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hlh Regular Member 
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Let's start an OC thread for the Richmond area!  We OC'd at the HKKB on 60 in Midlothian. No problems and good food! |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at the Sycamore Square Italian Cafe, Midlothian, off Midlothian turnpike. No problems, good pizza. |
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rchjr Regular Member 
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OC'd Mickey D's on Hopkins, FoodLion x 2 on Hopkins, and subway on hopkins. No problems. |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd in Autozone in Powhatan on highway 60. Received extra attention and service due to OC (I think), but no comments or problems. |
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Sigaleps Regular Member
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OC'd IHOPS Midlothian trnpk 08/27...place was packed...enjoyed breakfast with family...my 3yo got a free pancake from staff...no problems |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at Kroger foods on Hugeunot Rd. in Midlothian. Nobody noticed. |
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SicSemperTyrannis Regular Member
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Borders at Short Pump Town center (open carry there about once a week) Ukrops in Short Pump (open carry there multiple times per week) Staples to buy packing supplies (third time open carrying there) Shell at Pump Road in Short Pump (open carry there about five times per week) |
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Sigaleps Regular Member
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SicSemperTyrannis wrote: Borders at Short Pump Town center (open carry there about once a week) I thought Short Pump Town Center had a no guns policy... |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member 
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Its great to see things have straightened out in Short Pump. I'm sure many of us remember the unpleasantness there some months back. Looks like the local constabulary got the word, huh? |
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SicSemperTyrannis Regular Member
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Short Pump Town Center does have a no guns policy, for what it is worth. But the Barnes and Noble is right next to the mall (facing West Broad Street), but not actually in the mall or part of the mall, just on the same tract of land (I said Borders in my original post, I meant Barnes and Noble, although I have open carried at the Borders on West Broad several times as well). Barnes and Noble has always been open carry friendly as far as I can tell (see numerous other postings about carrying there). In fact, I have carried there several times when off-cuty, uniformed Henrico Police and Sherriff deputies were present (they provide security in the evenings on the weekend) - although I may not have been noticed. |
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SicSemperTyrannis Regular Member
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"Its great to see things have straightened out in Short Pump. I'm sure many of us remember the unpleasantness there some months back. Looks like the local constabulary got the word, huh?" REPLY: I hope so. But it could be more a matter of I have not run into any police officers since that night while open carrying (I am the guy who had the "run-in"). Based on the Chief's subsequent comments to Philip Van Cleave and the results of the internal affairs investigation, combined with my own relentless (but polite) counter-efforts (involving VCDl, the Justice Department, the local commonwealths attorney, my father who is an attorney, etc) I suspect things will be fine now, but we really won't know until another open carrier has a direct encounter with a Henrico officer! If an officer simply approaches to have a brief, non-custodial, consensual conversation with an open carrier to politely and subtly "check 'em out", I'd say that is fine by me. The test will be if that is where things end or not. Personally, I'd prefer not to be the "second case" after having been the first (not good for my nerves!), but I am committed to my rights as a Virginian. Hopefully, some others are open carrying in the Short Pump area now. Other than that one night, I've never had a problem anywhere around here, having open carried at least a couple hundred times.... Last edited on Tue Aug 29th, 2006 10:51 pm by SicSemperTyrannis |
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hkspwrsche Regular Member
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what about contacting the news or newpaper about this issue and rights? |
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meandmyglock Regular Member
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Hi guys, new to the forum. I oc just about everywhere I go and have never had a problem. I live off Hull St and my sidearm goes with me everywhere. |
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rchjr Regular Member
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meandmyglock, Welcome!! I'm another southsider and OC'r. Looking forward to meeting you the next dinner we have. |
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mercutio545 Regular Member 
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Ahhh have I got a story for you guys. Last May, my roommate and I were coming back from Dominion shooting range with my mossberg maverick (the 6 shot security model, it has the knoxx spec ops stock on it, ghost ring sights, all the good stuff any home defense shotgun needs). We go to VCU, and live in student housing, so since I'm not allowed to keep it at my place (DUH!), it stays at my roommate's girlfriend's apartment. When I want go to the range, I pick it up, then bring it back, clean it, and put it back in the case. Anyways, since she lives in the fan, there was nowhere to park as usual. We had to park a good 3 blocks away from her apartment and walk it back. I didnt have the case with me, so I decided to just open carry it back. I made sure it was unloaded, that the chamber was clear, and the safety was on, then we proceeded to walk back (I was holding it by the fore-end with the barrel pointing at the ground.). It was pretty dark out, and wouldn't you know it, a Richmond police officer was walking right towards us. He sees it, then proceeds to shout multiple expletives, grabs it out of my hands, threatens us with "felony charges" (he said something like "you want a felony boy?!"), and made us stand against the wall, while calling for another officer. The other cop arrived and the first officer told him what happened. The second officer asked him if I was brandishing it, if it was loaded, etc, which he answered no. Then the second officer told us that, while open carrying was legal, we could be arrested for "disturbing the peace since walking down grove ave. with a riot shotgun isn't really the smartest idea". I then asked if I was free to go, and he said that he was going to drive the gun to the apartment, while we walked there. I told him that I had the right to open carry and I was going to walk it myself, and he literally threw it in the back of the car (which really pissed me off) and drove to the apartment. |
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meandmyglock Regular Member
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rchjr wrote: meandmyglock, Sounds good! It's good to know I'm not the only one out here. |
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Mike Super Moderator
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mercutio545 wrote: Ahhh have I got a story for you guys. Last May, my roommate and I were coming back from Dominion shooting range with my mossberg maverick (the 6 shot security model, it has the knoxx spec ops stock on it, ghost ring sights, all the good stuff any home defense shotgun needs). We go to VCU, and live in student housing, so since I'm not allowed to keep it at my place (DUH!), it stays at my roommate's girlfriend's apartment. When I want go to the range, I pick it up, then bring it back, clean it, and put it back in the case. Anyways, since she lives in the fan, there was nowhere to park as usual. We had to park a good 3 blocks away from her apartment and walk it back. I didnt have the case with me, so I decided to just open carry it back. I made sure it was unloaded, that the chamber was clear, and the safety was on, then we proceeded to walk back (I was holding it by the fore-end with the barrel pointing at the ground.). It was pretty dark out, and wouldn't you know it, a Richmond police officer was walking right towards us. He sees it, then proceeds to shout multiple expletives, grabs it out of my hands, threatens us with "felony charges" (he said something like "you want a felony boy?!"), and made us stand against the wall, while calling for another officer. The other cop arrived and the first officer told him what happened. The second officer asked him if I was brandishing it, if it was loaded, etc, which he answered no. Then the second officer told us that, while open carrying was legal, we could be arrested for "disturbing the peace since walking down grove ave. with a riot shotgun isn't really the smartest idea". I then asked if I was free to go, and he said that he was going to drive the gun to the apartment, while we walked there. I told him that I had the right to open carry and I was going to walk it myself, and he literally threw it in the back of the car (which really pissed me off) and drove to the apartment. You should make a complaint to the police department - tell me though, any reason you did not keep it loaded and just walk with the gun slung over your shoulder? |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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Mike- It happened back in May, and I didn't get either of their badge numbers. I wasn't thinking, and I was a little freaked out (it was my first time open carrying, and wouldn't you know, I got stopped). If it happens again I will definitely get the officers badge number and file a complaint. I didn't keep it loaded because I thought that something like that would happen. I mean, come on. I'm a 19 year old who doesn't exactly look like the average responsible, armed citizen. I had mid-length hair and was wearing a hat, t-shirt, some shorts and chuck taylors. Do you know anybody else my age (excluding those from a more lax, rural area) that open carries? My dad is a green beret, so I've been around guns my entire life, and was taught at a very early age to be responsible about them, but police officers DEFINITELY profile people, and there is no denying that. Also, I heard that shotguns and rifles couldn't be loaded while you were open carrying them. But I suppose I'm mistaken? Isn't it more than 7 shells or something? Also, I didn't, nor do I now have a sling for it. I keep wanting to get one (knoxx makes a really nice one that can be worn multiple ways), but acessorizing is an expensive habit for poor college kids  |
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VApatriot Regular Member 
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mercutio545 wrote: Then the second officer told us that, while open carrying was legal, we could be arrested for "disturbing the peace since walking down grove ave. with a riot shotgun isn't really the smartest idea". Can anyone point me to a place in VA law that defines what constitutes "disturbing the peace"? It doesn't seem like you should be able to be charged with anything if you aren't doing anything that is against the law. If I can have people arrested just because they where doing something that makes me uncomfortable, does that mean I could have anti-gunners arrested for trying to have the government disarm me?  |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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I know, its a load of BS. I should get a sling and walk down broad st. just for the hell of it/because i can. |
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Mike Super Moderator
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My thought is that a sling is a normal way to carry a rifle when not hunting or preparting to engage targets - sort of like a holster is the normal way to carry a handgun. I was not suggesting carrying rifles around just to cause a stir per se; a sling seems the way to go through when/if you are carrying a rifle. |
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VApatriot Regular Member
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mercutio545 wrote: I know, its a load of BS. I should get a sling and walk down broad st. just for the hell of it/because i can. The right to carry a long gun in public - use it or loose it. |
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rchjr Regular Member
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1st negative reaction to oc. I was OC'ing at Food Lion today as I do about 4 times a week in that store, and as I was going through the check out the cashier finished ringing my order and when she looked up noticed my weapon(talk about condition white). In a real loud voice she said "I don't think you should be able to carry that." Now I carry all the time and most of the times I don't even remember I'm armed, so for a moment I was perplexed as to what she was talking about. In the time it took to dawn on me that the weapon was the object of her displeasure, she continued in the same loud, if not louder, voice "Guns Kill People!". At this point the couple of registers that they had open had all stopped what they were doing and I found myself the focus of attention. I was trying to pay for my purchases and she was just standing there obviously waiting for a reply. Now I realize that being the example for the gun carrying community this was my shining moment to educate an obviously ignorant member of the anti-gun community on the reality of firearms in todays society. In fact two responses were simultaneously going through my head. One was that I respected her opinion concerning her beliefs, but that guns did not kill people, people killed people, and that I appreciated her respect for my beliefs that I'm responsible for the safety of myself and my family. Unfortunately I have been having a really, really bad day. I responded "You Know, I've had this gun for about 7 months and I haven't seen it do anything. Do you think I should take it back for a new one?" I apologize for letting the Open Carry community down by missing my chance to educate an unbeliever, but the look on her face was priceless. Not to mention the laughter of the people around me. Just thought I would pass this along. I will try to be better!  |
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meandmyglock Regular Member
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Actually, I loved the response!! Which Food Lion and what was her name? I'll head over there tomorrow and see what happens!! Last edited on Mon Sep 4th, 2006 01:18 am by meandmyglock |
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TEX1N Regular Member 
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rchjr wrote: "You Know, I've had this gun for about 7 months and I haven't seen it do anything. Do you think I should take it back for a new one?" Classic! I don't think you necessarily let the gun community down. You may have pushed her more towards the anti-gun side, but since you got laughter from your immediate audience you could have pushed some of them more toward the pro side. For the rest of their lives anytime they hear the argument that "guns kill people," they are going to remember that your gun doesn't do anything! |
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Sigaleps Regular Member
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Had a negative OC encounter today, too.. Was on way to Busch Gardens with family today... Stopped by McDonalds along Midlothian and N. Arch Rd. for some burgers... While waiting on line to place order, supervisor calls my attention and tells me guns are not allowed in this place...I told her, I don't see any signs posted prohibitting guns...She insists that no guns allowed...I was not in the mood for a discussion so I turned to leave... Does anyone know if this is company policy? |
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SicSemperTyrannis Regular Member
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Several people, including myself, have carried at McDonalds in Virginia multiple times without incident... manager was likely just "making it up" - possibly confusing a company policy against EMPLOYEES carrying while on the job with patrons carrying (this happens sometimes). I'd call and politely ask for the district managers name and number, and make sure you explain when speaking with the district manager or a company rep that in Virginia it is fully legal for those over 18 to openly carry a handgun if not otherwise precluded (if you don't say this, some people think you are asking the company to condone something against the law). Tell them you know people who have done so multiple times without a problem, ask that the manager be politely educated. I have open carried at the McDonalds in Glen Allen on Broad Street many times.... |
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SicSemperTyrannis Regular Member
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I'm going to be over that way later this afternoon, I will open carry there later today. Anyone else? |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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My usual response to the anti-gun crowd: "Guns don't kill people. Bullets kill people." |
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hlh Regular Member
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RLH2005 and I OC'd at Chili's at Virginia Commons. The Chili's manager knew we were carrying, and of course our waiter, and not a peep. When we walked in the door a teen boy asked if we were cops. I just shook my head and ignored him after that. I probably should have ignored him period. No problems. Last edited on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 03:36 pm by |
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Mike Super Moderator
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hlh wrote: When we walked in the door a teen boy asked if we were cops. I just shook my head and ignored him after that. I probably should have ignored him period. No problems. That's the time to say "No, we're just citizens. Here's my card [hand out open carry education business card]. When you are 18 you can open carry like this without any license. When you are 21 you can get a concealed handgun permit too. |
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hlh Regular Member
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Mike wrote: hlh wrote:When we walked in the door a teen boy asked if we were cops. I just shook my head and ignored him after that. I probably should have ignored him period. No problems. Guess I need to get a set of cards made up. Can you post what your card says? |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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I have an idea. Perhaps someone can design an open carry business card template on microsoft word or something, and upload the link to the message board. Having a card with a link to this site is a great way to inform others about open carrying, rather than just telling them about it. I have some bandwith left over for my website, so I'd be happy to host it. What do you guys think? |
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hlh Regular Member
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mercutio545 wrote: I have an idea. Perhaps someone can design an open carry business card template on microsoft word or something, and upload the link to the message board. Having a card with a link to this site is a great way to inform others about open carrying, rather than just telling them about it. I have some bandwith left over for my website, so I'd be happy to host it. What do you guys think? Excellent idea! |
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cs9c1 Regular Member 
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I spotted a guy on a very nice Honda motorcycle kind of open carrying on I-95 in Richmond this Sunday on my way back from Drill. It looked like a Sig or Glock and his untucked shirt that was under his riding jacket was flapping in the wind just enough to see it. |
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hlh Regular Member
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cs9c1 wrote: I spotted a guy on a very nice Honda motorcycle kind of open carrying on I-95 in Richmond this Sunday on my way back from Drill. It looked like a Sig or Glock and his untucked shirt that was under his riding jacket was flapping in the wind just enough to see it. I always carry while riding, but normally carried concealed. All motorcycle riders "fall down" sometime. Some more than others. I personally don't like the idea of the gun being in the open to get scraped up or fall off in a crash. Plus it'll leave a heck of a bruise if you fall on it! |
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hlh wrote: Plus it'll leave a heck of a bruise if you fall on it! As opposed to the other bruises and rashes you're likely to get from a close encounter of the road kind. |
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hlh Regular Member
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rlh2005 wrote: hlh wrote:Plus it'll leave a heck of a bruise if you fall on it! You're right, what does another bruise matter?  |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd in Midlothian at the River City Diner for lunch and then next door at Great Clips for a haircut. Then on to Petsmart on Midlothian turnpike and then to Sam's warehouse. No problems anywhere, no one seemed to notice or care. |
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ballester Regular Member 
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Hey guys i am new here jsut signed up today.... i open carry the most to food lion in powhatan...the old one....and sometimes at barnes and noble across from chesterfield town center and never have any problems. still a little weary about were i carry because of the people around me...but oh well they have the right to... but you know how it goes the"it will never happen to me mentality" nuff said glad to be aboard |
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hlh Regular Member
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ballester wrote: Hey guys i am new here jsut signed up today.... i open carry the most to food lion in powhatan...the old one....and sometimes at barnes and noble across from chesterfield town center and never have any problems. still a little weary about were i carry because of the people around me...but oh well they have the right to... but you know how it goes the"it will never happen to me mentality" nuff said glad to be aboard Ballester, good to have you! |
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ballester Regular Member
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thank you sir glad to be here with folks from the commonwealth, makes me feel that i can connect and understand thing alot better. its nice for someone else to be able to say "yeah i was there friday and ....." instead of someone from ca that says "well here this is how it is". |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at Wendy's on Midlothinan Turnpike next door to the State police school, and then on to Northern Tools. No Problems. |
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SicSemperTyrannis Regular Member
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I open carry occasionally at the "old" Food Lion in Powhatan on Rt 60 and the bookstore across from Chesterfield Mall as well. When I spoke to the seargent the night of my encounter with the Henrico officer, I told him I was from Powhatan and he said "so am I. And I've never heard of anyone open carrying there". Sounds like there are at least two of us (my parents live out there, so I end up there at some point every other weekend or so). I just open carried at the Wal-Mart in Short Pump, the Ukrops at Short Pump and the Shell Station near the water tower in Short Pump - all places I've open carried many times before without a peep or problem... |
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hlh Regular Member
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"Livitup" and I OD's at Chili's at the Short Pump mall last night. No problems, and good eats. |
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A sad comment on that... As HLH knows, my Junior Eddie Eagle had a little car-sickness problem on the way to the eat-n-greet, necessatating a quick trip into Short Pump Town(e) Center to procure a new outfit for the toddler. I was about to run in with my wife, when I remembered how the management there prohibits just about anything fun. Having already been kicked out of there once (for photography, no less) I opted to drop the wife at the curb and wait outside. Of course, the thought of her running through the mall alone at 0-dark-thirty didn't exactly make me pleased. What really torques me though, in retrospect, is how much I felt like a criminal during those 5 minutes. I opted to undress the boy while mommy was in the mall, but I couldn't even do that in the well lit vestibule. I ended up pulling off to one of the loading dock areas, and using the door to shield my holster from public view while I disrobed the kid. Even so I felt like the first time I CC'd, like everyone's eyes were trained directly on me. Kinda sad that the management company would enact policies that make me feel that way. Needless to say I don't choose to go there if there is any other alternative. |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd yesterday at Wendy's on Midlothian turnpike. No problems. |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd today at lunch, and the River City Diner in Midlothian on Huguenot Rd. No worries... |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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Finally got my Ruger P345 yesterday (my first handgun, yay!). Pretty nice. 45 ACP, has a picatinny rail and it's the decocker version. Kicks like a pissed off ostrich too, I can't believe I've heard people say that it's a "women's gun". I've OC'd with my mossberg maverick security 12 gauge before (not in a store or anything, just around the block), almost always ending badly, but I OC'd with the 345 at the willow lawn target on broad, and the taco bell a block down, and no real problems to report. I got a bunch of looks, probably because I have somewhat long hair, I'm young, and my attire is generally "college student casual". Appearance plays a large role on how people think of you. Although I know that open carry is completely legal in VA (except for the no-brainer places), I still get kind of put off. Last year I almost got arrested for OC'ing with my 12 gauge in the fan (came back from the range; nowhere to park, so I had to park a few blocks down, and carry it to the apartment. Richmond city police officer happened to be walking by me and raised hell when he saw it), and I've been somewhat hesitant about it, even though I proudly OC'd the second I got the 345 . What do you think would be the worst case scenario for someone calling the police on me? Would they be able to search my car, make me show them my ID, or take the gun from me? I'm pretty sure thats illegal search and seizure, right? (The police officer who saw me walking with the shotgun pretty much grabbed it out of my hands; wouldn't that be illegal seizure as well?) |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd with my XD at the Italian Delight in Powhatan. No problems..... |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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OC'd at the wal-mart at Short Pump. At night, there is usually a Henrico LEO parked outside, or hanging around the entrance, and when I walked in, there were two of them. I nodded to them, they nodded back, and didn't say a word about the gun. When I was checking out, one of them came behind me to get in line and purchase something, and still didn't say anything. I'm guessing that Henrico has become savvy on OC. |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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OC'd at the Target and Kroger at short pump. No problems at Target. At Kroger, I went through self-checkout, and the monitoring attendant made a phone call to someone in the store after she saw the weapon. The only audible thing I could hear was "gun", so I presume she was talking about me. She then preceded to walk to the service desk, and I walked out after my transaction was completed. Nobody stopped me or anything and questioned me, so I didn't bother asking her if there was a problem. I don't think that a criminal would buy microwave dinners, then rob the place. Unless it was a hungry criminal...hahaha. People really need to relax. You try to do something for your safety and the safety of others, and they think that you're going to hold the place up. |
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Mike Super Moderator
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Keep it up folks - just going about your business peacefully and matter of factly is educating the world about open carry legality, and, teaching them that guns are tools that normal people do carry everyday and don't abuse. |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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I'd bet the lady at Kroger's asked what to do about someone with a gun and was told by some savvy manager type that OC was legal and nothing need be done. |
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ballester Regular Member
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You guys want to know something funny? a little off topic though, well the store i work at sells long guns... no handguns... and if you bring in your gun for having a scope mounted on it or other work, it has to be in a locked case or a have a manager carry it back to be worked on.... well i have not seen any problems with handguns... a lot of on and off duty cops go there and i know they have theres concealed. but have never had a problem with OC becasue i have never seen anyone do it. I my self am not allowed to have a weapon on the company property... i do anyways... thats why i will not say where i work. even offduty i cannot carry my handgun open or concealed jsut because i work there. that is the biggest load of crap i have heard in my life...needless to say they are not allowed to search my car or me for my concealed handgun. just thought you guys should know some of the weird crap thats around.....a place that sells guns will not let you carry one.....thanks for letting me vent |
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cs9c1 Regular Member
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ballester wrote: just thought you guys should know some of the weird crap thats around.....a place that sells guns will not let you carry one.....thanks for letting me vent I agree with you and feel your pain. I am not supposed to carry at work either, but unless I have to go to Ft Lee, I always do. I am not alone either due to the bad neighborhood I work in. |
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TEX1N Regular Member
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ballester wrote: even offduty i cannot carry my handgun open or concealed jsut because i work there. I don't think they can regulate your activity while you are not on the clock. I don't know very much about the laws in this area, but I really don't think they have a foot to stand on while you are not working. If anyone else knows more about the laws in this area, could you please chime in? |
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cs9c1 Regular Member
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TEX1N wrote: ballester wrote:even offduty i cannot carry my handgun open or concealed jsut because i work there. I was wondering the same thing, kind of smacks of the same BS going on with the Soldiers stationed in Alaska. |
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10-Oct-2006: OC'ed at Denny's on West Broad Street in Richmond. |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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Well I had an interesting experience at the best buy at short pump last night. I was browsing around for about 20 minutes, and picked up about 100-150 dollars in merchandise. Before I was going to check out, I stopped by one of those video game displays to check out a game. A few minutes later, the store manager poked me on the shoulder to get my attention, then he said "I know that you're not breaking the law or being hostile, but your gun is scaring off customers so I'm going to have to ask you to purchase your items and leave." I then told him that I would gladly leave, and that I would take my business to circuit city. I then went to circuit city, picked up the same items, and there were absolutely no problems. I think I saved a few dollars too... I just think that Short Pump is unfriendly to OC'ers in general. |
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hlh Regular Member
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mercutio545 wrote: Well I had an interesting experience at the best buy at short pump last night. I was browsing around for about 20 minutes, and picked up about 100-150 dollars in merchandise. Before I was going to check out, I stopped by one of those video game displays to check out a game. A few minutes later, the store manager poked me on the shoulder to get my attention, then he said "I know that you're not breaking the law or being hostile, but your gun is scaring off customers so I'm going to have to ask you to purchase your items and leave." I then told him that I would gladly leave, and that I would take my business to circuit city. I then went to circuit city, picked up the same items, and there were absolutely no problems. I think I saved a few dollars too... I wonder what is the Best Buy official policy? I also wonder if there really were customers "running for the door"? |
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possumboy Regular Member
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hlh wrote: I wonder what is the Best Buy official policy? I also wonder if there really were customers "running for the door"? I've had other problems at Best Buy. I have not had problem OC'ing, but have had a few while CC'ing. Those were related to them wanting to search my bag with while my gun was in my bag. I also always refuse to show ID when using my VISA or MasterCard. |
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Know what scares me the most most about this story.............that mercutio545 was open carrying and that the store manager had to poke him on the shoulder to get his attention. So the story has two two lessons in it.....don't shop at Best Buy in Short Pump.....and don't forget your responsibility for situational awareness when open carrying. |
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Mike Super Moderator
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I've OCed before in Best Buy near the Springfield Mall - no problems. Also, I eventually convinced them to stop the ID checks against signed credit cards - it took a while, but I finally threw enought protests at the management that they cracked down on the rogue teenage wonnabee ID police. What is the store number to the Best Buy in question in Short Pump? I am going to make a call. |
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SicSemperTyrannis Regular Member
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I've open carried at this Best Buy 5 or 6 times without a problem, all within the last 6 months. |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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Mike, the number/information for the Best Buy I was asked to leave is: W Broad VA (Store 423) 11200 W BROAD ST Glen Allen, VA 23060 Phone: 804-364-5900 I didn't get the managers name, but he was a heavyset caucasian with a mustache in his late 40's. Oh, and "bayboy42", the manager poked me without verbally getting my attention first. I'm not some super spy. He came up from behind me (last time I checked, the average human can only see 180 degrees or so, even with peripheral vision) and poked me. You should mind your own business and not try to make examples of people. Also, the retention on my holster is so high that if I felt someone going for my gun, they would get an elbow to the face before they could get a good grip on it to pull it out. |
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DoubleR Activist Member 
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Step back- Cool off - Take a breath. We have an issue that affects many more than just "us". |
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jimwyant Regular Member 
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Took the wife shopping on Friday. OC'ed at Dicks Sporting Goods across from VA Center Commons, Michaels and Shoe Carnival (same shopping center), and Dicks and Yankee Candle Factory at Stony Point Mall. Also OC'ed at Burlington Coat Factory on West Broad and Comcast's office on Staples Mill Rd. Got the usual "where do you work?" from the guy at the Stony Point Dicks, otherwise all uneventful. |
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Mike Super Moderator
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mercutio545 wrote: Mike, the number/information for the Best Buy I was asked to leave is: I just called - man said he was the main manager and indicated he had no gun ban in place and would look into it. |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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Well I'd be glad to OC there again, and if I get asked to leave, before I go I'll be sure to get the persons name for reference purposes. Should have gotten his name in the first place... |
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Mike Super Moderator
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Unless it's posted, just keep carrying like normal. |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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Just wondering, how long do you have to wait to go back into a place so it's not "tresspassing" anymore? I know that if an employee verbally asks you to leave, you have to leave, but when can you go back while OC'ing? Oh, and there aren't any posted signs either. Last edited on Wed Nov 15th, 2006 08:50 am by mercutio545 |
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hawgasm Regular Member
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mercutio545 wrote: Appearance plays a large role on how people think of you. tell me about it. i get 'the treatment' all the time because of the way im dressed. by the way, i ride a motorcycle |
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hlh Regular Member
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Yes, when OC'ing, appearance matters. Shoud it? No. But it does. When OC'ing I shave and dress neatly and never have any problems. If I don't care to shave or be neat, I CC. |
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possumboy Regular Member
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hawgasm wrote: mercutio545 wrote:Appearance plays a large role on how people think of you. The biggest problems I have had is when I am "dressed up". The biggest problem I have ever had I was in a 3 piece suit. I wear what I want. My defense of myself is based on personal protection, not how I dress. |
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Mike Super Moderator
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I OC in shorts, sandals, and T-Shirt often, but even without shaving, I never seem to cause panic... |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd in O'Charleys on Forest near Chippemham for lunch. Wore clean jeans, nice shirt, white New Balance sneakers, clean shaven, had a good lookin' woman (wife) with me, and my face was it's normally ugly self.  No problems. Last edited on Tue Nov 21st, 2006 01:57 pm by hlh |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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OC'd at guitar center on W. Broad by Parham, no problems. |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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Seriously, I don't know why I have the most run-ins with people on here. It has to be because I look so young. I'm getting my hair cut tomorrow anyways (probably a high and tight or something like that) so I wonder if that will make a difference. Anways, I OC'd at the toys r us off of parham rd to get some toys and games for the cousins, and after about 10 minutes of browsing, the manager asked me to leave. He said "I'm aware that it is legal to carry a sidearm in Virginia, but this is a toy store and you might scare away the kids here". Note that it was around 8:50 at night and I didn't see any kids in the store. He also said that he was an ex-police officer, like he was "siding with me" but for the "kids sake" I had to leave. I said I would gladly leave and take my business elsewhere. Before I left, I requested his business card and he gave it to me (it's in my car somewhere and I can't find it at the moment, but when I do I'll post it on here), then suddenly asked if there was anything in particular I was looking for, like he changed his mind or something. I told him that it was appreciated and I would go elsewhere, and I left. Every kid who's seen my sidearm has either asked me if I was a police officer, or stared in awe. I don't think that guns scar kids. The crap they show on TV and in movies is a bigger threat to kids than seeing guns. They use them in video games and play cops and robbers every day don't they? Might as well teach them the laws of the land while they're young. Heck, I remember shooting assault rifles with my dad and his special forces group when I was a kid. I wasn't scared. At the time, I thought it was the most amazing thing I've ever done. I think he was just trying to be a cop again and exercise some of the authority that he once had. |
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Mike Super Moderator
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Toys R us does this all the time to others too. |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at Arby's in Midlothian for lunch. No problems, although one customer watched me a lot. |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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Well I found the business card. If anybody wants to call the store in regards to their policy, the manager's contact information is: Alan Hines 804-740-6116 hinesa@toysrus.com |
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zoom6zoom Regular Member 
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For a company that's teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, ToysRus shouldn't be asking any of their customers to leave the store! Best Buy does not have any corporate policy regarding carry by customers, and local managers have no authority to enact such policies on their own. The corporate offices in Minnesota are posted and have metal detectors. The employee handbook does not specifically prohibit carrying, but weapons are listed as "inappropriate behavior" which "could" result in termination. |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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zoom6zoom wrote: For a company that's teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, ToysRus shouldn't be asking any of their customers to leave the store! Indeed. I spent somewhere between 100-150 dollars at Target and Circuit City the next day. Toys r us could have had that money right in their almost-obsolete (Why do you need Toys r us when Wal-mart has everything for a few cents cheaper? ) pocket if the manager wasn't so intent on exercising his "managerial power". |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at Wendy's in Midlothain, near the mall. Wendy's is giving out (2) $1 gift cards per purchase. I hate carrying the garbage around so I walked up to a nice senior citizen and asked her if she would like my $2 cards. As I walked up she noticed the 3913 on my belt and had a slight worried look, but when I offered her my discount cards she was all smiles and very thankful saying "I eat here all the time". Hopefully I convinced her that OC'ing individuals are "nice guys". Last edited on Mon Dec 11th, 2006 11:58 pm by hlh |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at the River City Diner for lunch. No problems again. The waitresses are getting used to seeing me OC there. |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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OC'd at Target on W. Broad. During checkout a woman in her late 20's or so asked me if I had a permit for my gun. I thought she was going to start ranting about how horrible it is, that I could openly carry, etc, etc. But instead, when I told her you didn't need a permit, she said "Wow, thats interesting. I had a concealed carry permit a while back but it expired, I didn't know you didn't need a permit to carry like that". Then she went on about how great of a state VA is for firearms, then told me how much of a pain in the ass it was to travel up to New York while carrying. I then referred her to this website, and told her to take a look at the travelers map . |
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zoom6zoom Regular Member
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OC'd at Chipotle on West Broad (Innsbruck) this afternoon. |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at the Italian Delight in Powhatan. No problems. |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at O'Charley's in Chesterfield on 360 at 288. No problems. Last edited on Mon Jan 1st, 2007 02:00 pm by hlh |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at the "Davis and Main" restaurant in Richmond last evening for dinner. Nice place. Fancy food. The place had low lighting and no one seemed to noticed my S&W. |
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SicSemperTyrannis Regular Member
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Open carried at Staples and Kroger and Hair Cuttery in Short Pump and Office Max and Borders in Glen Allen Dec. 31 with no problems. A very nice woman who works for the Federal Reserve who was in line in front of me while at Kroger asked me when I became a police officer. I explained I'm not and open carry is legal in Virginia. She thought permits and registration were required in Virginia to even posess a gun in your own home, much less anywhere else..... line was very long due to New Year's Eve, so we had a nice ten or more minute conversation about banking, the fed, guns, etc (we both work in the financial industry). |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at "Cheeburger Cheeburger" at lunch. The waitresses noticed and the manager dropped by to say hi, but that's it. Nothing was said about the S&W. Great burgers and shakes... |
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Riverdance Regular Member
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Zoom6Zoom said: "Best Buy does not have any corporate policy regarding carry by customers, and local managers have no authority to enact such policies on their own. " After being told to take my gun out of their store in Colonial Heights, VA, I wrote to Best Buy corporate HQ to complain, and received a letter in response that said that while they don't have a corporate policy on a gun ban, they DO let local managers make those decisions. |
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vt357 Regular Member 
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OC'd at Walmart in Midlothian. I think the only people that noticed were some old guys wearing camo jackets in the sporting goods section - and I don't think they minded. |
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hawgasm Regular Member
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1-15-07 i OCed @ the capital building while lobbying. no problems.  later that same day, i OCed @ the Home Depot on BelleCreek Road in Mechanicsville. no problems. |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd yesterday, for lunch, at the Midlothian River City Diner. They're getting very used to seeing me there. |
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VaXDshooter Regular Member
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Open Carried at Texas Roadhouse Va Center Commons over the weekend. NOT open carry friendly. I was first asked if I was an LEO, to which I responded no. When asked why I had a firearm, I advised the manager that I had it for self defense. Their answer was to tell me that I had to secure my firearm in the vehicle, that "They didn't wan't anything they couldn't handle." So, my family and I left. I did contact their corporate office who did verify it is their policy to ban firearms in their locations. |
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"They didn't wan't anything they couldn't handle." I wonder what the heck that is supposed to mean. |
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vt357 Regular Member
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VaXDshooter wrote: I did contact their corporate office who did verify it is their policy to ban firearms in their locations. I carried my full sized revolver at the Texas Roadhouse in Christiansburg last year. Noone said anything or asked me to take it to the car. I did have to wait nearly an hour to get a table because I was in a large party. We all waited outside, and I think someone may have called the cops on me because an officer rolled by. He just glanced in my direction, realized I was just a normal citizen, and moved on. |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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Texas Roadhouse, huh? I guess the corporate policy didn't filter down to the York County place, because we had our December OC get together there, with about a dozen of us carrying. Some of the waitstaff commented about OC to us, but we didn't get any flack from the management. I got the impression from the manager who helped arrange the reservations that we were welcome to come back. I guess a lot of this stuff just depends on the attitude of the individual manager. |
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kimbercarrier Activist Member 
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I was also at the meeting with Dutchuncle but, we left later and ran into the kitchen manager who saw we were carrying and it didn't bother him .He said he didn't mind and welcomed us to return anytime. |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at Cheeburger, Cheeburger, in Midlothian. Manager came by the table to say hi, like last time, but no problems. He just asked about the food, and didn't ask any other tables. I'll get Cheeburger trained yet. |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at the Wendy's on Midlothian turnpike yesterday for lunch. No problems. |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at Wendy's on Midlothian turnpike, again, and also at the Red Lobster in Chesterfield on 360. No problems. |
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hlh Regular Member
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The Richmond OC dinner, last Tuesday, 8+ of us OC'd at TGI Friday's at Chersterfield on 360. They asked us to leave toward the end of the meal. I won't be patronizing this location in the future, but I don't think this is consistant at all TGIF's, and I sure hope not, because I like to eat there. OC'd today again at "Cheeburger Cheeburger" on 60 in Midlothian. They're getting used to seeing me there armed. No problems. OC'd at Great Clips today on 147 in Midlothian. The place was crowded and no one said a thing. |
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hlh Regular Member
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Am I the only one that OC's around Richmond?  |
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DeadCenter Regular Member 
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hlh wrote: Am I the only one that OC's around Richmond? I'm starting to think I am the only one that open carries around culpeper. What's up with all the restaurant troubles lately? DC |
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sitedzn Regular Member 
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hlh, you mean the cheeseburger cheeseburger @ 60 and courthouse? let me know if you're going there for lunch as i work just down the road. i'd be glad to join you! |
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hlh Regular Member
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sitedzn wrote: hlh, Yes, that's the one. I usually meet my wife there for lunch occasionally, but we would enjoy the company. We'll do it sometime. Last edited on Fri Feb 23rd, 2007 11:45 pm by hlh |
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SicSemperTyrannis Regular Member
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hlh - I open carry in the Richmond area quite a bit. Most often, it is in the Short Pump area, but also Powhatan and the Midlothian area on occasion. I don't post each time (because there are hundreds), but I have open carried in banks, Wal-Marts, Shell stations, etc. Only once have I ever had a problem, but several times I've received compliments. 99% of the time, however, either no one notices or cares. |
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sitedzn Regular Member
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hlh wrote: sitedzn wrote:hlh, i wouldn't want to intrude on a nice lunch with the wife. i rarely get the opportunity to do that myself - especially with 2 little ones. btw, it was great meeting the 2 of you on Tuesday. let me know if you'd ever want to run out to black creek. i'm taking my son out tomorrow to watch the 3-gun match, and of course lay down a hundred rounds or so. |
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hlh Regular Member
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SicSemperTyrannis wrote: hlh - I open carry in the Richmond area quite a bit. Most often, it is in the Short Pump area, but also Powhatan and the Midlothian area on occasion. I don't post each time (because there are hundreds), but I have open carried in banks, Wal-Marts, Shell stations, etc. Only once have I ever had a problem, but several times I've received compliments. 99% of the time, however, either no one notices or cares. Good point. Some of us OC so much it's too much work to add it all to the thread. I understand. |
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hlh Regular Member
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sitedzn wrote: hlh wrote:sitedzn wrote:hlh, I was planning on being at Black Creek at 1 pm for the tour and apply for membership. What time is the 3-gun competition? |
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sitedzn Regular Member
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i think it starts in the morning, 9:30 or so, but runs for most of the day. i'll probably head out from here around 11 or so. if you see my truck, you might see me down on the 10-15 yrd range. oh, and if they do say anything about needing to be recommended by a member, have them come get me, i'd be happy to. mind you that this wasn't asked of me, but who knows - i've only been a member for about a month. i don't think they'll let you shoot tomorrow, unless you pay as a guest with me (or another member). and you have to be an NRA member to join. that was one thing that i needed to do, and i believe they can do the NRA membership there also. i'm not sure if i'm scaring you off with all my rambling, i hope not. i think it would be fun to possibly get some of the folks from our dinner to participate in the idpa that's done there (i heard some interest when i mentioned it). |
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hlh Regular Member
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Glad you mentioned the NRA membership, I'll bring my card. I'll try to be there towards noon and watch what's going on for a bit. I'd enjoy some competition sometime. Sounds like fun. |
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rchjr Regular Member
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I OC mostly southside and chester area. Couldn't make it to the dinner, my three year old was under the weather. Hopefully next time. I don't post much. I rarely have anyone notice my carrying, and I carry all the time. I usually just post problems. |
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jimwyant Regular Member
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OC'ed at Kroger (Laburnum Avenue and Williamsburg Road) on Sunday. Nobody seemed to notice except for the cashier who asked if I was an undercover LEO. She asked in a manner that was more "small talk" than curiosity, so I simply replied in the negative and said no more. She didn't pursue the subject, and did not show any concern as she continued to ring up our groceries. |
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72Malibu Regular Member
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DeadCenter wrote: I'm starting to think I am the only one that open carries around culpeper. I've OC'd in Culpeper a couple of times, but I don't get up that way much. I don't OC consistently though. |
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jimwyant Regular Member
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I don't go to many different places, but to keep this thread up to date, during the last week I OC'ed at the following locations:
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hlh Regular Member
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Thanks Jim for reminding me: several of us OC's at Tony's Italian Restaurant last Tuesday. The employees watched us while we gathered in the parking lot but there were no issues once inside. Good food and service. |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd again at "Cheeburger Cheeburger" in Midlothian. No problems, but my wife noticed a couple of ladies close by watching me alot. |
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jimwyant Regular Member
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OC'ed at Mexico near the airport again (see restaurant thread for the details - no issues, just an interesting interaction) and at the Tan-A Chinese grocery on Broad Street. I was a little concerned about going in there, since many immigrants come here from anti-gun areas like PRNY and PRCA, and who knows what experiences they bring from their former countries. It turns out that my concers were unfounded, because nobody - customers or workers - paid any attention to my wife and I as we spent 30 minutes or so browsing the aisles. |
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ParaWarthog Regular Member
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Okay, I have an off topic question regarding Va. I didn't want to start a new thread or post in a "hot topic" thread, but I have a question I've wanted to ask. As I was flying down I65 (in Alabama) a few days ago, my radar detector informed me that there was a cop up ahead, and I slowed down from a fast pace and saved myself a $300 dollar ticket. In Virginia, it seems that the citizens and legislators have done a pretty good job of keeping the government out of citizen's affairs in a lot of ways (namely open carry and FULL state preemption). However, Virginia is the only state in the country that has a ban on radar detectors. I figure you open carry guys might have some insight on this topic, as I'm sure you'd like to have the opportunity to know if there is a mobile tax collection unit on your roads waiting to nail you. And if this off topic question is inappropriate based on the purpose of the forum, please disregard. Thanks. |
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hlh Regular Member
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ParaWarthog wrote: Okay, I have an off topic question regarding Va. I didn't want to start a new thread or post in a "hot topic" thread, but I have a question I've wanted to ask. As I was flying down I65 (in Alabama) a few days ago, my radar detector informed me that there was a cop up ahead, and I slowed down from a fast pace and saved myself a $300 dollar ticket. Start a new thread. I have some comments about this. Last edited on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 11:27 pm by hlh |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at Lowe's and Wendy's in Midlothian. No problems. Last edited on Fri Mar 30th, 2007 12:35 pm by hlh |
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sitedzn Regular Member
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oc'd at Green Top 4/3. i know i know, it is a gun shop. no probs - even was test fitting some holsters for my new PT1911 (no round chambered for this). |
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vt357 Regular Member
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OC'ed at Lowes on Hull St. No problems. |
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jimwyant Regular Member
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OC'ed at Tan-A Supermarket on Broad Street, Kroger at Williamsburg Road & Laburnum Avenue, and Mexico Restaurant on Williamsburg Road - all places I had OC'ed in the past, and all without incident once again. |
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swatpro911 Regular Member
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i just wanted to know if Ak47 or AR 15 still legal for citizen to own and have it in their vehicle with CHP in Virginia? help me out swat |
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nakedshoplifter Regular Member 
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CHP = Concealed HANDGUN Permit May I suggest a search of the VA code? § 15.2-915.2. Regulation of transportation of a loaded rifle or shotgun. The governing body of any county or city may by ordinance make it unlawful for any person to transport, possess or carry a loaded shotgun or loaded rifle in any vehicle on any public street, road, or highway within such locality. Any violation of such ordinance shall be punishable by a fine of not more than $100. Game wardens, sheriffs and all other law-enforcement officers shall enforce the provisions of this section. No ordinance adopted pursuant to this section shall be enforceable unless the governing body adopting such ordinance so notifies the Director of the Department of Game and Inland Fisheries by registered mail prior to May 1 of the year in which such ordinance is to take effect. The provisions of this section shall not apply to duly authorized law-enforcement officers or military personnel in the performance of their lawful duties, nor to any person who reasonably believes that a loaded rifle or shotgun is necessary for his personal safety in the course of his employment or business. This applies to a LOADED rifle. If your rifle is UNLOADED, cased, and out in the open (kinda hard to conceal anyways) you should be OK. Last edited on Thu Apr 5th, 2007 02:15 am by nakedshoplifter |
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jimwyant Regular Member
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swatpro911 wrote: i just wanted to know if Ak47 or AR 15 still legal for citizen to own and have it in their vehicle with CHP in Virginia? help me out Uh, you do know that the title of this thread is "Open Carry - Richmond area", right? For unrelated questions, starting a new thread would probably be a good idea. |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at Wendy's, Lowe's, and Home Depot in Midlothian. No problems. Thanks Jim! Last edited on Fri Apr 6th, 2007 10:39 am by hlh |
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madrevar Regular Member
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nor to any person who reasonably believes that a loaded rifle or shotgun is necessary for his personal safety in the course of his employment or business. Define necessary....lol |
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SicSemperTyrannis Regular Member
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Open carried at the Best Buy in Short Pump - the one someone was kicked out of several months ago. Just did this an hour ago. I have open carried there before without incident. Same thing this time. Because of my work, I usually am at least in a tie (and usually a suit), but I was in blue jeans and a flannel shirt and sneakers. Several employees noticed, all smiled and said nothing. Good report! I then went to the Short Pump Wal-Mart. Something big was going on, multiple police cars everywhere, police out front, police behind the Wal-Mart parked, police in the parking aisels. I saw four cars and five officers. Looks like maybe a women's license plate was stolen, car broken in to maybe? Anyway, I walked by multiple police officers and cruisers, none said a word, if they noticed. I bought a shredder, got back to my car, then realized I forgot to buy 3 gift cards. Had to re-park and go back inside. Passed all those cops again, not a word. It is slightly possible none noticed, but I was carrying a Sig . 40 against a red flannel shirt and blue jeans, not my little Magnum . 357 against a black suit. Regardless, none said a word. At least one of them noticed, I'd think. I walked ten feet from him, walking towards him. This is my second time in a row with Henrico officers with no one saying a word, I believe the word is out. Henrico has VERY responsible police leadership, if Col. Stanleys positive response to my unfortunately negative open carrying experience with a Henrico officer last year is any indication. I bet he made sure they all know. I'd tentatively say "open carry in Henrico without any fear of the police now"! A middle aged black man following behind me in the parking lot did ask "son, what's that?" I pointed to the gun and said "this?". He said "yes". I said "a Sig .40". He said "why don't you just get your concealed license, it's so easy in Virginia. I got mine". I told him I do have a concealed permit but you can open carry almost anywhere in Virginia without one. He said "Oh, I know that. I just didn't know if you knew you could get one easily". I smiled and said "thanks", and he smiled and got in his car. It is exceptionally rare that I get any comments at all about open carrying in the Richmond area, so this was an unusual (but positive) interaction. |
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SicSemperTyrannis wrote: Open carried at the Best Buy in Short Pump - the one someone was kicked out of several months ago. Yeah, that was me. I've carried in there numerous times since then, and I've had no other problems. I think the only reason why the manager gave me crap was because it was really crowded because of holiday shopping, and he said a lot of people were complaining. I think it was because they saw a YPWAG (young person with a gun ). |
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vt357 Regular Member
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OC'ed at the Wallmart on Hull St. No problems. But the place was packed and they didn't have enought registers open! |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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I rarely get any complaints. Maybe 'cause I'm a SCWAG (Seasoned Citizen With A Gun)! |
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hlh Regular Member
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Dutch Uncle wrote: I rarely get any complaints. Maybe 'cause I'm a SCWAG (Seasoned Citizen With A Gun)! It shouldn't, but appearance matters. |
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vt357 Regular Member
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OC'ed at Pleasant's Hardware and Ukrops in Oxbridge square and at the Home Depot on Hull St. I got one look from a man in Ukrops but no other problems - received great service at both Pleasant's and HD. I was wearing my VT sweatshirt and had my class ring on. Also OC'ed at Bob Moate's Sport Shop and talked about the shooting for a couple minutes while dropping off a gun for some work. |
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hlh Regular Member
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vt357 wrote: OC'ed at Pleasant's Hardware and Ukrops in Oxbridge square and at the Home Depot on Hull St. I got one look from a man in Ukrops but no other problems - received great service at both Pleasant's and HD. I was wearing my VT sweatshirt and had my class ring on. Also OC'ed at Bob Moate's Sport Shop and talked about the shooting for a couple minutes while dropping off a gun for some work. OC and a VT shirt! Great!! |
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sitedzn Regular Member
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vt357 wrote: OC'ed at Pleasant's Hardware and Ukrops in Oxbridge square and at the Home Depot on Hull St. I got one look from a man in Ukrops but no other problems - received great service at both Pleasant's and HD. I was wearing my VT sweatshirt and had my class ring on. Also OC'ed at Bob Moate's Sport Shop and talked about the shooting for a couple minutes while dropping off a gun for some work. next time you're in Pleasant's there in Oxbridge, tell William that Lucas says hi. i've been a little hesitant to OC in places i know members of my church work. |
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oc'd @ Bob Moats yesterday. was looking for a cricket for my son (turns 5 today). had a good conversation about our experiences with rifles growing up. place was actually a little busy for 3:45 - basically had to turn sideways to pass by people. several moms with kids there and i think nearly every one of them saw my M&P (hard to miss black gun, black holster, blue jeans and white shirt). another non-event. last time i oc'd @ Bob's i got some funny looks from the guys there, but that's probably because i came in and went straight over to the cleaning & reloading supplies and didn't talk to anyone at all. |
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sitedzn wrote: oc'd @ Bob Moats yesterday. was looking for a cricket for my son (turns 5 today). had a good conversation about our experiences with rifles growing up. place was actually a little busy for 3:45 - basically had to turn sideways to pass by people. several moms with kids there and i think nearly every one of them saw my M&P (hard to miss black gun, black holster, blue jeans and white shirt). another non-event. last time i oc'd @ Bob's i got some funny looks from the guys there, but that's probably because i came in and went straight over to the cleaning & reloading supplies and didn't talk to anyone at all. Happy birthday to your son! I have OC'd in Bob's several times without issue. The guys who work there are very nice and helpful. I had a good OC experience yesterday. My wife and I went shopping at Home Depot on Hull St. As we were walking through the front door, a gentleman walked in behind us and commented on my sidearm. Something to the effect of that's awesome. He asked me if I was a cop. I said I was just a citizen and explained some of the laws to him. We stood at the front of the store talking for about 5 minutes or so. He was a really nice guy. I then proceeded to shop at HD for about 30 minutes before heading over to the Wal-mart to pick up a few things. Good times OC'ing in Chesterfield. |
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Hey Lucas, I've also OC'd there with no problems. I OC'd yesterday, at lunch, at the Casa Grande resurant on Midlothian turnpike. No problems. Afterwards OC'd at Sam's Club on Midlothian with no problems. |
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I OC everywhere I go on Saturdays and Sundays in the greater Richmond area and have never been asked to leave nor had an unpleasant confrontation. Lucky - perhaps. Will it happen one day - probably. It is my belief that the impression I project with my dress, demeanor and yes, even my age are factors in the acceptance I am afforded. During the week, I carry a model 60 S&W mexican style with a Bianci Hip-Grip. Is that OC or CC? Well, one time in a 7-11 on W. Broad St two LEOs were talking and took notice of me. The officer in plain clothes identified himself and asked me if I had a permit for that - pointing at my weapon. I replied, "Why? You can see it." He indicated that some people might not know what it was and that therefor I needed a permit. Black grips on a stainless weapon with half of it showing against pale blue jeans and a white shirt are pretty hard to miss I replied. The uniformed officer laughed and received a scowl from the other. "Do you have identification," I was asked. To which I replied, "Sure do. pause - pause - pause Well have a nice day." A silent glare that would have frosted glass was the only reaction I got. I waited a few seconds before departing the store and no further incident occurred. Could they (the LEOs) have demanded a permit etc. maintaining that my method of carry constituted CC. Probably but that did not occur and I do have a CHP. I sincerely hope that they did have a nice day - they work hard for their money. Yata hey Last edited on Fri Dec 28th, 2007 10:37 pm by Grapeshot |
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Great stories from right near where I work! Chesterfield town center,that is. I can't wait to open carry |
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vt357 Regular Member
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Let's ressurect an old thread here. OC'ed at Circuity City near Chesterfield Town Center on Dec 21. I did an online order with in store pickup so I had to stand in line for about 20 minutes (really busy for Christmas). While waiting a couple got in line behind me. The wife said "we better be nice, he's carrying." We went on to have a good 5 minute conversation on holsters and firearm selection. Turns out the husband had a carry permit. It's always nice to have a good encounter. |
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OC'ed at ukrops and havana coection in short pump on 12-22 no problem. Couple of guys at havana coection asked a few questions about carrying. Last edited on Fri Dec 28th, 2007 03:20 pm by bruins499 |
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mercutio545 wrote......... Also, I heard that shotguns and rifles couldn't be loaded while you were open carrying them. But I suppose I'm mistaken? Isn't it more than 7 shells or something? ........ Any weapon that can be legally "carried" may be carried loaded by a citizen not restricted by law for cause. § 18.2-287.4. Carrying loaded firearms in public areas prohibited; penalty. It shall be unlawful for any person to carry a loaded (a) semi-automatic center-fire rifle or pistol that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material and is equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine that will hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition or designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or equipped with a folding stock or (b) shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered on or about his person on any public street, road, alley, sidewalk, public right-of-way, or in any public park or any other place of whatever nature that is open to the public in the Cities of Alexandria, Chesapeake, Fairfax, Falls Church, Newport News, Norfolk, Richmond, or Virginia Beach or in the Counties of Arlington, Fairfax, Henrico, Loudoun, or Prince William. The provisions of this section shall not apply to law-enforcement officers, licensed security guards, military personnel in the performance of their lawful duties, or any person having a valid concealed handgun permit or to any person actually engaged in lawful hunting or lawful recreational shooting activities at an established shooting range or shooting contest. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. The exemptions set forth in § 18.2-308 shall apply, mutatis mutandis, to the provisions of this section. (1991, c. 570; 1992, c. 790; 2003, c. 976; 2004, c. 995; 2005, c. 160; 2007, c. 813.) Hope this helps. Yata hey |
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A funny thing happened on my way to the forum today. I had just finished a nice breakfast in one of my favorite places - where I know all of the servers - and had just exited the establishment. A gentleman in his late fifties or early sixties came out just behind me. Called out pleasantly to stop me, introduced himself and offered his hand to me. By certain responses, we recognized each other as members of the same fraternal organization. He said, "I noticed your .45 and wanted to talk to you about it." I replied and laughed, "Yes it's kind of hard to miss isn't it." His response was, " I was an instructor for years (turns out he was trying to make himself more creditable). The way your carrying that with the hammer back is very dangerous!" "Sir," said I, you are misinformed. I too have been an instructor, for both the State and NRA. A 1911 has two mechanical safeties: the primary thumb safety and a grip safety. My weapon is drop proof. To cause it to fire would require several specific acts on my part. It is in fact designed to carry in this manner and I would not carry it any other way." Then I could not resist adding a (mis)quote from Col. Cooper, " Actually you are right. It is decidedly dangerous to those that wish to bring violence on me or mine. It is my wish that they receive more violence than they ever expected." He looked at me perplexed for a second, then smiled as if he understood me and bade me a good day. The sad thing was that an "instructor" should think that a 1911 should not be carried cocked & locked. I am aware that there are those in the military and elsewhere that do not subscribe to condition one but I still think it is sad/poor instruction. Yata hey |
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I seem to recall someone on this forum getting a 1911 a few months ago. He wasn't too sure about carried cocked & locked just yet. He even suggested carrying in Con 2 until he was more comfortable with it. Thankfully, a little research, some advice from other people here, and some reasoning showed him the light. |
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Went to O'Charly's on West Broad St. for an New Years dinner with a group we put together - about 16 in total. My son and I were OCing - had a chance to answer questions about it with one couple (not in our group) and Diane chimed in explaining the Va. requirement to OC in places that serve alcohol. Diane even went so far as to ask them how they felt about seeing someone carrying - were they startled. They were not they said, only curious. - quite pleasant conversation. I spent a part of the evening walking around, talking and carrying my 18 mo. old grandson to give his parents a break. There were very confused looks from the sheeple though - they couldn't come to any conclusion about the scene in front of them - man with gun (bad) and man with laughing 18 mo (good) g/b,g/b,g/b in the end a child's trust seemed to win the debate. All in all it was a very nice evening. I'm proud of Diane too - she has come a long way since "Why do you carry that?" Now if I can just get her to graduate to something beginning with a 4. She just reminded me that she likes her 9 - okay, that's good enough for me. Yata hey Attached Image (viewed 477 times): Last edited on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 10:02 pm by Grapeshot |
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Nice to see some folks OC'ing in the Short Pump area. OC'ed in Chipotle on West Broad in the Short Pump Towne Center land area... Got a few looks from the yuppies, and noticed a few of the mothers scoop up their children, but other than that no problems. |
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Left my usual haunting grounds and OCed at the Applebee's on Mechanicsville Turnpike. Nothing was said, no dirty looks, and not even a second glance, as far as I could tell. |
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armedinrichmond wrote: Left my usual haunting grounds and OCed at the Applebee's on Mechanicsville Turnpike. Nothing was said, no dirty looks, and not even a second glance, as far as I could tell. Is this the one @ 360 & Bell Creek ? |
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Firefighter194 wrote: armedinrichmond wrote:Left my usual haunting grounds and OCed at the Applebee's on Mechanicsville Turnpike. Nothing was said, no dirty looks, and not even a second glance, as far as I could tell. No problems Christmas Eve at Outback Steak House on 360 across from Applebees in Mechanicsville. |
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crossfireltd wrote: Firefighter194 wrote:armedinrichmond wrote:Left my usual haunting grounds and OCed at the Applebee's on Mechanicsville Turnpike. Nothing was said, no dirty looks, and not even a second glance, as far as I could tell. To combine your post with mine OC'ed at the Applebee's near VCC a few weeks ago OC'ed at the Outback on Broad St. last night. |
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Firefighter194 Regular Member
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Well my first open carry was a succses!! No problems or "run in's" at all.  OC'ed - 7-11 @ 360 and Byron OC'ed- Subway @ 360 and Harvie Oh, and I actually had the chance to educate someone on the 2nd Admendment while in line at the 7-11.... Glad my first OC went off without a hitch... Boy was I nervous to walk into a store I go to on a daily basis carrying!!! Last edited on Thu Jan 24th, 2008 08:14 pm by Firefighter194 |
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Firefighter194 wrote: Well my first open carry was a succses!! No problems or "run in's" at all. FF194 -- Congrats -- I know the feeling(s). All of them. DC |
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Firefighter194 wrote: Oh, and I actually had the chance to educate someone on the 2nd Admendment while in line at the 7-11.... Glad my first OC went off without a hitch... Boy was I nervous to walk into a store I go to on a daily basis carrying!!! It gets easier with time and repeat performances - but never lose your situational awareness.  Welcome to our world. Yata hey |
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OC at Hudgins nursery (plants) on Hull St. Not even a  from the soccer moms. Stopped by the JiffyLube on Hull across from Clover Hill and got the from the "manager" guy when I got out of my car. When paying for the service I got the "You a Marshall or something?" No. I said as I was writing my check. "You're just a guy that likes guns huh?" Mr. Manager said. "No. I'm just a guy that looks out for his personal safety." |
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OC - Ukrop's at Chesterfield Meadows this am. Ate breakfast, did my shoppin', did a yard sale or two, and back home. |
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doug23838 wrote: OC at Hudgins nursery (plants) on Hull St. Not even a Oh man, I cant believe that you used Jiffy Lube! They destroyed a car of mine (left the oil pan nut off, engine seized). They refused to acknowledge/pay for damages until my lawyer got involved. They blew up my uncle's new Kia engine too and balked at payment. Thieves I say! |
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Firefighter194 Regular Member
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ProShooter wrote: doug23838 wrote:OC at Hudgins nursery (plants) on Hull St. Not even a This Jiffy Lube that siezed up your engine, didnt so happen to be the one of 360 in Mechanicsville was it? Went there a year or so ago for a report of a working fire, ended up being a oil pan got blown off and filled the whole place with smoke. Sounds like Jiffy Lube has some great mechanics.... LOL  Last edited on Sun Jun 1st, 2008 01:47 am by Firefighter194 |
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Firefighter194 wrote: ProShooter wrote:doug23838 wrote:OC at Hudgins nursery (plants) on Hull St. Not even a Nope, mine was in Henrico. They are the most incompetant fools out there. |
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I left my gun in the car to purchase coins at Paul Sims, Inc off Patterson Avenue (in Henrico, Virginia). This felt odd, since I always open carry in banks (and welcome people doing the same at the bank where I am the Branch Manager). However, Paul Sims has a serious looking (and seriously armed) guard posted at the door, and they are one of the largest sellers of coin gold in the United States. You have to be buzzed in, etc. I purchase there about every two months. Anyone have any clue as to how Mr. Sims feels about lawfully openly carried firearms? |
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SicSemperTyrannis wrote: I left my gun in the car to purchase coins at Paul Sims, Inc off Patterson Avenue (in Henrico, Virginia). This felt odd, since I always open carry in banks (and welcome people doing the same at the bank where I am the Branch Manager). However, Paul Sims has a serious looking (and seriously armed) guard posted at the door, and they are one of the largest sellers of coin gold in the United States. You have to be buzzed in, etc. I purchase there about every two months. Anyone have any clue as to how Mr. Sims feels about lawfully openly carried firearms? No "No Guns" sign I take it. Open the conversation with how intelligent that he (Mr. Sims) is to take personal responsibility and how you feel the same way. Natural progression and exchange of ideas should clear the air on this one. Yata hey |
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vt357 Regular Member
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More of the usual. OC'ed at Home Depot and Petsmart on 360 without issue. My wife and I went to the O'Charlie's in the same shopping center that night for dinner. I've OC'ed there probably about 5 or 6 times now. But this time we were seated in a different section than we had sat in before. I noticed that they had a mural painted on one of the walls with different icons and landmarks from the Richmond area. Part of the mural had a portrait of Patrick Henry with the words "Give me libery or give me death" next to him. I just thought it was pretty cool to be OC'ing while sitting right next to that - should have gotten a picture. |
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Green Top today. Yeah, I know, it's a gun store. But they used to be posted. Didn't get anything for myself, but helped a kid pick out his first non-22 rifle, a milsurp Nagant M44 ( he was trying to decide between these and the 91/30's). Found a nice one for him, showed him what some of the armory marking meant. |
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hlh Regular Member
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zoom6zoom wrote: Green Top today. Yeah, I know, it's a gun store. But they used to be posted. Hey Zoom! Some time ago they dropped the signs. I've OC'd and CC'd since without problems. Good bunch of helpful guys overall. |
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OC'd at JC Penny in Regency Square Mall for about an hour + today, no problems, looks, complaints, etc |
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hlh Regular Member
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ProShooter wrote: OC'd at JC Penny in Regency Square Mall for about an hour + today, no problems, looks, complaints, etc Great! But did they serve okra? This thread is about dinner! |
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hlh wrote: ProShooter wrote:OC'd at JC Penny in Regency Square Mall for about an hour + today, no problems, looks, complaints, etc umm, really? |
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ProShooter wrote: hlh wrote:ProShooter wrote:OC'd at JC Penny in Regency Square Mall for about an hour + today, no problems, looks, complaints, etc Just the thought of ockra makes hlh go blurry eyed and disorients him - he goes from thread to thread, randomly posting. The worst of it is that he doesn't even know it. Sssssh, don't tell him - it'd be a lot like waking a sleepwalker on his way to the bathroom. Oh ya, I OCd at the City Diner across from DMV on W. Broad St at lunch time. Yata hey Last edited on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 11:20 pm by Grapeshot |
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Grapeshot wrote: ProShooter wrote:hlh wrote:ProShooter wrote:OC'd at JC Penny in Regency Square Mall for about an hour + today, no problems, looks, complaints, etc Yep! I got the two threads, Richmond OC dinner and Richmond OCing, mixed up. Guess I've been hanging around Grapeshot too much. Next thing you know, I'll be carrying an empty holster... I'm gonna have to stop trying to do more than one simple thing at a time... Last edited on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 11:47 pm by hlh |
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hlh wrote: Yep! I got the two threads, Richmond OC dinner and Richmond OCing, mixed up. Guess I've been hanging around Grapeshot too much. Next thing you know, I'll be carrying an empty holster... Carrying a bobbed hammer mod. 60 S&W in a 1911 holster, is NOT carrying an empty holster! You just had to look closely to see it. Shesh! Yata hey |
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Grapeshot wrote: hlh wrote:Yep! I got the two threads, Richmond OC dinner and Richmond OCing, mixed up. Guess I've been hanging around Grapeshot too much. Next thing you know, I'll be carrying an empty holster... Good point, and always a good reason have a backup! |
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Good afternoon, all! New to the forum and am extremely glad to have found it. I have my CCW permit, but have never been able to get a straight answer out of the LEO's I've queried on my responsibility to maintain concealment if that is my preferred carry. (In other words, if I have the gun in the Crossbreed Supertuck IWB holster, and the shirt rides up far enough to expose it, am I in trouble?!!) Since I now know most of you have been OC'ing without incident, I will feel much more comfortable about doing so. Then I don't have to worry about the other issue. I generally Concealed Carry anywhere I don't have to pass through a metal detector, but will gladly join the ranks of OC and I will let you know my experiences as they occur! |
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hlh Regular Member
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With a CCW permit and OC being legal in VA you have everthing covered in areas that are legal to carry. |
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ThunderRanch wrote: Good afternoon, all! If that were to occur, you would NOT have broken any laws and would be completely legal (unless of course you were somewhere that you cannot open carry such as a state park). The worst that could happen would be: IF someone happened to see it, And IF they called the police, And IF the 911 operator was uniformed of the law, And IF the officer was actually able to locate you, Then he would mostly likely ask to see your ID and your permit. And since you are CC'ing, you would be required to show them - you wouldn't be in trouble for it. IF he hassled you over it just say that you did nothing illegal and ask if you are free to go. But that's a lot of IF's that would need to happen first. |
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ThunderRanch wrote: Good afternoon, all! Welcome ThunderRanch! Please let me know if I can assist you with any concealed carry training needs. Jim http://www.proactiveshooters.com |
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Virginia does not have a law requiring that a concealled handgun must remain concealled. You simply move to OC (open carry) if the wind blows your jacket open or whatever. I'm told that in Florida even printing is illegal - they may not OC there. BTW - Why not take the time to attend our open carry dinner on June 17th and meet some like minded, everyday folks? It's in Chesterfield this time -see link following. http://tinyurl.com/5zzfuu Yata hey Last edited on Thu Jun 12th, 2008 11:52 pm by Grapeshot |
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CHP? What's that? I don't need no stinkin' CHP! |
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UNICORN SIGHTING Today (Saturday) around 2:30 at the The Home Depot in Hanover (near Green Top). Middle aged white male, with a female. Male was wearing jeans with some sort of pistol on his right side and a cell phone on the left. |
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OK....so here's the first of the OC experiences..... These all took place on Saturday.... I have been OC'ing around my house for a long while, but as I was loading the golf clubs up Saturday morning, my next door neighbor asked "Why are you always carrying "that gun"? I gave the explanation that OC is legal in VAand that it is another means of being prepared, much like having a smoke detector or wearing a seatbelt. He didn't have a problem with it, and even said he used to carry a shotgun in a rack in Louisiana...he was just curious. Next came the fuel stop at the Wawa at Hull and Bailey Bridge Rd. I got the gas in the truck and then went inside to get cash for the golf outing. Didn't see any unusual attention paid to the fact that I was Oc'ing. Finally, at the golf outing at Sycamore Creek (nice golf course if you play!) I haven't found a comfortable holster to have on while swinging a golf club, so I tucked the gun into a pocket of my golf bag, but got it back out once I finished the round and ate dinner and waited for the prizes. (It was a charity captain's choice tournement) One of the golfers asked "Do you find a lot of use for that firearm on a golf course?" Unfortunately, I think my answer could have been better, but I said "If you play golf the way I do, and spend a lot of time in the woods with the animals you do!" I did, at that point, state that I didn't carry it on my person while playing golf, but that otherwise I always carried it. I would have continued the conversation, but his attention was captured by one of the lovely young ladies who happened to be present. |
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"Do you find a lot of use for that firearm on the golf course?" "Of course not! Did you find any use for your seatbelt on the drive over here?" |
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Today I OC'd at: Virginia Crossings Resort, Yellow Tavern Wawa on West Broad Fletchers Tire and Auto, West Broad Enterprise rent a car, West Broad. The Enterprise guys said that I was the 4th OC'er they've seen in 6 months... |
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After the OC dinner tonight, I OC'd at Kroger on East Ridge Rd. I was in there for about 20 minutes and no one said a word. |
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Just OC'd again at O'Charley's and Staples - not an issue |
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OC'd today at Wawa on Broad/Parham, no issues. |
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OCd at Lowes - W. Broad St near the Fan, the City Diner for lunch, Firestone Tire on Hopkins Rd., Wal-Mart at Shelia Dr - all without incident. BUT - at Wal-Mart on Hull St. just past Genito Rd, while waiting to have tires put on my truck, I had my first negative reaction in a very long time. I had wandered over to the Sporting Goods Dept. to make an ammunition purchase. Two young ladies were working the counter/register. I pointed out a box of 100 Winchester white box 9mm in response to the "How may I help you?" from the first lady (trainee as it turned out). The second lady spoke sharply, "What is that?" while pointing at my sidearm. I told her it was a Smith & Wesson model 60 an d smiled nicely. She said that she could not sell me ammunition while I had that - note big bug eyed expression. Yes you can, I said - call your store manager please. As she did not move or respond, I repeated my request adding "Now, please" Also I explained corporate policy as I understood it (re Wal-Mart) and OC legality in Va. While the store manager never made a personal appearance, he/she did staighten out the reluctant sales person and my purchase was rung up without further conversation from the now scowling clerk. The trainee kept apologizing and said that though she did not want to speak out of turn she had heard that carrying openly was not a problem and that it did not bother her. Gave them both OC info cards and wished them a nice day. I was fully prepared to cancel my 4 tire purchase if things had not gone as they did - I had not paid for them but they where being installed as this was happening. Having to take them off would not have pleased me but it would have made a high impact point I think. All ended well Yata hey |
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I OC'd yesterday at the Walmart in Midlothian off Midlothian turnpike. No issues. |
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New member here, though I've worked at the General Assembly with Philip and Mike (and Jim, though less often) on gun-owners' rights for years. First, I should mention that I went with family to Maggioli's, in Short Pump Town Center, last week while OCing. No problems. (Better not have been; the bill for 10 people was $240!) Previous poster said that there was little that could happen if a concerned citizen called the cops about a "man with a gun". I'm afraid that's not strictly accurate. In early March, I took the afternoon bus from the Capitol to Harrison Street, where I would transfer to the bus that takes me home. I made sure to flip my coat hem up above my revolver, and went into The Village Cafe. When I was seated, I took off my coat, ordered a beer and paid my tab. The plan was to nurse the beer for an hour and a half or so while chatting with some friends, then ride on home. Then the cops came. Three of them, and two cadets-in-training. They insisted that I come outside, and detained me for over 45 minutes. The bozo-in-charge, who later turned out to be (surprize!) new on the force, insisted that it was illegal for me to be drinking a beer while carrying. He would not look at the law (I had a copy in my pouch), and kept calling other people to get information. I was told that among the people he called were the magistrates, and his superiors, and the ABC officers, and the State Police. Probably also old Uncle Tom Cobleigh and all. At no time was I accused by anyone of being "under the influence of alcohol" (after all, I'd only had about a quarter of a pint), and of course while in the cafe I had been open-carrying rather than carrying concealed. The . . . what shall I call him? . . . the instigator told me that he'd let me go if I promised not to finish my beer; I told him that I'd already paid for it, and was going to drink it. He said that I could surrender the weapon to him, and pick it up in the morning; I asked him if he was prepared to give me a personal armed escort to my home, and stay on guard overnight. He offered to take the weapon, and deliver it to me at my house later that evening, but he was not prepared to give me time to ride the bus home. It seems that he finally reached someone who supported his position; he said that "the State Police" had told him what to do. He issued me a summons for "18.2-308: Consuming alcohol while possessing a Concealed Carry Permit". He confiscated the revolver with holster and ammunition, and also confiscated my Concealed Handgun Permit. He said that I could retrieve the weapon the next day. On a good note, when I spoke with the State Police liason officer at the General Assembly the next day (he's also in charge of training), he said that he'd change the cirriculum to eliminate this ignorance. I was not able to retrieve the weapon for ten days, since it had actually been submitted for testing. I had to argue with teh Property Section over the course of several days to retrieve the ammunition. ("Oh no, we never return ammunition.") A few weeks later, I went to court. The court had no record of the summons, and the cop was nowhere to be found. The judge passed the Xerox of my copy of the summons to the Commonwealth's Attorney, who said, "Your Honor, this isn't a crime!". The case was dismissed. I asked about my permit, and was told that the Court didn't have it, but that it should have been turned in to the Property Office. They didn't have it either. I had to go across the street to the Circuit Court and pay ten bucks (and an hour of my life) to get a duplicate. I filed a formal complaint with Richmond Police Internal Affairs, detailing what had happened. I asked that the officer be disciplined, and retrained, and that the other two officers and the two cadets be retrained, and that my original permit be returned, and that I be compensated for my out-of-pocket expenses caused by the officer's illegal actions. Right now, I have a letter from an Area Commander saying that the cop has been disiplined for not filling out the summons correctly, but that all other actions were entirely within the policies of the Richmond Police Department. This is not yet finished . . . Attachment: Complaint.txt (Downloaded 73 times) |
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RoyB wrote: New member here, though I've worked at the General Assembly with Philip and Mike (and Jim, though less often) on gun-owners' rights for years. Welcome, sorry that your first posting couldn't be more positive. Let us know how this all turns out. It might be wise to edit your attachment to remove your personal information. We do not need it and neither does anybody else. Yata hey |
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RoyB wrote:It seems that he finally reached someone who supported his position; he said that "the State Police" had told him what to do. He issued me a summons for "18.2-308: Consuming alcohol while possessing a Concealed Carry Permit". He confiscated the revolver with holster and ammunition, and also confiscated my Concealed Handgun Permit. He said that I could retrieve the weapon the next day. http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-308 I would be up someone's you-know-what about this. There is NOTHING in this code about consuming alcohol while carrying. |
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I'm sure that the officer was thinking about this statute: 18.2-308 (J1) " Any person permitted to carry a concealed handgun, who is under the influence of alcohol or illegal drugs while carrying such handgun in a public place, shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. Conviction of any of the following offenses shall be prima facie evidence, subject to rebuttal, that the person is "under the influence" for purposes of this section: manslaughter in violation of § 18.2-36.1, maiming in violation of § 18.2-51.4, driving while intoxicated in violation of § 18.2-266, public intoxication in violation of § 18.2-388, or driving while intoxicated in violation of § 46.2-341.24. Upon such conviction that court shall revoke the person's permit for a concealed handgun and promptly notify the issuing circuit court. A person convicted of a violation of this subsection shall be ineligible to apply for a concealed handgun permit for a period of five years" Now, as Roy stated, no one accused him of "being under the influence". One could argue that any alcohol in your body puts you at some degree of impairment, as minute as it may be. The issue here is the officer's failure to recognize one word in the statute : such "Such handgun" in that statute obviously refers to a "concealed" handgun...i.e. - "Any person permitted to carry a concealed handgun (Roy has a concealed handgun permit), who is under the influence of alcohol or illegal drugs while carrying such handgun in a public place" - what kind of handgun is "such handgun" in that case? A concealed handgun. Since he was carrying openly and was not accused of being under the influence, the officer was wrong in his interpretation of the statute and the Commonwealth Attorney was correct in his statement that no crime was committed. just my .02 |
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AbNo wrote: RoyB wrote: The charge was for consuming alcohol while possessing a permit ! I guess if he only OCd without a permit, he would have been OK. But his permit, even if he had no weapon, spelled trouble. (sarcasim) Good argument here for CCing a mini recorder! Yata hey |
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Grapeshot wrote:
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Does anyone have any experience with OC at Price Costco (Southside)? It appears their corporate policy is to not allow weapons of any kind, but the store isn't posted. At least not that I have been able to find! |
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RoyB Regular Member
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Mercutio wrote: 'Can anyone point me to a place in VA law that defines what constitutes "disturbing the peace"?' Sure, look online at <http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-415>. If you want further details, go to the library, locate the big 25-volumes or so set of "Code of Virginia", find the volume labeled "18.2", and look up section 18.2-415. You'll find a bunch of notes, probably several pages of them, following that section. These are court decisions that have dealt with interpreting the law over the years. Also, be sure to repeat that procedure in the smaller volume ("Pocket Part") that should be in the inside back cover. That will contain material since the main volume was printed. Again, you'll need to go to the library to do this, because the annotations aren't generally available online. Hope that helps a little. |
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ThunderRanch wrote: Does anyone have any experience with OC at Price Costco (Southside)? It appears their corporate policy is to not allow weapons of any kind, but the store isn't posted. At least not that I have been able to find! At one time several years ago (last time I was there) a sign was posted about 12 feet up from the ground about 6 feet to the left of the entrance. It was not really noticable/prominent/eyecatching. Cannot recall the exact wording, but was to the effect that weapons were not allowed. My tools for opening cartons, slicing apples, cleaning my findernails and other sundry chores went inside and bought something or other. Because I was on a lunch break from a state government job that prohibited possession of firearms in the workplace - including the parking lot - I was not carrying. stay safe. skidmark |
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Encounter with private security Took my trash out to the apartment complex dumpster the other day on the way out to do some errands. The armed roving security guard was parked out there working on some paperwork Guess my driver's door blocked his view as I got out & walked around to get my trash out of the back & put it in the dumpster, as he looked up but showed no other response/reaction. After dumping my trash I completed the circle walking around my vehicle. Security guy (aged about 60 but looking basically fit) started to get out as I came around the front of my vehicle, and from about 25 feet away asked me "Who are you with?" me: I'm by myself. sg: I mean, what outfit do you work for? me: I don't understand. sg: You do work security, right? me: why do you ask? sg: You're not in the business? me: Nope. sg: Then you're just carrying? That's good. me: It sure is. I was wearing grey cargo pocket trousers, a red tshirt tucked in, grey clog-type sneakers, and my John Moose green hat. Pistol @ 3 o'clock right side. How he figured I "worked security" from that outfit I do not know. We had a nice chat for a few minutes. I did not ask why he thought I "worked security" mainly because I was afraid to hear the answer. (Those who have met or seen me can appreciate my fear.) No harassment or paranoia on the part of the security guy, who was wearing a black tshirt with the company name across the front, bat belt with pistol, baton, cuffs, oc, radio & cellphone, plus his badge just to the left of the buckle, black 5-11 pants, and scruffy black boots of some hard-sole configuration. I drove away to the comment that the security guard "was glad to see folks taking personal responsibility, considering how bad it is getting out here." Basically a non-event. which is how all encounters between me and anybody else should be. But given how I was dressed and my physical appearance, why in goodness's name did he think I "worked security"? stay safe. skidmark |
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hlh wrote: Grapeshot wrote: Yeah, that had already occurred to me. Looked online, seems that there are some decent ones available pretty cheaply. I see that there's a thread on that topic elsewhere on OpenCarry, so will do some research there. Really only need a few hours' storage if it's solidstate and automatically rewrites oldest data. BTW, since getting the stupid letter saying that the cop acted in accordance with Richmond Police policy by busting me for obeying the law, I've been open-carrying a lot more often. Most recently: Bev's Homemade Ice Cream, Chop Suey Twoie and Critters and Crooks book stores, and The Eatery (all on Cary Street), and of course The Village Cafe and GRTC. Ran into one person (almost stereotypical Little Old Lady) on the bus who was upset; otherwise no problems. |
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Went to the Firehouse Theatre today with two ladies, to see "Reefer Madness: the Musical". Open carried, with no comments from anyone at any time. The show is absolutely hilarious, and made a bit more so since the Evil Dope Dealer (if you ever saw the original movie, you'll remember him) is wearing a shoulder holster . . . with the cross-strap going across his CHEST, rather than his back! Don't know whether this will continue to be true for the remaining shows, since I made a point of speaking with both actor and director. I heartily recommend the show, BTW. The cast worked their (mostly very shapely) buns off, and the audience laughed theirs off. It's been extended for TWO last performanceS: July 4th, 11pm (after the fireworks), AND JULY 5TH AT 8PM. Back to the topic of Open Carry: I've frequently carried in the ABC store on Thompson. No reactions from any customers, a couple of casual questions from staff. Yesterday, on the way to a Libertarian <http://www.lp.org/> meeting, a friend and I, both OC, stopped by Bleu Bistro <http://www.thebleubistro.com> for lunch. Absolutely delicious, and faster than McD's! Not a mumblin' word from staff. That meeting was at the Tuckahoe Library, and of course they never fuss about legal firearms. Last edited on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 06:43 pm by RoyB |
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OC'd at the Chesterfield Government offices (Commissioner of the Revenue and Treasurer's offices, procrasinated on paying those taxes!) ........Not even a second glance from anyone OC'd at the Chester Hooter's for lunch.......No issues OC'd at the Wawa on Route 10 in Chester. Spoke with the the Manager, Rich. No problems. |
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Open carried at Home Depot in Hanover and Ukrops and Best Buy and Starbucks in Glen Allen. No problems, as usual. |
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OCd at Arby's across from DMV on W. Broad St - got a nod from one of two LEOs re my Mexican carry WG. Yata hey |
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Sorry to be the dummy.....and possibly off topic, but what is Mexican Carry? (Outside the obvious definition of "How to get the illegal imigrants back across the border"!) |
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ThunderRanch wrote: Sorry to be the dummy.....and possibly off topic, but what is Mexican Carry? (Outside the obvious definition of "How to get the illegal imigrants back across the border"!) Carrying a gun in your waistband sans holster. Its a good way to ruin the ammo supply of your other "gun" AD + ER = ED ! |
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ThunderRanch wrote: Sorry to be the dummy.....and possibly off topic, but what is Mexican Carry? (Outside the obvious definition of "How to get the illegal imigrants back across the border"!) Fastest, cheapest, easiest way to a high-speed vasectomy. |
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OC's at the OfficeMax Commonwealth Center (Near Commonwealth 20 Cinemas). No issues. Also made a stop at Town Police Supply. They have a sign on the door stating all weapons must be unloaded prior to entering store. I asked if that also pertained to LEO's and CCW permit holders. They said it did pertain to permit holders, but not to LEO's. I didn't press the issue other than to say I'd take my money elsewhere. |
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oc'd at Goochland Courthouse Foodlion last night. |
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ProShooter wrote: ThunderRanch wrote:AbNo wrote:Sorry to be the dummy.....and possibly off topic, but what is Mexican Carry? (Outside the obvious definition of "How to get the illegal imigrants back across the border"!) Fastest, cheapest, easiest way to a high-speed vasectomy. ____________________________________________________________________ ThunderRanch - You have to excuse some of us on this site - everybody has an opinion....right. Yes Mexican carry is in the waist band/belt area without a hoster. Mine is set up intentionally for this style of carry as it is most suitable for my work environment. This work gun (WG) is a S & W five shot mod.60 with a bobbed hammer and Bianci Hip Grips - this grip is designed so that when the weapon is inserted inside the waist band one protruding grip panel slides over the belt on the outside. A Tyler aluminum grip extension and reload strip in my watch pocket completes the package. The weapon is both quite secure and accessable....oh and very safe from ADs or NDs! I have carried this weapon in this manner off and on for 25+ years. Accuracy - suffice to say that I ran it through my department's qualification course......but only scored a 98.6/100 6+6 was interesting with a 5 shot! Don't recall the Xs but you could put your fist through the target. Lets see: bobbed hammer, hammer block, NY trigger = weapon cannot fire without long trigger pull and the cylinder being free to rotate. Now there is one more requirement which holds true for any presentation - do not put finger on trigger until weapon is on target....even if you are carrying in a holster. BTW I much prefer Mexican carry with this weapon than I would a small semi-auto in a pocket holster. Now gentlemmen, if you please, pray tell us why and how such carry is dangerous or bad if it is done as I described it. Perhaps you've heard it so often, you now know it to be so...... in all cases. Meanwhile back on thread: Only at 7-11 for A.M. coffee on Jeff Davis did I garner a bug-eyed reaction but that was from two (I'm guessing) undocumented workers. Yata hey |
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ThunderRanch wrote: OC's at the OfficeMax Commonwealth Center (Near Commonwealth 20 Cinemas). No issues. Double check that....I'm in TPS at least once a week and I seem to recall the sign says something about "all unholstered firearms need to be unloaded before entry". I walk in there every time either CC or OC and I never unload and have never been questioned. |
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I'll double check Proshooter......I didn't have my glasses on (Sucks getting older!) and the person I queried was the young sales guy, so I don't know if he was fully "up" on the intent of the sign! I'll post what I find when I swing by there again. |
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Double checked the sign on the Town Police Supply. ProShooter is absolutely correct. It only states that if a weapon is unholstered, it must be unloaded. Further clarification is that they only ask that you clear the weapon if you unholster it, so you don't have to unload it prior to entering the store! Nice people and I apologized profusely about MY misinterpretiation and told them I'd be sure to retract all my negative comments!! OC'd at my eye doctor's office while getting the new lenses for my glasses (ought to help with reading those signs!!) no issues OC'd at Arby's Harbor Pointe on Hull Street for lunch.....no issues. Did have one young fellow (I'm guessing he was about six) ask if my gun was real. I answered yes it was and he went "Wow that's cool!" His grandfather gave an appreciative nod and I went on my way. |
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ThunderRanch wrote: Double checked the sign on the Town Police Supply. ProShooter is absolutely correct. It only states that if a weapon is unholstered, it must be unloaded. Further clarification is that they only ask that you clear the weapon if you unholster it, so you don't have to unload it prior to entering the store! Nice people and I apologized profusely about MY misinterpretiation and told them I'd be sure to retract all my negative comments!! Marshall and the rest of the folks there are top notch. I was pretty sure that I remembered the sign correctly. It says good things about you that you went back to reread the sign and apologized to them.....kudos! Jim |
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Thanks ProShooter......I'm most certainly not perfect and am a big enough man to admit my mistakes!! |
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It finally happened! Had somebody ask me "What's with the gun?" Was in the Circuit City of West Broad at Gaskins before the OC Dinner last night. Had spoken with a young (teen - early 20s) female associate, who called over another associate (male, mid-30s) to try to figure out where the item I wanted might be located. THey ended up calling over another associate (male, late 20s) who wanted me to trace my initial search pattern. As this last guy was checking for stock behind the display shelves he asked "What's up with the gun? A couple of folks seemed to be upset by it." Since I don't pay attention to folks who go or or or  or  or just behind my back, I had not been aware of that. Also, I had not seen anybody running out of the store or making furtive phone calls, and had not heard "OMG HE'S GOT A GUN!".As the question was asked in a vice that was not angry or accusing I ended up having a short but pleasant conversation about personal responsibility, OC law, and worring about the wrong things. I do not think I made a convert to OC-ing, or firearms in general (he said it just did not interest him). It's nice to see that someone can ask "What's up with the gun?" without being in the middle of a melt-down hissy fit. stay safe. skidmark |
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I had a similar experience a couple of weeks ago. I was at a small car dealership on Patterson Ave looking at a truck. The salesman was very nice and helpful. I left without buying the truck (12 mpg would be a little hard to stomach right now), but as I was leaving he asked me why I carried a firearm just to look at a truck. I smiled and replied that I always carry one. He smiled back and said alright. |
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vt357 wrote: I had a similar experience a couple of weeks ago. I was at a small car dealership on Patterson Ave looking at a truck. The salesman was very nice and helpful. I left without buying the truck (12 mpg would be a little hard to stomach right now), but as I was leaving he asked me why I carried a firearm just to look at a truck. I smiled and replied that I always carry one. He smiled back and said alright. chris, depending on the situation you could have shot back that you knew you were going to look at a used car so you were preparing to be robbed |
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SicSemperTyrannis wrote: Short Pump Town Center does have a no guns policy, for what it is worth. But the Barnes and Noble is right next to the mall (facing West Broad Street), but not actually in the mall or part of the mall, just on the same tract of land (I said Borders in my original post, I meant Barnes and Noble, although I have open carried at the Borders on West Broad several times as well). Barnes and Noble has always been open carry friendly as far as I can tell (see numerous other postings about carrying there). In fact, I have carried there several times when off-cuty, uniformed Henrico Police and Sherriff deputies were present (they provide security in the evenings on the weekend) - although I may not have been noticed. I have been to Short Pump Town Center numerous times while carrying concealed (I have my CCW) but when I'm eating with my family at different restuarants there I always expose my weapon. I have eaten at Cheesecake Factory (numerous times), Firebirds (numerous times), California Pizza Kitchen, Bakers Crust...etc and have never had an issue. No one has ever said anything to me. I have been to the Short Pump Town Center's Website and no where on there can I find anything about no weapons allowed or anything mentioning weapons at all. I also have not seen any posted signs forbidding and weapons. Can someone point me in the proper direction for this information? It is supposed to be posted, but I'm not seeing it (maybe I'm blind) either on their website or at the mall location. I typically carry concealed anyway but would still want to be in compliance in case I'm missing anything. |
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P2 wrote: SicSemperTyrannis wrote:Short Pump Town Center does have a no guns policy, for what it is worth. But the Barnes and Noble is right next to the mall (facing West Broad Street), but not actually in the mall or part of the mall, just on the same tract of land (I said Borders in my original post, I meant Barnes and Noble, although I have open carried at the Borders on West Broad several times as well). Barnes and Noble has always been open carry friendly as far as I can tell (see numerous other postings about carrying there). In fact, I have carried there several times when off-cuty, uniformed Henrico Police and Sherriff deputies were present (they provide security in the evenings on the weekend) - although I may not have been noticed. I recall signage about midway up on the wall as you enter from the parking lot facing Broad Street. Cannot recall which wall (right or left hand side) it was on. Since I have only entered via one of the possible entrances I can't say if all are posted or not. I have not seen anything on the doors directly into stores from the lot facing Broad Street. Like many malls, the rules & regulations are posted, but the question is just how "prominately" that posting is. stay safe. skidmark |
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Here's something interesting- I was talking to a Richmond City LEO last night, and he said that the standard caliber that the department uses is .357 SIG. Anybody else hear this? He was carrying some kind of SIG Pro, and showed me one of his spare mags. Sure enough, .357 SIG. You'd think that would be a little overkill as far as penetration goes, eh? |
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mercutio545 wrote: Here's something interesting- Richmond City is a very pro-Sig city. The Sheriff's Offices uses Sigs and the deputies have to buy their own guns. .357 Sig is a good round and its on par with the .40 cal that most departments are carrying these days. I see no problem with it. |
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ProShooter wrote: mercutio545 wrote:Here's something interesting- Oh definitely, I think it's a great round. If it weren't for ammo costs at the range, my new XD would be chambered in .357 SIG instead of 9mm. I just remember hearing that the .357 SIG can overpenetrate, and might not be good for the usual situations where a LEO might need to shoot (lots of people, hostage type situations, etc). Doesn't the VA State Police use 229's in .357 SIG because the round can go through car doors? Oh, and ProShooter, your 357th post was about .357 SIG. What a coincidence Last edited on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 04:03 pm by mercutio545 |
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mercutio545 wrote:
I'm not sure about the SP. I dont interact with them enough to remember what cartridge they use. As for the #357 post, you are very observant! Jim |
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ProShooter wrote: mercutio545 wrote:Here's something interesting- The characteristics/ballistics of the ammunition used are more the deciding factor in penetration, expansion etc. than the caliber of the weapon. A .44 mag can be feed a lite, low calorie diet or an extreme fast, hard hitting round. My choice for a factory loading in a 1911 is a lighter, faster round that will penetrate car doors, suffer little deflection through auto glass, yet will not over penetrate or richocet and expands exceedingly well. I carry it for its safety benefits. Yata hey |
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+1 We did a test a few years ago on various .40 cal rounds and found that the Speer Gold Dot was a super round to use in our Glocks. Different characteristics exist within the same caliber. |
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Back on thread - OCd at Lee's Chicken next door to Pleasant's Hardware on Broad St. near the main DMV today for lunch........ ..........and small world I was almost surrounded by Richmond PD .357 Sigs! Four of them worn by plainclothes types and one by a very large Sgt. They were eating at the closest tables to me and without question several of them saw mine - only received nods and back to the chicken. Best fast food chicken out there. Yata hey |
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Went to Harrison Street Coffee Shop for lunch today, OC'd with no problems. |
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OC'd in a bunch of places today - Wawa on Broad/Parham Virginia Center Commons Mall Wawa on Brook Road Wawa on Staples Mill Panera on Staples Mill/Parham Wawa on Broad at the Goochland Co. line. No issues whatsoever... Last edited on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 11:08 pm by ProShooter |
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Had a good LEO (non) experience with three Virginia State Troopers only 40 minutes ago at the Chik Fil A across from Virginia Center Commons mall. I walked in to get some sweet tea. The place was super-packed (dinner time). I stood in line behind three uniformed VA State Troopers. They didn't notice for several minutes (they were jokingly calling the considerably older trooper "grandpa", the whole interaction was amusing and endearing). Eventually, I detected the slight murmur of recognition.... and then one of them did seem to step back about 5 feet behind me to "wait for the others" (previously, all three had been in front of me, and I was immediately behind them with their backs turned to me). I din't mind the slight tactical decision to move one trooper behind me (I don't know... maybe the trooper moved back because he had just finished his order and he was now in the way of the huge line - but this also seemed to coincide with the murmur of recognition). Anyway, they said nothing and acted normal and I was proud of our Troopers. I know a (very) few people on this board take some sort of bizarre and pathetic pleasure in hating all LEO's, but this was a great example of why Virginians should be proud to live in Virginia. Sure, we have the occasional incident... but we also seem to have the most daily open carriers - by a significant multiple - when compared to every other state. And many of us (like myself) have been noticed by officers many times without it being a big deal. And our few incidents are always resolved basically in our favor. |
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+1 Well said indeed. Yata hey |
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SicSemperTyrannis wrote:
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ProShooter wrote: OC'd in a bunch of places today - Is it time to trade in that monster for a Prius? You seem to be spending a lot of time at Wawa, and I'm guessing it is not for the iced coffee. BTW - Wawa is one of the friendliest places for OC-ing because noboody seems to notice. stay safe. skidmark |
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skidmark wrote: ProShooter wrote:OC'd in a bunch of places today - Actually, every stop was for business, but thanks for asking. Also, a few folks actually did notice, but as usual I was warmly received. I've never actually had the iced coffee there as I prefer my coffee the old fashioned way. I'd ask you how it is, but I'd venture a guess that you've sampled their other fare more often than the iced coffee....... |
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Wawa has a delicious Minute Maid Lemonade slushee that I make sure to get whenever I stop in. Not to mention I love their hoagies, but the way they put the toppings on makes them a ridiculous mess. Opting for the same thing, but in sandwich form is much better; just tried it the other day. But that's neither here nor there. I'd say I OC there about 50% of the time I go, as the other 50% is when I go on a lunch break when we are working near one. Today I OC'd at: Verizon Wireless store on W. Broad Gander Mountain Green Top Wal-Mart No problems anywhere, of course. Sold a few nail guns to a guy via Craigslist and we got to talking about it. He assumed I was some sort of LEO and asked about it when he spotted it and I told him otherwise and informed him of VA OC laws and CC laws, whilst referencing OCDO. Nice guy. Last edited on Sat Jul 26th, 2008 03:26 am by curtiswr |
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curtiswr wrote: Wawa has a delicious Minute Maid Lemonade slushee that I make sure to get whenever I stop in. Not to mention I love their hoagies, but the way they put the toppings on makes them a ridiculous mess. Opting for the same thing, but in sandwich form is much better; just tried it the other day. But that's neither here nor there. I'd say I OC there about 50% of the time I go, as the other 50% is when I go on a lunch break when we are working near one. curtis - sounds like we passed each other around town today! |
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Certainly seems like it By the way; I meant to ask at the end of the class but was in a rush to get to the Heller party at Fuddruckers, but where in Richmond do I go to apply for the CHP? Would it be to City Hall and then to wherever they send me for fingerprints, if necessary? Or is the clerk's office in some other building? |
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Go to the Circuit Court Clerk's office in the county/city in which you reside. Fill out the application form, get printed if they require it, give them the completed app, print card, $50 and a copy of our certificate. Hope that you enjoyed the class! Jim |
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curtiswr wrote: Certainly seems like it Was this just a "safety" course or one tailored directly to acquiring your CHP? Normally this is covered in class and with handouts detailing such. See the Clerk of Courts in the city or county where you live. Remember you do not have to include your Social Security number. Yata hey |
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skidmark Activist Member
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curtiswr wrote: Certainly seems like it Curtis, Seems folks are trying too hard to be helpful. Take your paperwork and your $50 to the John Marshall Courts Building downtown. Go to the office of the Clerk of the Circuit Court, and wait till you are talking with the Clerk or Assistant Clerk before you sign the application form (they get testy if you bring it in notarized, but that's just them). The Clerk's Office will tell you where you have to go if you need prints done. Pay your $50 and get your receipt before you leave to get your prints done. Then go get your prints taken care of - it may be at the police HQ on 10th (?) Street so you may not need to move your vehicle to a new parking lot. Remember to clear your pockets of everything nasty before going into the John Marshall Courts Building. You have to pass thru the metal detector and they will become nasty about stuff you forgot to leave outside. It's not worth being made to listen to their lecture. stay safe. skidmark |
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Seems we are hearing of more and more positive or neutral LEO encounters/interactions. A positive trend likely to continue I would think. |
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Today OC'd at: Halligans BBQ & Ribs in Shockoe Bottom Shockoe Chef Showdown/17th Street Farmer's Market Chop Suey used bookstore on W. Cary and Randolph Barnes & Noble on W.Broad and Libbie There was a big crowd of people at the Farmer's Market/Chef Showdown and a few police officers. No one said anything. At least one officer noticed it and seemed to keep his eye on me for about a minute but nothing came of it. Good feeling. + Thanks for the help/clarification where I need to go. Last edited on Sat Jul 26th, 2008 09:36 pm by curtiswr |
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Last night OCd at Kentuky Fried Chicken on Patterson Ave. - no negatives OCd today at: Waffle House, W. Broad St. near Glenside Wa-Wa - same area Best Buy - Short Pump Wal-Mart - Short Pump All without incident. Yata hey |
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Grapeshot wrote: All without incident. Dale, you're an incident wherever you go... |
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hlh wrote: Grapeshot wrote:All without incident. Thank you sir! All forms of recognition gratefully received. Yata hey |
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OC'd today at: Ukrops at the Village, Patterson Ave (twice, lunch time and dinner time) Staples, Willow Lawn Various gun stores in C'field Wawa, West Broad near Parham I got a few looks in Staples, no issues. A Henrico PD officer came into Wawa with a woman. He was waiting for her to pay for something and he was standing at the coffee island. He walked right past me initially but I think he finally spotted me. Didnt say a word though, and he walked out. |
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OC'd last night at Bertucci's Restaurant and Barnes and Noble in Short Pump - no issues at all. |
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Had a very interesting week OC wise. Thursday - Pleasants Hdwr. on Jeff Davis a salesman that has known me for 10-12 years, stared at my belt line and asked, " What is that, a knife?" I explained what it was and that I'd had at least that in the open everytime he had helped me all of those years, he laughed at said he couldn't believe that he'd missed it. I can! Gave him an informative ear full and an OCDO card. Friday - At Sun Trust Bank just a couple of blocks from Pleasants Hdwr, a teller that has known me for years and always been cordial and efficient (she calls me by name) asked me if I was carring today. I was a little caught off guard because she had never referred to this before. "Yes 24/7," I replied. By the time we finished talking (it was slack time for the bank) I had suggested that she might consider the idea - she has/is. I gave her VCDL and OCDO information and my screen name. I will follow up on this but shame on me for not taking the initiative a long time ago. Sat.AM - Waffle House, Glenside & Broad - No incidents inside other than very cold - bad choice of booth. Outside as Skidmark and I exited, we were flagged down by a diner who wanted to know "if that was legal!" Great conversation (he was not an anti) - chance to educate, inform and recruit - Skidmark's at the ready info package is awsome - the gentleman left with a "GUNS SAVE LIVES" button pinned to his shirt and the best part - He did it himself!!! And before the above potential future member departed a 2nd man approached with the same "Is that legal?" approaching question. This gentleman was from New Jersey and buying 50 acres near Victoria. He was amazed and fascinated but not a full convert....but he left with a lot of knowlege which hopefully will make him a better informed citizen - he was pleasant and gracious. These events and conversations demonstrate best, one of my major reasons for OCing regularly - education of the public direct one-to-one. Sat PM - Joe's Inn - on Shields in the upper Fan - dinner with D - no problems but one of the kitchen help almost walked into the door jamb. Gun Show - not really an OC event but fun - saw numerous VCDL and OCDO friends. I have been unable to commit to full shifts at the VCDL table for various reason but do put in time frequently to help relieve the regulars and give them a sometimes much needed break.....and business was quite good. Yata hey |
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McDonald's in Carytown: Employee stopped me as I was walking (he was outside changing the trash) and told me I shouldn't take it in as they were robbed before and it might make some people nervous. I asked him if it was posted that I couldn't carry in there and whether or not he was the manager. He wasn't and he said it wasn't posted anywhere, so I informed him that I was within my legal right to carry inside unless posted. He didn't seem to care and interrupted me with "I know I'm just saying you might make people nervous" I told him thanks, went in, checked the other entrance for a posting and didn't see one, placed my order and sat down and ate it all without issue from any of the other employees (including the manager who I saw looking at my gun) or any of the other customers. |
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McDonalds: At Hopkins & Beulah Rd. southside - picking up a dbl cholesterol on way to gun show again - been in there 100s of time OCing. This time the clerk threw up his hands, took a half step back and said with a smile, "Your not going to shoot me are you?" "You are NOT funny and I wish to talk to the manager now." Nice conversation, apology and the promise to talk to the clerk who had disappeared. I really do not think that other customers were aware of what had happened but I was quietly p*ssed. Got a free pie - whoopee! (sarcasim) Yata hey |
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Grapeshot wrote: McDonalds: At Hopkins & Beulah Rd. southside - picking up a dbl cholesterol on way to gun show again - been in there 100s of time OCing. This time the clerk threw up his hands, took a half step back and said with a smile, "Your not going to shoot me are you?" Don't you absolutely LOOOOVE it when folks pull those kinds of "jokes". I know I do! |
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Spectre wrote: Grapeshot wrote:McDonalds: At Hopkins & Beulah Rd. southside - picking up a dbl cholesterol on way to gun show again - been in there 100s of time OCing. This time the clerk threw up his hands, took a half step back and said with a smile, "Your not going to shoot me are you?" Actually, no! I love it when they tell me that that's a good looking .45 or even when they ask me why I carry that. But not the mock terror thing, not backing away with hands raised - that could cause undue excitement in a casual observer and trigger an emergency call - a lot like yelling "FIRE" in a movie theater - and that is what I told the manager. Yata hey |
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OC'd today at the Navy Federal Credit Union branch at Broad and Gaskins. No looks or discussions at all! OC'd today at Bob Moates sporting Goods. The only comments were sincere appreciation (and some occaisional drool) over my .45. |
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ThunderRanch wrote: OC'd today at the Navy Federal Credit Union branch at Broad and Gaskins. No looks or discussions at all! Isnt the Navy Federal Credit Union posted ? I OC at BM all the time. Nice bunch of guys there. |
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I looked and the only "postings" I saw were for No Smoking, No Pets, and No Food or Drink. All those were on the bottom of the right hand door. The only other thing on the entrance was the hours. Bit I walked right psat the "receptionist", spent some time with a teller, and then had my PIN reset by a customer service representative. The manager even walked by a couple times. Nothing was said and I didn't perceive any added interest in the gun. Guess I'll continue to OC there until someone says otherwise!! |
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ThunderRanch wrote: I looked and the only "postings" I saw were for No Smoking, No Pets, and No Food or Drink. All those were on the bottom of the right hand door. The only other thing on the entrance was the hours. Bit I walked right psat the "receptionist", spent some time with a teller, and then had my PIN reset by a customer service representative. The manager even walked by a couple times. Nothing was said and I didn't perceive any added interest in the gun. Guess I'll continue to OC there until someone says otherwise!! Good deal. I thought for some reason that all NFCU's were posted. My mistake. |
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Stoney Point Fashion Park/Mall No problems. Specific stores visited: Oakley, Banana Republic, Anthropologie, Brookstone Comfort (Southern Style restaurant on 200 W. Broad St) A few gawkers from the bar and tables when we were being seated and leaving, but that's it. No problems from anyone though. Great food; make it a point to try them! Kinko's (Libbie Center on Broad & Libbie) No problems Ellwood Thompson's (Natural food store at.... Ellwood & Thompson) No problems |
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I open carry at Ellwood Thompsons in Carytown at least once a week. I have never had an issue. I open carry in Carytown quite a bit, actually - never have had a problem. I have twice interacted with LEO's in Carytown with no problems... |
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SicSemperTyrannis wrote: I open carry at Ellwood Thompsons in Carytown at least once a week. I have never had an issue. With all of this "Carytown Carry" I am amazed that I've only once ever seen a unicorn there and that was over a year ago at the larger 7-11. Yata hey |
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ProShooter wrote: ThunderRanch wrote:OC'd today at the Navy Federal Credit Union branch at Broad and Gaskins. No looks or discussions at all! Does it matter if it's posted? I have heard that the "no guns" or the gun with a slash through it hold no weight in VA. |
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Spectre wrote: ProShooter wrote:ThunderRanch wrote:OC'd today at the Navy Federal Credit Union branch at Broad and Gaskins. No looks or discussions at all! Opinions vary, but the general concensus is that a posted sign such as that is a warning against trespassing. If a business posts a sign that says "no food or drink", then they are telling you that as a condition of being allowed entry onto their private property, you must not enter with food or drink. You are not allowed in their business with food or drink. Firearms would be the same thing. Let's say that you have a rule that no one enters your home with muddy shoes, and you post a sign to that effect. You are saying that people with muddy shoes are not welcome in your home, whereas people without muddy shoes are more than welcome. Its a condition of entry set by you the homeowner as a rule on your private property. If someone enters, or attempts to enter with muddy shoes, you can prohibit their entry. |
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Spectre wrote: ProShooter wrote:ThunderRanch wrote:OC'd today at the Navy Federal Credit Union branch at Broad and Gaskins. No looks or discussions at all! It matters in that it tells you that you are not welcome there. Further you could be charged with tresspass if carrying beyond the posted limits. While only a misdemenor, it could take time and maybe some money to resolve. This has been heavily debated on other threads to no real conclusion. Yes you would be in technical violation, no it is not a felony, no you don't have to be verbally asked to leave but probably would be etc., etc., etc. Probably more than anything else, your reaction/response to a request to leave will determine the outcome. Best advice - leave immediately and follow up with appropriate letters. Yata hey |
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OC'ed all over Chesterfield the past few weeks. Walmart, Home Depot, Petsmart, Target, Kohls, Domino's Pizza, Kroger (off duty Chesterfield officer working as security walked right by w/o saying a word), and Chili's all on Hull St. to name a few. Most recently I bought a new computer at Best Buy - had great service from the salesman. And most importantly no problems at any of the stores. |
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I've been seen open carrying by state troopers the last three times I've been to the Chik-Fil-a in Glen Allen at Virginia Center Commons (all in the past two weeks). On at least two of the occasions, I was 100% definitely seen - got no reaction. The troopers went about their business, and I went about mine. Virginia is (usually) awesome! I spent nearly five years in California after graduate school, and in Santa Barbara I would have went to jail! Sic Semper Tyrannis! Also, I've open carried everywhere near Virginia Center Commons over the past couple weeks - Starbucks, Kroger, Michaels, Best Buy, Ukrops, Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. All without incident or even comment, except the young employee at Kroger who asked if I was a "special agent" (I was in jeans and a punk t-shirt!) which made me laugh. Last edited on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 01:41 am by SicSemperTyrannis |
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curtiswr wrote: Stoney Point Fashion Park/Mall Comfort is great. I open carried there once while eating dinner with a friend. No comments and a fun atmosphere and good food. |
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SicSemperTyrannis wrote:I open carry at Ellwood Thompsons in Carytown at least once a week. I have never had an issue. I was going to at the watermelon festival but talked myself out of it. Too many people. |
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My boyfriend and I are on our way to CaryTown in about 10 minutes. We will be shopping for an hour or two. I will be open carrying and wearing jeans and a t-shirt. I expect no problems, as usual! |
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I was just in Carytown OCing! Maybe I should run back over there and see if I can find you two; only live a few blocks away. |
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SicSemperTyrannis Regular Member
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Open carried yesterday in Carytown for two hours at about 12 stores. No problems or hassles. Stores included (but not limited to): Carytown Burgers and Fries, the store that sells teas next door to Carytown Burgers and Fries, Dogma, Rivery City Cellers, For the Love of Chocolate, Can Can, etc... |
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SicSemperTyrannis wrote: Open carried yesterday in Carytown for two hours at about 12 stores. No problems or hassles. I've always been a bit squeamish about OC'ing in Carytown because, in general, the area seems very liberal and I didn't want to ruin my wife's shopping trip by being asked to leave the store. |
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hlh wrote: SicSemperTyrannis wrote:Open carried yesterday in Carytown for two hours at about 12 stores. No problems or hassles. Its the liberal places that make it that much more fun!! I'm kinda new to the OCing thing and still get nervous when I carry in these liberal places but I've been wearing in your face conservative tshirts in these areas for a while now. You get a lot of looks, comments even compliments. Once you get over the nervousness its not bad. Its actually a lot of fun. Which reminds me....I gotta go find my "NoBama" shirt now so I can get ready for the gym (which is in Pentagon City nonetheless). I understand that there is a different dynamic with the handgun because you can be asked to leave but from my experiences and everything that I've read that only happens about 1% of the time. If they ask you to leave go put your gun in the car and meet your wife back in the store. |
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richarcm wrote:
If asked to leave, I would show them my checkbook/credit card/cash and tell them this is leaving with me! Politely of course. BTW - I've never been asked to leave any establishment including too many to list in Carytown. Yata hey |
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Grapeshot wrote: richarcm wrote: I agree Grapeshot, and the issue for me is "ruining my wife's shopping experience". My wife is very pro-gun, but if she has to make a choice between shopping and OC'ing she'll pick shopping every time. |
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hlh wrote: Grapeshot wrote:richarcm wrote: We all have our priorities don't we. That's why we like shopping at "hardware" stores so much! Yata hey |
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8/24 Cracker Barrel in Ashland/Hanover Gander Mountain Richmond Airport-curbside And few areas around Chesterfield Marco Last edited on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 03:59 pm by Agent19 |
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Ukrops and First Market Bank, Village shopping center Tuckahoe Library Fast Signs on West Broad no complaints, although the 2 employees at Fast Signs asked for our business cards. |
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Virginia Credit Union, Glenside Drive UPS Store, Gayton Road First Market Bank and Ukrops for lunch at the Village Shopping Center Dry Cleaners on West Broad near Willow Lawn No problems at all....did have a chp holder come up and thank me for exercising my right to carry in Ukrops. He asked if I ever encounter any problems with the public and was overjoyed to see someone carrying. He asked for a business card and was very polite. |
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Awesome Henrico Experience (especially for me): Chik-Fil-a at the Ukrops across from Virginia Center Commons mall with three law enforcement officers clearly noticing me... and not caring (state trooper and two of Henrico's finest). Trooper was in line with me and two officers were eating together. I had to walk right next to them at the back of the store to use the restoroom. I have always had perfect experiences with State Troopers (they never cease to impress me) but have had mixed experiences in Henrico (and the Henrico PD has a mixed - but improving - reputation in this area). |
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OC'd today at: Wawa at Iron Bridge/Eagle View Cici's Pizza in Merchant's Walk, Broad St. No problems, but lots of stares at Cici's |
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Wal-Mart early this morning. No issues.....even had a conversation with the greeter on the way out!! OfficeMax at Commonwealth Center.....no issues, but did hear a guy as he was getting in his car asking the woman he was with...."Did you see the gun that guy was carrying?!?" I'm sure it was merely sincere admiration for the fine piece of Springfield Armory hardware! Edited to add: Bank of America branch on Hull street near Deer Run. No comments or issues. Midas on Hull Street near Courthouse. No issues. Last edited on Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 08:12 pm by ThunderRanch |
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I've been lurking a while and value the info that's shared in this thread. I've carried for a while, and using the info in this thread started OCing more frequently realizing there are folks around here OCing as well. So, in the spirit of sharing info in case there are others around this area interested in OCing, here's my list of usual spots: Lowes at Parham/I-95 Home Depot at Sliding Hill/I-95 Walmart at Parham and Brook FoodLion at Parham and Brook Va Credit Union at Va Ctr Commons Mall Fuddruckers at Broad/Parham (This was my inaugural OC venture way back on the OC weekend, July 4th) I also have OC'd at several of the restaurants between the I-295/Rt1 interchange and the VCC mall, but I forget which ones. I'll be sure to keep the list updated. And, keep up the good work. |
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bnkrazy wrote: I've been lurking a while and value the info that's shared in this thread. I've carried for a while, and using the info in this thread started OCing more frequently realizing there are folks around here OCing as well. So, in the spirit of sharing info in case there are others around this area interested in OCing, here's my list of usual spots: Welcome aboard bnkrazy! |
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bnkrazy wrote: carried for a while, and using the info in this thread started OCing more frequently realizing there are folks around here OCing as well. +1 on the welcome - lots of good folks here with plenty to share. Check out the OC dinner we have each month around the 2nd Tuesday, smaller breakfast meet-ups and in the planning stages OC trash pickup. If you haven't yet, consider joining VCDL http://www.vcdl.org/ - at least sign up for the Va-Alerts to keep current on what's happening at state and local level. VCDL is sponsering a picnic and steel plate shoot in Culpeper Oct. 4th. Yata hey |
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Hello ALL, I have been OC in the following locations without a hint of an issue: 1. Quiznos - Downtown on E Main 2. Quiznos - W Broad past BMW Dealership 3. Kroger - W Broad 3 lights past the Quiznos (#2 above) 4. Kroger - Williamsburg Rd 5. Ford Dealership - on W Broad (Has some GREAT Mustangs for the die hards) 6. Movie Gallery - W Broad Question History:. I was making a pit stop at the BOA Plaza on E Main and wasn't sure about how they would handle OC'ing, since they have an armed security guard there. So, to avoid a "possible" scene, I opted to make the pit stop another day and handled my transactions at the ATM on Cary St, behind the BOA Plaza. QUESTION - Is it OK to OC at the BOA's with the armed security guards? In general, are the Banks (Special attention to the ones who use security guards) OK with us who OC. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< My NEW OC weapopn of choice = The Taurus Millennium PT145 PRO (3rd Generation), 3.25" barrel and loaded with 10 in the clip and one down the pike. Holster of choice, Uncle Mikes "Sidekick Ambidextrous Hip Holster". The PT145 fits in there like a glove, smooth in and out. Has a great Thumb Break, ALL adjustable. It all just looks like it was made to be.... Does anyone have any Feedback on the following two shoulder rigs? I want to get one of them and I am leaning towards #1 (Below). #1. Pro-Pak Horizontal Shoulder Holsters #2. Pro-Pak Vertical Shoulder Holsters Thanks for the assistance. Gunny |
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Hello One & ALL, I heard a while back that the Movie Theater in Midlothian, the "Commonwealth 20", to be exact, had a NO WEAPONS ZONE policy (NO handguns, concealed or OC) at that location. Can anyone update me on this... Thanks for the assistance. Gunny |
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OK, my final question for the night... I need to renew my Chesterfield CCH, but since I no longer reside there I need to register in Richmond. Can someone fill me in on where I need to go to do whats required in the city. Can you please break it down as in step by step instructions. Thanks for the assistance. Gunny Last edited on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 08:14 am by Gunny5821 |
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Gunny - suggestion - when posting multilpe querys try to do it in one posting, it's easier to respond. If a new thought comes up, just click edit and type away. Also if you are posting a change in subject from the OP (orignial posting/poster) start a new thread - no complaint, meant to be friendly suggestion. Bank of America - no signs - never a problem - security just nods and smiles. I consider them back-up. Shoulder holsters - IMO do not like those that point/cover whatever is behind me. Commonwealth 20 - there are those that I've heard just go into stealth mode. Renewal CHP - There is no registration of handguns in Va. You are correct though that applications and renewals for a permit to Carry Concealed Handgun must be done in the municipality in which you reside. Go to the clerk of circuit court in Richmond to make application - someone else will have to tell you the exact building. Remember that no social security number nor fingerprints are required. The following links should answer most of your questions. http://www.vcdl.org/static/ccw.html http://tinyurl.com/47z5at - item #2 http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_ResidentConcealed.shtm Yata hey P.S. - try to catch an OC dinner (2nd Tues. of the month) You'l meet like minded, good people. Last edited on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 03:34 pm by Grapeshot |
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OC'ed at Cracker Barrel on Hull St last night... mmm biscuits and cornbread. |
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I was OCing when I stopped at Chipotle just south of VCC mall to grab dinner on the way home today. Great food, great service. Last edited on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 10:42 pm by bnkrazy |
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Gunny5821 wrote: OK, my final question for the night... I need to renew my Chesterfield CCH, but since I no longer reside there I need to register in Richmond. Can someone fill me in on where I need to go to do whats required in the city. Can you please break it down as in step by step instructions.Circuit Court Clerks office in the John Marshall Courts building located on East Marshall Street between N. *th and N. 9th Streets. I suggest parking in the deck on N. 9th Street close to the Coliseum. The entrance is on the north side of the building. You can not carry period in the building. No cell phones, pagers etc.. After the metal detectors the Clerk's office is on the right hand side. The is all on the first floor. A phone call ahead of time may help for paper work needed. It should be no more than you did the first time. No fingerprinting, just provide ID. If you need anything else just ask. The parking deck is reasonable and bring cash. |
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kenny wrote: Gunny5821 wrote:OK, my final question for the night... I need to renew my Chesterfield CCH, but since I no longer reside there I need to register in Richmond. Can someone fill me in on where I need to go to do whats required in the city. Can you please break it down as in step by step instructions.Circuit Court Clerks office in the John Marshall Courts building located on East Marshall Street between N. *th and N. 9th Streets. I suggest parking in the deck on N. 9th Street close to the Coliseum. The entrance is on the north side of the building. There are also metered spaces right in front of the VCU building, on the other side of the Courts parking lot. If you time it right, you can get a space on someone else's dime like I did today - 56 minutes left on the meter! |
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Gunny5821 wrote:
I OC at: Virginia Credit Union, Glenside Drive First Market Bank in Ukrops at the Village Shopping Center Never had a problem, but no armed guards there either. |
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Welcome aboard Gunny. I will reiterate what was previously said...... BOA: no issues at all whether with a guard or not. Commonwealth 20 was recently bought by Regal Cinema's. Regal has a no weapons policy and there IS a sign if you look hard enough near the entrance door. It is one of those little "circle with a slash" signs and has a revolver in it, so I merely assume it doesn't apply to my semi-auto! |
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ThunderRanch wrote: Welcome aboard Gunny. me thinks I need to buy a revolver! |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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I stopped by the Walgreens near the VCC mall on the way home and had a nice chat with the cashier about the Halloween goodies I picked up. She didn't seem concerned in the least bit that I was OCing. |
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Well, it was bound to happen some time..... I made a visit to the BOA downtown at Main & 12th and all seemed well, that was until the security guard approached me and said, "Who are you with?", I looked at him and said, "Say again". The guard said, "Yeah, what law enforcement are you with?" I told him, "I am not with any, I am retired". The guard said, "You are not allowed to wear that here". I said, "I am Open Carrying as permitted by the laws of VA, as such I am allowed to OC here and told the guard that he may want to ask the BOA Mgmt about his question" The guard walked away, went into the back and when he came back to the front of the bank, never said another word!" Imagine that................................ This is the second time I have been questioned about OC'ing and the second time I kept on OC'ing............. Gunny |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at Cheeburger for lunch and then next door at Bed Bath and Beyond with the wife. No problems. |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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OC'd while with the family in PartyCity across from VCC mall. Lots of people, hardly a stare. Interacted with several sales people looking for costume stuff. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Gunny5821 wrote:
Well done Gunny! Management apparently set the guard straight. Carry on - pun intended. Yata hey |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd today at some of the usual haunts.... $2.29 Dry Cleaners on West Broad First Market Bank/Ukrops in the Village Shopping Center no problems as usual... no one ever says a word to me but I sure do get good service! |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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OC'd at Ukrops across from VCC mall grabbing dinner yesterday. No problems. |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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OC'd at Bass Pro for a couple hours today. No problems. Also stopped at Wendy's at Parham/Brook and ate inside. A couple curious looks, but no comments. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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I OC'd this morning at Bass Pro. I know that at least 2-3 Hanover deputies saw me and not one word was said. |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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OC'd at Casa Grande across from VCC mall tonight for dinner with some friends. The only problem I had was I ate too much. No problems regarding the firearm. |
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curtiswr Regular Member
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Chiocca's in the Museum District Couple looks, few curious question-askers, no problems. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Phearson Dodge in Midlothian Home Depot in Chester Yata hey |
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Spectre Regular Member
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OC'd last night at Gander Mountain, and at Bass Pro Shop. No looks and no comments about my gun. My thinking was that everyone so so wrapped up in what they were doing that they wouldn't have noticed unless I walked around telling people I had the gun. One gentleman did comment on the quote of my Tree of Liberty t-shirt though so that was nice. Last edited on Sun Oct 5th, 2008 03:54 pm by Spectre |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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Spectre wrote: OC'd last night at Gander Mountain, and at Bass Pro Shop. No looks and no comments about my gun. My thinking was that everyone so so wrapped up in what they were doing that they wouldn't have noticed unless I walked around telling people I had the gun. One gentleman did comment on the quote of my Tree of Liberty t-shirt though so that was nice. I was at BP again last night wandering around. Surprised that I didnt run into you. I did run into a former student from our Utah class. That place was packed again and the restaurant had another 2 hour wait. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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After the Culpeper picnic, I picked up KFC on Patterson Avenue. The gentleman behind me in line asked me, "Are you enforcing the law or just exercising you rights as we all should do?" "Just" wasn't a fair description but the question did open a nice dialog between us. Yata hey |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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OC'd at Walmart at Parham and Brook yesterday. No troubles at all. Only a few glances. While checking out, a family from church got in line behind me. Their 12 year old sons eyes were like . They didn't know I owned, much less carried.We didn't have much time at the register to chat, but I imagine the conversation Sunday will be interesting. I teach the 12 year old Sunday school class. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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bnkrazy wrote: OC'd at Walmart at Parham and Brook yesterday. No troubles at all. Only a few glances. Great opportunity - hope it works well. Yata hey |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd today at: Ukrops at The Village 2 local gun stores UPS store Tuckahoe Library no issues |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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OC'd at the Hanover County Board mtg. last night and then at Food Lion at Parham and Brook. |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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Grapeshot wrote: bnkrazy wrote:OC'd at Walmart at Parham and Brook yesterday. No troubles at all. Only a few glances. I saw the son today at church for Scouts. Apparently Dad said I must do IT work for the FBI. |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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OC'd at Subway at Parham/Brook today for lunch. About 6 other customers. No problems. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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UPS Store First Market Bank Ukrops Chuck E. Cheese no issues |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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ProShooter wrote: Chuck E. Cheese Did you have fun? |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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bnkrazy wrote: ProShooter wrote:Chuck E. Cheese I did! They have a jet fighter game that is really pretty cool. |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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OC'd at Bass Pro, Gander Mtn and Walmart at Parham/ Brook. Nice employee at Bass Pro helped me find a few things. No problems. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Waffle House - W. Broad - old hat now Linens 'n Things - W. Broad - no prob. CVS - W. Broad near W. Tower Theater - no prob. & I understand that two somebodies saw "Body of Lies" - DNA/DNT Yata hey |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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Bass Pro - saw an older gentleman OC'ing a 1911 looking gun. Never got a chance to say hi. also was at: 7-11 Staples no problems! |
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richarcm Regular Member
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RICHMOND: Let's See.... Chipotle twice in Richmond. First time employee asked curiously about it. Didn't know that it was legal until someone had carried into the restaurant previously and explained it to him. Second time we walked in past two Henrico officers, I had one in line directly beside me and an additional lady officer came in afterwards. No big deal. Starbucks, Ukrops, Carytown, Kroger, Champps in Stony Point, Belle Isle, parking lot of Sarah Palin rally...all in Richmond. NOVA: Circuit City once back in Springfield. Had to pay a bill. Two employees walked past me and whispered something. I ignored it. Then they confronted me and asked me what I had. One just bought a gun and the other is a guy that always gives me crap because I'm always in there. The cashier also owns and has shot guns and was very interested. I mentioned having just come back from a Sarah Palin rally....they all walked away. Oh well.... |
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SicSemperTyrannis Regular Member
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richarcm wrote: RICHMOND: Chris forgot at least three places we open carried in Richmond... the WaWa in Glen Allen and For the Love of Chocolate and Carytown Coffee and Tea in Carytown. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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Bass Pro again Wawa on Staples Mill UPS store at Gayton Village Ukrops twice today and of course Zorba's - there was a whole bunch of guys there, with GUNS! |
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bruins499 Regular Member
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Chipotle and Food Lion no issues |
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skidmark Activist Member
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OK, this is a crass commercial plug. I admit it. OC'd Friday 10/17 at First Market Bank while opening "The Danbus Fund" http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/17367.html Not a word said about my OC 1911 - even when I had to scoot forward a bit because it was rubbing the arm of the chair as they were doing the paperwork to start "The Danbus Fund". http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/17367.html Now how often do you see an armed man coming into a bank to put money in? stay safe. skidmark |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member 
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skidmark wrote: OK, this is a crass commercial plug. I admit it. You're just shameless Paul.... |
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essayons Regular Member 
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OC'd for the first time besides the last OC dinner. Took the GF to 3 Monkeys on Main St. Kinda nervous but nothing happened. A curious glance from the table next to us, I was suprised that most people didn't even notice. I mean a 1911 in a serpa isn't exactly discreet. Goes to show you most ppls situational awareness. Anyway, OC'd at 3 monkeys - good food, a bit overpriced IMO, then a walk around the Fan. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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essayons wrote: OC'd for the first time besides the last OC dinner. Took the GF to 3 Monkeys on Main St. Kinda nervous but nothing happened. A curious glance from the table next to us, I was suprised that most people didn't even notice. I mean a 1911 in a serpa isn't exactly discreet. Goes to show you most ppls situational awareness. The more you OC the easier you'll feel with it. The easier you feel, the more you'll do it. Sort of a self-fullfilling prophesy. Try to relax and look people in the eye and nod and/or smile at them. Bg's tend to not do this - it helps to assure those that notice. Your nervousness will likely morph into heightened situational awareness in short order. Good show. Yata hey P.S. Check out breakfast on Sat. Oct. 25th http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/17560.html Last edited on Thu Oct 23rd, 2008 12:59 am by Grapeshot |
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RoyB Regular Member
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I volunteered to be an Officer of Elections in Richmond, which requires training. That was today, in Council chambers (and two other rooms) at City Hall. There were about 120 people in our group, plus of course dozens of City employees. I was OC the entire time. Precisely the correct reaction from all involved: not a mumblin' word! |
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essayons Regular Member
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Well, I wussed out on OCing at the Highland Games... mainly because I didn't want my 1911 exposed to all of the "Irish sunshine." But Hit up Carytown Ukrops and then Bottoms Up Pizza (on a sat. night). No reactions, I'm still very suprised. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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essayons wrote: Well, I wussed out on OCing at the Highland Games... mainly because I didn't want my 1911 exposed to all of the "Irish sunshine." +1 on the Irish sunshine. Did not see any No Weapons/guns signs but did see lots of swords, axes and dirks - none of them attacked me though. Yata hey |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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Sat, after the OC breakfast at the River City Diner I OCd at Gander Mountain while shopping with a friend for his first gun . He decided on a Mossberg 930...for HD and hunting use if needed. No problems OCing. Last edited on Mon Oct 27th, 2008 04:53 am by bnkrazy |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Who was the member/poster that saw Skidmark at the Highland Games on Sunday? On heavy side, gray beard, dark hair, indicated I know him. All that I can think of are accounted for. Yata hey Found him in picture files - hiding in plain sight. Last edited on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 03:23 pm by Grapeshot |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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10/26 Five Guy's on Centraila/ Iron Bridge in Chesterfield. |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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FoodLion at Brook/Parham again...with 5 year old daughter in the big shopping cart with the plastic car thing on the front. No issues, but I think she would have distracted most people with that blasted squeaky horn anyway. Last edited on Thu Oct 30th, 2008 03:02 am by bnkrazy |
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skidmark Activist Member
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Fun experiences at breakfast @ McDonald's @ Hopkins/Meadowbridge 10/30/08 - Had a nice white-haired old lady (customer, not employee) come up to me and ask "Do you have a permit for that?" Didn't even glance up at her, just sipped my coffee & said "Nope!" She said, just above a whisper, "You know you need to have a permit to have that." Dug out on of the OC cards [never leave home without one], handed it to her and smiled while saying "You might want to read this. Come on back afterwards." Well, she apparently did read it, as she came back a few minutes later and said she always thought one needed a permit to carry. She thanked me for the card and went on out. I waved & smiled [I know - scary sight ] as she was leaving.Even better was the old guy who walked by and gave me a thumbs-up. I invited him to sit & chat, and dug up a card for him & his son-in-law. Turns out he is a 70-year old Korean War vet. Listened to some stories of his time there and about living through the last Depression - got some good info on how to survive hard times. Then went to Woodfin Oil's main office on Mechanicsville Turnpike. Ended up having to go twice as the guy I needed to see was not in but arrived & called me within 5 minures of leaving. Walked through the maze of offices to his desk & back out again without any comment, but I know several folks (staff & customers) looked. No or or or from anybody, but at leat one from an older guy.Lunch with Grapeshot & helper at Sue's on Summit off Broad St. Chili was quite salty but otherwise a good time had by all. Going back to Cole Realty in Chester this afternoon to pick up the key to my new place. Expect no fuss as I have been there twice already with no problems. In other words, just another day in the neighborhood. stay safe. skidmark |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd at Bass Pro again today, my new home.... No issues |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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skidmark wrote: Fun experiences at breakfast @ McDonald's @ Hopkins/Meadowbridge 10/30/08 McDonald"s @ Hopkins & Meadowdale Blvd. is frequent recaffination point. Also on the list is the McDonald's in Carytown where my latest positive encounter took place on Friday 10/31. While waiting for the super fast food, a couple in their earily to mid 20s approached me. The young lady said she was a Va. Tech grad (I was wearing my VT hat) and asked if I was also. Explained that I wear the VT hat as my "never again" statement re the shootings. She told me that one of her professors died in that incident and opined that CHP holders probably would have saved lives. They went on to tell me that they had been to Israel and seen first hand what an armed society while being a polite society could do to protect themselves. It was a very good encounter and pointed out to me that their are Va. Tech people that are understanding of the real world. Only wish that I had thought to get contact information from them. Yata hey |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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First Market Bank/Ukrops at the Village (twice) UPS store on Gayton (twice) Verizon Store on West Broad Office Max store on West Broad no issues - the Verizon employee said that he felt safer with me being armed than with the unarmed 140 pound security guard there... |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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Grabbed some groceries in FoodLion at Parham/Brook again. No issues. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd for dinner at the Marshall Street Cafe, Marshall & Adams Sts. Friend was in town with a band that he works for.....sat right by the window where patrons could see the G23. Lots of folks in/out repeatedly smoking and using their cell phones. Not one odd look nor evil word spoken. |
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OCed at Greentop for a new holster, then stopped by Gander Mountain. They have a sign saying all guns must be unloaded and cased unless you are a CHP holder. Two of us OCing, neither with a CHP, no problems at all. Went in to Cici's, asked to leave after eating for a few minutes... Told the manager I wouldn't be back, he didn't seem to care. Also went down to Dominion (my buddy is looking at ARs) No issues what so ever, they guy at the counter checked out my 1911, said he hadn't seem one outfitted quite the same way (SA compact loaded lightweight with a stainless bull barrel) Also had a lady at the Citgo on Main st say to my buddy "I hope that's a flare gun" I turned my strong side to her and said "sorry, neither of them are." She didn't seem too happy... Oops. She was driving a Beetle and had on a shirt with a peace sign on it, we should have expected a comment. Overall a good day, no real issues other than Cici's. |
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leprechaun117 wrote: OCed at Greentop for a new holster, then stopped by Gander Mountain. They have a sign saying all guns must be unloaded and cased unless you are a CHP holder. Two of us OCing, neither with a CHP, no problems at all. Went in to Cici's, asked to leave after eating for a few minutes... Told the manager I wouldn't be back, he didn't seem to care. Also went down to Dominion (my buddy is looking at ARs) No issues what so ever, they guy at the counter checked out my 1911, said he hadn't seem one outfitted quite the same way (SA compact loaded lightweight with a stainless bull barrel) Also had a lady at the Citgo on Main st say to my buddy "I hope that's a flare gun" I turned my strong side to her and said "sorry, neither of them are." She didn't seem too happy... Oops. She was driving a Beetle and had on a shirt with a peace sign on it, we should have expected a comment. Overall a good day, no real issues other than Cici's. Which Cici's were you at? I've eaten in the Merchants Walk Cici's while OC and have never had a problem. The manager even spoke to me once about wanting to get his CHP |
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leprechaun117 Regular Member
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ProShooter wrote:leprechaun117 wrote:OCed at Greentop for a new holster, then stopped by Gander Mountain. They have a sign saying all guns must be unloaded and cased unless you are a CHP holder. Two of us OCing, neither with a CHP, no problems at all. Went in to Cici's, asked to leave after eating for a few minutes... Told the manager I wouldn't be back, he didn't seem to care. Also went down to Dominion (my buddy is looking at ARs) No issues what so ever, they guy at the counter checked out my 1911, said he hadn't seem one outfitted quite the same way (SA compact loaded lightweight with a stainless bull barrel) Also had a lady at the Citgo on Main st say to my buddy "I hope that's a flare gun" I turned my strong side to her and said "sorry, neither of them are." She didn't seem too happy... Oops. She was driving a Beetle and had on a shirt with a peace sign on it, we should have expected a comment. Overall a good day, no real issues other than Cici's. The one right next to Gander Mountain and Greentop. Conversation went as follows: Manager: "you guys are officers, right?" Me/buddy: "Nope." Manager: "Well then you can't have a loaded gun." Me/buddy: "By state law or by Cici's policy?" Manager : "You can't have a gun, only police officers can have loaded guns. You'll have to put them in the car." Me/buddy: "We'll be leaving then, and won't be back." Manager just walked away. Never stated if he was refering to Cici's policy or what he believed to be law. Either way they have lost my business. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Sounds like I'll be stopping by CiCi's next time I go to the Mountain - the manager might need a little more enlightenment. Yata hey |
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richarcm Regular Member
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Mmmmmm......CICIs!!!!!! |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Interesting event at Wal-Mart on Shelia Dr - off Forest Hill. Walked past regular sleepy eyed matron, who recognizing me smiled and nodded. I didn't see the new "patient first" type facility for which I was looking so presuming is was near the pharmacy, I asked two employess at the front if it was in fact near the pharmacy. They must have only understood "pharmacy" in my question because the directed me there. A few steps into my journey I heard, "Excuse me, EXCUSE me sir." Okay digtal recorder on, stop and turn, "Yes?" You can't bring that in here! What? I held up my bag (like a shaving kit) with my meds. No - with THAT! - pointing at my OCd 1911. Not feeling like (been sick) an extended conversation - I simply in my best DFWM voice said call your store manager ..now. She had me follow her to the opposite front end of the store, where she located her manager - she had been talking to someone on her cell phone all the way. As I approached them, the manager smiled, held out his hand and apologized for the inconvenience and said he hoped that I had not been overly embarrassed. We exchanged a few other pleasant words - he thanked me for my understanding and directed me to the new medical unit. The original "wolf crier" appeared to be getting a lecture as I departed. At the medical facility, I had a very pleasant on and off conversation with the nurse practitioner on handguns - she said she has a Glock. All in all not a bad experience but all I wanted was an antibiotic to kick this mess and go home and get back in bed. Yata hey |
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leprechaun117 wrote: Went in to Cici's, asked to leave after eating for a few minutes... Did you get your money back? I'd expect a refund if I were asked to leave an all-you-can-eat buffet. |
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Tosta Dojen wrote: leprechaun117 wrote:Went in to Cici's, asked to leave after eating for a few minutes... That's what I was thinking... great way to get a free meal. If they require you to leave without a refund or delivering the advertised service (all you can eat) then it would seem you have a legitimate complaint. That would be one way to get them to change their policy... eat almost all you want, then uncover... "sure, I'll leave, as soon as you refund my money!" ETA: "... or pack me up two or three of these here pizzas 'to go'!" TFred Last edited on Tue Nov 11th, 2008 07:00 am by TFred |
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Still fighting it Grape? Hope ya feel better soon. rat |
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riverrat10k wrote: Still fighting it Grape? Hope ya feel better soon. 'preciate it - will be first OC dinner missed since litter mates where pups. Do not want to pass it around though. Yata hey |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd tonight at Super King Buffet on West Broad St - no problems. |
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Grapeshot wrote: .... I simply in my best DFWM voice .... Okay, I give up... what's a DFWM voice? Hope you're feeling better.... |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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DFWM = "Don't 'fool' with me" or better choice of word as appropriate. Yata hey |
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Armed Regular Member
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Ahh.. got it. Sometimes I can't believe how clueless I can be at my age.... |
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curtiswr Regular Member
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Every employee in For The Love of Chocolate (Carytown) was giving me when I went in around closing time yesterday to pick up some Tootsie Pops. I've been in there plenty of times though and they always give the huge eyes and the stares. They should be used to me by now. Also OC'd at: Gander Mountain .. checking out the shotguns. Can't afford or be gifted an AR so I'll be getting a shotgun for Christmas Ellwood Thompson Whole Foods Last edited on Fri Nov 14th, 2008 04:31 am by curtiswr |
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sarcastyx Regular Member
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Hey everybody. I'm new here but have been sneaking around for a few weeks now. Just thought I'd share that the Apple place (MacPro) on Broad street is open carry friendly. Incase anyone out there with a Mac doesn't feel like dealing with Short Pump to get to the Apple store. Haven't carried in any of the other stores in the strip, but the manager at the Biglots isn't very pleasant so I'd be surprised if they did. Anyway thanks for all the great info on the site. |
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jmelvin Founder's Club Member
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I noticed a male unicorn wearing a black leather jacket carrying a Ruger GP100 revolver on the right hip side and a fixed blade knife on the left hip side when I visited the Ashland Bass Pro tonight. I would've open carried but when I started to put on and turn on my voice recorder in the parking lot I noted that the batteries were low, so I just CC'ed instead. If this was you in the Bass Pro it was good to see you open carrying. After leaving the Bass Pro my girlfriend and I headed down to the Carrabba's on Midlothian Turnpike (as we headed back to Lynchburg) where I OC'ed and had no issues there. I even interacted with the management who was handing out free food to those waiting and not a word was said. If only I'd had that same experience when visiting the Roanoke Carrabba's this spring. Last edited on Sun Nov 16th, 2008 05:35 am by jmelvin |
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Best Buy - Short Pump area Wal-Mart - Short Pump area Both fine. Cashier at Best Buy asked what was required to get the license to open carry and was shocked to find out that there was none. Seemed like a good type of shock though. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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Ukrops, Moe's - The Village Shopping Center A few odd looks, but nothing said. |
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Hey! New to the site and wanted to pass on my one time of having someone see my gun. I do not have a concealed permit *yet, waiting for it in the mail* so the only times I have my gun on me, is in my car (well when I could drive, I currently have a broken leg). I of course, open carry it in the seat beside me. Awhile back I went to the Greek Festival, and was driving into the drive through. For whatever odd reason the Richmond police are the ones who hand out the menus when you get into the drive through line. I pulled in, the officer comes to my window, says hello, goes to hand me my menu and says "Do I see a gun in the seat beside you?" My response (both hands on the wheel) Yes sir you do. Next question "Do I need to be worried?" No sir you don't. "Not even if I tell you there is no baklava available?" No sir you do not, I didn't want any anyway. "Alright have a nice day" I had a HUGE smile on my face during this entire exchange and was very impressed with the officer. |
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Been travelling back & forth to Chippenham since Friday 11/21 as the Lady Friend is now recovering from having a new knee implanted. Not sure if anybody has even noticed that I am OC-ing, but if so not a word has been said. stay safe. skidmark |
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Oc'd at my Suntrust branch the last few Saturdays. Bank staff was smiling and courteous as usual. A couple of ladies in line behind me were whispering, but I could not make anything out. I love Virginia. Sic semper tyrannus |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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Went to Shoney's at Staples Mill and Hilliard for lunch today, and then to the Radio Shack in the same shopping center to get my DTV converter box and rabbit ears. I'm done with cable. The Shoney's staff were very friendly and the lady at RS was polite and helpful as well. Asked if I was looking for something specific and walked me right to what I was looking for. No wide eyes or whispers anywhere. No crowds either. |
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Was in town for Thanksgiving. Before making the drive back up to NOVA I decided to stop by Sheetz at Broad and Glenside to get cheap gas, some chili mac and make a few phone calls. I walked in the door and immediately noticed either 2 LEOs or security officers standing by the front door. I really didn't want to stare them down so I didn't look too hard but just walked by them. They didn't notice the 1911. Went to the bathroom, ordered my food and went to pay for it. At this point they noticed. The older gentlemen moved closer to me and then asked if I was an officer. I told him no. I then noticed that he was security and he went onto tell me that he was a member of VCDL and supported what I was doing. Then as I was walking back to my truck at one of the pumps I noticed that one of my friends was pumping gas right next to where my truck was at. It took about 30 seconds but he finally noticed my "piece" and made comment. I made several trips around Richmond without any mention. I think I may have even made a LITTLE gain on my mom who is not a big friend of guns....most because she used to work for the VA State Police in Chesterfield. Apparently an officer once told her....YEARS AGO.....that if she wasn't willing to kill someone that she shouldn't carry because the gun would likely be taken from her and used against her. My mom is a WUSS so it kind of makes sense. But I explained to her that with practice she would get comforatble with a gun in her hands and that although killing anyone is never a wish and having to defend your actions in court never are either....if a guy comes after me wanting to kill me I'll gladly settle it all out in court afterwards. She kind of got the picture. Plus she lives in BFE Cumberland so I told her it would be good for bears too. A little fear never hurt nobody.... |
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Stopped at the River City Diner on Parham tonight -- we were at the beginning of an 8-mile traffic slowdown and needed gasoline and food. As I walked past the front of the diner, I pulled my sweater behind the gun, Virginia-tuck style, and apparently a couple of customers saw me. Nothing said until the waiter brought our check, and he asked "Do you carry a gun much?" I answered "Almost always" and that was the end of our exchange. |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd tonight at Outback at Robious and Hugunaut Road in Midlothian. No problems. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd today at: Virginia Credit Union, Glenside Dr Wawa, West Broad St. Friendly's Restaurant, West Broad UPS Store, Gayton Road and....just for laughs....Priscilla's Lingerie on West Broad! I have inquired of them on several occassions as to the reason for their "no concealed weapons" sign on their door. I was driving down West Broad today and passed by again. Since I had a few minutes, I decided to test the OC waters with them. I walked in, walked around the store for a minute, and inquired of the sales girl what they had for gag gifts for someone I know that recently got married. The sales girl gave my gun the double take but not a word was said. I was in there all of about 10 minutes, walking around. None of the other staff or customers even blinked. I must have laughed for 15 minutes afterwards as I drove away. |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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OCd today at Wendy's at Parham/Brook. No troubles. |
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richarcm Regular Member
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ProShooter wrote: OC'd today at:Its almost too bad Priscilla's didn't say anything. You must go in there a bit to know what is said on the sign. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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richarcm wrote: Its almost too bad Priscilla's didn't say anything. You must go in there a bit to know what is said on the sign. Nope, never been in that store. We just use their sign in one of our classes. A former student alerted me to their policy about a year ago. I was actually hoping that they would say something. No one ever says anything to me, anywhere that I go. |
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TFred Regular Member
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Please help me, I'm confused... doesn't "no concealed weapons" simply mean you have to emply the Virginia Tuck while inside the store? TFred |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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TFred wrote: Please help me, I'm confused... doesn't "no concealed weapons" simply mean you have to emply the Virginia Tuck while inside the store? No concealed weapons means that you need to open carry. |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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ProShooter wrote: TFred wrote:Please help me, I'm confused... doesn't "no concealed weapons" simply mean you have to emply the Virginia Tuck while inside the store? In other words, yeah. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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bnkrazy wrote: ProShooter wrote:TFred wrote:Please help me, I'm confused... doesn't "no concealed weapons" simply mean you have to emply the Virginia Tuck while inside the store? Yes but........ There are those that contend that the "Virginia tuck" does not qualify as open carry because the phrase is not found in statute law. While I really do not wish to reopen that debate, ask yourself whether your gun is visible and easily identifiable for what it is. IMO Va tuck = OC. Yata hey Last edited on Sun Dec 7th, 2008 04:10 am by Grapeshot |
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TFred Regular Member
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Grapeshot wrote: Yes but........ Oh, I was not meaning to imply any particular significance to the term, beyond its widespread use as a colloquialism for "open carry". I was really just trying to make sure I was not the only one who strongly suspects that these particular folks are not saying what they probably think they are saying with a sign worded that way. If I were a betting man, I would guess that they have no idea that Open Carry is perfectly legal in Virginia. It is quite amusing to read of incidents of following their request to the letter, and then observing their reactions. TFred |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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TFred wrote: Oh, I was not meaning to imply any particular significance to the term, beyond its widespread use as a colloquialism for "open carry". and that was precisely my intent by going in there....... I believe (my opinion) that their intent was for no weapons. Just like many other things, they just used a term that sounded cool or one that they believed meant what they wanted to say....but it didnt. I had really hoped to be challenged but alas, despite the fact that this store sold various reproductions of male anatomical parts, there wasnt a set of balls to be had by the employees. |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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OC'd at SAMs club. Picked up some photos and some food. Put some cash in the bell-dinger's can. Good times. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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Starbucks, Brook Road UPS Store, Gayton Bass Pro no issues. |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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Food Lion at Parham/Brook. No issues. Had a nice conversation with the girl at the register. I saw her eyes grow wide and she took a step back. Cashier: "Is that what I think it is?" Me: "Probably" Lady in line behind me: "Oh, that's OK to have as long as you have a permit right?" Me: "Actually, a permit is needed to carry concealed, but OCing is legal without a permit...a few more details, etc." Cashier / Lady in line behind me: "I didn't know that. / That's nice. / Guns are good to have." I only regret not having any OCDO cards to hand out. I'm in there all the time though so I'll give one to the cashier at least when I'm in there next time. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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This week.... Virginia Credit Union First Market Bank/Ukrops UPS Store Islamorada Fish Company Restaurant Bass Pro all my usual haunts... |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd today at: Chianti Restaurant, Gayton Crossing shopping center for dinner Cracker Barrel country store No issues |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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OCd everywhere I went this week-end (normal): Best Buy, Circuit City, Wal-Mart, Bass Pro, K-Mart, Cracker Barrel, Stein Mart to name a few. Absolutely no problems. Did have what I thought was a positive encounter though. A young man came up to me at K-Mart (Glenside & Broad) and ask me if I was on the open carry blog. We talked a bit and I made a mental note of his screen name - said he joined about 2 weeks ago. When I got home, I searched for him and found there wasn't anything close to the screen name he gave me. Guess I was conned but it was a good conversation. Yata hey |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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OC'd at Texas Roadhouse the other night, several glances, one excited ~11 year old telling his parents, no issues. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd today at: Bass Pro Brook Road, DMV (story) Brook Road Wawa Gayton Road UPS store I walked in to the DMV with some plates to turn in. Walked through the sea of people to the customer service counter. The tin star with the wheel gun took one look at me and nearly shat himself. He picked up the phone and get this, turned his back to me! (TACTIDUMB). He must have been calling someone asking for permission to soil his drawers. Imagine that, IF I was going to shoot the place up, why on Earth would you turn your back to me? S T U P I D . Anyway, the clerk took my plates and said that I didnt need to wait. I strolled on out with a few people just looking. |
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TFred Regular Member
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ProShooter wrote: OC'd today at: Obviously, if he can't see you, then you can't see him! TFred |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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OC'd at Richmonda Camera at Broad/Madison a couple times the past week. Walmart, Food Lion, Wendy's at Brook/Parham |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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TFred wrote: Obviously, if he can't see you, then you can't see him! Anyone not here, raise your hand.......... |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd at Starbucks, Brook Road - no issues |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Suntrust bank on Jefferson Davis - in line waiting for next teller - lady says what is that, pointing at my dbl mag case - I turned the other hip = . Yata hey |
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dizzysmurf03 Regular Member
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Grapeshot wrote: OCd everywhere I went this week-end (normal): Best Buy, Circuit City, Wal-Mart, Bass Pro, K-Mart, Cracker Barrel, Stein Mart to name a few. Absolutely no problems. The young man would be me. I've been wrapped up with work and holidays, so it must have slipped my mind to post here about speaking with you at K-Mart. Nice conversation and very positive for me, being that I'm fairly new to carrying. (I now OC and CC) Hopefully I'll be able to make it to one of the local dinners. It would be great to meet everyone around the area and chat. Here's wishing everyone a wonderful new year. John. |
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skidmark Activist Member
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Went grocery shopping at the Kroger at Rt 10 & Jeff Davis. Not a word or look until I got to the checkout. Young lady working the register made a favorable comment on the "GUNS SAVE LIVES" pin on my jacket, which caused the young man bagging my goodies to look up and notice what was on my hip. He asked what kind of gun it was, and was genuinely surprised to learn that wheelguns come in .45acp (S&W 325PD with mammoth ivory stocks). The young lady commented that the "handles" were pretty. *blush* Gave the young lady my button and told the youngman I would give him one if he wanted to walk out to the car with me. (OK, cheap ploy to get him to push the cart.) Gave him a button & a VCDL brochure for him & 1 for the young lady. He was so exited he started filling his out right there. Hopefully they will 1) be allowed to wear their buttons at least for the rest of tonight, 2) wear their buttons at school - at least till the Powers That BeTM tell them it is a no-no, and 3) that they sign up with VCDL. stay safe. skidmark |
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dizzysmurf03 wrote: Grapeshot wrote:OCd everywhere I went this week-end (normal): Best Buy, Circuit City, Wal-Mart, Bass Pro, K-Mart, Cracker Barrel, Stein Mart to name a few. Absolutely no problems. Its not nice to harass the elderly, Dizzysmurf...  |
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dizzysmurf03 Regular Member
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skidmark wrote: Went grocery shopping at the Kroger at Rt 10 & Jeff Davis. Not a word or look until I got to the checkout. Young lady working the register made a favorable comment on the "GUNS SAVE LIVES" pin on my jacket, which caused the young man bagging my goodies to look up and notice what was on my hip. He asked what kind of gun it was, and was genuinely surprised to learn that wheelguns come in .45acp (S&W 325PD with mammoth ivory stocks). The young lady commented that the "handles" were pretty. *blush*What time was this? I don't remember seeing anyone OC'ing while I was working. Next time you're there, stop by the frozen food dept. and ask for John. (the guy with the pony tail. lol) I'm usually there the first half of the day. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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dizzysmurf03 wrote: Grapeshot wrote:Did have what I thought was a positive encounter though. A young man came up to me at K-Mart (Glenside & Broad) and ask me if I was on the open carry blog. We talked a bit and I made a mental note of his screen name - said he joined about 2 weeks ago. When I got home, I searched for him and found there wasn't anything close to the screen name he gave me. Guess I was conned but it was a good conversation. Ok - that explains it - I had the screen name wrong. Welcome aboard You work at Kroger too - when do you sleep? Have an OC dinner coming up the 13th of Jan. at Topeka's on Parham Rd. You'd meet some more of the local choir if you could make it. http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/20129.html Yata hey Last edited on Sun Jan 4th, 2009 03:22 am by Grapeshot |
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KnightSG7 Regular Member 
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Havnt really posted in this area at all yet, so its time to start. Autozone on 360 and Genito a couple of times. No issues. Blockbuster on 360. No issues Walmart on 360 passed 6 Chesterfield officers strong side, no reactions. I just get alot of questions from people (being 18 and all) "you have to be 21 for that!" so on and so fourth. |
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dizzysmurf03 Regular Member
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OC'd at Long John Silver in Hopewell today, no problems. Also just got back a while ago from the Food Lion on 156 in Prince George. No problems there either. |
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spitfyr Regular Member
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I have lurked on this board and watched this thread specifically for a couple years now. Never took the time to join and post until tonight. Anyway I have OC'd all over this town with zero problems yet. Occasional looks and comments of course. Only place I ever got one of those "quiet phonecalls to the boss" was in the Kroger at the top of carytown. Young girl, new employee perhaps, who probably just didnt know the law or the company policy. Manager never appeared. Although I CC much more than I OC these days I will make a point to OC more and contribute to this thread whenever I can. OC can only be a good thing for this uptight town. Like most of you I am a law abiding CHP holding citizen who is more than happy to set the record straight when necessary. Only time I saw someone OC around here lately was at the mid-carytown 7-11. I love the sight of a holstered Kimber in the morning. Seeing that woke me up better than the coffee |
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dizzysmurf03 Regular Member
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OC'd at Phil's Transmission and Auto Repair on 460 in Petersburg this morning. Dropped my wife's car off to have a new motor installed. Nobody in the office said a word about my sidearm. The shop owner even gave me a ride home. He never gave it a second look or made an issue of it the whole ride back. Everyone was very friendly, and I'd give them a big thumbs up. |
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dizzysmurf03 - to my limited knowledge, you just doubled the known OC population in Hopewell. By the way, Phil does good work, never had a problem with any of the work he's done for me. Last edited on Mon Jan 5th, 2009 11:24 pm by SFDoc |
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dizzysmurf03 Regular Member
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Always nice to hear good things about the people who are tearing the engine out of your car. I've been OC'ing more than usual lately. Normally I carry IWB when I'm out and about, mainly because I'm usually with my wife, and she's not so crazy about me being stopped and questioned or hassled while we're trying to run errands. I know this kind of contradicts one of the messages sent by open carry, to get people accustomed to seeing armed citizens on a regular basis. Anyhow, it's nice to know I'm not the only one in Hopewell. One of these days we'll have to meet up for coffee. |
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dizzysmurf03 wrote: Always nice to hear good things about the people who are tearing the engine out of your car. Sounds good. Keep a watch for Richmond OC Breakfast - most Saturday mornings. Boots / Hip waders are often recommended. Wives are welcomed, especially if my wife goes. As she puts it, she would love to have another adult to chat with. You and the wife may want to try one of our OC dinners as well: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/20129.html In time your wife may come around. Mine was the same way, now carries almost as much as I do. |
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bnkrazy wrote: Food Lion at Parham/Brook. No issues. LOL. But your response really should have been: "No, I'm just happy to see you." |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd at the Starbucks on Brook Rd today. Parked next to an unmarked state police car, with 19 antennas and a spot light I know the Trooper saw me when I walked in the store. Walked in to talk to someone and get a cup of coffee. About 5 minutes later, the Trooper walked in, got a cup of coffee, looked at me standing there, smiled and walked out...another non-issue. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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ProShooter wrote: OC'd at the Starbucks on Brook Rd today. Parked next to an unmarked state police car, with 19 antennas and a spot light Maybe it took him 5 min. to run your plates and W&W on primary driver. Yata hey |
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Grapeshot wrote: Maybe it took him 5 min. to run your plates and W&W on primary driver. Cant very well run plates when you are parked next to the truck...haha! |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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Went out with a friend, he OC'd Target at Libbie & Broad. No Looks Nothin' : ) |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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ClumsyCandy wrote: Went out with a friend, he OC'd Target at Libbie & Broad. No Looks Nothin' : ) Welcome to our world ClumsyCandy. Get more exposure and meet like minded people at Sat. morning breakfasts, monthly OC dinners and of course Lobby Day. Would help those replying to your posts in the future if you would add your city & state location to your profile. Yata hey |
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dizzysmurf03 Regular Member
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OC'd at Huddle House in Hopewell last night. Nobody even noticed until I went to the counter to pay the bill. One of the waitresses saw it and jokingly said "I see you've got your gun, don't shoot me, ok?" I chuckled and told her I wouldn't. Then my waitress looked down and saw it, and said "wow, I never even noticed that you had a gun" Then the other waitress asked if I was a cop, to which I said no. Her reply was "oh, ok. You're just licensed to carry one" I told her "well, I do have a permit to conceal my gun, but there's actually no license required to open carry" I think that comment took her a bit by surprise. She just replied with "oh..... ok, that's cool I guess." and finished ringing up my ticket. All in all it was a good experience. I'll have to give her an info card next time I'm in there. |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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Went to the Walgreens on Parham and Three Chopt last night with the girlfriend to pick up a few things. As soon as we entered, the rent-a-cop saw my sidearm and requested that I left it in the car (she said that it would make people uncomfortable, and I might scare someone. I think she was jealous because she's not allowed to carry ). I then said that I would leave, but politely requested to speak with the manager first. Waited a few minutes, and the manager came out. Young woman, looked to be mid-20's or so. I informed her that the security guard requested me to leave my legally carried sidearm in my vehicle, and I then asked her if this was company policy, or just the opinion of the security guard. She never gave me a straight answer. Flip-flopped around for a few minutes or so saying "I would prefer it if you left it in the car", with me following up with "Well I have to know if I can or can't carry in your store, because I don't want to trespass on your property". She then asked if I had a "permit". I told her that I had a permit to carry a concealed firearm on my person, but I didn't need one because I wasn't concealing. After I said I had a permit, the manager said that it was ok to carry (if I was making people "uncomfortable" what difference would it make if I had a permit or not?). The security guard then asked to see my permit. I declined, stating that she was not a sworn police officer, and could not legally request to see my permit, and the manager then asked me to leave. Ended up going to the Kroger down the street (I always carry there, no problems) and got everything I needed! I got the managers name and all that, so I might call Walgreens corporate sometime tomorrow and see what their policy is. From what I saw, the security guard was most definitely speaking for the manager, and a manager should speak for themselves. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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I've OC'd and CC'd there before and never heard a word from anyone. I may have to take a ride down there as its a few blocks from my house. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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That particular Walgreens is on my regular route - near GF's place. Every time I've been in there and that is frequently, I've been OCing and never heard a peep - security was present some of the times. Been back to the pharmacy area et al. Yata hey |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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OC'd at Fuddruckers for dinner tonight. Good food, place was all but empty. Hardly a glance. Staff was nice as usual, even got a free side order of fries. |
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Xd Fan Regular Member
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Has anyone OC'd at Bone Fish ? Problems ? |
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leprechaun117 Regular Member
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Xd Fan wrote:Has anyone OC'd at Bone Fish ? Problems ? Same corporate as Cheeseburger In Paradise, which is known to be anti-carry. No personal experience though. |
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bnkrazy wrote: OC'd at Fuddruckers for dinner tonight. Good food, place was all but empty. Hardly a glance. Staff was nice as usual, even got a free side order of fries. I never have had a problem carrying there. The cute register even gives me a little wink every so often which is nice . |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Among other places, I OCd at the Walgreen's at Parham & Three Chopt where mercutio545 had the problem on the 14th. Spent maybe 5 min. in the store selecting my purchases. Only problem I had was the cashier requested my birth date for cigarette purchase. Told her 1908 and she accepted and entered that in the register. Yata hey |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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Grapeshot wrote: Only problem I had was the cashier requested my birth date for cigarette purchase. Told her 1908 and she accepted and entered that in the register. 1908? being a bit generous to yourself on the years, aren't ya Grape? |
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Spectre Regular Member
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ProShooter wrote: Grapeshot wrote:Only problem I had was the cashier requested my birth date for cigarette purchase. Told her 1908 and she accepted and entered that in the register. Your only as young as you feel.  |
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bnkrazy Campaign Veteran
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We were running late so we missed the RCD breakfast this AM, so instead we went to BurgerKing for a quick bite. No issues OCing. For lunch we ate at Wall Street Deli at 8th and Franklin, as did about 100 other people from the rally. Good food. |
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Squid699 Regular Member
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New to the forum, and I'm not sure if it's been covered in here yet: Crab Louie's in Sycamore Square, Midlothian is OC friendly. I've gotten this cleared straight from the owner. His response was: "Well, police officers carry in here, so why shouldn't anyone else?" I just smiled. If anyone does give you crap, ask to speak with Bruce (owner). |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Squid699 wrote: New to the forum, and I'm not sure if it's been covered in here yet: Welcome. Enjoy the benefits they are many. We generally employ the "don't ask" philosophy. I've never gotten a negative reply to a question not asked. Yata hey |
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Squid699 Regular Member
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I'm an employee.....I was just making sure where his stance is....some of his managers are a little flighty. |
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Squid699 wrote: I'm an employee.....I was just making sure where his stance is....some of his managers are a little flighty. Now that is refreshing! Love friendly employers - I won't ask so you don't have to tell, at least not in public. Watch for our Sat. morning breakfasts - you might enjoy. Yata hey |
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Squid699 Regular Member
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Not trying to insinuate anything about my co-workers; they just may not be as well-informed as the rest of us. |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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We spent the night in Richmond after Lobby Day yesterday (attempting to avoid the miserable inauguration traffic which didn't materialize). For dinner, went to Cracker Barrel at I-295 and Midlothian Tpke. Nearly done when server sees spouse's OC'd gun (I was wearing a jacket, and didn't unconceal). Says "Wow, now that's a big gun". Spouse was carrying a Kimber ultracompact .45, but in a Serpa holster that makes it appear the barrel is 7-8" long. Anyway, server informed us she owns a .38 special snubbie, and carries it at night. Spouse tells her we don't presume danger is always at night. Pleasant encounter, but then I've never had an issue at a Cracker Barrel. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd tonight at Buffalo Wild Wings on West Broad tonight for dinner. Even shot some pool afterwards where numerous staff members walked back and forth past me. Not a word was said. |
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vt357 Regular Member
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ProShooter wrote: OC'd tonight at Buffalo Wild Wings on West Broad tonight for dinner. Even shot some pool afterwards where numerous staff members walked back and forth past me. Not a word was said. That's funny. I OC'ed at the BW3s on Hull St. last night. No probs (except for those terrible karaoke singers ) |
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vt357 wrote: ProShooter wrote:OC'd tonight at Buffalo Wild Wings on West Broad tonight for dinner. Even shot some pool afterwards where numerous staff members walked back and forth past me. Not a word was said. haha, my only problem was that the food was a bit slow coming out and the drink refills were like an endangered species. |
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Hey guys and gals! I'm new to this site and to open carrying. Yesterday was my first day helping promote gun rights by open carrying. My friend and I visited Bass Pro Shops, greeter was friendly, no double takes, and overall no problems (just the way I wanted for my first time). We stopped at wal-mart in Mechanicsville next, walked to the sporting goods section, and waited about 15 minutes for the clerk to ring up a man buying about 50 different fishing baits. During this time, another clerk had passed me and my friend, he then left the section, but then a few minutes later came back to counter to assist us. No words were exchanged about us open carrying, however I was getting a vibe that he was rushing us and just wanted us to leave. Besides him telling me the wrong price on the box of ammo, no problems. Overall, yesterday was a good first experience. Was extremely nervous, but I wanted to help the cause by getting people to realize that we are not the bad guys. This is a great website, and I am looking forward to future posts! |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Welcome aboard hellfogg Lots of good people and information here. I see you've already done the Wally World thing. Check out our local OC dinner on the 2nd Tuesday of each month. Info posted a week or so in advance. See some pictures on link below. http://vagrapeshot.multiply.com/ Yata hey |
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Thanks for the welcome Grapeshot! The OC dinner looks pretty cool. I'll see if I can get some of my friends to come along too. Keep me updated! |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Cracker Barrel on Rt. 10 & I-95 for breakfast and Joy Garden on W. Broad St. for dinner - no problems - good food at both. Yata hey |
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riverrat10k Regular Member
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OC'd at SunTrust on Forest Hill this weekend. Always welcome Oc'd tonight at Food Line on Forest Hill, no issues. Still think my little .38 in the Fobus looks like a cell phone! |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd last night at Friendly's on West Broad. No issues |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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Misfire... Redirect Last edited on Tue Feb 3rd, 2009 02:48 am by ProShooter |
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riverrat10k Regular Member
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OC'd in 7-11 on Forest Hill Ave. last night. No issues. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd at Hooters on West Broad tonight...no issues. |
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OC'd at 7-11 and Ukrop's on Forest Hill tonight. No issues. At Ukrops, maybe one as I was leaving and maybe a little vibe from the prepared food lady, but I was gracious and polite as always so no real prob. |
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OC'd at Waffle House on W. Broad Sat. morning with Grapeshot and Skidmark. Highlight of the morning was the visit from what appeared to be a VCU cheering squad. On to SunTrust bank , no issues. Bon Air Animal Hospital for dog meds, no issues but not sure if the owner saw it or not . Nothing was said . The assistant certainly saw the gun. Not sure if Crazy Cat Lady noticed it or not. OC'd in the woods Sunday morn., and at 7-11 again (gotta quit smoking). Sure enjoyed the weather this weekend! |
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OC'd at Wal-Mart and Unos on Hull Street yesterday with livitup. My first OC experience, and no problems. The wife told me that everyone was watching closely in Uno's , but nobody said anything. Oh, and of course at the gun show in Richmond, but no problems there. Last edited on Mon Feb 9th, 2009 03:19 pm by cafemonkey |
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OC'd @ Mcdonalds across from the Richmond International Speedway on Sunday after leaving the gun show. |
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hellfogg Regular Member
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OC'd at the Mechanicsville Target. No problems. |
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Buzz and Ned's BBQ on Boulevard. The place was packed, BBQ is delicious, no problems. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd for lunch today at Tony's Grill & Pizzeria in Ashland today (ABC on) No problems. Also OC'd at the barber shop in the center of town without an issue.... |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at Bass Pro before the OC RIC dinner and OC'd at Green Top after the OC dinner. No problems. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd for lunch today at the Taco Bell, Broad and Bethlehem...no issues. |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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Seems like someone else doesn't like us "pistoleros"... Was in the mood for some Mexican food last night, so the girlfriend and I went to Don Papa Grande on Broad st., at West Tower (by the movie theater there). Walked in, ordered our drinks, then a few minutes later, the lady came up to us and said that it was against company policy to have a gun and that I would have to leave. I said "no problem", left, went to Mexico, and had a great meal. We started going to Don Papa Grande because it was closer (and they have that awesome white sauce ), but I remember that whenever we used to go to Mexico, OC was always welcomed. I think that from now on I'll drive a few extra miles to give my money to people who deserve it more. You'd think that for someone who tried so hard to immigrate to the USA that they would be more supportive of our basic right to defend ourselves . |
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mercutio545 wrote: Seems like someone else doesn't like us "pistoleros"... Just another area business to add to the DNP list! It still amazes me that with the economy what it is, people would turn away good business. |
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OCd at Tripps on W. Broad St. Valentine's Day evening. No problems and had a good conversation with D.C. resident at the bar. Other uneventful OC stops last week included: Taco Bell, Home Depot, Waffle House, Pet Smart, 7-11, North Carolina Furniture, Wal-Mart, Walgreens, Ukrops, Sherwin-Williams, Duron, Krispy Kreme, K-Mart, Lawrence Dodge, Verizon Wireless - mostly between Staples Mill Rd. & Short Pump on W. Broad St. Yata hey |
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riverrat10k Regular Member
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OC'd with Grapeshot at the Broad Street Waffle House Sat. Received payback for last weeks treat of the VCU cheer squad when two three hundred pound women wearing spandex walked in. Eww. Last edited on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 02:09 pm by riverrat10k |
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vt357 Regular Member
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Over the past week I OC'ed at the Walmart on Forest Hill Ave, Lowes on Hull St, and the Tropical Smoothie on Hull St. at Commonwealth Parkway. No problems at any of the locations. There was a state trooper at Tropical Smoothie, but I don't think he ever saw my handgun (not that I expected any problems as the state police are very professional). |
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Rampid469 Regular Member 
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Guys, I am new to the discussion forum. Just joining today... I OC'd for the first time today at WAWA on Iron Bridge & Cogbill. No problems! I lost my virginity today! LOL! Feels great... |
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Tess Founder's Club Member
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Rampid469 wrote: Guys, I am new to the discussion forum. Just joining today... Congratulations!! Welcome to OCDO! |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Rampid469 wrote: Guys, I am new to the discussion forum. Just joining today... Congratulations and welcome aboard! Hope you enjoy your association here and profit from it as I have. We have monthly OC dinners (family oriented) each month on the 2nd Tuesday and OC breakfasts (tend to be smaller groups) each Sat. Look for the postings and come join us for a pleasant group experience. Yata hey |
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vt357 Regular Member
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Rampid469 wrote: Guys, I am new to the discussion forum. Just joining today... Welcome! I have OC'ed a couple times at the East Coast station across the street. It's nice to add another Chesterfield OC'er. |
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leprechaun117 Regular Member
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Carried all over richmond over the weekend. Greentop, Domimion (head guy was fairly rude... Made me and a buddy draw and show him our guns were clear in the middle of the store... Real safe...) New restaurant at Broad and Goshen (right across from vcu campus) super cool guys running it, awesome food, no problem with two young guys OCing. Eta: The restaurant is called Bo Dillaz... Quesadillas and the like, bbq grilled chicken is excellent! Last edited on Tue Feb 17th, 2009 02:11 am by leprechaun117 |
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riverrat10k Regular Member
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Rampid469 wrote: Guys, I am new to the discussion forum. Just joining today... Welcome rampid. Oh yeah, I forgot. Oc'd at WAWA on Iron Bridge & Cogbill last week. On my way home from work so I OC there about once every week or so. Very busy spot. |
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riverrat10k Regular Member
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OC'd at Lowe's Tuesay night 2-17 and Food Line last night 2-18. Both off Forest Hill. No one confronted me. |
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sarcastyx Regular Member
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Hey everybody. I was curious if anyone had carried at the Famous Dave's on west broad? If so how'd it go Thanks Last edited on Mon Feb 23rd, 2009 07:11 pm by sarcastyx |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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sarcastyx wrote: Hey everybody. I was curious if anyone had carried at the Famous Dave's on west broad? If so how'd it go Many, many times and nary a problem. Yata vhey |
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sarcastyx Regular Member
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Thanks for the response. Surprising though, my wife decided to call ahead (probably a bad idea) and the manager told her they didn't allow it. She doesn't remember his name ("Rob, Ron, Bob, maybe?"). thanks |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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sarcastyx wrote: Thanks for the response. Surprising though, my wife decided to call ahead (probably a bad idea) and the manager told her they didn't allow it. She doesn't remember his name ("Rob, Ron, Bob, maybe?"). You NEVER call ahead and ask! What did she think they'd say? Business: Hello, Joe's Restaurant Caller: Yes, hi, I'm coming there for dinner tonight and I wanted to find out if it was ok to bring a gun? Business: A Gun? Oh no, no guns are allowed. CLICK |
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sarcastyx Regular Member
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Yeah, I know I know. She said she wanted to make sure my gun wasn't going to get between her and her ribs... |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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sarcastyx wrote: Thanks for the response. Surprising though, my wife decided to call ahead (probably a bad idea) and the manager told her they didn't allow it. She doesn't remember his name ("Rob, Ron, Bob, maybe?"). Never, never ask permission - it scares them - they fear the "liability" for giving "permission" so many will say "No" just to be safe- that doesn't make sense does it. If no signs to the contrary, simply go in, be seated and order. If asked to leave or put the gun in your car, eat elsewhere but let them politely know why. At Famous Dave's on W. Broad Street, I have sat at the bar OCing while I waited for carry-out at least 12-15 times, eaten there at least twice that number and 3-4 of these were with groups of 3-5 OCers. The staff was always very cordial and they were happy to take my money. I will take the opportunity to go back some time this week just to reconfirm - maybe tomorrow for lunch. Yata hey |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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sarcastyx wrote: Yeah, I know I know. She said she wanted to make sure my gun wasn't going to get between her and her ribs... Well, if you keep it in the holster and don't stick her in the side with the muzzle, that shouldn't be an issue! |
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sarcastyx Regular Member
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ProShooter wrote:sarcastyx wrote:Yeah, I know I know. She said she wanted to make sure my gun wasn't going to get between her and her ribs... How do you spell a "rim-shot". |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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As a follow up to Famous Dave's on W. Broad St. as reported above: Did get by there at 4:45PM 3/24 for an early dinner. OC'd a Commander 1911 and two extra mags. No problems at any time - our server did notice on about her third trip to the table but her glance showed no real reaction. I was intentionally sitting strong side out in a booth in the bar area. After finishing a delicious meal of beef brisket (ate too much) I asked to see the manager. At that point, we had been there over an hour. About the same time as the manager (Jason) arrived, Matt who knows me by sight walked by and spoke - we exchanged a few pleasant words - that didn't hurt my conversation with Jason a bit. I asked Jason if I had been any problem to them this evening. That caused him some confusion at first which was my intention. Further I asked him what his knowledge was of carrying in restaurants that sold alcohol for consumption on premises. At that point he glanced down and saw mine - no major response. He replied, "Only that you can not carry and drink." So the lessons began and he was very receptive and took particular heed to my suggestion that any future caller/patron simply be told that we honor the laws of the state in which we are located. Referred him to both this site and VCDL. The conversation overall was very cordial and productive. Jason expressed that he hoped that we continued to visit their restaurant, we would always be welcome to do so. IMO - Famous Dave's is gun friendly still. Yata hey Last edited on Wed Feb 25th, 2009 01:51 am by Grapeshot |
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sarcastyx Regular Member
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Quite the diplomat. Yeah from now on, calling ahead is for seating only |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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Grapeshot wrote: As a follow up to Famous Dave's on W. Broad St. as reported above: Perhaps an OC dinner there is in order. Show them that we support their business in return for their support of our right (and theirs) to carry. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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ProShooter wrote: Grapeshot wrote:IMO - Famous Dave's is gun friendly still. Unfortunately their seating arrangement - fixed booths or small round tables - is not conducive to a large group - 3 or 4 to a booth or table does not make for good conversation amongst the rest of the attendees. I have and will continue to go there with a smaller group of 3-4. Have eaten there with another member and PaPatriot when he was in town twice now - all three OCing. Yata hey |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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Grapeshot wrote: ProShooter wrote:Grapeshot wrote:IMO - Famous Dave's is gun friendly still. That's too bad about the seating. I always like to eat close to home. |
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sarcastyx wrote: Quite the diplomat. Yeah from now on, calling ahead is for seating only Only after first testing the waters with 2 or 3 OCers and reporting no problems and checking out the seating arrangements et al. We ask that this be done for any new future location suggested for our monthly OC dinners. We never walk blindly into an establishment for a planned event. Yata hey |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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ClumsyCandy wrote: Hey! New to the site and wanted to pass on my one time of having someone see my gun. I do not have a concealed permit *yet, waiting for it in the mail* so the only times I have my gun on me, is in my car (well when I could drive, I currently have a broken leg). I of course, open carry it in the seat beside me. Awhile back I went to the Greek Festival, and was driving into the drive through. For whatever odd reason the Richmond police are the ones who hand out the menus when you get into the drive through line. I pulled in, the officer comes to my window, says hello, goes to hand me my menu and says "Do I see a gun in the seat beside you?" My response (both hands on the wheel) Yes sir you do. Next question "Do I need to be worried?" No sir you don't. "Not even if I tell you there is no baklava available?" No sir you do not, I didn't want any anyway. "Alright have a nice day" Welcome Katherine! We're happy to have you here! |
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LOL Thanks! Can't wait to start carrying now that I am down to one crutch and have a "strong side" again! |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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ClumsyCandy wrote: LOL Thanks! Can't wait to start carrying now that I am down to one crutch and have a "strong side" again! Carry every day, it'll help strengthen the leg! |
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riverrat10k Regular Member
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OC'd at Wawa Rt 10 and Cogbill, Food Line on Forest Hill. Lots of at Food Line but nothing was said to me. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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OCd at Patient First on Midlothian near Providence Rd. & WalMart on Shelia Dr. No comments, no problems. Yata hey |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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Hope they did something to make you feel better! |
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essayons Regular Member
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Strawberry street cafe for dinner... no problems, but I doubt anyone even noticed the 1911 with the lighting in there. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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No power this AM so ate breakfast at Hank's BBQ on Jeff Davis. Welcomed as always OCing - great breakfast! Yata hey |
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Icetera Regular Member 
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leprechaun117 wrote: Carried all over richmond over the weekend. Greentop, Domimion (head guy was fairly rude... Made me and a buddy draw and show him our guns were clear in the middle of the store... Real safe...) I cannot say I have ever seen him (I believe I know who you are referring to) do that, other than with some mishandling shotguns. I noticed a number of people mentioning that they OC at the Waffle House at Broad and Glenside. I am usually OCed there at the "bar" on Sundays and have only ever had one person comment (looking for recommendations on local gun shops). |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Icetera wrote: I noticed a number of people mentioning that they OC at the Waffle House at Broad and Glenside. I am usually OCed there at the "bar" on Sundays and have only ever had one person comment (looking for recommendations on local gun shops). Welcome to OCDO - good people and conversation here. Waffle House on Broad is part of my regular tour though I never sit at the counter w/back to the door - that makes my neck crawl. 3 out of 4 Sundays finds me there around 9:30 AM - look for VaTech hat. Also check out our monthly OC dinner on the 2nd Tues. of each month. http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/22536.html Yata hey |
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Grapeshot wrote: Icetera wrote: I noticed a number of people mentioning that they OC at the Waffle House at Broad and Glenside. I am usually OCed there at the "bar" on Sundays and have only ever had one person comment (looking for recommendations on local gun shops).
Thank you. I usually try to sit closest to the cash register, where I can get a quick view of the door, as that does make me nervous, and my coat on the seat back blocks any view of my pistol from the doorway. I hate taking up a whole booth for just myself and like having quick access to the door, should it be needed. I actually just discovered this site, last night, while investigating Movieland's ABC license. Usually, I frequent USACarry.com, but now that I see we have a more local forum, I expect to be hanging around ehre quite a bit. Disappointingly, I am typically tied up on Tuesday evenings, but may be able to make some of the breakfasts. Last edited on Tue Mar 3rd, 2009 09:59 pm by Icetera |
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Icetera wrote:
I was just there the other night. There's a thread on it. |
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leprechaun117 Regular Member
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Icetera wrote:leprechaun117 wrote:Carried all over richmond over the weekend. Greentop, Domimion (head guy was fairly rude... Made me and a buddy draw and show him our guns were clear in the middle of the store... Real safe...) My friend who lives in richmond said he was the owner/manager/whatever. We were standing at the counter looking at machinw guns (10 feet away.) He just had to verify we didn't have one in the pipe. I would rather leave my 1911 locked in a retention holster than pull it out and play with it in a store. |
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riverrat10k Regular Member
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Oc'd at Ukrops, Food Line, and 7-11 on Forest Hill. Y awn. |
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leprechaun117 wrote: Icetera wrote: I would certainly agree there. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd for lunch today at Capriccio's Pizzaria (ABC on) on West Broad today, TJ Maxx shopping center. The waiter did a double take but there were no issues. |
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Lunch at Golden Corral on Providence Rd. just off Midlothian. Went through line with Sheriff's deputy and saw a unicorn too. No issues - great popcorn shrimp. Yata hey |
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vt357 Regular Member
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OC'ed at the Virginia Credit Union on Hull St - no problems. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd for dinner tonight with the family at Capriccio's Pizzaria again (ABC on) on West Broad. Sat right by the door with my defensive firearm facing the big picture window and people milling around outside. Nothing was said. (and the pizza was fabulous!) |
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Skeptic Regular Member 
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Anyone have any experience at the Sports Page in Mechanicsville? There is a doing there next Friday afternoon and I am considering attendance but not if they are not 2A friendly. edit - can't spell Last edited on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 02:59 pm by Skeptic |
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Skeptic wrote: Anyone have any experience at the Sports Page in Mechanicsville? Hey Skeptic, take point and let us know. Yata hey |
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hellfogg Regular Member
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OC'd with a friend, at the Aylett Dine-in (or as I still know it, Tasty Freeze) in King William. Not really Richmond, but I guess it's close enough. No problems. |
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Maybe Regular Member
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good day, my brothers and sisters in arms! been a gun advocate all my life (grandfather was president of NWTF in the 80s). got myself a Springfield XD 9mm about a year ago and it is one of my most prized possessions. have not open carried much because I admittedly did not fully know all of the laws until recently. boy do I expect that to change now - I hope to spur some inquiring minds about our rights! recently wrote a blog post on gun rights over at my site: http://calenfretts.com plan to write another one on VA open carry laws soon. hope to see you out on the field! Calen EDIT: forgot to mention - I live in the Fan at Grace and Lombardy. Hell Block. I'm still but a young buck Last edited on Sun Mar 8th, 2009 06:11 am by Maybe |
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hlh Regular Member
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Welcome and please join us at the next OC dinner! http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/22536.html |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd for dinner tonight at Kenji Hibachi & Sushi Bar, 11740 W Broad St., Richmond, VA 23233 (ABC on) also at Victory Nissan on West Broad... no issues |
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Icetera Regular Member
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OC'd at El Toro Loco. Firearm was clearly visable with no . Border Chop House & Bar was not so 2A friendly for brunch, but atleast they stated that they "prefer" I take it out, not that I "cannot" carry it. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd last night while grocery shopping in Kroger on East Ridge... |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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My traveling companion OC'd on his bike on 64 and 288. Also Ruby Tuesday on Broad Street near Willow Lawn. (Great service, btw!) Both Monday. No issues. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Ocd at all three Lowes on W. Broad St. as well as the one on Brook Rd. Yata hey |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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ClumsyCandy wrote: My traveling companion OC'd on his bike on 64 and 288. "traveling companion" huh? hehehe |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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I OC'd tonight at Pronto Pizza (ABC on) and Barnes & Noble, both at Libbie Place - no issues |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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ProShooter wrote: ClumsyCandy wrote:My traveling companion OC'd on his bike on 64 and 288. Yeah some of us are lucky enough to have a traveling companion who pays for the range and dinner |
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ClumsyCandy wrote: ProShooter wrote:ClumsyCandy wrote:My traveling companion OC'd on his bike on 64 and 288. So what do you bring to the table? Mine provides backup support and picks up the tab half of the time! Check out the Richmond OC breakfast thread - we'll be there. Yata hey |
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Grapeshot wrote:
Usually? crutches! ha ha ha! |
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LOL not anymore! So there! And I provide the secretarial work and GPS. Man has a lot of paperwork! Oh and the fawning over his guns and car. It's a tough job but someone's gotta do it! And we have discussed going to the breakfasts, but he's only home on the weekends so it's hard to fit everything in! I'll get him there eventually! |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd for dinner tonight at Max & Erma's on West Broad/Glenside - no issues. The place was packed! |
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hlh Regular Member
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OC'd at the Peking Palace in Midlothian this evening. The asian staff watched me a lot, but the US natives didn't notice me. |
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Got called in to work on m planned day off, so did not make it to the event up in Mechanicsville and because I had to work I didn't have my OC gun with me HOWEVER - I did make it to a related event at BS - Burgers and Sports on West Broad. AND I saw a UNICORN He is a VCDL member but had not heard of OCDO yet He may show up here He had no issues with his carry that I saw, including with the owner/manager, Tim, who was right there. If I had thought about it I would have taken some VCDL literature to pass out to the folks there But getting called in to work unexpectedly sort of put a damper on my prep time.The group is a group of fairly pro 2A and pro common sense type people and there may be another meeting in about a month so. |
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OC'd at a few locations in Hopewell and Colonial Heights a few days ago. No problems at any of them. Wawa in Hopewell, Taco Bell in Hopewell (or is it technically Prince George?) then browsed around Wal-Mart in Colonial Heights for about two hours. The poor Loss Prevention guy in Wal-Mart followed me everywhere trying to be stealthy and not be seen, but he just sucked at it and gave up after the first hour.) |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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dizzysmurf03 wrote: The poor Loss Prevention guy in Wal-Mart followed me everywhere trying to be stealthy and not be seen, but he just sucked at it and gave up after the first hour.) I've had this happen on one occasion and simply walked up to him a struck up a conversation - really flustered him at first - wished him luck and hoped he had a quiet evening. Think I may use my camera phone next time and then go see the store mgr. and tell him or her that there is a very strange acting individual following/stalking people about the store and I think they should know about it. Yata hey |
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Icetera Regular Member
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OC'd at Young Bin Restaurant near Dominion Shooting Range. |
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Ok this is probably in a totally wrong thread but the search option didnt turn up anything for the area. If it's the wrong area hopefully a mod will put it in the right area, if it's correct well then i guess in doing ok. OC'ed at Bass Pro Shop. Only acknowledgement was from some cute girls who smiled and pointed at the "dangerous guy". So that was nice OC'ed at Ashland Coffee and Tea, had about 3 from a hippie, yuppie, and cute college girl.OC'ed at the Smokey Pig in Ashland and not so much as a peep or second glance. Friendly service, and outstanding food. Try the hush puppies!! |
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Spectre wrote: Ok this is probably in a totally wrong thread but the search option didnt turn up anything for the area. If it's the wrong area hopefully a mod will put it in the right area, if it's correct well then i guess in doing ok. You got the right thread - we included downtown Ashland in the Greater Richmond Area. We had an OC dinner at the Smokey Pig last month - Feb - they are very OC friendly. Yata hey |
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OC'd at the breakfast at Waffle House with my traveling companion and Grapeshot this a.m. I got a lot of the myself (being female and all) : ). My traveling companion and I then went to Short Pump Wal-Mart. Were at the jewelry counter for about 20 minutes and no stares, clerk didn't say anything. When we went to the self-checkout the older lady who was watching the checkouts looked at me (my strong side was to her) and asked me, "Are you a detective?" No. "A Police officer?" No. "Are you that scared?" No ma'am I'm just exercising my Second Amendment Right (she then had to think for a second to remember what 2A says, mumbled to herself, "the right to bear arms") I then said I am lucky enough to live in Virginia where I am allowed to Openly Carry my firearm. She seemed satisfied with this response and then wished us a good day. Good experience : ). I alone then OC'd at Walgreens at the corner of Libbie and Broad. Not even a glimpse : ). |
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OC'd tonight at the Room Store on West Broad and the Ipanema Grill on Cox/Broad - no issues. The Brazilian Steakhouse was very good! |
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OC'd a day late at the above mentioned Waffle House. The staff is used to me and their were no reactions from the customers. |
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Icetera wrote: OC'd a day late at the above mentioned Waffle House. The staff is used to me and their were no reactions from the customers. What time were you there? I stopped by for a quick bite about 1:30 PM - the place was packed - unusual for a Sunday afternoon. Yata hey |
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Grapeshot wrote: Icetera wrote:OC'd a day late at the above mentioned Waffle House. The staff is used to me and their were no reactions from the customers. That is around the time I typically go, but I ended up going at 5ish, yesterday. |
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Highlander19 Regular Member
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Popped my cherry today. Only had my handgun for a few days. OC'd at Hooters on Broad. OC'd at Pet Smart, then Barnes & Noble on Broad/Libbie. No problems at either, but as I was checking out at Pet Smart, the cashier was inquiring about my pistol. She said she had a .45. She then asked if I was a cop and I simply stated "no". After I revealed I wasn't LE, the lady in line behind me had a look on her face like I had just pulled out my manhood. Anyway, this forum is great! Just soaking up as much info as I can. |
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Highlander19 wrote: Popped my cherry today. Only had my handgun for a few days. I OC'd at B&N just this past Thursday.....no problems then either. |
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Highlander19 wrote: Popped my cherry today. Only had my handgun for a few days. Welcome to OCDO!!! |
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Highlander19 wrote: Popped my cherry today. Only had my handgun for a few days. Welcome and good first OC day. Hope you enjoy, learn and stay. Keep in mind that this forum is read by many diverse groups: mothers, grandmothers, children, the press. My suggestion is to post things in a manner that you pastor or mother would be comfortable reading. While we do have the "good ol' boys in attendance, the club is not exclusive. Yata hey |
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essayons Regular Member
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ProShooter wrote: OC'd tonight at the Room Store on West Broad and the Ipanema Grill on Cox/Broad - no issues. Ever OC'ed at Tejas de Brazil at Regency? It's my favorite brazilian steakhouse but Regency mall is OC-unfriendly. Tejas has a different entrance and I don't ever see any of the mall cops inside, so I wonder if they may have a different policy. |
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essayons wrote: ProShooter wrote:OC'd tonight at the Room Store on West Broad and the Ipanema Grill on Cox/Broad - no issues. Have not but its now on my To-Do list Have OCd in both Pennys and Sears though - entered through their outside doors and exited the same way. DoubleTap was with me both times but CCing. Yata hey |
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essayons Regular Member
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Grapeshot wrote: essayons wrote:ProShooter wrote:OC'd tonight at the Room Store on West Broad and the Ipanema Grill on Cox/Broad - no issues. Make sure you save plenty of room for the filet mignon wrapped in bacon....droool |
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Katfisher Regular Member
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hello all my first post here ... been lurking for a couple weeks now (awesome forum BTW) ... well the reason im posting is because today while attending a security school off of west broad st. I was informed by another student (from that area) that it is illegal to open carry in Richmond since today was the first day we could bring weapons to class I figured I would OC on the way to and from and while on lunch. well I wasn't to worried because I have glanced over this thread before and since its 27 pages long there must be a bunch of people that OC in Richmond. well I was just wondering if I was breaking the Law today? had lunch at hardees on w.broad with no issues |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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Katfisher wrote: hello all Whoever told you that knows not of what he speaks! |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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OC'd tonight at Wally World in Short Pump. Got the googly eyes from the greeters, and walked past a group of teenagers who made some comment to the effect of DAMN SHE'S READY! That was about all I caught as I continued walking and giggling...lol Then as I continued around the store with a fellow OCer, we were in the pillow aisle when two sales associates come down the aisle holding boxes to stock (it was about 1130pm). One of the ladies starts stocking, the other, a shorter older white lady looks at me and goes excuse me, why are you carrying that? I pointed at my companion and go, The same reason he is. I'm exercising my 2A right. She was like oh I just don't want anything to happen, Im going on vacation tomorrow! We all laughed then stood around for about 10 minutes informing her that NO we did not need permits to open carry, only conceal, NO there is no gun registry, and if we had been BG's we wouldn't have shopped first and wouldn't have been OCing. She was like yeah...thats true... Then went over to the Denny's at Bethlehem and Broad. Walked in, I waved at the gentleman who appeared to be the manager, my fellow OCer and I sat down, and the manager walks over and says "Can I get you something to drink?" I ask what they had to drink. He replys "I am not comfortable with you having those in here. I can't stop you from doing it but I am not comfortable with it because if you try something I can't defend myself. Can I get you something to drink?" We then placed our drink order and looked at each other like What the hell just happened? I then overheard him and a waitress discusing how "something" could happen and it might go all "matrix and @#$% up in here." We were then joined by my traveling companion whose weapon I was carrying at the time, so I transferred it over to him, and of course, when the manger saw we got the again. When our waitress came over I asked her if she was the only one brave enough to serve us. She was like I don't have a problem with you, he does. We then received great service from Samantha. Of course as we were leaving my fellow OCer said "You'll miss us now that were gone (in a joking fashion)" and the manager responded "I'll sleep better tonight since nothing happened." I definately think more of us need to frequent this establishment, maybe a late night gathering is in order seeing as how he may be the night manager. No we did not take the time to try to educate the uneducatable or ask his name. Just as long as we weren't asked to leave. We just wanted to enjoy our food and conversation. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Katfisher wrote: hello all Welcome Katfisher to our ranks. Hope that I may offer you a pointed suggestion without causing offense - don't do something related to firearms and then ask if you broke the law! Always know where you stand before you take a step. Your future and the reputation of fellow OCers is on the line every time you exercise your prerogative to carry. If you are at least 18yo and not excluded by legal exceptions (generally - not a felon, no domestic violence, no mental incapacity) you are good to OC anywhere not restricted. Can't list all these exceptions specifically at this hour but you need to KNOW THE LAW - do some research. I will start you and point you in the right direction though - understand that I am not an attorney and I am not giving legal advice. Become familiar with common sense rules of good conduct as well as safety practices Note that the absence of a law forbidding something makes it legal. There is not a statute law in Va. forbidding open carrying of a handgun - therefore it is legal. We enjoy state preemption - so it is legal to OC in Richmond as well as any other city, town or county in the state. OC is the only legal way to carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol. A private property owner (business or otherwise) may not allow guns if they so chose to not - that is their right. If a property owner or manager tells you "No", don't argue - get name and pertinent data if you can but leave - avoid a trespass charge. Some laws are covered here: http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm No carry in federal buildings, courts buildings, post offices, national parks (for the time being), sterile areas of airports to name a few + not on VCU or Geo. Mason Univ. property until these matters are resolved. Also check out the Virginia Citizens Defense League http://www.vcdl.org/ for more information and links. Hope this helps - gotta go crash. Yata hey Last edited on Fri Mar 20th, 2009 07:47 am by Grapeshot |
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Grapeshot wrote: Katfisher wrote:hello all Very well put Grapeshot, very succinct. Now it's my turn to hit the sack. :^) Last edited on Fri Mar 20th, 2009 08:10 am by Neplusultra |
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Katfisher Regular Member
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Thank you for the info gapeshot... no offense taken and hopefully I didnt say/do anything to offend yall..last thing i want to do is give OCers or any 2A advocates a bad rep. I did look through the va-code book I have and didnt see anything against OCing within the city limits. I posted here just to be sure but honestly more because thought it might be a good way to break the ice..... guess not ... maybe a simple "is it illegal to oc in richmond" would of been better ... |
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Katfisher wrote: Thank you for the info gapeshot... no offense taken and hopefully I didnt say/do anything to offend yall..last thing i want to do is give OCers or any 2A advocates a bad rep. I did look through the va-code book I have and didnt see anything against OCing within the city limits. I posted here just to be sure but honestly more because thought it might be a good way to break the ice..... guess not ... maybe a simple "is it illegal to oc in richmond" would of been better ... Not a problem - - the only thing that really offends our sensibilities is that some of our politicians and judges look at the facts and truth of the matter and then do the opposite. Just don't want to see you get yourself in a bind and pay the long term price - loss of money, property and freedom - and yes what one person does can effect the rights of many. Check out the threads on meet-ups, OC dinners in your area or make the trip to Richmond on the 2nd Tuesday of any month for ours and meet like minded, informed people of all ages and backgrounds. You'd be more than welcomed. Yata hey Psst - Hay guys be on the lookout will you. I think my "r" is missing again. Last edited on Fri Mar 20th, 2009 11:49 pm by Grapeshot |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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Grapeshot wrote
Does this mean you won't be doing your pirate impression at breakfast tomorrow?! My traveling companion OC'd tonight at Target at Libbie and Broad, also Hollywood Video at Staples Mill and Glenside/Hilliard. My "strong side" was sore and tired today and couldn't handle the extra weight...no carry for me! Does that make it my mediocre side? |
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ClumsyCandy wrote: Grapeshot wrote No it means your strong side is temporarily your weak side - so watcha gonna do about it? You've been on vacation too long. OCd at Walgreens on Hopkins Rd. and Chesterfield Library branch right next door - always received well both places. Yata hey |
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Spectre Regular Member
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OC'ed at JCPENNEY at Regency Square Mall, the Walmart across the street from said mall, and also at Southern Gun World. Not so much as even a look at the mall or Wally World. Got the typical "Yo dat boy be packin' a heatah! Don't f%@& wit dat white boy." from some gang banger idiots at Southern. Last edited on Sat Mar 21st, 2009 09:39 pm by Spectre |
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Another week, more OC'ing on the southside. Met up with Grapeshot, Skidmark, and a new young fellow(ufr20?)at IHOP on Midlothian. On to 7-11, Food Line, and Suntrust bank. Pretty typical Saturday, no confrontations. riverrat |
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SicSemperTyrannis Regular Member
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Carytown Today: The Compleat Gourmet and Carytown Coffee and Tea and Ellwood Thompsons. Glen Allen today: Kroger, Ukrops (Brook Rd) Glen Allen yesterday: Ukrops (Brook Road), Lowes and Kroger Had my first ever experience of a manager approaching me because "some people get nervous" at Lowes yesterday. Positve experience, overall. He said "Excuse me, sir, do you have a minute? Can I ask you something.... are you an off-duty police officer? (I immediately said no) I then volunteered that I am a Bank Manager with a slightly elevated risk but that I carry for personal protection. I had a huge load of mulch and kept moving towards the register at this point and he semi-smiled and said thank you and I kept walking. I was polite and responsive but never settled into an "let's have a conversation" stance. Once I got to the register, he came back by a about one minute later and said "thanks for your honesty" and then I left. I guess he felt better due to my demeanor - I wasn't ruffled at all - and perhaps the fact that I had 16 bags of mulch and other items also made him feel better. I WAS carrying my friends 1911 - a much more noticeable gun than my typical .357 revolver. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd today at Cici's Pizza on West Broad (Merchants Walk shopping center) - no issues |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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SicSemperTyrannis wrote: Carytown Today: The Compleat Gourmet and Carytown Coffee and Tea and Ellwood Thompsons. Very interesting. Which makes me really want to switch usernames with you. How much do you want:^)?.... I'd be very pleased with your demeanor if you said "yes". :^). |
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Neplusultra wrote: SicSemperTyrannis wrote:Carytown Today: The Compleat Gourmet and Carytown Coffee and Tea and Ellwood Thompsons. ??? |
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richarcm wrote: Neplusultra wrote:SicSemperTyrannis wrote:Carytown Today: The Compleat Gourmet and Carytown Coffee and Tea and Ellwood Thompsons. SicSemperTyrannis is the VA state motto which means "Thus always to Tyrants", which also was the user name I originally wanted - But someone already had it !! |
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Neplusultra wrote: SicSemperTyrannis is the VA state motto which means "Thus always to Tyrants", which also was the user name I originally wanted - But someone already had it !! Sic Tu Tyrannis = So to tyrants Not the same but almost or use Sic Semper Tyrannis as your tag line. Yata hey |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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OC'd today at DSW on Broad Street. Petsmart at Short Pump. WaWa on Broad Street near the Goochland Co. line. No issues. : ) Not even googly eyes, then again I don't turn around and look after I walk past people... |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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OC'd today at Breakfast at Denny's (had a good group!) Then down to Dominion for a little target practice. Then OC'd at Target on Forrest Hill Avenue. Only issue was at Denny's, when I walked in to request the tables, one of the waitress' said "Please don't hurt me." I responded "Ma'am if I was going to hurt you I'd have done it by now and I wouldn't have showed it to you." She then responded "Everyone is looking at you" (I wanted to respond, their looking because you said something, but I didn't) instead, I just turned, smiled, and waved. : ) No other issues! |
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Agent19 Regular Member
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I also OC'd @ that same Denny's. Stopped @ Exxon station in Ladysmith on the way to Richmond for Coffee and gum, no issues. |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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I guess that I'm going to have to OC at Denny's to be in with the "in crowd". |
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chrsjhnsn Regular Member
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whenever I get the "are you a cop" question I always reply "why? is there a criminal somewhere?" |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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ProShooter wrote: I guess that I'm going to have to OC at Denny's to be in with the "in crowd".LOL yeah well, it might take a little more than just going to Denny's! Try to go at night if you can, I'll be going again when the Night Manager is there again : ) |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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ClumsyCandy wrote: ProShooter wrote:I guess that I'm going to have to OC at Denny's to be in with the "in crowd".LOL yeah well, it might take a little more than just going to Denny's! I used to work off duty at that Denny's. Had some real fun times there, haha |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd for dinner tonight at Capriccio's on W. Broad - no issues |
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ProShooter wrote:OC'd for dinner tonight at Capriccio's on W. Broad - no issues How was the food? |
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Spectre wrote: ProShooter wrote: Fantastic, as always! |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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OC'd today at Hooters on W. Broad Street. No issues, but seeing as how I was the ONLY female patron there when I walked in, I got a lot of the and heard one table say quite loudly "OH SNIT!". Waitress came over at one point, and kinda looked down at my gun and said, umm, what is that? I was like, umm a gun? She was like no what kind?! And we started talking about guns, and how people had told her to get one now and I reccommened taking classes and practicing and going to the gun show to feel out what she liked before she bought. Other than getting stared at a lot, no issues : ). Also OC'd at Petsmart at Short Pump, got asked about my gun by a couple of people, including the young male checker who told me about he and his fathers collection. I of course got the "don't shoot me" from the lady who got me my crickets...I gave my standard response, "if I was going to shoot you I'da done it already and I wouldn't have showed it to you." She laughed and I went on my merry way! |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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ClumsyCandy wrote: OC'd today at Hooters on W. Broad Street. No issues, but seeing as how I was the ONLY female patron there when I walked in, I got a lot of the I knew when you told me earlier that you were going to Hooters, you'd find some way to stir up some sheet. |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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ProShooter wrote: ClumsyCandy wrote:OC'd today at Hooters on W. Broad Street. No issues, but seeing as how I was the ONLY female patron there when I walked in, I got a lot of the Hey I tried to throw some business your way, so be nice! |
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ClumsyCandy wrote: ProShooter wrote:ClumsyCandy wrote:OC'd today at Hooters on W. Broad Street. No issues, but seeing as how I was the ONLY female patron there when I walked in, I got a lot of the Did you give away my business card? |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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Gave her your website, and told her what kind of classes/lessons you give! |
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ClumsyCandy wrote: Gave her your website, and told her what kind of classes/lessons you give! Good girl! |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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OCd at 84 Lumber near Chippenham and Jeff Davis - twice. No issues. And Hardees a short way toward town from there - all went well. Yata hey |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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OC'd at Walgreens at Broad and Libbie! No issues! |
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Spectre Regular Member
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OC'd last night at Casa Grande and Ukrop's in Short Pump, no reaction and pleased with the food as I have been for years. |
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Spectre Regular Member
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OC'ed at Casa Grande in Short Pump (with my mother this time). This time the staff seemed a lot friendlier, service was faster, and my sweet tea was refilled 5 times! Unheard of! |
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jmelvin Founder's Club Member
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OC'ed at the Chipotle Mexican Grill on US-1 near 295 in the Ashland / Glen Allen area. No issues and no stares. Just a big yummy burrito. |
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SicSemperTyrannis Regular Member
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Open carried a 1911 all morning and early afternoon in Carytown while with my 5 year old niece and 3 year old nephew. Among many other places, we went to 7-11 for a slurpee, had brunch at Can Can, bought toys at World of Mirth, chocolate at at For the Love of Chocolate. No issues in Carytown, as usual. In Glen Allen this morning I open carried at Kroger and Wal-Mart near exit 83B and Brook. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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OCd Sat evening at O'Charly's (Gaskins & Rt. 64), Sunday CC in church and OC at Westhampton Memorial Park and River City Dinner (Rt 95 & Staples Mill) 1911 & two spare mags in all cases - no objections - nice meal. Nice conversation with server at River City Dinner - she showed us Peter Nap's great open letter/posting to his forum - they have it framed beside the front door. Yata hey |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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OC'd at Deep Run Park yesterday. It was such a nice day out, so the girlfriend and I decided to take the pups out for a walk. Got a few stares. I'm not sure if it was because of the gun or the two rottweilers who were accompanying us. |
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mercutio545 wrote: OC'd at Deep Run Park yesterday. It was such a nice day out, so the girlfriend and I decided to take the pups out for a walk. Got a few stares. I'm not sure if it was because of the gun or the two rottweilers who were accompanying us. You OC two rottweilers - at the same time? Gasp! Yata hey |
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Grapeshot wrote: mercutio545 wrote:OC'd at Deep Run Park yesterday. It was such a nice day out, so the girlfriend and I decided to take the pups out for a walk. Got a few stares. I'm not sure if it was because of the gun or the two rottweilers who were accompanying us. Haha... You can never have too much protection! They're sisters, and my girlfriend got them together when they were puppies. Pretty much inseparable.  |
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SicSemperTyrannis Regular Member
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Open carried today at the Jiffy Lube and Taco Bell in Short Pump. At the Jiffy Lube, I ran into an employee who is a VCDL member (he noticed the sticker on the back of my Jeep Liberty). Also, an older black man who also worked there asked me "why I don't get a concealed permit?". I explained I had one, and he explained that he knows you don't need one to openly carry a firearm - he was just asking. He said he has carried both ways in the past! Word is spreading... As nice as all this is, Jiffy Lube messed things up as they often do - they forgot to apply my coupon (I had to return) and forgot to replace my PCV valve as I asked. Oh well... |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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SicSemperTyrannis wrote: Open carried today at the Jiffy Lube and Taco Bell in Short Pump. Jiffy Lube destroyed 2 cars in my family. You are taking your life into your hands using them! |
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mercutio545 Regular Member
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ProShooter wrote: SicSemperTyrannis wrote:Open carried today at the Jiffy Lube and Taco Bell in Short Pump. +1 They destroyed my Grandpa's car many many years ago. They threaded the oil drain plug wrong, and the engine was ruined after all the oil leaked out. Also, if you haven't seen this before, it will blow your mind: |
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SicSemperTyrannis wrote: Open carried today at the Jiffy Lube and Taco Bell in Short Pump. Just what we need, another BMWAG !!! Just kidding there Danbus. you should have asked him how long ago he OCed and where/why. I would have liked to hear the answer to that one. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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OCd at Captain D's on Jeff Davis below Chippenham and the SunTrust Bank near there. All was as expected including with the LEO providing security for a bank customer. Yata hey |
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OC'd today at the Southern Railway deli downtown. |
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OC'd today at the Southern Railway deli downtown. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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From southside a negative report - Stopped at the "flea market" that opened up a while back in the old K-Mart location on Jeff Davis Hwy right at Chippenham Pkwy. Had never been in there before and just wanted to look around - all items that I saw were cheap, low end products and ethnic - not what I might want. Back to the story - As I was OCing, I looked for signs restricting guns/weapons and did not see one anywhere near the entrance door. My work partner and I went in (he does not carry) walked about half of the facility and noticed a Chesterfield LEO checking me out. Gave him a nod and a smile and just kept walking and looking. About 5 min. later a voice said, "Excuse me, sir." It was the CPD LEO who informed me that guns were not allowed inside. I said that I did not realize that and looked for signage before I came in and didn't see any but that I understood and would leave immediately. He did get a little curt when he then added, "You need to leave NOW!" Without further discussion with the officer, my friend and I walked to the front entrance/exit while the officer escorted us about two steps to my rear. We were met by a woman at the exit that obviously was with the store. I explained to her that I knew she was within her rights to exclude weapons but had not seen any signage and that under the circumstances, I would simply shop somewhere else where I was welcome. She proceeded to unlock a set of double doors about 8-10' from the entrance door and there on the outside in big white letters was painted "ABSOLUTELY NO WEAPONS"!!! In my defense, there were many white painted signs in varying styles all over the place with a carnival like atmosphere - and the sign was neither on the entrance door nor next to it. Nothing lost - no new wrist jewelry. It was an interesting short excursion but I won't be back. They have absolutely nothing of interest to me AND they are a Victim Only Zone. Yata hey |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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OC'd today at: (pardon any errors in typing, I ripped off my left pinky nail today, and it HURTS!) Chili's in Short Pump. Got a from the waitress, and below par service. She was quite brusque. Other than that, no issues.Saxon Shoes. No issues, got the from one employee, but another lady, a very nice black lady, saw my gun and asked me what it was on my hip, I was like, umm, a gun...she then proceeded to ask me if I was with any and all LEO agencies, and then she was like, lemme tell you why, my neighbor, he likes to put on a show for me. Apparently he likes to put on the Victoria's Secret Fashion show for her everynight when she gets home. Her local LEO's told her that since he was in his own house, they couldn't do anything. I suggest she videotape it then give a copy to his GF and pastor (both of which he has introduced her to!) Otherwise no issues : ).Wal-Mart. Had a gentleman in a power shopping cart ask me how it was that I was carrying in Wal Mart. I explained to him about Virginia law (or lack thereof) for Open Carrying, and about permits, and talking about what Maryland allows and doesnt allow (he mentioned he was thinking about moving there). I recommended that he visit our lovely site to find out more info about laws and such. He thanked me for my time. As I was leaving had another gentleman in a power cart holler nice gun as I hobbled past. : ) Good experiences. Petco. No issues, the young man helping me asked what I was carrying, and told me about what he wanted and said he'd have to get a permit to carry. I said no you don't. He said oh well to conceal I do. I was like yes, for that you do. (and thought to myself but thats not what you said) Petsmart. No issues. WaWa on Broad Street near 288. No issues. Dick's Sporting Goods at VCC. Busy Day! Tired sore leg! Last edited on Sat Apr 11th, 2009 05:35 am by ClumsyCandy |
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ClumsyCandy wrote: OC'd today at: (pardon any errors in typing, I ripped off my left pinky nail today, and it HURTS!)"That is the WORST!!! ClumsyCandy wrote: Saxon Shoes. No issues, got the |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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OC'd last night at Capriccio's Pizzaria, picking up some pies. Had a nice chat with the owner's wife about trying to find good Italian sausage here in Richmond. All the while, I had my G-lock on my side and she never said a word. I know that the owner looked over at me a few times and he didnt say anything either. |
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Spectre Regular Member
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OC'd at the VA ABC in Gayton Crossing Shopping Center (across from my house) last night with my step mother. One customer saw my 1911 and said "Whoah! " pointed at my gun, and took a very quick detour around me to the cashier. He told the cashier, who was also the branch manager that I had a gun. The manager looked at me smiled and said "Oh don't worry about him he used to work for us, and plus he is not doing anything wrong, so I think I'll let it slide this time." (sarcasm) After that we went to the Kroger in the same shopping center. Had a cashier who was running the self checkout isle . A few minutes later the manager walked past us in the bad-aids section, turn back around and ask me, "Excuse me sir is that a real gun?" I told him, "Yes sir it is. I would not carry a fake gun on my hip." He then proceeded to tell me, "Ah I was just curious as it is scaring some people." As if that were the magic words to make me give up my rights. I told him, "Oh well, I'm sorry that people are afraid of an inanimate object made of metal and wood." , and went about finishing up my shopping with Mr. Manager trying to be discreet in following us around the store till we left. No issues otherwise. Last edited on Sat Apr 11th, 2009 05:40 pm by Spectre |
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OC'd today at the Science Museum of Virginia - Walked past 2 families and one guy said to the other " Hey look at that guy" and pointed to me. I kept on walking and no one said a word. |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Spectre wrote: Snip That's when I'd use the "Bad guys don't carry their guns in the open" reply. |
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I've been carrying since March in the Ashland area. Wal-mart, Sheetz, Best Cleaners, and around my neighborhood. Alot of , but have only had one . It's great to have this forum. I'm looking forward to hearing more stories and tell some too. |
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flying_174 wrote: I've been carrying since March in the Ashland area. Wal-mart, Sheetz, Best Cleaners, and around my neighborhood. Alot of Try catching one of our OC dinners - like this Tuesday evening. http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=23636&forum_id=54&jump_to=404399#p404399 Yata hey |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Keep it up and be a "Southern Gentleman" and I'm sure many hearts will be won over.... |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Grapenuts, there's only been "one" dinner in the Blacksburg area to my knowledge. Just not many of us down here.... So sorry, and even those are a bunch of younguns. I was the old man out. We need to start a media campaign down here...!!! |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Neplusultra wrote: Grapenuts, there's only been "one" dinner in the Blacksburg area to my knowledge. Just not many of us down here.... So sorry, and even those are a bunch of younguns. I was the old man out. We need to start a media campaign down here...!!! Sounds like someone volunteering to me. It really quite easy, post a place w/date and time - they will follow. Suggestion - do not put when and where to vote or you'll end up talking about it for weeks. If only 3-4 show up, it is a beginning. I think it was JMB that said, "Whenever two or more are gathered in my name............." Yata hey |
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RoisinDubh Regular Member 
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I'd be greatly interested in an OC dinner in the Blacksburg area... as would my roommate I'm sure (just got his first pistol the other day and has been OC-ing). And yeah, we're some of those young-uns  . Unfortunately, there's only one month left in the spring semester, with the last week of that being finals. Of course I'll be in Blacksburg at least part of the summer, so it's worth a shot planning something - no pun intended. |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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Neplusultra wrote: Grapenuts, there's only been "one" dinner in the Blacksburg area to my knowledge. Just not many of us down here.... So sorry, and even those are a bunch of younguns. I was the old man out. We need to start a media campaign down here...!! Look at it as a chance to be the experienced, knowledgeable one - been there, done that type of thing. It's what education/sharing is all about. Never miss an opportunity. BTW - Everybody's a youngun to me. Yata hey |
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skidmark Activist Member
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OC'd to get coffee at the Wawa on Midlothian across from the Honda place, where I was headed for service on the vehicle. Young lady making my English Muffin commented positively on the GUNS SAVE LIVES button, which I promptly took off & gave to her. She said "I'll wear it proudly." I'm too old, ugly & ornery (especially BC [before coffee]) to think she was trying to flatter me. Don't know if she is already one of us outside of work, a closet convert, or someone who just decided which side of the fence to be on. What I do know is carrying extra buttons is not costly and does wonders for the cause. stay safe. skidmark |
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Spectre Regular Member
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skidmark wrote:OC'd to get coffee at the Wawa on Midlothian across from the Honda place, where I was headed for service on the vehicle. Young lady making my English Muffin commented positively on the GUNS SAVE LIVES button, which I promptly took off & gave to her. She said "I'll wear it proudly." I would go there all the time for breakfast when I worked for Southern. I don't know her name but the skinny white girl who made my food was always nice to chat with about guns. |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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Well I went to the Local Food Kitty (Food Lion for those who don't know), at Libbie and Broad, across from Target. Hobbled in (my left hip has given out on me again, I don't have a leg to stand on! ), took my coat off (I had my coat behind my gun prior to this) and proceeded to do my shopping. Started over in fresh foods, and worked my way up and down the aisles, got over to about the pet food, and was at the end of the aisle when a young black girl who was working in the store goes Ma'am, and then proceeds to look around, then comes back to my side and goes "I just wanted to let you know, you're scaring people." I was like umm, I haven't even touched my gun. She was like I know, I'm just letting you know. I was like okay and continued my shopping. I got over to the yogurt and was standing there when a manger comes up to me and I turn to him and smile (being the polite cripple that I am) and he kept kinda backing away from me and he was goes "You're scaring me." I just kinda looked at him like umm...and then he goes "Are you legal?" (I really wanted to be like no, I'm an alien) but I just said "Yes" and he walked away. Funniest part was everytime I turned my strong side towards him he backed away kinda flinching...I even looked at my gun to make sure it wasn't jumping out of the holster and doing tricks without me! I kept waiting for him to ask me to leave, I would have just left my entire cart of groceries and left (all $216.00 worth). I did however get someone to come bag my groceries when they weren't really bagging anyone else's...guess they just really wanted to get me out of there. I didnt even bother asking for help even though I needed it, figured they'd be too scared to send someone out to my car with me! |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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ClumsyCandy wrote: Snip I was just at the farm bureau where a lady looked a little concerned about me. There's a shelf on the floor right near the register, she was on one side and me on the other. So seeing her I motioned for her to go ahead of me even though I was there first. Just because she was a lady and she seemed uneasy a little. I think/hope politeness eased her mind a bit. Even out here in the country where everyone and his brother has a gun, for hunting, people are still a little weirded out by someone carrying..... Last edited on Tue Apr 14th, 2009 09:09 pm by Neplusultra |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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ClumsyCandy wrote: Well I went to the Local Food Kitty (Food Lion for those who don't know), at Libbie and Broad, across from Target. There you go, starting trouble again! I would have bagged my own groceries. One item, one bag, each one handled v e r y s l o w l y. |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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ProShooter wrote: ClumsyCandy wrote:Well I went to the Local Food Kitty (Food Lion for those who don't know), at Libbie and Broad, across from Target. Well I would have except for the fact that I was seriously hurting and could barely stand up long enough for someone else to bag them, much less me standing there doing it slowly : ) They really did want me out of there, they OVERLOADED my grocery bags... |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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ClumsyCandy wrote: Well I went to the Local Food Kitty (Food Lion for those who don't know), at Libbie and Broad, across from Target. Next time try "I need some help over here NOW! Bet you get it. Yata hey |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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ClumsyCandy wrote: There you go, starting trouble again! Excuses, excuses.....suck it up! |
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Grapeshot Founder's Club Member
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ProShooter wrote: ClumsyCandy wrote:There you go, starting trouble again! Don't they have the cute little, battery powered handicap shopping carts? Think of the fun of driving one with your head down, pedal to the metal and thumb on the beep-beep horn - now that is scary! Yata hey Yata hey |
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ProShooter Regular Member
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Grapeshot wrote: ProShooter wrote:ClumsyCandy wrote:There you go, starting trouble again! We could get her one with a flashing blue light and she could go WHOOOP WHOOP like the Po-lice ! |
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Spectre Regular Member
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ProShooter wrote:
Don't make laugh like that man. I have a reputation to uphold |
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ClumsyCandy Regular Member
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LOL yes they do make those little carts, but I had more groceries than would have fit in the basket of one. : ) And I avoid having to use a wheelchair like the plague! |
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BULLITT Regular Member 
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Open carried at Walmart on Parham road. Nothing was said, but the checkout line shortened significantly as soon as I showed up. No complaints here. Last edited on Wed Apr 15th, 2009 04:07 am by BULLITT |
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