS more work to be done! |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Here's a picture of the "Hamas" maserati pup, it's slightly out of focus. She won't be this small long, is smarter than I ever expected, and is fitting into our family nicely. Attached Image (viewed 723 times): Last edited on Wed Feb 13th, 2008 01:37 pm by bohdi |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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zoom6zoom wrote: Never got the straight poop on the Civil War until I moved here. So true zooom. I just didn't want to ruffle any feathers of our northern friends. Here's one I get a lot of argument about. The so-called American Civil War was not really a civil war at all. Civil wars are fought between people who are of the same country. When our "civil war" took place, it was between two separate nations. Alas, the winner writes the history books, so you're not likely to ever see that one mentioned. Once again.. not trying (or wishing) to stir up anyone's ire with any of this. |
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kaiheitai17 Regular Member
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bohdi wrote: Here's a picture of the "Hamas" maserati pup, it's slightly out of focus. She won't be this small long, is smarter than I ever expected, and is fitting into our family nicely. She looks alot like a brindle boxer pup...good looking dog. If I may ask, how much did she set you back? |
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bohdi Regular Member
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kaiheitai17 - more than I thought I'd ever spend on an animal with a lifespan of 10 years, lol. Or to put it into firearms terms, I'll probably have spent enough to pick up a nice rifle, a nice 1911, a nice 12 gauge, and ammunition to last for 5 years in additon to what is used for "target practice" - over her life span. The saying you get what you pay for comes into play. I was looking for some very specific qualities in the next pooch. Always wanted a larger Mastiff, but the wife's afraid of the size issue and slobber with the little ones right now. So we got the H2 version, lol. This breed is smart, protective, and known for it's courage (bull fighting and roman war dog), great with kids. They are known to step in while disciplining kids in order to protect them, that type of quality is good and bad, but it's that level that I was interested in. They just "know". I didn't want risk not getting a pure bred, she comes from champion lines, but is not considered a show dog. Her coloring actually made her cheaper because it's more common as a brindle than a fawn or a black. We're probably sitting close to 1K at this point between dog and accessories. Still have to make the first vet appointment/shots and nueturing wasn't included. We don't get the papers for her until that's done. Yeah, it's alot, but they are uncommon dogs. The value she brings from that investment are the things you can't put a price on in my mind, and so far she's proven to be worth every cent. It's been a long time since I've owned a dog, and I've never crate trained one, but she's quiet after two nights in it and only barks to let us know she couldn't hold it anymore. That problem will resolve itself as she gets older though and is fun to watch with the kids. I like German Shephards alot, but I think I've found the only breed I'll ever go with again. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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more than I thought I'd ever spend on an animal with a lifespan of 10 years. Great looking dog. Money well spent. 1K isn't that much for a purebred/rare breed, even if you are required to have her fixed. She'll be priceless the first time she deters a potential intruder. Males get neutered females get spayed. Many breeders will insist on this if the dogs have flaws, not show quality(miss/poorly marked) They are still considered rare breeds in CONUS. Last edited on Wed Feb 13th, 2008 05:57 pm by Agent19 |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Thanks Agent. Your right, 1K so far is a friggin bargain, and we looked around. Thought about going up to PA to get one but after consideration and my wife falling in love with "the cute puppy" we selected the breeder near home. Good catch on the neuter/spayed thing. Whoops I don't think it's that she has flaws IRT show quality that was keeping the price down, the breeders have a love for the breed and don't think inflated prices should keep them out of people who want them as pets. Some websites/breeders list them as high as $3500, and that's to start. There are also alot of phonies out there as well, something I didn't think was going on, that's how we actually met the breeder we selected. Some dude who is a known fraud recommended our breeder to us, it was very strange to hear our breeder tell us that the guy would steal pictures off the web, put them on his own website, and claim they were his dogs. People would send money, but never get the dog. Which is one of the reasons we wanted to see where the breeder was. So we learned alot. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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Good luck with her. OC'ed @ my Dentist office yesterday in Herndon. No comments. Stopped to assist a stranded motorist (28 south bound) on the way home. No issues. Visited Safeway earlier in the day. No issues. No comments or stares while applying sand to the walk ways of a few elderly/disabled neighbors last night or this morning. Wore my empty holster while I went to vote. No comments. At least none I saw or over heard. EDIT: spelling Last edited on Fri Feb 15th, 2008 01:08 pm by Agent19 |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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zoom6zoom wrote: Never got the straight poop on the Civil War until I moved here. Opps, that's right. Down here it's called the "War of Northern Aggression." I'm not a big student of that war and haven't come to any conclusions about it yet. But each side has it's case. I do believe though that Lincoln was the start of the Federal Hydra that we have today. Not to get off topic! |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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SouthernBoy wrote: Neplusultra wrote:SouthernBoy wrote:He was a state boy. Very nice guy. The conversation turned to gearhead stuff (drag racing and such). Then we shock hands and went our ways. You gotta love Virginia. I grew up in Chicago then moved to Mount Vernon on my 14th birthday, just down the street from George's place. I always thought that strange, to live so close to him. Virginia, home of more presidents and founding fathers than any other state, the state motto is Sic Siempre Tyrannus, Thus always to tyrants. But not the best state when it comes to freedoms be they social, political, religious, business, taxation, etc. It's the home of the Dillion rule, great for state preemption of CC laws but not so good for other things, such as how you choose to educate your kids, etc. Freedom reigns when responsibility and choices are the duty of the individual, not government. Not to get off topic! Last edited on Wed Feb 13th, 2008 09:01 pm by Neplusultra |
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Prince William Family Practice CVS PetSmart Dick's SG Total Wine and More G&A Warehouse Barbershop Home Depot Popeyes No issues. Had an excellent day. Exposed another PWC leo to the presence of a legally armed citizen. Found a new trail through the woods with my dog. Drank some homebrew. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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OC'd @ Dunk'n Donuts & Quizno's EDIT: Speer GD ammo=spoken for Gently used Full size 45Acp XD 13rd mag = on hold for now Last edited on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 03:06 pm by Agent19 |
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Agent19 wrote: OC'd @ Dunk'n Donuts & Quizno'sPM sent for Speer GD's Last edited on Tue Feb 19th, 2008 08:58 pm by nova |
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jao82 Regular Member
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2/19 OCed @ Famous Dave's in Chantilly after the range OCed @ Total Beverage Fairfax Non events..... |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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About 7-8 in a Starbucks near the Mason Governmental Center tonight, prior to the VCDL meeting. We've been meeting there prior to the meetings for about 6 months or so. Tonight one of the employees "freaked out" (officer's words) and called the police. As I arrived, one of Fairfax County's officers rolled up. He stayed outside the restaurant for a minute or two, talking into his microphone, until the second cruiser arrived. The officers entered, one first, then the other two, and spoke with an employee. I saw her (the employee) pointing toward the group, and overheard the officer say "They're members of the NRA, and most have concealed carry permits ..." They spoke to her for several more moments and though I was awaiting my coffee and near them, I didn't hear the conversation. The officers then approached the group. They were polite and respectful, mentioning the employees' concerns, and told the group they explained the law to the employees. All in all, it was an excellent encounter. We didn't make any friends of the employees, I suspect, but neither did we make enemies. There was no further interaction with any of them, that I know of. |
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Tess wrote: About 7-8 in a Starbucks near the Mason Governmental Center tonight, prior to the VCDL meeting. We've been meeting there prior to the meetings for about 6 months or so. Hip hip horray for the Fairfax PD! Great encounter! It's a shame the employee was frightened, but I bet she learned a little bit tonight. I doubt she'll like guns after tonight, but probably won't "freak out" next time she sees one and that's big improvement. Last edited on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 04:17 am by ama-gi |
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longwatch Founder's Club Member
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Yup kudos to the Fairfax Officers, they did what I think they should do. Showed up, investigated, saw nothing amiss, and were polite and courtious in explaining what happened. They barely asked any questions except to confirm we were going to the VCDL meeting. I'm proud of my police tonight. |
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longwatch wrote: Yup kudos to the Fairfax Officers, they did what I think they should do. Showed up, investigated, saw nothing amiss, and were polite and courtious in explaining what happened. They barely asked any questions except to confirm we were going to the VCDL meeting. I'm proud of my police tonight. I had my first freakout/negative encounter a few days ago at walmart (see Blacksburg OC thread). I was surprised how bad it made me feel to scare someone even if there was nothing to be scared of. Perhaps it was because it was late and I was tired and didn't have enough energy to think fast? Perhaps it's because I'm still not as confident of OCing as I think I've become? I know I felt like I was walking around in my underwear at first |
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admiral Regular Member
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Why couldn't I have had that experience. Local LEO stopped me saying that they had several calls, including Sears security/loss prevention, on me in Jan 07 at DTC. |
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jao82 Regular Member
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2/21 OCed @ Roy Rogers in Manassas Park OCed @ Target Fairlakes OCed @ Wal-Mart Fairlakes |
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OC'd @ Outback in Warrenton... Didn't provide a lot of opportunity for anyone to comment, walked in, sat down, ordered, ate and left. Non-eventful... |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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The_Side_of_Good wrote: OC'd @ Outback in Warrenton... Didn't provide a lot of opportunity for anyone to comment, walked in, sat down, ordered, ate and left. Non-eventful... We're a class act on this thread. You're expected to leave a tip. Last edited on Sat Feb 23rd, 2008 12:26 am by Citizen |
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roscoe13 Regular Member
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Citizen wrote: The_Side_of_Good wrote:OC'd @ Outback in Warrenton... Didn't provide a lot of opportunity for anyone to comment, walked in, sat down, ordered, ate and left. Non-eventful... Or at least pay |
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roscoe13 wrote: Or at least pay |
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The_Side_of_Good Regular Member
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My wife and I both OC'd at Applebee's in Warrenton this evening without issue. Once again, we came in, ate, paid (with tip ) and moved on for an evening of shopping and such. Several people noticed, commented and moved on... |
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How 'bout OC in VA? Just returned from a roundtrip to Norfolk to visit family. Stopped at many places along the way and at my destination, many of which I didn't bother to take note of. Many smiles, no problems. Thank you Danbus for your activism. (and good luck in your upcoming hearing) |
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On motorcycle for first time yesterday. Went from my house in Dale City to Belmont. |
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Today, to Blue Ridge Arsenal. Was disappointed when the gun was empty. The staple gun. Had to borrow someone else's 'cause I still had plenty of ammo. |
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Funny.... I went shooting there about two weeks ago and had the same problem. I think I spent more time unjamming their staple gun than actually shooting. On another note I finally put my first foot forward and OC'd to Bristow (from Alexandria) and back on personal business. Nothing too exciting, save for my own nerves while standing in an elevator full of people, which is excellent. I prefer that no one notice. Last edited on Sun Mar 2nd, 2008 09:37 pm by Tempest |
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Tempest wrote: Funny.... Welcome! I didn't start OC'ing for a while until I got more comfortable with it, but now I'm fine with it. Stay safe! |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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3/1-Leesburg Outlet mall 3/2-Target- Fairlakes 3/2- Best Buy- Fairlakes 3/2- Meet Nova in the Parking lot of Dick's in Fairlakes. He's a nice guy and about a foot taller than me. |
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Agent19 wrote: 3/1-Leesburg Outlet mall Aren't most of us a bit taller than you? |
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Yeah, but not by a foot. |
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xd.40 Regular Member
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Touché |
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mpg9999 Regular Member
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Today was my first time open carrying (I'm still on my first week of carrying, open or concealed). I oc'd to the range, then to chipotle in vienna for lunch. Walked right pass a bike cop going to another restaurant, but I passed him on my left so he didn't notice. While eating, the 2 bike cops walk over to the side of chipotle, then a cop car pulls in, then another. Nothing happened, but it did make me a little nervous, hoping they werent there for me. Later I went to Don Pablos in Potomac yards. Again, no issues. My biggest fear was that my shirt would cover up and conceal my gun while I was there. I kept checking to make sure it wasn't. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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You have taken the first steps, it will get easier with time. Get a CCW/CHP if possible encase you accidentally CC. May, I suggest that you attend a OC outing/get together, it will help to build your confidence regarding OC. |
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Petsmart at Fairlakes, in the store over an hour. Puppy (hamas dog-Agent19) training class for most of the hour with other people. Not a word or stare from anyone. The mastiff was better behaved than most - I'm really digging this dog. |
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Isn't there a closer class than Fairlakes(Chantilly)? I'll have to bring my Miniature Bull Terrier over so they can meet. Want them to become friends now, so when she towers over him he'll still like her. Since he was attacked (unharmed) by another dog (stupid owner! who got stuck with huge Vet bills) he has become dog aggressive. |
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bohdi Regular Member
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I am not sure. We need to setup a get together soon. I'll talk to the president and find out what the calendar says. The pup is very friendly so far. It will be interesting to watch as she grows how she reads people. Anyone else who has dogs want to get together for a doggie/OC social at my place? Moving to the Centreville/Chantilly thread to co-ordinate. Last edited on Tue Mar 4th, 2008 04:46 pm by bohdi |
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jao82 Regular Member
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Im down.... |
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Agent19 wrote: You have taken the first steps, it will get easier with time. Thanks, I actually do have a CHP. I would love to attend an OC get together, but I'm usually not in NOVA when they happen. I'm down in Blacksburg most of the time. |
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cmbf117 Regular Member
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OC'd today (3/5/08) at a few places: Guns & Ammo Warehouse (met VAopencarry there, too, so that was a bonus ), the NRA HQ Range, and Walmart in Fair Lakes. Uneventful all around...though I did overhear at G&A that letting an animal stick its head out the window of your car could net you a reckless driving charge?! Oh, and I got the call from the Montgomery Country Circuit Court regarding my CWP. It's ready and waiting for pick up once I get back down to school. Last edited on Thu Mar 6th, 2008 12:36 am by cmbf117 |
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cmbf117 wrote: OC'd today (3/5/08) at a few places: Guns & Ammo Warehouse (met VAopencarry there, too, so that was a bonus I'd have to call a BS on that one.... I did a search on the VA legislation website and couldn't find anything... Oh, and I got the call from the Montgomery Country Circuit Court regarding my CWP. It's ready and waiting for pick up once I get back down to school.Woohoo! |
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Fairfax Noodle Co. Fairfax Giant on Rt. 50 |
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jao82 Regular Member
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OCed @ Target- Fairlakes OCed Petsmart-Fairlakes OCed Chipotle Rt. 29?-Fairfax Oced Outback Steakhouse-Reston/Herndon All non-events..... |
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Gas at Shell near Great Wall grocery in Falls Church and then grocery shopping itself for about an hour. A couple whispers of qiang around the store, but no worries, and I even asked a couple stockers for help on finding specialty items. A+ as usual. |
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Hey, folks. I'm new to this partcular forum. I've been carrying for a few years now, and am an active VCDL member (do the booth at gun shows occassionally, was a Team Leader at Lobby Day). I usually CC, mainly OWB under my coat. Your stories are giving me confidence in OCing more. I live in Vienna, not certain how acceptable it might be, I don't see any OC gun owners around here, and I look for them. Should be easy for me, I've lived here all my life and know many of the workers in the grocery stores, drug stores, etc. Don't really OC at restaurants, since I eat alone a lot when I go out (currently unattached). Haven't tried to push the issue here because of pitential hassles. Anyone got any experiences with OCing at restaurants around here? I did an OC lunch at That's Amore with VCDL, as well as Fudruckers in Annandale after meetings. |
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xd.40 Regular Member
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Welcome Glock27Bill! There are many threads here where OC'ers post about their experiences. If you are looking for a particular restaurant, I'm sure that you could search for it in the search box and someone has probably been there. Let us know your experiences! |
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Pho Today on Rt. 29 in Fairfax. Great Pho Noodle Soup! I've never been to an Asian restaurant that wasn't cool w/ OC ... So far. |
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Glock27Bill Regular Member
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xd.40 wrote: Welcome Glock27Bill! There are many threads here where OC'ers post about their experiences. If you are looking for a particular restaurant, I'm sure that you could search for it in the search box and someone has probably been there. Let us know your experiences! Thanks, XD.40 I appreciate the advice and the welcome. As stated, I have no idea how OC is accepted around here. Northern VA is fast becoming like all other east coast cities, I fear. At least that's what i see after 40 years of living here. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Two reports this week. 1) Dining out at a local restaurant, my waiter immediately noticed my OC'd sidearm. It was just before the supper hour, so business was very slow. Being an informal sort of gent he sat down across from me and asked a gun-friendly question. This turned into an almost five minute chat. It turned out he had a CHP himself. This is my kind of waiter. Great service AND decidedly pro-2A! 2) Dining out this week, a fella just walks over to my table and sits down across from me and asks a couple gun questions. The conversation quickly went towards local crime, lasting all of four minutes or so. But here is the amazing part. I was CCing in this non-alcohol restaurant. So how did he know? He'd seen me OCing in public on at least one or two other occasions and remembered me! |
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So what do you guys think? I got the drop leg platform for my Serpa and I want to OC with it. Think you can get away with OCing a thigh rig? |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Wooley wrote: So what do you guys think? I got the drop leg platform for my Serpa and I want to OC with it. Think you can get away with OCing a thigh rig? Different thread, please. This one is for reporting Open Carry experiences. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Glock27Bill wrote: xd.40 wrote:I am a native to the area and let's just say I've been around more than 40 years. You are indeed correct, sir. There has been one heck of a lot of change in this area in that period.Welcome Glock27Bill! There are many threads here where OC'ers post about their experiences. If you are looking for a particular restaurant, I'm sure that you could search for it in the search box and someone has probably been there. Let us know your experiences! However, OC'ing strangely enough for the most part, is accepted without fuss or much to do. You will be fine. |
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Wooley Regular Member
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Citizen wrote: Wooley wrote:So what do you guys think? I got the drop leg platform for my Serpa and I want to OC with it. Think you can get away with OCing a thigh rig? Good point. Thanks for the correction. |
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hsmith Regular Member
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I OC in the more "progressive" areas like Tysons, McLean, Great Falls and never run into issues. I think people are more caught up in "their world" to notice or bother |
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Bohdi, Where did you get the name "Zora" for your pup? Zora means "Dawn" in the Serbo-Croatian language. Are you or your family from that region? I fought, lived and worked there for 12 years... 226 |
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Squib Regular Member
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Olive Garden in Fair Lakes tonight (03/07). Fairly busy when we left. Tuscan garlic chicken was good. Salad and breadsticks always a pleasure. No problems. |
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kaiheitai17 Regular Member
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Famous Dave's tonight on Prince William Parkway near I95. Waiter was pleasant, food was good, the princess was happy (big assed root beer float). No problems. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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I haven't been participating in this thread for some time but because of a few new people who might want to hear about our travels and experiences OC'ing in the area, here goes. First off, I live in Western Prince William County and tend to conduct most of my weekend errands/business in that area, in Manassas, and in Western Fairfax County. For the past 8 months, most of this has been while OC'ing. Here's where I hit today. o McDonalds in Haymarket. Busy as usual. When I removed my jacket I was OC'ing. o Kohl's in Manassas close to the park. CC'd because it was still chilly. o Border's Books next to Kohl's. Also CC'd because of the weather. o Staples in Manassas. OC'.. no jacket. o MicroCenter in Fairfax. OC'd.. no jacket. No gawks, no comments, no screams. |
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nitrovic Regular Member 
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Tess wrote: I have to share another one in which I didn't handle myself as I wish I had. Last edited on Mon Mar 31st, 2008 02:41 am by nitrovic |
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unrequited Regular Member
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nitrovic wrote:My kids understand it and I've been trying to get others in this liberal leaning area to understand it as well. Some have taken a bad approach to prove this point (look at the Manassas Pizza mess). Wow, just start calling them trainwrecks and you'll fit right in. Look up Burke Library and Burke Lake Picnic ( http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=burke+lake+vcdl ) for more "messes". Looking over your few posts here, you're painting a very mixed message saying that you OC and carry into restaurants, but call others out on it when they do saying it's a "bad approach". *shrug* |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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unrequited wrote: nitrovic wrote:Yeah, strange. It's almost as though the gentleman is of a mind one must be very careful when OC'ing so as not to ruffle anyone's feathers. Not that I am advocating being an ass with any of this. It's just that in a free society, you do not have the right to not be offended by your fellow citizens. Civility is one thing, a right which another finds offensive is something else. |
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roscoe13 Regular Member
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McKay's used books in Manassas, no problems... |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Forgot to stop and get kid/doggie gate at walmart on the way home from lunch at Fosters. Ran out to Walmart at Fair Lakes. Got from elderly lady who was in a car as I was walking toward the store. She rolled down the window and said "Aren't you supposed to have that covered up?", I didn't hear her clearly so I asked her to politely repeat herself. What ensued was a good conversation for about 10 minutes and had me flagging cars around hers. She had just been assaulted at Nordstroms at Tysons' in Vienna on Friday. A guy came up to her car as she was getting in and reached inside to inappropriately touch her while asking her something unintelligable. She had no mace, and owns no weapons. She was able to get the door closed but the guy went to the passenger side and got in. She had taken some self defense courses but admitted she didn't stick to it very long. She was able to hit the guy hard with her elbow on his arm as he was reaching to touch her again and that got the guy out of the car and out of the parking lot. Nordstroms caught it on camera but not all of it and didn't get a good look at the guy. She thinks he ran down the stairs and hopped on a Metro bus. The police showed up and took a report. I told her she was very lucky and that while mace was good it wasn't going to always be helpful especially if her attacker was desensitzed to stuff like that. She talked about a tazer but then said people were getting heart attacks because of it. We talked some more about gun laws in VA and she didn't have a good grasp, but she did when she left. She thanked me for my time and I told her I was glad that she was okay, and if she ever saw me again to say Hi. The only thing I did wrong (in my mind) was not offer her my phone number if she had any other questions, but I think at this point she's got enough knowledge to pursue things further if she wants to. Other than that I think it was a pretty good experience and I know she's more educated. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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bohdi wrote: SNIP ... from elderly lady who was in a car as I was walking toward the store. Well done!! |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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Bohdi mentioned, but didn't elaborate ... 21 of us (19 or 20 armed) at Fosters Grill in Vienna this afternoon. A few , but as expected, a non-event. A great chance to catch up with folks, meet some new ones, etc. We had folks from as far away as Richmond and Warrenton. |
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unrequited Regular Member
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One guy walked past and said in passing, you guys are either all law enforcement or the largest group of crooks I've ever seen. I think Tomahawk said "neither" to the guy, and I wasn't really paying attention. |
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bohdi Regular Member
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All part of the public service of open carrying. Wish I had heard that.... |
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Tomahawk Regular Member
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unrequited wrote: One guy walked past and said in passing, you guys are either all law enforcement or the largest group of crooks I've ever seen. I think Tomahawk said "neither" to the guy, and I wasn't really paying attention. I overheard it. I think it was NSL. |
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jao82 Regular Member
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OCed @ P.J. Skidoos in Fairfax last night....good food and a non-event! |
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VApatriot Regular Member
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OCed today: Burke Walmart - I had to loiter a little in sporting goods while I waited for some help at the knife counter, but I had no problems from the 3 or 4 other customers that came through. I got sort of a  from the guy behind me in the checkout line, so I just smiled and nodded.Virginia Arms Co. in Manassas - It was my first time there. Very nice folks. I got a little help and came away with pretty much exactly what I needed. Exxon at 28 and Liberia in Manasses - No problems inside or out. |
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Glock27Bill Regular Member
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At Foster's in Vienna, I had a woman approach me with her 2 kids (boy & girl, 4-5 years old) and said her kids were curious as to why there were so many people carrying guns. I explained who we were, why we carry, a little about the laws in VA. All in all a very pleasant lady (and conversation). |
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Rey Regular Member 
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New to forums, new to virginia, new to civilian life. Glad to see such an active group of gun owners. plan on staying awhile. just wanted to say hi and hope to see you on. Planning on OC'ing myself around fairfax county. wish me luck. |
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Rey Regular Member
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BobCav Founder's Club Member
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Test complete and sat! Welcome to OCDO Rey! |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Thank you for your service to our nation and welcome aboard! You'll find the Virginia forum to be quite active and informative. I haven't met any of them either. |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Taco bell, Fair Lakes, no issues. PetSmart, Doggie training, 1 hour. No issues. |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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Rey wrote: New to forums, new to virginia, new to civilian life. Glad to see such an active group of gun owners. plan on staying awhile. just wanted to say hi and hope to see you on. Planning on OC'ing myself around fairfax county. wish me luck. Good to see you, Rey. Welcome. Please try to join us at the VCDL meeting on the 20th (http://www.vcdl.org/meetings) and/or one of our OCDO meetups. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Welcome, Rey! Never can have too many former Marines on the forum. |
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BobCav Founder's Club Member
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Yes you can! |
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roscoe13 Regular Member
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Tess wrote: Rey wrote:New to forums, new to virginia, new to civilian life. Glad to see such an active group of gun owners. plan on staying awhile. just wanted to say hi and hope to see you on. Planning on OC'ing myself around fairfax county. wish me luck. That's http://www.vcdl.org/meetings.html |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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That's http://www.vcdl.org/meetings.html Well, okay, if you're actually going to do fact-checking and be right ........ Sorry, Rey. |
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Glock27Bill Regular Member
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Rey wrote: New to forums, new to virginia, new to civilian life. Glad to see such an active group of gun owners. plan on staying awhile. just wanted to say hi and hope to see you on. Planning on OC'ing myself around fairfax county. wish me luck. Welcome to Virginia, Ray. I live right up the road in Vienna. You really should try to make a VCDL meeting. Great groupd of folks, very aggressive for our 2A rights. We also go out afterwards for a bite to eat, open carry of course. |
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captkirk9195 Regular Member
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Ok stupid question, at the "Mason District Governmental Center Main Community Room ", is open carry allowed there? Just sounds like a government building, hence my question. Thanks, Jason |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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BobCav wrote: Yes you can! Ignore BobCav, Rey. He's a retired Navy Senior Chief. Spent his career dealing with creating or moving hot air or gases or something. |
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unrequited Regular Member
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captkirk9195 wrote:Ok stupid question, at the "Mason District Governmental Center Main Community Room ", is open carry allowed there? Yup. Lots do to show support and others do to show off their latest purchase. |
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VApatriot Regular Member
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captkirk9195 wrote: Ok stupid question, at the "Mason District Governmental Center Main Community Room ", is open carry allowed there? It is actually a police station that also features two multi-purpose, community rooms and the office of the county district supervisor. So, thanks to preemption, all forms of carry are O.K.. |
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Rey Regular Member
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Thanks for the welcome! I will do my best to make it out to the next VCDL meeting. Being new and all, where is a good place to go holster shopping up here? I suppose online is ok, but I'm feely, touch and poke it kinda guy. Gets me in trouble sometimes... |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Rey wrote: Thanks for the welcome!Virginia Arms (Manassas) and Guns and Ammo Warehouse (just south of Manassas on 28) both have a decent selection of holsters from which to chose. I've purchased holsters from both places. BTW, from where do you hale? Last edited on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 09:44 pm by SouthernBoy |
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xd.40 Regular Member
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Hey SouthernBoy, next time you're in Manassas, let me know! (unless, of course, you live here too). We can have an informal OCDO meet-up. Anyone else as well! Just as you're passing through even. Last edited on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 09:54 pm by xd.40 |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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3/10 Fair Oaks Mall-the family I and went there after lunch. Sports Authority off of RT29- I don't think anyone noticed until we checked out, they appeared to be a little. 3/11 Pep Boys off 234-spent 2hrs waiting for tires to be installed on our non Magnum. One of the employees was extremely interested, I gave him a VCDL yellow card. He stated "I had near heard of them before." 3/11 Panda Express off RT29- the place was empty |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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xd.40 wrote: Hey SouthernBoy, next time you're in Manassas, let me know! (unless, of course, you live here too). We can have an informal OCDO meet-up. Anyone else as well! Just as you're passing through even. I could do that. I'm almost always in Manassas for something or Saturday's and/or Sundays. Plus I drive through every day from work (I'm very car-anal and don't wish to get stones thrown up on my car when on 66). For me and the wife, going to Manassas is "going to town", although western Prince William Country is growing like weeds. |
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Rey Regular Member
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I was born and raised in Texas. I've been stationed in North Carolina for eight years and finally got out and moved to VA. And you? |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Rey wrote: I was born and raised in Texas. I've been stationed in North Carolina for eight years and finally got out and moved to VA. And you?I'm a native with long roots in Virginia as is my wife. We hope one day to get further south and South Carolina is our preference since we've been going down there for 40 years. |
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Rey Regular Member
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I have family down there. Nice place. They don't reciprocate w/VA CCW but they do allow closed carry in an unlocked glove box. |
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zoom6zoom Regular Member
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Couple of stops in Woodbridge / Dale City today. At the American Barber Shop, the barber noticed my Sig after I had paid and tried to give me the LE discount, gave him the no, I'm just a citizen bit. |
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kaiheitai17 Regular Member
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The princess wanted to go to the Todai Sushi and Seafood restaurant at FairOaks Mall in Fairfax for lunch today, so we did. I OC'ed in the restaurant (they serve alcohol there!) Rant on - We all know that concealed firearms and alcohol don't mix cause pistols get drunk so easily and get crazy just being around adult beverages, unless the pistol belongs to a Commonwealth's Attorney or deputy. Their concealed firearms can drink all they want and never get drunk! - Rant off.Any how, place was nice, service good, food was better than average, prices seemed on the pricey side to me. All in all, it was OK. No stares, no comments, no remarks from staff or other customers. Another non-event for me. |
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Rey Regular Member
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In the market for a kimber, and I'm new in town. Any first must go to places? |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Different thread, please. This one is for reporting Open Carry experiences. But to answer your question, The NoVA market is high-priced. Even the gunshows have high prices. There are some gunshow dealers that seem to do well on prices, though. Trader Jerry (out of Roanoke?) seemed to have some nice discounts. Last edited on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 03:15 am by Citizen |
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captkirk9195 Regular Member
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Well I open carried for the first time in public today. Made 3 stops, First stop was to a 7-11 in Chantily. The clerk noticed, but looked right back up and didn't react past his eye movement. The second was to Blue Ridge Arsonel to practice and get a holster that fit better for OWB carry, so that doesn't really count The third was a different 7-11 in Manassas (one I go to regularly since it's near my house). No reaction from customers or staff. Amazing, they don't jump right off your hip and do a dance in front of people or something. Jason |
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nova Regular Member
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I think that I'd be more afraid of that than the other people who see it...haha |
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VApatriot Regular Member
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Walmart at Fairlakes - Made a return and bought a 550 round box of .22LR for $12. . . If only .45ACP was that cheap. Heck, I would be jumping for joy if it was only twice that much. |
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nova Regular Member
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VApatriot wrote: Walmart at Fairlakes - Made a return and bought a 550 round box of .22LR for $12. . . If only .45ACP was that cheap. Heck, I would be jumping for joy if it was only twice that much. I was just at the Walmart in Woodbridge, WWB .45acp was 27 bucks for 100rds |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Let's see. Saturday to Wal-Mart in eastern Manassas off of Liberia for oil and filter to do a change in my car. A few other places. Sunday, went to the reclamation center on Balls Ford Road to turn in 5 gallons of used engine oil. A customer kidded with me and an employee about me packing. Then back to the same Wal-Mart for some more oil and filter for an up-coming change in my wife's car. Today, to Advance Auto on 234-Business in Manassas to get some fuel system cleaner. All as expected. |
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eyesopened Regular Member
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VApatriot wrote: Walmart at Fairlakes - Made a return and bought a 550 round box of .22LR for $12. . . That box used to be $9.97 about a month ago  And I'm sure it was even cheaper 6 months before then...  |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Petsmart, last night, doggie kindergarten. No issues. People love the pup. |
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jao82 Regular Member
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Been a way for a few days here we go.... 58 West Cafe in Luray Va.... Walmart Luray Va... Walmart on 42 Harrisonburg Va.... Olive Garden Fairlakes Petsmart Fairlakes Webers Pet supply Fairfax Chipotle Fairfax Outback Steakhouse Fairfax P.J. Skidoos Fairfax Various gas stations....... ALL NON-EVENTS! Well Actually I had a customer @ Outback last night say "Sir,Sir" and asked me if I had a real glock on my hip etc...I told him the normal OC thing CC thing bar can't CC etc...He was convinced I was undercover as a bounty hunter or working for the government and still is..tried to explain VA law, but the language barrier kind of hampered my efforts! |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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On the way home, I stopped to get gassed up at the BP station in Somerset.. just west of Gainesville. There was an older gentleman manning the register (he's somewhat new there) and he asked me what agency or organization I was with. I told him, "just myself'. He said he also carries, but is not allowed to while at work at the gas station/food mart. I told him that these types of places are ripe for criminals to which he agreed. He said because they make them a gun-free zone, criminals can have their way. I suggested that he might was to CC anyway just to have a measure of protection. He added that he had two guns in his car; a Smith & Wesson 9mm and a .45ACP. After I left there, I went into the Hollywood video in the same strip mall and picked up a movie my wife wanted to see. Then on to Shopper's Food Warehouse to get something. I carry there every week. No runs, no screams, and no gawks. |
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captkirk9195 Regular Member
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Thursday 7-11 in Manassas VCDL Premeeting VCDL Meeting FuddRuckers VCDL Overtime Sat (today) Different 7-11 in Manassas (got a Kimber 1911 Stainless II on the way to lunch, had to stop and clean it enroute) Don Pablos in Manassas (wife wasn't impressed but got over it) And all was quiet and peaceful Jason |
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Glock27Bill Regular Member
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Rite Aid in Falls Church. East Chateau in Vienna. 7-11 in Vienna. OC’d at Famous Dave’s in Oakton for dinner, sparked an interesting conversation. They sat me at a table in the middle of the dining area, I was about 3 feet from a booth where a young couple was eating. She came over and sat down to talk about why I carry. She’s a life-long DC resident, just moved to Vienna a year ago. I told her I carry for self-defense, and because I was afraid that, if I did not exercise the right and we lost it, that Virginia would become just as unsafe as DC. We talked a little about Heller and what might happen in DC if guns became legal (greater availability = more crime or less). She was really afraid of guns, has a step-brother who lived in a bad part of town, he was with two friends who were shot and killed as he sat next to them. I didn’t ask the specifics. Her husband was raised in Burke and used to shoot at Quantico when he was in high school. All in all a good conversation, I got the feeling she was trying to adapt to a free society. I’m thinking of sending Kaine a thank you letter for vetoing the CC in restaurant bill. The more I open carry, the more good, positive conversations I have. With Heller in the news, I think people are getting curious about us gun owners. If he had passed the bill, people would not know that I carry and I would never have these conversations. He has inadvertently created the circumstances by which we are able to show people that we are just regular folks, and possibly gain their support for future legislation. |
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Rey Regular Member
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Today was my first day to OC. Strapped on the new Kimber and went grocery shopping. Went to Giant food store in Reston. Just another normal shopping experience. The only was when I got the bill...I think we're gonna drive the extra five miles to Safeway from now on. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Rey wrote: Today was my first day to OC. Strapped on the new Kimber and went grocery shopping.Find out where your local Shopper's Food Warehouse is and hit it for regular grocery shopping. For stocking up, consider Costco's. Congrats on your first OC day. |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Rey - I've found Safeway to be more expensive if not the same as Giant.... just in case your wondering. Sometimes it's worth it to spend a little more to get there and back a little quicker. My giant is less than 300 yards from my house. Safeway, about .75 miles. Prices - about the same. Just a friendly heads up. Sometimes a few pennies isn't worth the time and hassle - when your talking $5 or less on your total bill. |
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Rey wrote: Today was my first day to OC. Strapped on the new Kimber and went grocery shopping. I'm in your neck of the woods. I open carried in UNO's in reston in January, 1st time was uneventful. The second time the manager asked that next time I don't bring it.... hasn't been a "next time" there yet I haven't seen anyone OC in Reston yet. |
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eyesopened Regular Member
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Jared wrote: Rey wrote:Today was my first day to OC. Strapped on the new Kimber and went grocery shopping. I wonder if that's a company policy or the manager making rules on the fly. I carried at a UNOs at Kingstowne with no issues. The seated us at a middle table rather than a booth so I was pretty visible. |
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Grand Mart in Centreville. There for 45 minutes yesterday and barely got any looks at all. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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I was in the Reston/Falls Church/ Vienna area yesterday (I always OC) with no issues. Maybe, you should organize/suggest a OC outing in Reston. Maybe a weekday lunch?? Last edited on Mon Mar 24th, 2008 03:06 pm by Agent19 |
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Rey Regular Member
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Agent19 wrote:
I would be all for that! I work in McLean so weekday lunch anywhere in that area would be fine for me! Count me in! I really want to get more info re: UNO's. I love that place and I sure hope it's not anti-gun as a chain-wide policy. How exactly does it work? If it's a franchise then they can put up a sign or ask you to leave and that's that? Is there any recourse if it's JUST a manager making up rules as he sees fit? If I'm gonna start running into these issues I need a little COA for these scenarios. Someone please advise... |
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VApatriot Regular Member
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NFCU Branch in Burke - Very friendly as always. Sears at Fair Oaks Mall - I bought a gun . . . well an air-impact gun and some other tools. Only two employees and one other customer there, but unsurprisingly no problems from any of them. |
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eyesopened Regular Member
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Rey wrote: Agent19 wrote: From what I know TGIF allows each chain to set their rules when it comes to weapons. I've read/heard of people being asked to leave their pistol in their car. I ate at the TGIF near Springfield mall, and they didn't give me any problem about it. You could contact UNOs directly and inquire about their policy concerning firearms. If it turns out that it is a company wide policy (Like Redlobster), then you really have no recourse. If they have no set policy, or they adopt whatever policy the state has then it seems like a rogue manager. You can then write a nice letter to UNOs informing them of your experience and asking them to clarify and re-educate the staff. If a manager asks you to leave though, don't stay there and argue with them. Cordially leave and take your business elsewhere. If you stay around after being asked to leave, they can call the police and you can be charged for trespassing but not a firearms charge. You can start your letter writing afterwards. |
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Rey Regular Member
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Great. Well what if it's a franchise? Does the owner have the say in making the policy or does he have to go by the corporate rules? |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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Rey wrote: Great. Well what if it's a franchise? Does the owner have the say in making the policy or does he have to go by the corporate rules? Depends on what's in his franchise agreement. Some allow owners to set all but the most fundamental policies; others require the franchisee to follow most corporate policies, and make his money simply on volume. So each one is different. |
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FWIW, I have OC'd 8-10 times at the UNO's in York County with nary a peep from anyone. |
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Had the day off and OCd to Blue Ridge Aresenal. Last edited on Mon Mar 24th, 2008 11:34 pm by cbigbrick |
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Jared Regular Member
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Rey wrote: Agent19 wrote: Here are the details. Some UNO's are corporate, some are franchise. The one in Reston is Corporate. The district manager is named Kenny Templeton. The corporate office in Boston gave me his for his contact info. Kenny.Templeton@unos.com and for a phone number, 857-719-4201. I don't think they have a national policy. In Rhode Island, a bunch of us CCW there and the staff know it and it's never an issue. Before anyone asks, they know about CCW because one of us in the group is famous in the town for removing a corrupt town official from office, during the whole charade, it came out that he had a CCW in Rhode Island. Not that any of this is important, but I wanted to preempt the potential 50 questions about the issue. As far as me, I was asked not to carry in the UNO's in Reston, so I'm not organizing anything. If you all want to do lunch there, then that's fine since you all have not been told to leave. Like I said, only the general manager, Sara had a problem, she was ignorant of the law and not the most friendly person. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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I don't see that anyone said "Go back to Uno's." The suggestion was made that since you haven't seen any OC'ing in the Reston area you organize a outing. From what you posted the Mgr. Sara asked "that you not bring that (gun I assume) back with you." It doesn't sound like she trespassed you, however IANALNDIPOOTV. If you want organize a lunch somewhere else and email/send a copy of the receipts and photo's to Uno's corporate office and hand deliver them to Mgr. Sara. Politely let them know why they are receiving the receipts of a competitor. That is one suggestion, but you don't have to do anything it is your choice. I personally think their Pizza taste like *#$!!!! OC'd at Safeway and Popeye's on Westfield Rd. yesterday. |
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Rey Regular Member
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Picked up some pants that I had altered at Reston Valet. (still too short ). The ladies there didn't seem to care or notice. OC'd in Target in Reston. Quiet stares, nothing crazy. Peaches had fun shopping. She suggested we go to UNO's for dinner. hahaha. But her cooking is way better. Should be getting my CCW today or tomorrow! |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Agent19 wrote: I don't see that anyone said "Go back to Uno's." Hey Agent (and the rest of the local PWC crowd). I can tell you where you can get the best pizza you can imagine. It's nothing like the run-of-the-mill pizza shops, Pizza Hut, or Dominoes. It's up in Front Royal and its name is Melting Pot Pizza. I'm dead serious. It's perhaps the best I have ever had. |
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Rey Regular Member
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IANALNDIPOOTV. hahahahahaha It took me two days to get that.... |
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Rey Regular Member
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Disclaimer: My exaggeration is most obvious as his post was from this morning. |
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VApatriot wrote: NFCU Branch in Burke - Very friendly as always. Are you typing about Navy Federal Credit Union? The branches here in Va Bch are posted for no weapons allowed. If the branches up there are not posted, please let me know specific locations via reply here or pm. Thanks. |
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kaiheitai17 Regular Member
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I carry into NavyFed here in NoVA all the time. |
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Rey Regular Member
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hey Kai, got my CCW in the mail today! But, since I wear church clothes to work, I'll still be OC'ing during weekdays. Speaking of...didn't someone in here say they were trying to get together for lunch in Vienna/Reston/McLean?? Or did that idea fizzle out? |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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Jared wrote: Rey wrote:Agent19 wrote:I was asked not to carry in the UNO's in Reston, so I'm not organizing anything.Jared wrote:I haven't seen anyone OC in Reston yet. No Reston OC outing scheduled, yet. Anyone can organize one. Start a new thread, post a location, date , time and hopefully people will show up. The family and I wandered around Bristow yesterday with no issues. We really like the area. (there goes the neighborhood) Last edited on Wed Mar 26th, 2008 01:57 pm by Agent19 |
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kaiheitai17 Regular Member
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Rey wrote: hey Kai, got my CCW in the mail today! Great news Rey! Happy to hear that it was a painless operation for you. |
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BobCav Founder's Club Member
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The NFCU in Springfield isn't posted either, but I only ever went on my way home from my old job and wasn't OC'ing. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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OC'd as usual at the Shopper's in Somerset on the southern end of Gainesville. As I was getting close to the end of my food route, I wound up at the meat section and three ladies were there deciding upon which ground beef to buy. From their accents, I would guess them to be from somewhere in the northeast.. perhaps Boston or some other part of Mass. The middle one (age wise talked to me for a minute - not about my little friend). At the checkout isle, they were behind me. A little more talking and such. From their actions, I would suspect they were sizing me up to see how friendly I was (which is quite a bit since I am normally that way and particularly when OC'ing). Passed them in the parking lot when I was driving up to load my purchases into my trunk.. they waved. Anyway, I would have loved to know what they thought of running across a Virginia packing heat openly. I'd like to think I helped the cause and sent out some positive messages for all. |
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I'm a lil behind, but here it is: In Manassas - Giant, Total Wine and More, CVS, Barbershop, PetsMart, Costco, Prince William Family Practice, Kaiser Permanente, Guns and Ammo Warehouse, Exxon, Sunoco, Logans Roadhouse, Staples, Green Dry-Cleaners, Dick's Sporting Goods, Shopper's Food Warehouse, Target at the Manassas Mall. In Fairfax county - Outback Steakhouse, Blue Ridge Arsenal. The dry cleaner did not ask me any questions, but asked my wife what I did for a living when she went to pick up my clothes. Her answer did not provide an explanation for his unasked question, but he seemed too shy to ask anything further. The only moment of interest was at the barbershop. Naturally, the staff recognizes all their customers, and especially those who open carry. They've made the assumption in the past that I was a detective and I corrected them. After that, they weren't sure who I was or what I did for a living, but were always deferential and polite. Because the question was never asked, I've never had the opening to explain OC to them. On my last visit, after paying my tab and exchanging parting pleasantries with all of them, I turned to exit the shop. Just then a PWC cruiser pulled up and stopped directly in front of the door, lights on. The barbers and the patrons stopped and watched. I exited the door wondering to myself about the presence of the officer but continued off the curb directly in front of the cruiser to cross the parking lot to my vehicle. I immediately saw why the officer was there - a car was illegally parked just out of sight of the barbershop and I figured they were fixin' to get a ticket. The officer was just beginning to exit the vehicle when I crossed in front of her strong side. (yes, I'm a southpaw) I actually saw her but I ignored her and continued on my way. When I didn't hear "Sir, SIR..." I knew I had only momentarily surprised a well trained PWC officer. What the reaction was inside the barbershop, I guess I won't find out until I return. |
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NetRangerM Regular Member
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Jared wroteI haven't seen anyone OC in Reston yet. I've OC'd around Reston for a couple of months now without any major issues. Been all over the place, and have never been asked to leave a restaurant or anything else because of the Glock on my hip. Most people don't seem to notice or care, or if they do, they don't show much reaction. I get a few looks every now and then, and I do remember one day in particular where I was walking around a local shopping center, when I walked past a man and a woman talking, only to hear an astonished-sounding "He Has a GUN!" in a rather loud whisper. Didn't bother to stop, just chuckled a bit and kept on walking. But anyways, you aren't alone carrying in the Reston area.... Mayhaps we might run into each other some day. NetRangerM |
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NetRangerM wrote: I get a few looks every now and then, and I do remember one day in particular where I was walking around a local shopping center, when I walked past a man and a woman talking, only to hear an astonished-sounding "He Has a GUN!" in a rather loud whisper. Didn't bother to stop, just chuckled a bit and kept on walking. So they didn't think you were a cop :^). I can't imagine anyone taking me for one either :^). |
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jao82 Regular Member
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I OC in Reston just about everyday! If anybody needs someone to OC with just let me know! |
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unrequited Regular Member
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double-tap! Last edited on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 10:25 pm by unrequited |
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Bank carry at Bank of America on Duke (just before the 7-11) nearest Telegraph Rd. Had to deposit checks. Two of the tellers lit up when I walked in, but a smile quickly disarmed that one. While I was filling out my deposit slip a security guard came over and asked for my CHP. I said I have one, but I don't need it because I'm open carrying. He looked confused and said good day and went outside. When I finished up I walked past him on the phone. I struck up a conversation to clear up the no-permit requirement of OC and asked if it was a BoA policy since I've carried there and other BoA's before. He said he was on the phone with his captain and his captain reassured him carry was legal in VA. We talked a bit about how they're restricted to use .38 revolvers and have to buy their own body armor if they choose to, and if in any way SHTF, they are NOT allowed to draw their firearm until the last minute where imminent danger presents itself... Good guy, he said he'd talk to the management who called him out of his lunch break in the back to make sure they knew it was cool and I joking said make sure they don't close down my account. > ) From there it was Giant on Duke St. where I had a bagger ask if I was "po-po" and helped him clear up misconceptions he had living in D.C. Forgot one thing so I hit up Whole(paycheck) Foods on my way back home and had the cashier ask me "who are you" to which I replied, "a person". She laughed and said I could have anything I wanted, I said no thanks, just the receipt and wished her a good day. Was in a rush to didn't have time to turn the joke into a school lesson. |
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Taco Grande on Rt. 1 Mt. Vernon |
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Rey Regular Member
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Me and Peaches hit up Uno's today in Reston. Not a peep. The manager came up to our table, strong side, and asked if everything was good, to which we replied yes. She smiled and said great and kept on walking. They have those little bitty hamburgers now like Ruby Tuesday only these are good. Next week, y'all, I'm gonna try and set up an OC lunch in Vienna/McLean. Nothing big. real informal like. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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3/29 The family and I wandered around Front Royal with no issues. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Agent19 wrote: 3/29 The family and I wandered around Front Royal with no issues.While you were there, you really should have gone to Melting Pot Pizza for the best pizza you can imagine. Really that good. Mr. Bachelor stared this business with 64 cents! |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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SouthernBoy wrote: you really should have gone to Melting Pot Pizza for the best pizza you can imagine. Really that good. Mr. Bachelor stared this business with 64 cents! I assume you meant started (not stared). The kids weren't in the mood for pizza, maybe next time. I'll be in Pentagon city today, maybe I'll swing by the mall. |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Petsmart, Puppy training, no issues. |
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Rey Regular Member
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me and peach went to a hole in the wall place called Friends Kabobs in Vienna. awesome food! no problems at all. |
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Nelson_Muntz Activist Member
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Manassas Dogtopia. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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Met the misses at PCM for lunch yesterday with no issues. Planned to stop by LMM but mini me fell asleep so we came home. |
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Harper1227 Regular Member 
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Rey wrote: hey Kai, got my CCW in the mail today! Hey rey, Congrats on the CCW! My husband and I are down for any get together you want to plan in the Fairfax area. Reply back with an idea of where and maybe we can get something going. michelle |
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Rey Regular Member
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Thanks Harper! Well, I like Outback, Carraba's. I heard there was a Logan's around here somewhere (still new). Yesterday I OC'd in Carraba's in Reston. No problems. |
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Harper1227 Regular Member
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GREAT! My Husband and I are always happy to go to Outback. So, if you pick a day I can guarantee 3-4 on my end. Weekends are better but if it has to be a weekday we can probably work something out. Let me know. michelle  |
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captkirk9195 Regular Member
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Tonight, Red Lobster in Manassas. No issues there, as the wait staff knows my wife and I, thought this was the first time I OC'd in there. 7-11 on way home. People working the counter (I'm in there regularly) asked me about it for the first time today, and were cool with me carrying in there. Though they said a couple of customers had been "concerned" when seeing someone walk in with a gun (over the past few weeks). In all cases, the people working at the store had said to the effect "Oh, he's a nice guy and in here all the time, I wouldn't worry about him". That was before they asked me about it today. All in all, was good, and the second time I've had to tell people why I carry, etc. (first time was while I was at the Fudruckers dinner after the last VCDL meeting). One of the people working there asked "so is it loaded". I responded, "Of course, what good is an unloaded gun?" She laughed, thinking it had to be unloaded, and I nicely corrected that was only if being transported, concealed, and without a CHP. Jason |
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OC'ed yesterday at Target, Autozone, and Giant all in Alexandria, no issues. |
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Springfield Mall today. Entered through JCPenney, as usual. Spouse went upstairs to get a haircut, manchild and I remained downstairs as there was a dance-a-thon going on, and manchild LOVES music and dance. Couple of reactions. As we walked past the dancers, a woman spectator started shaking the arm of her companion and pointing out my gun. Later, as I entered the Hallmark store, the man asked what I was carrying. That in itself was an interesting discussion. He said "You can carry in here? I thought there was a sign." To which I said "I've never seen a sign here." He told me he used to carry all the time in there, but then he saw a sign that said no concealed weapons. At which point I told him mine wasn't concealed, so I wasn't worried, and that if I ever DID see a sign, I'd stop shopping there. Good interaction. The clerk at the Hallmark store had already noted, but no issue. I went to Payless Shoes. The manager there asked me if it was real. I resisted the temptation to ask why on earth he'd think I'd carry a fake gun. I'd say we got more notice today than we ever have at that mall, but nothing worrisome. Then on to DSW and B&N. I was noticed at both places, but no issues. |
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Rey Regular Member
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OC'd at Olive Garden in Vienna. No problem. OC'd in the Reston Town Center at the hair cut place. Peaches was tired of my hippy hair since I got out of the Marines, so I cut it short again. Kinda feels nice. She likes it anyway. The lady cutting my hair asked me what I did for a living. When I said Corporate Security she just nodded and said oh...even though that has nothing to do with why I was carrying. She didn't ask anything further. I've been CC'ing all day today though. Like I said in an earlier thread, I change my style of carry to suit my wardrobe, not the other way around. And today's wardrobe called for CC. God I love Virginia. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Let's see - Saturday OC'ing with a Glock 23. This morning I hit the McDonalds in Haymarket and it was quite crowed. Nothing out of the ordinary. Then I went to the Lowe's in Gainesville to pick up a few things. Got a look from two guys working the tools section but that was all. Then on to Advance Auto in Manassas across from the Mall. Some guy panhandling asked me for a dollar and I gave him the change in my pocket. He said he was on his way to work as I gave the change to him then he notice my little friend. He asked me if I was a cop and I said "no". He thanked me and went on his way after repeating he was going to work (somehow, I didn't really believe that story). Macy's in Manassas Mall saw me next, then the Sears there. Barnes and Noble was my next stop, and finally Kohl's down by 66. No surprises, no hassles, and no screaming. |
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Nelson_Muntz Activist Member
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SouthernBoy wrote: Macy's in Manassas Mall saw me next, then the Sears there. Did you enter via the anchor stores streetside doors or wander through the mall? It is supposed to be posted on one mall entrance door, but I usually enter only streetside. Tomorrow we will be jewelry shopping, starting at the mall. The jewelry stores do not have a streetside entrance. Should be interesting. |
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Today at Gamestop on Duke St. in Alexandria, and then at Fuddruckers for lunch right down the street. Soda jerk asked what department I worked for, I said I didn't, and he seemed confused. Didn't ask any followups, and I was hungry so I didn't explain. No worries at either place. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Nelson_Muntz wrote: SouthernBoy wrote:Through the doors of the two stores themselves, not through the mall doors. The store doors do not have any postings whereas the mall doors do. When going into the mall, I always carry concealed. What they don't know helps me.Macy's in Manassas Mall saw me next, then the Sears there. |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Lowes, twice yesterday. Getting mulch. I was dressed appropriately for getting dirty so I wondered if I would get any more than usual. Nope. Not one blink. Crazy, cause you know, I was flaunting. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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I "flaunted" a short while ago at Kohl's and Borders in Manassas. People ran screaming and crying "think of the children" from both stores. It was horrible. A dozen police cars, news cameras, satellite dishes, interview with celebrities like Rosie O'Donnell and Charles Shumer. Just terrible. |
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Just completed an afternoon of flaunting around town. First stop, Worst Buy for some computer upgrades. Next, Manassas Mall. Entered through the Macy's and proceeded to the Zales. Spent an hour there cutting a deal. Amused myself during the moments my cookie was being shown different pieces by observing folks in the mall intersection. Imagined that the young buck nervously waiting under the big clock and looking around was waiting for an internet date to show. Also was distressed to see 11/12 y.o. girls wandering about the mall by themselves. Glad I don't have a daughter. Finally, the Casa Chimayo just across the street. Friendly folks, good food. Only comment I heard there as I went past a table was a young lady complaining that I wasn't her waitress ! I don't think DICK saslaw has the nads to eat in a restaurant in my town (packing or not). |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Nelson_Muntz wrote: Just completed an afternoon of flaunting around town.Casa Chimayo is one of our favorites. While not a big fan of Mexican food (maybe something to do with the huge influx of them into our country), that little restaurant is super. |
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Nelson_Muntz Activist Member
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SouthernBoy wrote: Casa Chimayo is one of our favorites. While not a big fan of Mexican food (maybe something to do with the huge influx of them into our country), that little restaurant is super. I second that sir. I've been eating there from time to time for about 15 years. Interesting thing, every face in there today (as most times I've been there) are NOT hispanic. Aside from this particular restaurant I refuse to eat at any mex place or Taco Smell because of the illegals. |
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Nelson_Muntz wrote: SouthernBoy wrote:Casa Chimayo is one of our favorites. While not a big fan of Mexican food (maybe something to do with the huge influx of them into our country), that little restaurant is super. There is a place by my house in which, when I visit, I and the teenage girl at the counter are the only two people speaking English. Illegal? I can't tell just by looking at them. Who cares. It's hands down the best Mexican (or is it Salvadoran?) food I've ever found. And the girl and her family are nice. I OC there and they are cool with it. My stomach and my manners speak louder than my politics I guess. |
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If I walk into a Mexican restaurant and find that the staff speaks English, I leave. It's very unlikely the food will be any good. |
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Swiss Bakery in Annandale...good stuff in there. Fudruckers in Annandale. Blue Ridge Arsenal....almost, almost dropped $75 to shoot the MP5 but resisted...this time.... Starbucks on Lee RD in Chantilly....no real looks. Wally World in Fairlakes. Now why is it when I want to get some ammo the guy behind the counter has no clue what he is doing??? Had a nice conversation with 2 gentleman about Glocks, Sig & HK while wait for my ammo. People in Wally World seem to do double takes then look away as if they didn't see anything. But everything went smoothly. |
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I am beginning to be convinced people in Northern VA just don't notice if you OC for the most part because they are so wrapped up in their own little worlds. |
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hsmith wrote: I am beginning to be convinced people in Northern VA just don't notice if you OC for the most part because they are so wrapped up in their own little worlds. I've noticed this as well. They're either talking on their phones, listing to their iPods, or just plain not paying any attention to their surroundings. |
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Rey Regular Member
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You know, I've got to agree that the sheeple in NoVa seem to be very unaware of anything but their bubble. sigh....must be nice. Went to Linens & Things in Vienna and spent two hours picking out curtains with Peaches. I was not dressed as well as usual, but the only was from an elderly lady that was sitting at hip level. I was even approached and asked if I worked there. ??? |
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Returned to jewelers at Manassas Mall yesterday. Mall cops must have been sleeping. |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Puppy training at Petsmart. Had a discussion with the husband of one of the other students regarding whether or not my gun was real. Covered guns, permits, ranges, the usual stuff. He's got a few himself and wasn't aware of where to shoot and didn't have a permit. Gave him this site and vcdl. We'll see if he turns up anytime soon. Pup's 37 pounds at 4 months, she might end up being a bit bigger than we originally anticipated... |
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Thanks a lot for this thread! It has convinced me to OC more often (I CC every day). I really like the accounts of being able to educate and discuss the issue with the "unwashed masses". I started a similar thread in the Utah forums, hoping to discover more about OC locally, esp in the city. |
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dcp0515 Regular Member
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I live in Kingstowne and sure as hell don't want to see people packing pistols! Had I been at Uno's that night I would have gotten in your face...and you probably would have shot me! Why else would you carry a weapon in public?! |
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dcp0515 wrote: I live in Kingstowne and sure as hell don't want to see people packing pistols! Had I been at Uno's that night I would have gotten in your face...and you probably would have shot me! Why else would you carry a weapon in public?! I have no doubt that you would've gotten violent. That's what anti-gun people do. That's why they're anti-gun. They think that everyone is disturbed as they are and know that they wouldn't be responsible with a gun so think no one else could be. Your post is enlightening in how typical it is. OBSERVE: He/she is not frightened by you (which is good), but angered that you would dare "pack a pistol" in his presence. So much so that he would like to try and pick a fight (he would probably never do it, but he likes to fantasize about doing it by posting in the safety of an online message board). This shows that he already knows that the person carrying it is responsible enough not to use violence. So his feelings aren't fright. It's disdain that someone would dare step out of their caste and do what they don't have PERMISSION to do. It's his way of saying "get back on the plantation you uppity negro!" Some people just don't know how to live free. Why would someone carry a weapon? If you don't know, you haven't been paying attention. Suffice to say that some people like to be responsible and self-reliant (i.e., American) rather than relying on others to do things for them. You too would like to have a gun to defend yourself if the need arose. The difference is you would be too frightened to wield that gun yourself, but you WOULD want it there. You would call the police and want THEM to shoot the person for you. You would call them and they would arrive in time to draw a chalk outline of your body and carry you away, but probably not in time to help. That's not knocking police officers; it's just the way it is. We carry guns for the same reason that you would call the police (the main difference being that the police will never get there in time to help, but my sidearm will). In the event that something bad happened, you would most likely be the first to hide behind an OCer. And if you had been in Virginia Tech classroom right before Cho walked in or in that Illinois mall... and someone had a gun to defend themselves and others, I realy don't think you would've told them to put it away. Last edited on Thu Apr 10th, 2008 02:19 pm by ama-gi |
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dcp0515 wrote: I live in Kingstowne and sure as hell don't want to see people packing pistols! Had I been at Uno's that night I would have gotten in your face...and you probably would have shot me! Why else would you carry a weapon in public?! I've OC at that UNOs and no one said a word. Here is another member OC in that same shopping center: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeR9LKDtQws If you don't like people OC, either deal with it or move to DC or Maryland You smell like a troll... |
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bohdi Regular Member
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dcp0515 wrote: I live in Kingstowne and sure as hell don't want to see people packing pistols! Had I been at Uno's that night I would have gotten in your face...and you probably would have shot me! Why else would you carry a weapon in public?! Actually if I had been there that night and you would have gotten up in my face I probably would have asked you kindly to back up. I would have my wife take out her cellphone and start videotaping and taking pictures. I would calmly move away from you - at which case you'd probably continue to verbally assault me - which would now be in the process of being videotaped. That way when you actually physically accosted me I would have evidence to submit to the police that would be arriving shortly because my son would be on the phone dialing 911. You see, I know the difference between when to use a phone, and when to use a gun........as do most responsible, law abiding, gun owners. This experience would give you time to spend contemplating your over-reaction with some truely miscreant people in a very small enclosure while someone you know comes to pay bail. You ought to also be aware at this point you've made a threat on a public board that you've got every intention to make it a point to accost legally carrying firearms owners if they go into that particular resturant. Thanks for the warning and it will add value to any case that might be brought against you.....dumbass. |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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ama-gi wrote: dcp0515 wrote:I live in Kingstowne and sure as hell don't want to see people packing pistols! Had I been at Uno's that night I would have gotten in your face...and you probably would have shot me! Why else would you carry a weapon in public?! Well put, as I always say, those that say you shouldn't have a gun, shouldn't have one :^). And as you point out this is because I believe they are projecting their own psychosis on the gun owner, without realizing it of course. "They", are the ones that would very likely go off and loose control of their anger and shoot someone. I can't tell you the number of times an anti-gunner have expressed some deep seated anger at me, you can see it in their eyes. It's verges on murderous. Of course not all anti-gunners are like this, some are quite rational. Those are the ones that can be converted :^). So yes, keep the guns out of the hands of the anti-gunners! |
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Neplusultra wrote: So yes, keep the guns out of the hands of the anti-gunners! I support gun control for those who support gun control! Wait... I'm only playing, Neplusultra. I get what you're saying |
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ama-gi wrote: Neplusultra wrote:So yes, keep the guns out of the hands of the anti-gunners! No, that's a good one. I like it :^). |
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Rey Regular Member
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HAHAHAHA LMAO!!! bohdi you're freakin' hilarious. |
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Rey Regular Member
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OC'd all over the place. Blockbuster, Giant, the cleaners, Linens n Things, PF Changs in Tysons. Never a problem. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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HAHAHAHA LMAO!!! Anyone want to do an OC event in Kingstown? Weekday lunch works for me. Capture the rantings of a lunatic on my VC, alert Mgr. and the police use VC recording against them in criminal and civil case if need be. I hope the AGAH likes the taste of pepper. Only to be used if physical contact is made. |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Perhaps we ought to ask the VCDL to hold the next meeting in Kingstowne? Lol. |
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dcp0515 wrote: I live in Kingstowne and sure as hell don't want to see people packing pistols! Had I been at Uno's that night I would have gotten in your face...and you probably would have shot me! Why else would you carry a weapon in public?! I've noticed that people as trusting as our friend dcp0515 often use the same screen name for everything and don't have a problem posting personal information online. Including name and email address available by doing a simple google search for dcp0515 and virginia. With further searching I found pictures, phone numbers, an address, and resumes. I wonder if he's the same dcp0515 that has a profile on adultsingles.com. This guy doesn't seem security conscience about anything. No wonder he is afraid of guns. Maybe if you spent more time talking to real people you wouldn't have to troll the internet looking for fights... or dates. I say we have an OC meetup around Kingstowne Center, right in our friends neighborhood. See how many 'faces he gets in'. |
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Harper1227 wrote: dcp0515 wrote:I live in Kingstowne and sure as hell don't want to see people packing pistols! Had I been at Uno's that night I would have gotten in your face...and you probably would have shot me! Why else would you carry a weapon in public?! AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! LMAO! d00d, wait a minute. hold on. maybe this is like, an imposter. kinda like when we would go out drinkin; I had a buddy named thomas hunt. i would stand at the back of a crowded bar, cover my mouth, turn my face and yell, "MY NAME'S THOMAS HUNT AND I'LL KICK ANYBODY'S ASS IN HERE!" and then run out. hahahahaha. |
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Rey wrote:
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Rey Regular Member
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aw come on! I wouldn't do it to you! (the first time) Or how about when you're driving your friends around (hahahaha I've done this so many times..) and you pull up at a light next to a chick and you roll down the passenger window (making your buddy in the passenger seat look in that direction) and then honk your horn while simultaneously locking the windows. bahahahaha! doesn't matter if she's cute or ugly he freaks out every time! *sigh heeheehee.... I was such a bastard. More on topic -ahem- I OC'd at Safeway in Herndon. That's the nicest safeway I've ever been in and bohdi you were right. It's just as damn expensive as Giant, but not as much as Whole (paycheck) Foods. I got no hassles or ogles and I even walked by a LEO that was shopping in uniform with his mom(?). |
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ama-gi wrote: dcp0515 wrote:+1 for the great summation. It sounds to me like there needs to be a big OC meet at Uno's...I live in Kingstowne and sure as hell don't want to see people packing pistols! Had I been at Uno's that night I would have gotten in your face...and you probably would have shot me! Why else would you carry a weapon in public?! and dcpo515: if you don't want to see guns, move to England and get knifed by the chavs as soon as you step out your door... Last edited on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 05:52 pm by ScottyT |
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Is that the new Safeway across the street from Virginia Kitchen and Kmart? I have not been in that one yet. I go to the North Point Giant. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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Rey wrote: I OC'd at Safeway in Herndon. That's the nicest safeway I've ever been in. Agreed. They are probably thinking that isn't the same guy that came in here all the time. Too many places to list. Did have a interesting conversation with a Federal LEO while standing in line at the BoA ATM (no drive up window) that is just off 29/28 in Centreville. He stated that he heard that people OC in VA but hadn't seen anyone doing it until now. Then we started talking guns. Last edited on Fri Apr 11th, 2008 06:10 pm by Agent19 |
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Rey Regular Member
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Hokie wrote: Is that the new Safeway across the street from Virginia Kitchen and Kmart? I have not been in that one yet. I go to the North Point Giant. Yeah that's the one. I usually shop at the NP Giant too. They've never given me any grief OC'ing. |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Giant is too close for me to really shop anywhere else, except Costco. |
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Nelson_Muntz Activist Member
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Had to stop at Circuit City after work to pick up Guitar Hero III. Transaction was completed with 3 younger employees and not an eye batted. SUNOCO on Center St., but too close to the cop shop and courthouse for anyone to really notice. I see the florist at Westgate Giant every week. Folks there are very comfortable with me as a long time customer and it is never an issue. You know you are accepted without question when people treat you like a homely maiden. They look you straight in the eye. (nothing to see here folks) God, I love Northern Virginia. |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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dcp0515 wrote: I live in Kingstowne and sure as hell don't want to see people packing pistols! Had I been at Uno's that night I would have gotten in your face...and you probably would have shot me! Why else would you carry a weapon in public?! Anti's like this generally just do a skip-bomb attack at a website and are gone before you know it. As aggravating as someone like this can be (since that's what he intended) we ought not respond in kind, but ask if he'd like to "get in our faces" in a civil way by attending one of our dining out events and discuss the issues with us in person. We know we're not raving lunatics, but evidently he doesn't know that. Mr. Perrin, I know its a long drive, but you are welcome to join the men, women and (well-behaved) children who go out to dinner in the Tidewater area. I assure you we won't shoot you even if you get angry with us. |
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1337Impreza Regular Member
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OC'ed at the Silver Diner by spingfield mall No problems. Not even any . |
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kaiheitai17 Regular Member
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OC'ed tonight at "A Taste of China" restaurant in Stafford on route 17 near GEICO. Food was pretty decent, place was nice, service good. No funny looks from the staff or customers. Later stopped at Wal-Mart on 610 in Stafford, again no funny looks. |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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1337Impreza wrote: OC'ed at the Silver Diner by spingfield mall No problems. Not even any Welcome to the boards. We've carried there a number of times with nary a . I believe it may be the whole chain - no reactions in the Tysons or the Fair Oaks Silver DIners either. |
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Tess wrote: 1337Impreza wrote:OC'ed at the Silver Diner by spingfield mall No problems. Not even any Thank you for the welcome Tess. It was nice meeting you at the gun show. |
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casullshooter Regular Member
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I had a strange OC experience today while UNARMED. I went into the Town & Country Restaurant in New Baltimore,VA for breakfast with my wife and 5yr. old daughter. I have OC'd there in the past with no problem or complaint. When we entered we went into the no-smoking area, no others were present in that room. We ordered the new buffet and started our meal. During the time we were in there virtually every server on staff came through and circled our table(not adjacent to the kitchen entry). Finally one of them told me that a big discussion was going on in the next room as to whether I was armed or not. I was wearing my VCDL polo and jeans(no jacket). A couple of other patrons also peeped into the room as well. The discussion was around the possibility of kicking me out. I told the waitress that I was not armed so I did not see how this came up, she actually was on the side of it being OK but was sent in to check me out(the owner was apparantly too balless to do this his self). Over all I was made to feel unwelcome and will not be going back. I will be sending a letter to the owner to say farewell and why. If I get a response I will post it here. |
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Tomahawk Regular Member
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casullshooter wrote: I had a strange OC experience today while UNARMED. I went into the Town & Country Restaurant in New Baltimore,VA for breakfast with my wife and 5yr. old daughter. I have OC'd there in the past with no problem or complaint. When we entered we went into the no-smoking area, no others were present in that room. We ordered the new buffet and started our meal. During the time we were in there virtually every server on staff came through and circled our table(not adjacent to the kitchen entry). Finally one of them told me that a big discussion was going on in the next room as to whether I was armed or not. I was wearing my VCDL polo and jeans(no jacket). A couple of other patrons also peeped into the room as well. The discussion was around the possibility of kicking me out. I told the waitress that I was not armed so I did not see how this came up, she actually was on the side of it being OK but was sent in to check me out(the owner was apparantly too balless to do this his self). Over all I was made to feel unwelcome and will not be going back. I will be sending a letter to the owner to say farewell and why. If I get a response I will post it here. Wow, so VCDL has a real rep, now. The mere sight of a logo makes 'em tremble... |
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Cookie had the honey do list out today. Completed item was taking the lil man to the barbershop. Joined in the sharp implement vs dead hair cell gabfest with my barber at the same time. Wore my "US Citizen" tee. (Go PW County BOCS!) As I've related before, they joke with me concerning arrest powers. Two barbers were ganging up on a third and just before I left I was asked by one of the barbers to drag barber X to jail. In my frustration over the issue I simply admonished them all to 'play nice' before I let the door hit my butt. I was dressed waaaaay down and have responded that I wasn't a leo many times in the past when they've made this request about whoever was in the barrel that day. This cements it for me that no matter how many times and different ways you try to persuade casual acquaintances that you are not leo, they will refuse to believe it simply because you are taking personal responsibility to defend yourself and others nearby. For them to actually think that a sheep of their own flock has grown teeth is impossible to imagine. Therefore, even when I deny powers of color of law it is instantly wiped from conciousness because it does not fit their pattern of who is 'authorized'. Beyond frustrating. You cannot educate those who will not listen. They listened very carefully and committed to political action when I discussed attrition through enforcement on illegal aliens. This seems beyond their ken. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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casullshooter wrote: I had a strange OC experience today while UNARMED. I went into the Town & Country Restaurant in New Baltimore,VA for breakfast with my wife and 5yr. old daughter. I have OC'd there in the past with no problem or complaint. When we entered we went into the no-smoking area, no others were present in that room. We ordered the new buffet and started our meal. During the time we were in there virtually every server on staff came through and circled our table(not adjacent to the kitchen entry). Finally one of them told me that a big discussion was going on in the next room as to whether I was armed or not. I was wearing my VCDL polo and jeans(no jacket). A couple of other patrons also peeped into the room as well. The discussion was around the possibility of kicking me out. I told the waitress that I was not armed so I did not see how this came up, she actually was on the side of it being OK but was sent in to check me out(the owner was apparantly too balless to do this his self). Over all I was made to feel unwelcome and will not be going back. I will be sending a letter to the owner to say farewell and why. If I get a response I will post it here.That is indeed truly ashame. I mean, Town & Country is in serious gun country. I have noticed that they are not doing nearly as well as in the past. Perhaps your letter will open some eyes when you tell them you have posted their behavior on a well seen site.I would have thought they would have known better. |
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cloudcroft Activist Member
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There is somewhat of a bright side to the incident at T&C: Name-recognition...at least they all knew what VCDL is about! -- John D. |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Friday Night - E.C. Lawrence Park, Lacross practice pickup and family Pizza party. People were more interested in the Italian Mastiff than my weapon. Saturday - E.C. Lawrence Park, Lacross Game. People were more interested in the Italian Mastiff and the game than my weapon. Saturday Night - Matsu Sushi - mmmmmmmmmmmmm. No issues. Sunday - Wendy's in Stafford, Chili's in Stafford, pourshots classroom for Utah Carry - does that count? Lol. Daily walks with my dog through my neighborhood. Not a peep. Got to goto the vet and doggie kindergarten today so there's a chance for more educating. Last edited on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 06:02 pm by bohdi |
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VApatriot Regular Member
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Walmart and CVS Pharmacy in Burke - No questions, no comments and no cops. Last edited on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 05:40 pm by VApatriot |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Well I can't really term this open carry but it was a good experience. I ran into a former co-workers wife at lunch today. We exchanged pleasantries and all, she asked how my weekend was. I told her it went great, I took a Utah Concealed Carry class and soon I'll be able to expand the areas I can carry my gun to. She looked at me funny and we were off to the races. She's not anti-gun as she explained, she's anti-violence. I told her I am anti-violence too, which is one of the reasons why I carry a gun. She sort of looked at me funny again. I explained to her I don't want anyone to be violent and harm me or my family, the process of escalation, when deadly force is appropriate and when it's not, and the time it takes for the police to arrive on scene - according to Fairfax County 2006 the average is 5 minutes. She said that's alot of time. I said yes, if I was crazy and wanted to kill you you'd be dead before anyone could help you most likely. The light went off in her head. We continued to talk about why open carry verses concealed, what the laws were about obtaining a weapon, and why someone open carrying shouldn't freak her out. We had a great conversation and she thanked me for talking to her about it as she told me "it sounds like an awesome responsibility to have, I didn't know there was so much to it." Based on the theory of 6 degrees of seperation, I wonder how many lives I've just changed. At least there is one person I know who won't be all if she ever sees someone open carrying like I described to her. |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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Wandered around Historic Leesburg this weekend, heard a few whispers. |
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Good job, Bohdi. And I would think that Kevin Bacon would also thank you. |
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bohdi Regular Member
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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I would also like to add my "props" to bohdi for his efforts. I am amazed at time when someone does ask or comment about my carrying, how much they don't know. But then again, there is good reason for this. Unless one has an interest in the subject, one is not likely to possess much knowledge about it. And unfortunately when information/knowledge they do have may well be sourced from the media industry and we all know where they sit. Good job! |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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Oh, yeah ... Saturday, after the gun show -- we headed for Fisher Hardware in Springfield. We love the place, and they know us (and manchild, if you can imagine) there. Ran in to a couple who were looking for barbecue grills, and started talking. He noticed spouse's NRA shirt before noticing our weapons. He's a CHP holder, and didn't seem big on OC, but we had a nice conversation anyway. His other half seemed pleased to see us carrying. Then on to Total Wine. About half of the staff knows us there, too. No reaction, as it should be. |
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OC'ed at Safeway in Falls Church across from teh VT/UVA Campus last night. Waiting for my prescription I had one guy ask me if "it was real" and as he was walking away "don't shoot no body" Then I had a retired Detroit cop ask me if it was legal and I said "of course" and he responded "wouldn't be in Detroit!" - Thats why I live in VA! I don't understand, if it was illegal, why would I be doing something that is extremely visible |
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hsmith wrote: OC'ed at Safeway in Falls Church across from teh VT/UVA Campus last night. In "Escape from Alcatraz" Clint Eastwood: "Why would I try to bring metal through the metal detector without hiding it? Prison Guard: "'Cause you're stupid!" Sorry that just popped into my head...but I completely agree with you. |
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longwatch Founder's Club Member
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File a FIOA to see if what the officer said was true, and get all the reports, car to car messages etc. |
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Rey Regular Member
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So, Peaches and I went to the Outback in Herndon/Reston. No problems. Couple of stares from other patrons. We went to Target. I started out CC'ing as I had my coat on and then got hot and took it off. No problems. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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So last week (Thursday), I hit the Shopper's in Somerset, just southwest of Gainesville, for my weekly grocery shopping excursion. At checkout, there was a young guy operating a different register who said, you have to have a "license" to carry like that (I see him frequently so he was just razzing me a little). So we bantered back and forth a bit. This yesterday afternoon in the same store for my groceries, one of the checkout ladies mentioned she was thinking about getting a permit and a gun. We, and another cashier, talked a little about it and they were quite surprised that carrying open was not illegal. So I gave them some info and went on my way. It's pretty amazing that in Northern Virginia, and on its outskirts, OC'ing is virtually a non-issue. Last edited on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 10:22 pm by SouthernBoy |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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SouthernBoy wrote: SNIP So we bantered back and forth a bit. Bantering is fun. My barber gave up his break real quick for me once because, "You have a gun!" Of course, when it is said loudly and playfully, everybody in the barber shop takes notice. Last edited on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 10:24 pm by Citizen |
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SouthernBoy wrote: So last week (Thursday), I hit the Shopper's in Somerset, just southwest of Gainesville, for my weekly grocery shopping excursion. At checkout, there was a young guy operating a different register who said, you have to have a "license" to carry like that (I see him frequently so he was just razzing me a little). So we bantered back and forth a bit. Good freaking Golly, is Northern Virginia becoming part of the South again !!!?? I remember when it used to be part of the South, it's been so long though. Can it be true??? Does anyone remember Hillbilly Heaven and Donna Dixon on south US 1 just before 95? Last edited on Fri Apr 18th, 2008 03:25 am by Neplusultra |
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Neplusultra wrote: SouthernBoy wrote:So last week (Thursday), I hit the Shopper's in Somerset, just southwest of Gainesville, for my weekly grocery shopping excursion. At checkout, there was a young guy operating a different register who said, you have to have a "license" to carry like that (I see him frequently so he was just razzing me a little). So we bantered back and forth a bit. There are some places that are now serving some quality sweet tea! I kid you not, for years I could never find a place to eat that had sweet tea in NOVA. I thought VA was considered a southern state, how hard is it to add sugar to tea? |
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Sunday after the gun show I went into Bob Evans with one of my friends that has his CCW. Anyways he took off his jacket and got a lot of looks, but no one said anything about it and the server was kick ass! Great experience from Bob Evans Last edited on Fri Apr 18th, 2008 04:44 am by CRF250rider1000 |
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Rey Regular Member
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how hard is it to add sugar to tea? Hahahahaha! No freakin' kiddin!! |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Rey wrote: how hard is it to add sugar to tea? It's not that it's hard to add sugar it's that there aren't any Southerners in NOVA :^). The last of them left in the late 70's. I think 90% or more of my father's neighbors are transplanted Yankees, including him. Last edited on Fri Apr 18th, 2008 05:49 pm by Neplusultra |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Neplusultra wrote: Rey wrote:HEY! What about me? I was born in this area and am a native as is my wife. And I sure am a Southern man (thank you Lord).how hard is it to add sugar to tea? |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Rey wrote: how hard is it to add sugar to tea?Sweet iced tea is a very Southern thing. Kinda like grits and corn pudding. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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eyesopened wrote: Neplusultra wrote:Something you never want to tell a Virginian is that he is not a Southerner. Yes we are a Southern state and happy for the fact.SouthernBoy wrote:So last week (Thursday), I hit the Shopper's in Somerset, just southwest of Gainesville, for my weekly grocery shopping excursion. At checkout, there was a young guy operating a different register who said, you have to have a "license" to carry like that (I see him frequently so he was just razzing me a little). So we bantered back and forth a bit. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Neplusultra wrote: SouthernBoy wrote:We never left the South. We just got invaded by everything under the sun because they found out we have something going.So last week (Thursday), I hit the Shopper's in Somerset, just southwest of Gainesville, for my weekly grocery shopping excursion. At checkout, there was a young guy operating a different register who said, you have to have a "license" to carry like that (I see him frequently so he was just razzing me a little). So we bantered back and forth a bit. Having been born here and lived my whole life here, I can remember a boatload of things from the past. Now central and Southern Virginians (basically anyone north of Feredericksburg) will tell you that the "upper" part of the state has gone "north". Not the natives. We are still the same people and have some deep roots. Now to my Nothern friends and others who have seen fit to immigrate to our fine state, I only have one request.. though it's too late in coming. I would have asked that you please leave your "other" life at the border before coming aboard. We have a certain way of doing things and it works just fine. It must. Otherwise why would so many of you want to come here and make this your home? Y'all have a great weekend. |
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My first night as a yankee in Virginia, true story; I was 14, it was 1973, Mount Vernon area. We had arrived after a long days trip from the land of lincoln. No furniture or anything had arrived yet so my dad says lets go out to eat. So the whole family piles in the car and we go hunting for a restaurant. We found a Shakee's Pizza Parlor and went in. It was PACKED! Two or three hundred people, the only table open was right in front of the piano. On Saturday nights they would have a piano player come in. So my dad says, "We're here" so we sat down and ordered our food. Now you've got to realize this is NOVA back when it was still part of the south, these were real rednecks drinking beer and being loud. I'd never seen a redneck before and here were a bunch of them. Anyway we're waiting for our food and the piano player comes in and starts playing. He plays a few songs and turns around to the croud, we're only a few feet from him, and yells out, "What do you want to hear?!" Some guy near the back yells, "Play Dixie!" And I kid you not EVERYONE in the place stood up and started clapping their hands singing "I wish I was in the land of cotton".... My family and I were the only ones left sitting, we just looked at each other and you could tell we're all thinking "I don't know the words" :^) That, was my first experience in the south. Edit: I've often wondered if it was a conspiracy by the patrons to leave that table open and wait for some hapless yankee tourist to stumble in and sit down just in time for a rousing rendition of Dixie. I think I actually said to my mom, "This ain't Kansas Toto". Last edited on Sat Apr 19th, 2008 12:42 am by Neplusultra |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Neplusultra wrote: SNIP Some guy near the back yells, "Play Dixie!" http://tinyurl.com/67zekv |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Neplusultra wrote: My first night as a yankee in Virginia, true story;There's a problem with this??? Hey, I love the whole country and respect all of the different areas of it. Some are certainly better than others and many have their own unique qualities to offer. Great thing about being an American is the basic "sameness" within our culture (which we are rapidly loosing). Being Southern is not only a geographical thing, but a state of mind as well. And I'm sure one could say the same about being a New Englander or a mid-Westerner. |
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Rey wrote: how hard is it to add sugar to tea?It must be harder'n you think, 'cuz y'all got it backwards. The true question is "How hard is it to add [a little] tea to [at least a pound of] sugar?" Related question: how come there doesn't seem to be a market for merchandise (T-shirts, bumper stickers, etc) that say "...and the North will kick your redneck butts again!"? I just threw that in because I've always wanted to use the banana..... |
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Eeyore wrote: Related question: how come there doesn't seem to be a market for merchandise (T-shirts, bumper stickers, etc) that say "...and the North will kick your redneck butts again!"? When I was in the Corps two of my buddies used to give each other crap all the time. One was from Marion, VA, and the aother was from MI somewhere. The one would say, "the South will rise again!" and the other would say, "Yeah...in a mushroom cloud!", usually followed by consumption of alcohol. I think the folks who have hard feelings are the ones who never spent any time away from home. |
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Here is a perspective from guy that wasn't even born in this country. I LIKE VIRGINIA! I've lived in Virginia ever since immigrating here in 1989. I've traveled to other states for business and pleasure since then, and there is no where else I'd rather live. I'd never want to live in NJ/NY, people are too much into themselves that they don't care about other folks. Cali is the same way, folks from there seem to think you should be impressed just 'cause they hail from there Even though Virginia or the US in general isn't my birthplace, I consider my self a southern gentleman and proud to call myself an American to boot. When people ask me what nationality I am, I say I'm American, not Asian American or African American or whatever other PC term is en vogue these days. Instead, maybe I should say I'm Southern American I wonder how people would respond to that?And whoever added Tea to Sugar, I salute you! |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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eyesopened wrote: SNIP And whoever added Tea to Sugar, I salute you! Just to continue your Southerner education, its "add Kentucky bourbon to sugar, crushed ice, and crushed mint." Last edited on Sat Apr 19th, 2008 03:37 am by Citizen |
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Tomahawk wrote: When I was in the Corps two of my buddies used to give each other crap all the time. One was from Marion, VA, and the aother was from MI somewhere. The one would say, "the South will rise again!" and the other would say, "Yeah...in a mushroom cloud!", usually followed by consumption of alcohol. Yankee!!! |
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Robert E. Lee was from Arlington! Not Southern-American but, CONFEDERATE-AMERICAN................. |
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Citizen wrote: eyesopened wrote:SNIP And whoever added Tea to Sugar, I salute you! Not to get too far OT, but I am currently enjoying a nice Kentucky bourbon... And to neplusultra: you would be correct, and that movie rocked. |
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Eeyore wrote: Rey wrote:Because the last time it took the north with several times the population, a many times larger army, a much larger navy, massively more wealth and 10 times the manufacturing capability almost 4 years to win. I'm guessing that manufacturers don't want the liability of only 3-4 Yankees wearing shirts like that coming across a lone southern gentleman and getting a beat down.Related question: how come there doesn't seem to be a market for merchandise (T-shirts, bumper stickers, etc) that say "...and the North will kick your redneck butts again!"? Last edited on Sat Apr 19th, 2008 04:57 am by deepdiver |
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Well, I'm a Southern implant, from a border state (TN). Born and raised in Nashville, TN until I moved up here in 2000. My HS's mascot (well until they became PC in the last few years) was the Rebels. (now I think they are the eagles..... how sad to have to be that PC) I embrace the Southern-ness (open carry, etc) of the state. And I practice it as well. I wish TN had the same law there!! Now I just need to get my CHP. Not that it matters much, since I can't goto dinner with it, unless I'm at McDonalds HTH Jason |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Tomahawk wrote: Citizen wrote:eyesopened wrote:SNIP And whoever added Tea to Sugar, I salute you! I'm glad you liked it. Took me 10 minutes to remember the title of the movie, being so many zombie movies out there, and 10 minutes to find a decent shot from the climax scene of the movie. You will also notice that I'm a "converted" Yankee :^). |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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eyesopened wrote: Here is a perspective from guy that wasn't even born in this country. I LIKE VIRGINIA! I've lived in Virginia ever since immigrating here in 1989. I've traveled to other states for business and pleasure since then, and there is no where else I'd rather live. I'd never want to live in NJ/NY, people are too much into themselves that they don't care about other folks. Cali is the same way, folks from there seem to think you should be impressed just 'cause they hail from thereI have to tell you friend, that this is so refreshing to hear from an immigrant who has made this country their home. I work with a few people like this and they are really fine people. Thank you for your remarks and sentiments and your stand for being an American. As for your question, "maybe I should say I'm Southern American", how about turning it around and saying "an American Southerner? Thanks again for you fine comments. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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Well I sur hope I didn't start anything with all of this North/South stuff. As I said, I love the entire country and cannot ever imagine leaving it to live somewhere else outside of the U.S. Of course, my preference is here in the South and eventually, further south as in South Carolina most likely. But this is a truly great nation to be able to claim as your home. We are indeed fortunate to live here. This morning, I took a co-worker to a local range for some shooting. I helped him buy his first gun last week at the Dulles Expo Gun Show (he purchased a Glock 19). So this morning we were off to Izaac Walton League in the bottom of Fairfax, where I have been a member since 1994. He did well and his 19 is excellent.. better than mine. He's from Peru though I had thought he was from Guam. He's been here since he was six and has served in the American Armed Forces. He is definitely glad he is an American. Well, there's grass to cut.. already changed the wife's oil (car, that is - no jokes). |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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SouthernBoy wrote: eyesopened wrote:Here is a perspective from guy that wasn't even born in this country. I LIKE VIRGINIA! I've lived in Virginia ever since immigrating here in 1989. I've traveled to other states for business and pleasure since then, and there is no where else I'd rather live. I'd never want to live in NJ/NY, people are too much into themselves that they don't care about other folks. Cali is the same way, folks from there seem to think you should be impressed just 'cause they hail from thereI have to tell you friend, that this is so refreshing to hear from an immigrant who has made this country their home. I work with a few people like this and they are really fine people. Yep, it reaffirms that being american is not an ethnic identity but one based solely on principles of the highest order. Principles that anyone, and everyone, can live by. Some come to this country to make money, but you will notice they have little interest in becoming an American. Some come because of the principles of freedom and the dignity we as a nation (less some individuals who IMO ought to leave) strive to recognize in all human beings. Those who desire to live by these principles are proud to be called "American" no matter where they are from. I do believe that America is unique in the world like this, as a whole. |
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hsmith Regular Member
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I think immigrants value what it means to be an american and understand our rights better than natural citizens. whenever i go to eat OC'ing somewhere that is owned by someone not naturally born, they always seem more hospitable. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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hsmith wrote: I think immigrants value what it means to be an american and understand our rights better than natural citizens.That's cause you scare them. |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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SouthernBoy wrote: hsmith wrote:I think immigrants value what it means to be an american and understand our rights better than natural citizens.That's cause you scare them. Ha! What a racist thing to say :^). My experience is that most foreigners are afraid of me when they see my gun. They are not used to it, are prejudiced by the media due to lack of personal experience, and usually come from a country where only the government (usually made up of bad guys) and bad guys have guns. But I can also imagine some foreigners who come here are not afraid because they are not prejudiced and are able to tell you are a good guy and like the fact you're free to carry. They probably wish they (the good guys) were able to carry in their own country. Just suppossen |
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VApatriot Regular Member
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The South WILL rise again! But back on topic. . . After over five months of open carrying, today was the first time anyone, outside of a gun-related function, has said anything to me about my firearm. Sonoco on Burke Rd. in Burke - I have carried there many times before (my Silverado helps to keep them in the black), but mostly just at the pump. Today I need to fill a gas can for the mower; so I went in and paid $3 (not even a full gallon ). I handed over the cash and turned around to go back to the truck, but before I was out the door the cashier asked, "Is that a real gun?" I answered with a simple "Yes" and a smile, and I was on my way.Last edited on Sat Apr 19th, 2008 11:47 pm by VApatriot |
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VApatriot Regular Member
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Days like today are what make me wish I could conceal when and wherever I want to. I just don't like having to get my pistol wet, all because I don't have a little piece to paper from the state. Despite the rain, I OCed to Sears at Fair Oaks Mall and the Home Depot in Springfield. No questions, no comments and no cops at either business. |
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Nelson_Muntz Activist Member
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Take heart VAPatriot. A lil rain won't hurt it. On saturday I oc'd at Home Depot for about the millionth time. Saw the flowers were all displayed at the garden shop and it stopped me on my way to the front door. Wandered through the garden shop looking for a specific plant. Walked through the garden check out, which was surprisingly not busy. Overheard one cashier tell the other that 'don't worry, its early, the crazies will be here soon'. Just then I broke their plane of vision and the one speaking immediately shut up as she noticed my strong side. After looking around some I decided I had a lot to pick up and headed back out to the front to get a cart. Cashier 1 bid me 'have a nice day sir and hope to see you again'. I responded that I was just getting a cart. She said, 'oh, we're going to see you again?' lol Got my cart, entered through the front door and wandered through the bbq's and outdoor furniture on my way back to the garden area. It was pretty much deserted there except for me. Oh, and a tail I picked up. Cashier 1 must have called loss prevention and this guy followed me up and down every aisle and stood off while I browsed items. Hope he didn't think he was slick and I was unaware. Anyway, when I started filling my cart with merchandise he decided to break off. The rest of the spend fest was uneventful, except for a helpful employee who found a specific item I needed. |
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nova Regular Member
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VApatriot wrote: Days like today are what make me wish I could conceal when and wherever I want to. I just don't like having to get my pistol wet, all because I don't have a little piece to paper from the state. I feel your pain. On rainy days I try to stay inside as much as possible (or at least in my truck if I have to go out) Last edited on Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 01:40 am by nova |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Stainless steel, plastic and a well oiled barrel :^). It really shouldn't harm it unless it's blued and you don't let it dry or keep it oiled. It'd be a good excuse to fondle it for awhile :^). |
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nova Regular Member
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Now would be a good time to break out the SC Johnson Paste wax. That's some good stuff especially for wet environments Already have it applied to one of my P95s that get handled the most so I don't need to worry about sweat or fingerprints rusting the slide (the only vulnerable part, and even then it isn't blued, it is a tough black (most likely phosphate) finish ) |
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DoubleR Activist Member
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Neplusultra wrote: We found a Shakee's Pizza Parlor and went in. Yep, between Hybla Valley and Beacon Hill, likely. Actually not far from the 1320 Club, IIRC. Oh yeah, that was a wild strip of Rt. 1, back in the '60's - '70s. Wagon Wheel Motel, White Owl Restaurant. Those were the good ole' days. Oh yeah, Hillbilly Heaven and the Bar-J in Lorton, too. Been here all my life and remember it well. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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DoubleR wrote: Yep, between Hybla Valley and Beacon Hill, likely. Actually not far from the 1320 Club, IIRC. Oh yeah, that was a wild strip of Rt. 1, back in the '60's - '70s. Wagon Wheel Motel, White Owl Restaurant. Those were the good ole' days. Oh yeah, Hillbilly Heaven and the Bar-J in Lorton, too. Been here all my life and remember it well. What was Sergeant Major Plumley's line in the movie, We Were Soldiers Once? He was talking to the young officers during a training exercise. Oh, yes. "If any of you sonsofbitches calls me 'grandpa,' I'll kill you." Last edited on Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 04:56 am by Citizen |
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DoubleR Activist Member
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Citizen wrote: What was Sergeant Major Plumley's line in the movie, We Were Soldiers Once?That's the one... |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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DoubleR wrote: Neplusultra wrote:We found a Shakee's Pizza Parlor and went in. Yep, that's where it was. It was there for a long time and then became something else, not sure if the building is still there or not since I no longer live in the area. You forgot "The Dixie Pig" in your list :^). |
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DoubleR Activist Member
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Neplusultra wrote: DoubleR wrote:Absolutely right.Neplusultra wrote:We found a Shakee's Pizza Parlor and went in. |
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bohdi Regular Member
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Puppy graduated from basic obedience at Petsmart. Training was more for the family than anything. It was worth it but before spending anymore I'll be going over the entire course again. Doesn't do anygood when some family members don't have an authoritative voice and ask the dog instead of telling it what to do....but that's another matter. I open carried as usual, spoke to two other people in the class that "suddenly" noticed I was carrying after 8 weeks, lol. It was a good conversation about the usual stuff, not being illegal, people not noticing, and not knowing their rights. A few more enlightened individuals. |
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SouthernBoy Regular Member
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This morning, I OC'd to Costco in Manassas. I had thought that others had problems there, but it was a no-brainer. Place was crowded at opening and had to wait a few minutes in a line to get in. For some reason, I just seemed to recall Costco's not supporting OC, but I guess that is not the case. A few other places on the way home which have seen my armed presence before. |
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G9M&P15 Regular Member
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Citizen wrote:Different thread, please. This one is for reporting Open Carry experiences. I bought my Smith and Wesson M&P15 from Trader Jerry's at the Chantilly show. Good deal. Actually on-topic: I'm new here. I turned eighteen on the 20th, which means I can finally open carry. Will start as soon as I get a decent holster for my Glock 19. It's actually my Father's, and I've been looking into a Kimber since I fired a Friend's. Off topic question, does anyone else find it odd that as an 18 year old, I can be trusted to open-carry but not concealed carry? I would never have guessed before reading this thread that NOVA would have this many open-carriers. I just assumed so because of constant barrage of anti-gun BS at my old High School (South Lakes). Looking forward to this. |
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Glock27Bill Regular Member
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G9M&P15 wrote: Citizen wrote: Happy Birthday, G9M&P15. I'd be interested in hearing what they've been telling you at school. Maybe you could post a new thread and educate the rest of us. I don't have kids, and wasn't aware of that kind of propagand around here (I live in Fairfax County). |
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KodiakISGOOD Regular Member
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G9M&P15 wrote: I bought my Smith and Wesson M&P15 from Trader Jerry's at the Chantilly show. Good deal. Really........ How was that possible? Congrats on being an adult now! happy carrying, jason Last edited on Sun Apr 27th, 2008 12:17 pm by KodiakISGOOD |
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nova Regular Member
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G9M&P15 wrote: Citizen wrote: I just turned 19 today myself I've started to carry one of my P95 9mms with me while in my truck and have OC'd a few times as well. Some states have the age for a CCW permit at 18, unfortunately VA isn't one of them. |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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Great encounter today. I'm looking to buy a (gorgeous, by the way) used GoldWing motorcycle. Arranged today to go look/test drive. Owner is in Fairfax - a military retiree. As I walked up the driveway with my sidearm on my belt, the owner came out, we shook hands and all that intro stuff, then he asked if I was LE. I said no, just a second-amendment activist and preferring to be responsible for my own safety. He got a big grin on his face and said "I'm glad there are people like you out there." We were there about an hour and a half, and guns wandered into the conversation several times. I ended up talking briefly about requirements to carry in Virginia, gave him a VCDL yellow card, and made a friend, I think. And yes, I'll pick up the bike later this week. |
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Glock27Bill Regular Member
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Tess wrote: Great encounter today. I assume you'll be riding it to the next VCDL meeting so we can all check it out, Tess. And oh, yeah, post pics. |
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G9M&P15 Regular Member
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KodiakISGOOD wrote:
It's not mine per se. It's the Family rifle. I had more to do with deciding on a make and got prices from various places and friends. I've put more rounds through that thing than anyone else, though. My Dad has weapons for a SHTF scenario, whereas to me, that's just an additional perk-- I like plinking. Glock27Bill wrote:
Oh, it wasn't curriculum, really. Nothing in official school policy or anything of that nature. Just the fact that Northern Virginia is an irritatingly blue speck at the tip of Virginia, and as such, all the teachers who want to be here are very liberal. It's just generally understood, while unspoken, that the majority is anti-gun, and I learned to just keep quiet because I'm not a fan of confrontation. Just a somewhat hostile, yet polite, environment. Worst thing I had to deal with was my Government teacher. She was convinced that the 2nd Amendment meant that the National Guard should have guns. Didn't seem to understand my argument that there's no reason to enshrine the right of our military to carry weapons in our Constitution, but some people's minds just aren't going to be changed. Well, this has blown severely off-topic. Let's try something to get this back on track, then. Any advice on a good, solid holster for a Glock 19? I know several Federal employees who claim that leather is for cowboys and I should just go the whole nine tupperware yards. Holsters are something I have absolutely no experience with. Neither do I have experience with Tactical slings for the AR, for that matter. I guess I'm not much of an accessories man. Apologizes for the amount of bizarre ramblings, I'm afraid it's a characteristic of mine. EDIT: Upon rereading my post, it occurred to me that just about nothing here was on-topic, even the supposedly on-topic portion. To clarify, I mean somewhere to purchase locally (stores? Wait for a show?) and that wouldn't be extraordinarily conspicuous. There, I suppose that ties this in with Open Carry in NOVA, doesn't it? Somehow? EDITx2: Upon rereading my post for a second time, it occurred to me why I have no experience with holsters. I didn't need one till I was old enough to OC. Every time I've brought a handgun somewhere, it's been in a case in the back of a car or in a range stall. Last edited on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 07:48 am by G9M&P15 |
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Polygon Regular Member
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This topic makes for a very interesting read, and I just wanted to clarify something: according to the Virginia Gun Rights brochure, it says that it is illegal in Fairfax to carry a loaded firearm on you in public places. So I take it you guys who open and carry never load the firearm before going in public areas? Sorry for the newbie question, Poly Edit: Nevermind, that law pertains to individuals who carry a magazine that exceeds 20 rounds. Last edited on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 09:06 am by Polygon |
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eyesopened Regular Member
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G9M&P15 wrote: KodiakISGOOD wrote: Have you taken your ridilin today? These stores carry lots of holsters and from my experience will allow you to try the holsters after they've verfied your pistol is unloaded: Gilbert's Small Arms Range GM - Ernie Lyles Gunsmith - Larry Wright 8194-M Terminal Rd. Lorton VA 22079 703.550.8005 Guns and Ammo Warehouse 10590 Redoubt Rd. Manassas VA 20110 (703) 365-9941 Quantico Arms & Tactical Supply, Inc. 253 Potomac Ave Quantico, VA 22134 703.630.2715 Quantico Arms Virginia Arms Co. 9760 Center St. Manassas VA 20110 703-368-3949 http://www.virginiaarms.com The Nations Gun Show also has numerous dealers selling holsters and they allow you to try them as well. If you're planning on OC a pistol, I'd go with a holster that has at least Level 2 retention. The Blackhawk Sherpa is a popular holster. |
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nova Regular Member
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Well there's one vote for the BLACKHAWK! Serpa...now I'm just waiting for the rest of the bombardment I'm thinking of getting one for my Hi-power but I see no point in that until I can get it to run reliably...still having feed issues, most likely due to the older "humped" feed ramp on the barrel according to hipowersandhandguns.com I'm hoping it is just because it was refinished (by the previous owner) with a duracoat finish which tightened the tolerances, and hopefully will become reliable after the finish wears in on the slide and rails. Right now I have a belt slide with thumbbreak for it but it rides so high and close to the body it is really more suited for CC than OC. |
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eyesopened Regular Member
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nova wrote: Well there's one vote for the Is it a bad holster or something? I've noticed at gun shows where lots of people are OC, there are a large number who use the Serpa. I finally bit the bullet and picked one up for my XD at the Fredericksburg show. My brother bought one for his commander and I tried my EMP in there and it fits nicely (albeit with a lot of extra barrel room ) |
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nova Regular Member
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I've never heard anything bad about it, the was just because I occasionally see people poking fun at the fact they have an exclamation point in the brand name like they're yelling BLACKHAWK at you If they made one for my Ruger .45 I would jump on that. So I figure as soon as I get my hi-power to run reliably I'll get one for it for OC. Last edited on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 09:00 pm by nova |
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BUBB4H Regular Member 
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It's been awhile since I've posted. In fact, I don't think I've posted since I changed my name. Anyway, let's see... Giant in Reston, of course no problem. Reston Valet, no problem. Boston Market in Reston - nada. Walmart near dulles town center - bought some ammo, chatted with the clerk, had no problem. Dick's sporting goods in the dulles town center - bought some ammo, chatted with the clerk, had no problem. Red Robin, just down the road from Blue Ridge Arsenal, had no problem. Keep in mind I was wearing blue jeans and a black t-shirt. nothing fancy. i sure am glad to see that it's not even causing second glances. not a single stare. |
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BUBB4H Regular Member
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So I took Peaches to the range with my new Kimber (she's working out really nice Kaiheitai). She's never shot a .45 before. First shot. She bullseye's the damn target at 15yds. She was a former competitive shooter years ago and she still reminds me of that fact. Needless to say by the time we were done shooting she wants her own Kimber. So now that she feels comfortable with the pistols we have, she's the newest addition to the open carry community! Last edited on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 09:26 pm by BUBB4H |
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kaiheitai17 Regular Member
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That's great news there Bubb! Sorry I don't have another Kimber for you,. The princess never shot in her life and frequently does much better than me . It's great to hear that Peaches is with us now too. The princess is still nervous but after last Saturday night has reconsidered and may start carrying more often. |
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VApatriot Regular Member
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I have a Serpa for my 1911 and my brother got one for his XD, and we couldn't be happier with them. If they made one for the Walther P22, I would have that also. |
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nova Regular Member
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BUBB4H wrote: So I took Peaches to the range with my new Kimber (she's working out really nice Kaiheitai). Funny... I rented a Kimber and with my first box of ammo through it I got the wants for one as well...  |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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This is a report thread, folks. As opposed to a discussion thread. |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Citizen wrote: This is a report thread, folks. I'd like to report that I think that was a fantastic 5 yard group you shot :^). Do I get extra points for making a smart ass reply to *two* posts in one sentence???? |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Neplusultra wrote: Citizen wrote:This is a report thread, folks. Ok, Ok, I get it. You win. You definitely have the smartest ass on the forum. |
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nova Regular Member
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Neplusultra wrote: Citizen wrote:This is a report thread, folks. It was at 15yds Ok back to NOVA OC reports Sorry for hijacking the thread. Last edited on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 04:01 am by nova |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Citizen wrote: Neplusultra wrote:Citizen wrote:This is a report thread, folks. I once worked at this pizza place where this one guy had the tightest (and cutest) ass of everyone there, but I don't remember anyone having the smartest ass. Pretty much all asses are dumb :^). But we're off topic again :^). Stop it here, please....This could go on forever. Edit: And by the way the voting on the best ass was done by both the women and men at the pizza parlor. So don't "project" more than you should :^). Last edited on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 05:18 am by Neplusultra |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Neplusultra wrote: Citizen wrote:Neplusultra wrote:Citizen wrote:This is a report thread, folks. I was referring to where you keep your "smarts." |
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Harper1227 Regular Member
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Saturday went to Shoppers in Lorton with my husband OCing, no issues as usual. Actually got a thumbs up and short chat with a guy CCing. and my husband got a very flirty 'i feel safe now' from some woman. We've never had problems carrying there before but this was a very positive experience. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Here's one for the "Can't Judge a Book by Its Cover" category. I was OCing in a NoVA convenience store today. While waiting in line to pay, I saw a woman that I thought had anti- stamped all over her. My tactics call for me to hit the "record" button at the thought there even might be trouble. So, I turned on the recorder. She walks up and stands in line right behind me. I pay when its my turn. She notices the gun. She asks, "You must be a police officer, because I know that can't be legal." Not harsh. Not really even a challenge in her tone. Somewhat friendly, actually. I told her I wasn't a police officer and that it was legal. To which she replied, "Oh? I've got my concealed [permit], but I didn't know it was legal to carry it openly." So much for spotting an anti- in advance. |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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I carried openly in the UPS store on US1 today - no issues at all. Was there about 20 minutes, having stuff mailed and other stuff notarized. Then spouse carried in the Ft Belvoir Credit Union on US1 - some wide eyes, but nothing said, either there or at our local 7-11. |
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Citizen wrote:
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fizzer wrote: Citizen wrote: The same was true for me too. I guess is was never covered in the class. I should call them about that. |
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OCd at Fuddrucker's in Ashburn last night (May 4). Met Ed and his family & friends for dinner, nice group of folks. As I was walking around looking for them, I got one from a guy sitting at a table with about 6 kids. Other than that, no issues. |
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OC'd at a jewelry store in Manassas Mall. Went to pick up some jewelry just back from repair for Lisa. Manager and clerk were sitting at a display case gabbing when I walked in. I told them what I was there to pick up. They asked if I had my receipt with me, which I did not. The indicated they would just need some picture ID so they could record the serial number on it. I said OK. They got up to move to the safe and passed me strong side. After they retrieved the piece I offerred my ID but the manager refused to look at it. "That's OK. I don't need it." Stopped in at Office Depot to pick up couple of high back leather chairs I ordered online. The instructions were to provide ID and a credit card. I began to dig for it when the clerk dismissed it with a "don't worry about it." They even brought them outside to my vehicle and loaded them up for me. Seems my lil friend is all the ID I need! OC'd at the Synergy One FCU. I held the door open for an older gentleman who was right behind me. He remarked that it wasn't often you see a firearm carried openly when in civilian clothes. I told him that I didn't have much choice as I only had civilian clothes. He smiled. |
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I just got back from a road trip late Friday afternoon (actually a short vacation). So this morning, I had to pick up some things and hit Lowe's in Gainesville. Then on to Advance Auto in Manassass across from the Mall. When I was heading back out to my car, a gentleman asked me if I was law enforcement, to which I responded that I was just a citizen. Well for the next 15 minutes, we had a great conversation. He is from Tennessee and has his CCW as well as being a life member. He was most anxious and interested in questioning me about carrying in Virginia. He was amazed that OC'ing did not result in problems with the law and other citizens. I explained that Virginia is the most lenient of all of the Southern states in terms of guns and their carry and use. In all, it was a fine encounter. Then off to the Home Depot at Balls Ford Road. Finished up at Shopper's in Gainesville where a lady who I frequently see on weekends did a when see saw my little friend. Had a nice short conversation with her and the lady who handled my checkout.As usual, no problems, no screaming/running people, and no calls for "man with a gun". |
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Another OC non-event today. Since this is the last day of my "vacation", I had some things to take care of.. OC'ing, of course. Ate breakfast at McDonald's in Haymarket. Then off to the Wachovia Bank in Somerset (CC'd there due to their sign). Next to Barnes and Noble in Manassas, followed by a visit to Hollywood Video - also in Manassas. Virginia Arms was my next stop to get a 3.5 connector for my Glock 23. Finally gassed up at the BP station in Somerset. Once more, no , no screams, no cries for "man with a gun". |
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VApatriot Regular Member
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I OCed at Dick's Sporting Goods in Fair Lakes today. Mostly uneventful. I grabbed some cleaning supplies and then went over to look at the long-gun cases. While I was comparing a couple of cases, there was a message over the loud speaker that said, "Security sweep in section two." It passed through my mind that the message might be for me, but I continued to browse through the shooting supplies. Shortly after that an employee came over to ask if I needed help with anything. He noticed my VCDL hat, complimented me on it, offered his hand for a friendly shake and asked how he could assist me. I asked him about the rifle cases, and he recommended one that he uses himself. I'm not really good at trying to making small talk with relative strangers, so I just got what I needed, thanked the employee and left. I didn't get a name, but I guess he might be a fellow VCDL member. So, if you're out there, thanks for the help and nice meeting you. |
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BUBB4H Regular Member
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Went to the FedEx in the middle of freaking nowhere Herndon to pick up a package. No problems. |
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hsmith Regular Member
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I've been a bad OC'er, I finally picked up a digital voice recorder this weekend. $60 Sony Digital from Best Buy. Hope I never need it. |
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Nelson_Muntz Activist Member
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Lesson Learned: Check tall grass for dog toys. Stopped at both Lowe's and Home Depot after work yesterday to get a replacement mower. After I wheeled the large, unwieldy box to the back of my truck I maneuvered it to lift over the tailgate. I was dressed a little nice to be manhandling the stupid, dirty thing but didn't really mind as I was going home shortly. Two passers by offerred assistance lifting. One was in a truck driving by and stopped, the other was previously sitting at the local eatery's outdoor table. They were very nice. I think they may have made some assumptions, but no questions were asked and no answers were volunteered. I'll be looking for some parts at the NAPA on C'ville rd this afternoon after work. See if the good 'ol boys want to chat. |
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Nelson_Muntz Activist Member
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Was quite the smooth time at Curry's Automotive (NAPA) yesterday. I did get some but that was 'cause I was wearing a tie. Good 'ol boys were content discussing the minor earth shake in Annandale. A little while after I got home, my dog started snarling, barking etc. out the front window. A moment later the doorbell rang. I exited the house so the excited dog wouldn't escape and lunge at whatever riled him, and I came face to face with a young man with a clipboard. The young man looked me up and down, noting the weapon, looked at the dog through the window and said to me "looks like I can't help you." He was selling security alarm systems! (Don't care who ya are - that right there was funny) |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Nelson_Muntz wrote: SNIP He was selling security alarm systems! That right there was funny. You might be red-neck if... |
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Nelson_Muntz Activist Member
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Careful Citizen. You wouldn't happen to know DICK Saslaw personally, would you? |
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KodiakISGOOD Regular Member
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Nelson_Muntz wrote: Careful Citizen. You wouldn't happen to know DICK Saslaw personally, would you? I dunno about Saslaw, but I've heard that Citizen and Leo229 are very close . |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Nelson_Muntz wrote: Careful Citizen. You wouldn't happen to know DICK Saslaw personally, would you? "You might be a red-neck if you are in either part of the population that Saslaw isn't talking about when he is riding in an elevator." "You might be a red-neck if you have Dick "Banjo" Saslaw as your state senator." "You might be a red-neck if you do NOT have Dick Saslaw as your state senator." "I'm a red-neck and I love my senator!" "Me and Dick Saslaw get together frequently for banjo practice. We call him "Fingers" back in the hollow. (But that's on account of his reaching for your wallet.)" "Me and Dick Saslaw get together frequently for banjo practice. We call him "Pick Saslaw" back in the hollow. (But that's on account of him always reachin' for your pocket.)" "Turn down that collar, Dick. You should be proud of your 'glorious absence of sophistication.' " What do banjo's and pockets have to do with one another? Whether he's calling you names or raising your taxes, either way you're getting "Dicked." Oh, can't leave out this one, even if its not Dick-inspired: "You might be a red-neck if you cling to your guns and religion." Last edited on Thu May 8th, 2008 12:43 am by Citizen |
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Nelson_Muntz Activist Member
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Citizen, you wouldn't be the guy dressed in a black suit on the end stool sippin whiskey would ya? Tater? Dick Tater? |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Nelson_Muntz wrote: Citizen, you wouldn't be the guy dressed in a black suit on the end stool sippin whiskey would ya? Tater? Dick Tater? Owww. That hurts. But it is pretty good. That's funny right there. I don't care who you are. "Yeah. Up at the General Assembly we call him Dick "Tater" Saslaw. And it ain't on account of his face lookin' like salad." "Huh? No. Coleslaw. Saslaw. It don't matter. I done told you it wasn't his face that got him that nick-name." Last edited on Thu May 8th, 2008 12:50 am by Citizen |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Two positive encounters recently. 1. The fella ahead of me in line at a grocery store checkout saw the weapon and wanted to confirm that OC was legal. He asked if there was a size limit. I almost told him a towed howitzer would probably be frowned upon, but decided against it and told him no size limit. He then asked, "even a 9mm?" As though that was a big gun. I left him with some websites to check. I only now remember that in some countries 9mm is forbidden "because its a military caliber." He is a citizen, but perhaps naturalized. 2. A woman in a convenience store asked about my gun. It was the classic disbelief that it was real. Then came the questions about licensing. She didn't object to the gun, she just didn't know. Last edited on Fri May 9th, 2008 03:33 am by Citizen |
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nova Regular Member
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Citizen wrote: Two positive encounters recently. A friend of mine back in HS thought my .45 was illegal because it was bigger than a .38/9mm...I told him about the restrictions in Australia and that we have no such thing here, he's now educated |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Citizen wrote: 2. A woman in a convenience store asked about my gun. It was the classic disbelief that it was real. Then came the questions about licensing. She didn't object to the gun, she was just didn't know. You know if someone is incredulous that it's a "real" gun it must be the first time they've actually seen one in real life. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Neplusultra wrote: Citizen wrote:2. A woman in a convenience store asked about my gun. It was the classic disbelief that it was real. Then came the questions about licensing. She didn't object to the gun, she was just didn't know. I'm thinking they're just having their sense of "reality" shaken. I can imagine a person seeing something so unusual (to them) coming up with a number of different ways to express it. I imagine the incredulousness comes first, and the questions are just a symptom of trying to find an "understandable" explanation that puts the world back to rights for them. Meaning the question you get is indicative of the "reality" they have as they try to regain their mental footing. "That can't be real." "Is that real?" "Don't you have to have a license?" "Are you a cop?" Ever notice that as your explanation goes further along, their incredulousness eases as you expand their understanding? It may turn into anger or indignation if their an anti-gunner, but the incredulousness disappears. Which gives me an idea. If they seem to be an anti-gunner, the best thing might be to leave them with their incredulousness: "No, ma'am. Its not real," as I turn to walk away. "I can't tell you whether I'm a cop." "Don't you need a license to be snoopy?" Anyway, this is a report thread and I'm doing too much yakking. Back to reports. Last edited on Thu May 8th, 2008 03:40 am by Citizen |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Citizen wrote: If they seem to be an anti-gunner, the best thing might be to leave them with their incredulousness: Good grief, three out loud laughs in one night. But you're right, a bit off topic we are. |
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