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tony Regular Member
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I am a Florida resident that has punchiest a gun for my protection. I have been charged with open carry of a firearm 790.053. The situation is I had guest visiting with children and did not fell comfortable leaving my gun at home. Did not have my license yet so could not conceal my firearm, so I unload my gun place it in a holster and carry it to my car, place it in the glove box and drive away. Ten minutes later a police officer pulls me over with four other cars to assist in a takedown. Now I have been charged with open carry of a firearm. So how can I do this, if I conceal the gun I will be committing a felony and if I don’t it is a misdemeanor? How do I get my gun from my house to my car without becoming a criminal? The important part the kids are safe at my house! There is a level of responsibility in being a gun owner, and I thought that was me. |
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ralphb72 Regular Member 
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That sux, I'm not in Florida but I take it glove box carry is legal? In that case, couldn't you put it in a lockable case, unloaded and put it in your trunk? Or just put it in the case until you get in your car? |
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rady8um Regular Member
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tony wrote: I am a Florida resident that has punchiest a gun for my protection. I have been charged with open carry of a firearm 790.053. The situation is I had guest visiting with children and did not fell comfortable leaving my gun at home. Did not have my license yet so could not conceal my firearm, so I unload my gun place it in a holster and carry it to my car, place it in the glove box and drive away. Ten minutes later a police officer pulls me over with four other cars to assist in a takedown. Now I have been charged with open carry of a firearm. So how can I do this, if I conceal the gun I will be committing a felony and if I don’t it is a misdemeanor? How do I get my gun from my house to my car without becoming a criminal? The important part the kids are safe at my house! There is a level of responsibility in being a gun owner, and I thought that was me. According to OCDO travel map, OC in a glove box is legal. Did they charge you with OC because of carrying it to your car? Is OC legal on your own property in FLA? Sounds like you need to talk a lawyer. |
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Mike Super Moderator
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This is why we need to de-criminalize open carry in FL and the other 5 states! |
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Reverend73 Founder's Club Member
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OC is legal on your own property in FL. Glovebox carry is legal as well. You need to talk to a lawyer, because unless you aren't telling us something, you did nothing wrong Applicable laws 790.053 Open carrying of weapons.-- (1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. (2) A person may openly carry, for purposes of lawful self-defense: (a) A self-defense chemical spray. (b) A nonlethal stun gun or dart-firing stun gun or other nonlethal electric weapon or device that is designed solely for defensive purposes. (3) Any person violating this section commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. 790.25 Lawful ownership, possession, and use of firearms and other weapons.-- (3) LAWFUL USES.--The provisions of ss. 790.053 and 790.06 do not apply in the following instances, and, despite such sections, it is lawful for the following persons to own, possess, and lawfully use firearms and other weapons, ammunition, and supplies for lawful purposes: (a) Members of the Militia, National Guard, Florida State Defense Force, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, organized reserves, and other armed forces of the state and of the United States, when on duty, when training or preparing themselves for military duty, or while subject to recall or mobilization; (b) Citizens of this state subject to duty in the Armed Forces under s. 2, Art. X of the State Constitution, under chapters 250 and 251, and under federal laws, when on duty or when training or preparing themselves for military duty; (c) Persons carrying out or training for emergency management duties under chapter 252; (d) Sheriffs, marshals, prison or jail wardens, police officers, Florida highway patrol officers, game wardens, revenue officers, forest officials, special officers appointed under the provisions of chapter 354, and other peace and law enforcement officers and their deputies and assistants and full-time paid peace officers of other states and of the Federal Government who are carrying out official duties while in this state; (e) Officers or employees of the state or United States duly authorized to carry a concealed weapon; (f) Guards or messengers of common carriers, express companies, armored car carriers, mail carriers, banks, and other financial institutions, while actually employed in and about the shipment, transportation, or delivery of any money, treasure, bullion, bonds, or other thing of value within this state; (g) Regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive weapons from the United States or from this state, or regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for target, skeet, or trap shooting, while at or going to or from shooting practice; or regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for modern or antique firearms collecting, while such members are at or going to or from their collectors' gun shows, conventions, or exhibits; (h) A person engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition; (i) A person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of any such person while engaged in the lawful course of such business; (j) A person firing weapons for testing or target practice under safe conditions and in a safe place not prohibited by law or going to or from such place; (k) A person firing weapons in a safe and secure indoor range for testing and target practice; (l) A person traveling by private conveyance when the weapon is securely encased or in a public conveyance when the weapon is securely encased and not in the person's manual possession; (790.001 Definitions.--As used in this chapter, except where the context otherwise requires: (17) "Securely encased" means in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; or in a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access. ) (m) A person while carrying a pistol unloaded and in a secure wrapper, concealed or otherwise, from the place of purchase to his or her home or place of business or to a place of repair or back to his or her home or place of business; (n) A person possessing arms at his or her home or place of business; (o) Investigators employed by the several public defenders of the state, while actually carrying out official duties, provided such investigators: 1. Are employed full time; 2. Meet the official training standards for firearms established by the Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission as provided in s. 943.12(5) and the requirements of ss. 493.6108(1)(a) and 943.13(1)-(4); and 3. Are individually designated by an affidavit of consent signed by the employing public defender and filed with the clerk of the circuit court in the county in which the employing public defender resides. (p) Investigators employed by the capital collateral regional counsel, while actually carrying out official duties, provided such investigators: 1. Are employed full time; 2. Meet the official training standards for firearms as established by the Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission as provided in s. 943.12(1) and the requirements of ss. 493.6108(1)(a) and 943.13(1)-(4); and 3. Are individually designated by an affidavit of consent signed by the capital collateral regional counsel and filed with the clerk of the circuit court in the county in which the investigator is headquartered. Last edited on Fri Sep 7th, 2007 09:31 pm by Reverend73 |
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captainamerica Regular Member
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As mentioned, if you were on your own property then they are likely out of line. Next time (if there is a next time) consider unloading the weapon, place the shells/magazine in a container, place the unloaded weapon in a container, seal, lock (optional?), and take discretely to your vehicle. Simply put, firearms have to be handled to and from vehicles, so there's got to be a right way if CCW and OC is not an option. This is the way I do it when I bring in a handgun to my hotel room at night and return it to my car the next day if I'm in a state where CCW and/or OC is not an option. |
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yankees98a Regular Member
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Most likely op post property was a condo type property where others saw him and called it in... Where didhe go? |
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HankT State Researcher 
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yankees98a wrote: Most likely op post property was a condo type property where others saw him and called it in... You may very well be right. Common areas are not considered private residence nor are they curtilage. If one walks armed through a common area, one is either CCing or OCing. tony wrote: I am a Florida resident that has punchiest a gun for my protection. I have been charged with open carry of a firearm 790.053. The situation is I had guest visiting with children and did not fell comfortable leaving my gun at home. Did not have my license yet so could not conceal my firearm, so I unload my gun place it in a holster and carry it to my car, place it in the glove box and drive away. Ten minutes later a police officer pulls me over with four other cars to assist in a takedown. Now I have been charged with open carry of a firearm. So how can I do this, if I conceal the gun I will be committing a felony and if I don’t it is a misdemeanor? How do I get my gun from my house to my car without becoming a criminal? The important part the kids are safe at my house! There is a level of responsibility in being a gun owner, and I thought that was me. Was there any ammunition on your person or in the car or in the gun when the police stopped you? I'm hoping there wasn't but I suspect there was. In answer to your question: How do I get my gun from my house to my car without becoming a criminal? I think that an unloaded gun in almost any kind of container/bag/box taken from your home to your car and transported not on your person would be OK. |
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Reverend73 Founder's Club Member
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HankT wrote: Was there any ammunition on your person or in the car or in the gun when the police stopped you? I'm hoping there wasn't but I suspect there was. did you happen to read the florida statutes I posted. Loaded car carry is fine as long as it is securely encased, per the statutes. He had it in the glove box, he was within the law once he got it to his car. |
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HankT State Researcher
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Reverend73 wrote: HankT wrote:Was there any ammunition on your person or in the car or in the gun when the police stopped you? I'm hoping there wasn't but I suspect there was. Try to keep up, Reverend. I'm not questioning the time during which the gun was in the glove box. That's a trivial question. Everybody knows the answer. If the OP got arrested for open carrying it, assuming the LEO wasn't an idiot, had to be when he was walking with a gun on his hip or if it was displayed openly in his car. I suspect the former but it could be the latter. We need to know exactly for what the OP was charged as open carrying. |
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mvpel Regular Member
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Kind of pitiful that you have to wiggle through all these BS legal technicalities to exercise a fundamental human right. |
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Tomahawk Regular Member 
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mvpel wrote: Kind of pitiful that you have to wiggle through all these BS legal technicalities to exercise a fundamental human right. Yup. That's why some people just shove it down their pants and ignore the law. Shouldn't feel any need to do that in this (or any) country. |
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captainamerica Regular Member
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When I got into my teens it amazed me to find out that our government was more afraid of us than most of us were of our government. As you know (and so do our public servants), the Second Amendment is the only one that guarantees all the rest. And the sad thing is, our government takes our freedom largely one regulation at a time, slowly, methodically, inch by inch, piece by piece. Like a glacier that moves 1 to 3 inches per year but 500 feet over the long haul. Course there are now 1000's of firearm regulations. Note as an example not long ago I was a law abiding Missourian until we went right instead of left after a gas stop and a couple of miles later we ended up crossing the bridge into Quincy, IL. At that very moment we became felons (not unlike a communist country) deserving of jail time and further loss of our rights. Government by the people, for the people, and of the people works best when term limits and accountability for their service is not only expected, but required. Our forefathers knew how to hold the government accountable but all we care about is our golf tee time, our kids soccor practice, getting to Starbucks for some mocha-latte before they close, and picking up which take-out for dinner tonight. Wake up America! Tomahawk wrote: mvpel wrote:Kind of pitiful that you have to wiggle through all these BS legal technicalities to exercise a fundamental human right. |
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junglebob Regular Member
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CaptainAmerica, Some of us Illinoisans are trying to change things at Illinoiscarry.com. Some of us already have non-resident licenses from Florida, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire and Utah and we excercise our rights when outside of the Peoples Republic of Illinois. A tip to travelers through "right denied Illinois" if stopped at a sobriety checkpoint or for other reason excercise your 4th amendment right to say no to a request to search your vehicle. I'd also avoid the Chicago area like the plague. |
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tony Regular Member
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My ? is can I open carry on my property? this is what I was arrested for. it was not for open carry in the car. It was open carry on my property, when I walked a unloaded gun from my home to my car the officer observed the gun in a hulster hanging from my hand. the officer did not stop me on my property becuase he needed back up and that took ten minutes, so he followed me for ten minutes. I am a Florida resident that has punchiest a gun for my protection. I have been charged with open carry of a firearm 790.053. The situation is I had guest visiting with children and did not fell comfortable leaving my gun at home. Did not have my license yet so could not conceal my firearm, so I unload my gun place it in a holster and carry it to my car, place it in the glove box and drive away. Ten minutes later a police officer pulls me over with four other cars to assist in a takedown. Now I have been charged with open carry of a firearm. So how can I do this, if I conceal the gun I will be committing a felony and if I don’t it is a misdemeanor? How do I get my gun from my house to my car without becoming a criminal? The important part the kids are safe at my house! There is a level of responsibility in being a gun owner, and I thought that was me. |
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HankT State Researcher
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tony wrote: My ? is can I open carry on my property? this is what I was arrested for. it was not for open carry in the car. It was open carry on my property, when I walked a unloaded gun from my home to my car the officer observed the gun in a hulster hanging from my hand. the officer did not stop me on my property becuase he needed back up and that took ten minutes, so he followed me for ten minutes. Did you have any ammo on you? Do you have a separate home or do you have a condo? Did the arresting officer say that he was charging you for carry on your property? What did he say exactly? |
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tony Regular Member
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Here’s the run down. I took the charge, he got me on a tech. My car was parked on the sidewalk and that is not my property. So I open carried on public property when I put my foot on the sidewalk. Guilty, I have to pay court cost, with hold and return of my gun. This is not his original story he told me, he side I can not open carry any where. What is it can I open carry on my property? |
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HankT State Researcher
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tony wrote: Here’s the run down. I took the charge, he got me on a tech. My car was parked on the sidewalk and that is not my property. So I open carried on public property when I put my foot on the sidewalk. Guilty, I have to pay court cost, with hold and return of my gun. Curtilage is an important word and concept for you. Did you have any ammo on you? |
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ralphb72 Regular Member
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Tony, GET A LAWYER, don't agree to anything or admit anything until you talk with your laywer, stop talking about this on here until after everytyhing is settled (anyone can read this here), then come back and update us. Last edited on Tue Sep 11th, 2007 04:29 pm by ralphb72 |
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bayboy42 Regular Member 
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Hey Ralph....read Tony's last post a little closer....looks to me like things are already settled... I took the charge, he got me on a tech. My car was parked on the sidewalk and that is not my property. So I open carried on public property when I put my foot on the sidewalk. Guilty, I have to pay court cost, with hold and return of my gun. |
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ralphb72 Regular Member
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Yea I was kind of afraid it read that way too but took a chance that he maybee hasn't signed the paperwork yet or still has time to see a lawyer before a hearing etc... |
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cavscout Regular Member
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tony wrote: I am a Florida resident that has punchiest a gun for my protection. I have been charged with open carry of a firearm 790.053. The situation is I had guest visiting with children and did not fell comfortable leaving my gun at home. Did not have my license yet so could not conceal my firearm, so I unload my gun place it in a holster and carry it to my car, place it in the glove box and drive away. Ten minutes later a police officer pulls me over with four other cars to assist in a takedown. Now I have been charged with open carry of a firearm. So how can I do this, if I conceal the gun I will be committing a felony and if I don’t it is a misdemeanor? How do I get my gun from my house to my car without becoming a criminal? The important part the kids are safe at my house! There is a level of responsibility in being a gun owner, and I thought that was me. Under FL law, you had to have it 'encased' while going from your house to your car. FL 790.25 para 3. (l) A person traveling by private conveyance when the weapon is securely encased or in a public conveyance when the weapon is securely encased and not in the person's manual possession; (m) A person while carrying a pistol unloaded and in a secure wrapper, concealed or otherwise, from the place of purchase to his or her home or place of business or to a place of repair or back to his or her home or place of business; (n) A person possessing arms at his or her home or place of business; http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0790/SEC25.HTM&Title=-%3E2007-%3ECh0790-%3ESection%2025#0790.25 Last edited on Fri Sep 21st, 2007 04:14 pm by cavscout |
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(h) A person engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition; Your honor, I was going camping after I dropped the kids off. Why no gear in my car? I was picking someone up with the gear on the way. |
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GIdeon_70 Regular Member
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Hello! When you desire to carry in florida, and want to carry in the glove box, it is legal to do so as long as the weapon is in a holster. It must be a snap style holster so that it takes more than three movements to access the gun. Open Glove Box, Remove weapon, remove weapon from Holster. You do not have to have a concealed permit to carry in a snap holster in your glove box. That it was unloaded was in your favor. I don't think they were supposed to charge you if it is unloaded, but not positive. Florida laws on gun rights are on the internet, a good starting place to search is http://www.myflorida.com Good luck. |
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GIdeon_70 Regular Member
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Um, there is your defense right there. If I am not mistaken, militia is defined as (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. (b) The classes of the militia are— (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.[1] Use with EXTREME Caution! |
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juking Regular Member
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GIdeon_70 wrote: Hello! Sir, I beg to differ! Please provide documentation. What statute are you refering to? Please copy and paste the details here. Thank you. |
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GIdeon_70 Regular Member
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http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/index.html This site will explain florida laws, and there is a phone number that will connect you to a live person that will be happy to explain what you can and cannot do with a gun. Also, if you will contact the state police, or your local police department they will clarify what the laws are in the state, as well as any local alws that will apply. As for carrying in the glove compartment, it is legal to do so in florida, as long as the weapon is securely encased in a holster that has a snap to secure it. It may be carried int he glove box or trunk. Thanks you for taking the time to disagree with me. |
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juking Regular Member
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GIdeon_70 wrote: http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/index.html Sir, There is no three step rule! Loaded or unloaded is legal, as long as it's securely encased. No holster is required, snap or no snap, as long as it's securely encased. A handgun can be kept in a vehicle in a snapped holster--anywhere--loaded or unloaded! You wrote: "When you desire to carry in florida, and want to carry in the glove box, it is legal to do so as long as the weapon is in a holster. It must be a snap style holster so that it takes more than three movements to access the gun. Open Glove Box, Remove weapon, remove weapon from Holster. You do not have to have a concealed permit to carry in a snap holster in your glove box. That it was unloaded was in your favor. I don't think they were supposed to charge you if it is unloaded, but not positive". Last edited on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 05:08 am by juking |
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StrictlySig Guest
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I have to disagree on the 3 step myth also. If you live in FL. get Jon Gutmachers' book 'Florida Firearms Law Use and Ownership'. He's a lawyer. from chapter six -->" legally carry a handgun in a vehicle, with or without a concealed permit, here's the short answer on whats definately 'securely encased': a. in a snapped holster- anywhere- loaded or unloaded. b. in a closed console- loaded or unloaded. c. in a closed glove compartment- loaded or unloaded. d. in a zippered gun case- loaded or unloaded. e. in any other type of _closed_ container which the gun cannot be fired from unless withdrawn- loaded or unloaded. " " If you do the above you are legal in FL. except in certain special situations related to schools. " <-- from chapter 6 It does'nt hurt to read FS. 790.* either. Obviously you dont want a holstered handgun visible to someone if they look into the car. There is no 3 step law or requirement. It is one step: from a snapped holster to fire. From the glovebox or console (no holster required) to fire. etc. All for what its worth in our tangled knotted fluster cluck of state and fed gun laws. If Tonys story is true and accurate he simply had a friggin A-hole LEO. What a surprise. |
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deleted. Last edited on Mon Nov 26th, 2007 01:12 am by sccrref |
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Fallguy Regular Member 
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If I'm reading all of the OP's post correctly...even though they stopped him in his car, what he was charged with was for the brief moment he was on the sidewalk between his property and his car. Which seems awfully picky to me, but depending on the judge and LEO could stick I guess. |
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tony wrote: My ? is can I open carry on my property? this is what I was arrested for. it was not for open carry in the car. It was open carry on my property, when I walked a unloaded gun from my home to my car the officer observed the gun in a hulster hanging from my hand. the officer did not stop me on my property becuase he needed back up and that took ten minutes, so he followed me for ten minutes.  Should've gotten a lawyer. |
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GIdeon_70 Regular Member
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Unless covered under the exceptions, it is unlawful to openly carry on or about the person any firearm, or to carry a concealed firearm on or about the person without a license. Exceptions: 1. Persons having firearms at their home or place of business.
That is the law. You can carry at your own home or place of business without a license. If you had it on your hip, fully loaded, and were on your property - then you are within the law. http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/FLSL.pdf You should go to the NRA wbsite, call the number there or memberships and talk to the operator about being vconnected to their legal department. They will help you find a lawyer, file paperwork and fight this. If you have already been found guilty, then still call them because you can file an appeal. You should do this for everyone, because when the police get out of hand (as they obviously did) it hurts us all. This link - is to the florida website on the gun laws.
Let us know how thigns come out please, I am curious. I routinely take my guns from my house to my car openly. |
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Fallguy Regular Member
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GIdeon_70 wrote:
Yes, but is your car in your driveway/garage still on your poperty or on a public street like the OP's? I still think it was wrong to charge him. Last edited on Mon Nov 26th, 2007 03:42 pm by Fallguy |
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ChopperCopper Regular Member
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You can put your gun in a box of CrackerJacks, and as long as the paper lid was closed, it is legal. Last edited on Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 04:55 am by ChopperCopper |
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StrictlySig wrote: a. in a snapped holster- anywhere- loaded or unloaded.Any idea what a "snapped holster" means? For example, would a BlackHawk SERPA's finger release qualify? It's more secure than a snapped full-flap holsters or a holster with a thumb brake snap, but maybe because there's no actual snap involved the judge wouldn't call it snapped? |
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brboyer Regular Member
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Serpa's are fine. |
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GIdeon_70 wrote:
That is the law. You can carry at your own home or place of business without a license. If you had it on your hip, fully loaded, and were on your property - then you are within the law.I disagree. Chapter 790 WEAPONS AND FIREARMS 790.053 Open carrying of weapons.-- (1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. (2) A person may openly carry, for purposes of lawful self-defense: (a) A self-defense chemical spray. (b) A nonlethal stun gun or dart-firing stun gun or other nonlethal electric weapon or device that is designed solely for defensive purposes. (3) Any person violating this section commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. No exceptions listed for a firearm. From NRA: Unless covered under the exceptions, it is unlawful to openly carry on or about the person any firearm, or to carry a concealed firearm on or about the person without a license. Exceptions: 1. Persons having firearms at their home or place of business. I read that to say that the NRA is saying that you cannot openly carry period, but you can carry concealed. That is not what the florida statutes say. 790.250 subsection 5 states. POSSESSION IN PRIVATE CONVEYANCE.--Notwithstanding subsection (2), it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use. Nothing herein contained prohibits the carrying of a legal firearm other than a handgun anywhere in a private conveyance when such firearm is being carried for a lawful use. Nothing herein contained shall be construed to authorize the carrying of a concealed firearm or other weapon on the person. This subsection shall be liberally construed in favor of the lawful use, ownership, and possession of firearms and other weapons, including lawful self-defense as provided in s. 776.012. I am not lawyer but that sounds to me like you cannot legally carry a handgun concealed even in your own home without a CCW. Someone please point me to the statutes that say otherwise. |
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brboyer Regular Member
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flcaptainbill wrote: GIdeon_70 wrote: 790.25(3) LAWFUL USES.--The provisions of ss. 790.053 and 790.06 do not apply in the following instances, and, despite such sections, it is lawful for the following persons to own, possess, and lawfully use firearms and other weapons, ammunition, and supplies for lawful purposes: (n) A person possessing arms at his or her home or place of business; |
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flcaptainbill Regular Member
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thanks brboyer, That clears up the open carry and my CCW should be here within 81 days so CCW won't be an issue then. |
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brboyer Regular Member
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flcaptainbill wrote: thanks brboyer, Welcome to the club. |
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flcaptainbill Regular Member
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brboyer wrote:
Thanks, Now I just have to find something to carry and how to carry it. |
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MINK45 Regular Member
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From your house to car is private property carry any way you want . |
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brboyer Regular Member
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MINK45 wrote: From your house to car is private property carry any way you want . Not if car is parked on the street. |
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U4TSAF2 Regular Member
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WHAT??????????? When it comes to something as serious as this, when it comes to something that could result in a long jail sentence, why do people, go with the flow and make things up? It is all too frequent that I hear the "3-step" rule and it HAS NO LEGAL BASIS.  NONE, ZILCH, ZERO! |
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flcaptainbill Regular Member
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U4TSAF2 wrote: WHAT??????????? Aint that the truth. No "Three-Step" rule. "(5) POSSESSION IN PRIVATE CONVEYANCE.--Notwithstanding subsection (2), it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use. Nothing herein contained prohibits the carrying of a legal firearm other than a handgun anywhere in a private conveyance when such firearm is being carried for a lawful use. Nothing herein contained shall be construed to authorize the carrying of a concealed firearm or other weapon on the person. This subsection shall be liberally construed in favor of the lawful use, ownership, and possession of firearms and other weapons, including lawful self-defense as provided in s. 776.012." "Securely encased" means in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; or in a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access." |
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mach116993 Regular Member
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tony wrote: I am a Florida resident that has punchiest a gun for my protection. I have been charged with open carry of a firearm 790.053. The situation is I had guest visiting with children and did not fell comfortable leaving my gun at home. Did not have my license yet so could not conceal my firearm, so I unload my gun place it in a holster and carry it to my car, place it in the glove box and drive away. Ten minutes later a police officer pulls me over with four other cars to assist in a takedown. Now I have been charged with open carry of a firearm. So how can I do this, if I conceal the gun I will be committing a felony and if I don’t it is a misdemeanor? How do I get my gun from my house to my car without becoming a criminal? The important part the kids are safe at my house! There is a level of responsibility in being a gun owner, and I thought that was me. here is an idea next time you want to take your weapon to your vehicle put the open carry weapon in one hand and a fishing pole in the other. |
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Glock23shooter Regular Member 
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Looks like you got arrested by an uneducated officer and maybe he can face a penalty for that charge he got you with. It's my worse anger to ever have to deal with LEO's like that but check this website out and this should be able to help you! http://www.flaguns.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=2 This is one of the best Florida gun forums on the net. you can view or find out anything you want and will 99.5% help you out with anything you need! Sorry to see what happen to you tony, hope it made out ok for you? |
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Taz3 Regular Member 
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Get a lawyer. It is totaly legal and acceptable to carry open or concealed on your own property in Florida. Loaded or unloaded, in a holster out of a holster. Just get a lawyer. Do not let them get away with this. |
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Johnny_B Regular Member
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Taz3 wrote:Get a lawyer. It is totaly legal and acceptable to carry open or concealed on your own property in Florida. Loaded or unloaded, in a holster out of a holster. Just get a lawyer. Do not let them get away with this. Me thinks your a little late to the party, i think theres some stale chips on top of the fridge for you to eat  |
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Decoligny Regular Member 
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ralphb72 wrote: Tony, GET A LAWYER, don't agree to anything or admit anything until you talk with your laywer, stop talking about this on here until after everytyhing is settled (anyone can read this here), then come back and update us. NECRO THREAD. If the OP was convicted, I am sure he has served his time and is probably off of whatever probation they taked on. |
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Taz3 Regular Member
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Me noticed this after I wrote it. But Thanks for pointing it out. (g) |
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