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Thundar Regular Member 
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I have started to OC in Hampton Roads and have seen a lot of this: Use this thread to document our experiences in Hampton Roads. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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6 Nov 07 - Election Day - OC in polling place (Local Church). No big issues, but clearly some were uncomfortable. No issue in Great Bridge Zoots Cleaners, Dollar Tree or McDonald's. No issue in Hickory Chartway FCU, Navy FCU or Farm Fresh. I went to send a Western Union Money Gram at the Hickory Food Lion. Two Hispanic men who were also trying to send money via Western Union practically ran away from the counter. |
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Slowhand Regular Member 
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Thundar wrote: 6 Nov 07 - Election Day - OC in polling place (Local Church). No big issues, but clearly some were uncomfortable. I though OC in a church was a no-no unless you had permission? Am I mistaken? |
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peter nap Regular Member 
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I though OC in a church was a no-no unless you had permission? Am I mistaken? As far as I know you can't carry in any way, in a Church with or without permission. |
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Freeflight Activist Member 
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peter nap wrote: I though OC in a church was a no-no unless you had permission? Am I mistaken? You can if you have a good reason... Personal Protection is a good reason... I carry all the time, every week in church...CC but I still carry. If fact the Head deacon what's in charge for the week is required to carry too... without letting the sheeple know. That's two armed while the church is meeting (every time the church is meeting). In fact the Secular Laws don't understand this... but when the people of the church are not there, the building is just an empty building... not a church. |
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peter nap Regular Member
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http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-283 Your right....need to keep my mouth shut until I look it up! |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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I took my Great Dane to the Vet Yesterday OC. No worries. I could hear everyone while me and Lancelot (My Dane) waited for the vet. No one was "Discussing" firearms or Guns... On the way out a Little old lady saw my 1911 and said "YOU HAVE A GUN!!!" in excited tones.I poured on the southern charm and said "Why yes Ma'am! Don't you? Have a good evening Ma'am” (as the Great dane pulls me out the front door) |
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peter nap Regular Member
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Why yes Ma'am! Don't you I like that one !  |
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Thundar wrote:
I OC almost everywhere in VA beach, Norfolk and local area and have never had a problem. Although every Navy FCU that I go to has a no guns sign so i do all my buisness outside at the drive up teller or atm. Thunder which NFCU do you go to? |
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Thundar Regular Member
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I use the brand new office at the corner of Mt Pleasant Rd. and Centerville Turnpike in Chesapeake. |
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peter nap wrote: I though OC in a church was a no-no unless you had permission? Am I mistaken? § 18.2-283. Carrying dangerous weapon to place of religious worship. If any person carry any gun, pistol, bowie knife, dagger or other dangerous weapon, without good and sufficient reason, to a place of worship while a meeting for religious purposes is being held at such place he shall be guilty of a Class 4 misdemeanor.  This ONLY applies when a service is being held. And, even durring a service, the "good and sufficient reason" is still kind of up in the air. There has been no court ruling or AG opinion on what exactly a good and sufficient reason is, but I believe protection of my life and the lives of those around me is a good and sufficient enough reason. However, that may yet be determined by a judge. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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eter nap wrote: I though OC in a church was a no-no unless you had permission? Am I mistaken? It took some research to ensure my OC was legal. 1. I went early when there were no services, or even "open time for prayer and reflection." Last year there was no service, but the Church was open for people to pray or reflect. Last year I voted with my Sig in the truck.The church wasn't even open early this morning, only the multipurpose room for voting.  2. I also made sure that there was not a kindergarten in the church. I don't know if a church day care that includes kindergarten is a K-12 school, but until somebody else establishes Virginia case law I will not push it.  It really sux when stupid gun laws make honest people go to these extremes just to exercise their rights. |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member 
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[This is from an old post of mine. You could add Riverwalk Restaurant, County Grill, George's Family Restaurant, Starbucks, and other places I can't recall right now. Overall, an easy place to OC in.] (all York County, unless otherwise noted) East Coast Gas Raceway gas WaWa 7-11, Grafton Grafton True Value Hardware A and N sports Food Lion Eckerds Rite Aid Advance Auto Winfree's Firearms Firestone Tire and Auto Lowe's, NN HQ, NN Radisson Hotel, Norfolk Aamco Transmission, NN Auto Zone Harley-Davidson Movie Scene videos Roses Dep't store Wal-Mart CostCo, NN Movie Stop, NN Heritage Barbershop Hallmark Cards Dollar Tree Bass Pro, Hampton UPS store K-Mart ColdStone Icecream, NN Barnes and Noble, NN Verizon Wireless, NN Northern Tool and Equipment, NN There were others, but you get the drift. Since I have had no negative experiences, and generally no response from people at all, I'd have to rate the whole thing an A. Last edited on Wed Nov 7th, 2007 02:18 am by Dutch Uncle |
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zoom6zoom Regular Member 
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Just google "church shooting" and you'll have your "good and sufficient reason" covered. |
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Mike Super Moderator
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peter nap wrote: http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-283 Just in time to avoid the penalty flag.  |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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I agree Dutch Uncle, We have it good here. I took your list and fixed it for my OC exp.
I am shocked and amazed that we havn't run into each other... Never a problem, Leo's just nod and go on about their business. Last edited on Tue Aug 5th, 2008 07:25 pm by Freeflight |
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Thundar Regular Member
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7 November No problems: 7-11, Rt 13 just south of Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel DMV - Chesapeake office on Greenbrier Parkway. |
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mrguppy Regular Member 
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walmart off of nimo |
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For those that carry at church, just be careful of one thing: many churches are also religious schools. 18.2-308.1 specifically states that it applies to all public, private, and religious K-12 schools. If your church also runs a K-12 school in the same building during the week, you are committing a class 6 felony if you enter the structure. http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-308.1 B. If any person possesses any firearm designed or intended to expel a projectile by action of an explosion of a combustible material while such person is upon (i) any public, private or religious elementary, middle or high school, including buildings and grounds; (ii) that portion of any property open to the public and then exclusively used for school-sponsored functions or extracurricular activities while such functions or activities are taking place; or (iii) any school bus owned or operated by any such school, he shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony; however, if the person possesses any firearm within a public, private or religious elementary, middle or high school building and intends to use, or attempts to use, such firearm, or displays such weapon in a threatening manner, such person shall be sentenced to a mandatory minimum term of imprisonment of five years to be served consecutively with any other sentence. |
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GMZ Regular Member
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I just picked up a Serpa from The Armory tonight so I will be OCing this weekend. |
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mrguppy Regular Member
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was up at walmart tonight with my ma. well she had to use the bathroom and asked if i could do the whole check out thing so that we could leave and not waste time. so i went back to the video section to check out. the employee back there(did not catch his name, had black hair that was a little long) told me that i could not open carry. not the exact words but as close as i can remember him: you know i retired from the sheriffs dept. up in maryland me: (wondering what brought this up) ok him: so what do you do me: i am in between jobs at the moment him: so your not a cop me: no why him: why do you have a gun then me: personal protection. him: you know we just had someone arrested because they wanted to carry a gun around town with them. me: you do know that it is legal according to your corporate policy. him: well we have a bank in here and it is apart of the store and that is why the took him away. they waited for him outside. me: well it might have been something else then. him: well you do what you want just remember i told you i paid and left to go back up front. at that point i went to one of the managers to ask them about this. the lady that i talked to said that she did not know and went to ask another manager or he was one step up cuz he wore a dress shirt and dress pants. he then came over and told me dont worry that if i want to OC or CC in the store then i m more then welcome. he then went to say that he has had a problem with this guy and would deal with him later. at that point i had not told him who it was that i had the problem with. he then went to tell me that he was sorry and to have a good night. all in all the guy up front manager or someone high up took me by surprise. left feeling pretty good. later on went into radio shack were one of the stores employee asked if i was legal when i said yes we went on with the convo like nothing had happened. all in all good night,  oh and i will post the walmart story in a new post. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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mrguppy wrote: was up at walmart tonight with my ma. well she had to use the bathroom and asked if i could do the whole check out thing so that we could leave and not waste time. so i went back to the video section to check out. the employee back there(did not catch his name, had black hair that was a little long) told me that i could not open carry.Which WalMart? |
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Thundar Regular Member
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No OC Problems today. Farm Fresh Taylor's Do it Center Rite Aid Shell Gasoline Bug eyes but no comment at Bank of America |
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mrguppy Regular Member
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nimo pkwy |
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mrguppy Regular Member
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Thundar wrote: No OC Problems today. which bank of america |
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Thundar Regular Member
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mrguppy wrote: Thundar wrote: Downtown Greatbridge. |
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mrguppy Regular Member
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GMZ wrote: I just picked up a Serpa from The Armory tonight so I will be OCing this weekend. where is the armory? i go to a and p arms and down range tactical when i need something for my gun |
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mrguppy wrote: where is the armory? 5313 Indian River Rd Virginia Beach, VA 23464 http://www.the-armory.com/ |
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GMZ Regular Member
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mrguppy wrote: GMZ wrote:I just picked up a Serpa from The Armory tonight so I will be OCing this weekend. They are pretty good, I have bought my last few guns and quite a bit of ammo from them. Where is A & P and the other place at? |
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GMZ Regular Member
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Popped my OC cherry! Advanced Auto on Nimmo Wal-Mart on Nimmo Pkwy Performance Bike on VB Blvd Harris Teeter @ Oceanfront First was AA, not even a second glance, then after I finished paying and turned to leave I got a "holy @#$%!" from the cashier. Then at Wal-Mart no one really noticed until I was in line waiting to check out, no one wanted to stand behind me, the next line over was about 20 people long, so I got a chuckle from that. The bike shop gave nary a peep. At Harris Teeter I was paying when an attractive older woman came up behind me and started to unload her groceries, then she must have seen it for she looked at me and slowly backed away. More chuckles from me. All in all a good time, definately going to be doing more of it! |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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What are you doing to frighten all these people? Do you look like a skinhead with an attitude or something? By the way, last weekend my wife and I went to dinner with 3 other couples at the Rivers Inn in Gloucester Point. I don't think anyone even noticed. Last edited on Sat Nov 10th, 2007 08:49 pm by Dutch Uncle |
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GMZ Regular Member
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Dutch Uncle wrote: What are you doing to frighten all these people? Do you look like a skinhead with an attitude or something? Im actually growing my hair out for the winter  I just stand there with a funny smirk on my face, dont know what the big deal is! |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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"Funny smirk" can run a wide gamut. Are you talking Mr. Rogers/Captain Kangaroo or Jack Nicholson/ Anthony Hopkins? |
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VApatriot wrote: peter nap wrote:I though OC in a church was a no-no unless you had permission? Am I mistaken? A don't forget what might be included in a service (meeting for religious purposes): confessional, baptism, christening, prayer meeting, group meditation... |
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GMZ Regular Member
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Dutch Uncle wrote: "Funny smirk" can run a wide gamut. Are you talking Mr. Rogers/Captain Kangaroo or Jack Nicholson/ Anthony Hopkins? Indeed it can! Id say a combo of Mr. Rogers' innocence, Jack's cynicism, and Anthony's confidence. Honestly I just stroll along as if I dont have a care in the world  |
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mrguppy Regular Member
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GMZ wrote: mrguppy wrote:GMZ wrote:I just picked up a Serpa from The Armory tonight so I will be OCing this weekend. a & p arms is near the mall of of lynhaven pkwy behind the bingo place, tell them that you heard about it from josh, they wont treat you wrong. down range is on dam neck and holloand across from bp also tell them i sent you, afternoon guy is the best to talk to. i should be goin up to a & p tomorrow to shoot a bit. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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10 Nov - No problems Home Depot DMV Target Walgreens |
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mrguppy Regular Member
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went up to my friends work last night. kellys tavern off of laskin rd walked in got changefor a few pool games from the bartender. no problems. no odd looks nothing. my friend called me to the front where him and his girl where. all of a sudden i got a "oh my god" and a "do you have a permit for that?" friend steped in before i could and told them that i do not need a permit. end of that. went back with his girl and played one or two games of pool when the bartinder walks over and says "you cant have agun in here unless your a on duty cop." i asked why and she replied "because we serve alcohol." i told he that the law states that as long as you open carry you are alound in a restaurant that serves alcohol i even told he that i would go ahead and disarm and next time i would bring up the law for her. this is what i got, "well it is now kellys policy that you can not carry a gun in here." told my friends girl that i would be right back, went outside to disarm, when a man pulled up next to me and asked what kind of gun i had on my hip. me and the guy talked for a little bit, said he wanted to look at getting a gun and that he would head up to a & p. all and all the bartender sucked. i would have just left but my friend did not get oof few 2 more hours and i gave his girl a ride up there. why cant some people accept that a 19 knows more about some laws then they do. oh yeah i went to leave and found three marked cars outside of kellys. was told by my friend that there have never been that many there unless something was or was about to happen. |
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Mike Super Moderator
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mrguppy wrote:
You should have left the establishment and taken your aprty with you - by backing down, and continueing to spend money there, you have made their policy a success. |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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OC American General Finance Denbigh (By the CC Pizza) No issues but I'm sure my "Companion" was not noticed. Then to Food lion (Same Shopping Center) No issues. There where some very young Jr Saggy Breeches lollygaggers by the front door of the Food Lion The admiral and I where coming in as a Elderly Black woman came out.. She was noticed by us to be Rolling her eyes and smirking and shaking her head at the saggy breeched Lollygaggers... On our way out the lollygaggers noticed my Kimber raptor ... and cleared out of dodge before we made it to the jeep. |
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mrguppy Regular Member
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Mike wrote:
oh i did not spend anymore money. and the only reason i did not leave was my friends girl and it is a pretty far drive for me . i am going to give corporate a call tomorrow about what happened Last edited on Mon Nov 12th, 2007 07:26 pm by mrguppy |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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The Tidewater OC dinner group has gone to Kelly's Tavern at Pembroke Mall a couple of times and had zero problems....and I'm certain the presence of a dozen armed patrons didn't go unnoticed. We were even encouraged to return if memory serves, so the talk about "policy" may be a lot of hot air. A security guard stopped us to tell us the Mall had a no-guns policy, but said nothing about the Tavern per se. You did the right thing by leaving when asked/told to, since refusing can get you a trespass charge that will stick. I'd suggest not calling corporate, since they may not even have any policy about OC now, but may well create one just to satisfy the fears of the liability office if you make an issue of it. |
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mrguppy Regular Member
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how would i go about finding out if she was just bsing or not, so that it does not come back with something to hurt ocing there. for now i m just goin to disarm before goin into the place till they say different |
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Thundar Regular Member
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12 Nov OC with no problems- Great Bridge Citgo Great Bridge Dollar tree Advance Auto - South Battlefield Blvd. |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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mrguppy wrote: how would i go about finding out if she was just bsing or not, so that it does not come back with something to hurt ocing there. for now i m just goin to disarm before goin into the place till they say different I suppose you could ask her next time to show you the written policy, or ask to speak with a general manager if there is someone above her at the place. If there are no signs on the doors, maybe Bubba Ron could scope it out for one of our dinners. |
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Dutch Uncle wrote: mrguppy wrote:how would i go about finding out if she was just bsing or not, so that it does not come back with something to hurt ocing there. for now i m just goin to disarm before goin into the place till they say different yeah next time i am up there i will ask. most of the time i get the ? "why do you need to carry in the first place". as far as i know there are no signs on the door. i would be up for a oc dinner there. |
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GMZ Regular Member
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Ran a few errands today, no problems. Lori's Barbershop on 30th & Pacific Rite Aid on VB Blvd & Arctic Harris Teeter on 28th & Arctic |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OC with no problems at: Chesapeake PD Farm Fresh Gas On Centerville Turnpine Great Bridge Bicycle |
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Dutch Uncle wrote: If there are no signs on the doors, maybe Bubba Ron could scope it out for one of our dinners. I guess I haven't been reading as much as I should....We're leaving this afternoon for the Peoples Republic of New Jersey....we should be back Sunday with an extra passenger, and the following weekend we'll be taking her back. So it'll be a while before I get to scope out the Kelly's Tavern on Laskin Rd. Don't forget our OCDO at the Village Inn on Monday the 19th at 7pm....(shameless plug)  |
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mrguppy Regular Member
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Bubba Ron wrote: Dutch Uncle wrote:If there are no signs on the doors, maybe Bubba Ron could scope it out for one of our dinners. dont mean to sound like a fool but what is the ocdo and which village inn |
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OCed at GameStop at Centerville/Mt Pleasant. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OC at: Harris Teeter Greenbriar Parkway Food Lion (Soon to be Bloom??) Centerville Turnpike Mr. EZ Pan Shop Military Highway |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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mrguppy wrote:
OCDO is Open Carry dot org. I think Bubba discussed which Village Inn earlier in the post. |
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swatpro911 Regular Member
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can I carry one of these openly? We should carry big guns=more respect from the bad guy Attached Image (viewed 919 times): |
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Neplusultra Regular Member 
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swatpro911 wrote: can I carry one of these openly? We should carry big guns=more respect from the bad guy Only if you have a CCP :^). |
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mrguppy Regular Member
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Dutch Uncle wrote: mrguppy wrote:  wow do i feel stupid right now |
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mrguppy wrote: Dutch Uncle wrote:mrguppy wrote: That's OK, we all feel stupid from time to time. Just make sure there are very long intervals between those times and you'll be fine. As in do not follow my example. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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Wednesday 21 November: Chesapeake City Hall - Commisioner of the Revenue Food Lion - Centerville Turnpike Chartway Credit Union inside the Farm Fresh Centerville Turnpike HarrisTeeter Greenbrier Parkway |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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Dutch Uncle wrote: mrguppy wrote: ...or in the instance above it could mean....Open Carry Dining Out....that is what we we do a couple of times each month. I only know of one Village Inn in the area, is there another one? |
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Thundar Regular Member
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Friday 23 November - Black Friday M Wireless -Brand new place , behind the new Paradox Restaurant Near Greenbrier Mall. I was their first customer. After buying a Crackberry Curve I got up to look at bluetooth headsets and the girl said to the other salesman "Look he has a gun, be nice to him." Very friendly, no problems A&N by Greenbrier Mall @Lantec Bank Leslies Pool Walmart |
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Thundar Regular Member
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25 November: Hampton Convention Center (Gun Show) McDonald's Mercury Blvd. Bass Pro Shop Outdoor World |
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mrguppy Regular Member
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Thundar wrote: 25 November: last time i was up at bass pro shop they told me i had to have a trigger lock on it next time if i want to oc |
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mrguppy wrote: last time i was up at bass pro shop they told me i had to have a trigger lock on it next time if i want to oc I heard that people have had problems there so I looked for a sign but did not see one. No problems today. The nice old lady who was handing out sales flyers saw it, the guys behind the gun counter saw it and the check out clerk saw it. No comments from anybody. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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O.C. witout incident on 28 November: Centerville Turnpike Farm Fresh Great Bridge Walgreens |
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mrguppy Regular Member
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Thundar wrote: mrguppy wrote:last time i was up at bass pro shop they told me i had to have a trigger lock on it next time if i want to oc the lady waited till i had checked out and was about to leave before see asked me was nice about it though. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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mrguppy wrote: Thundar wrote:mrguppy wrote:last time i was up at bass pro shop they told me i had to have a trigger lock on it next time if i want to oc So this store that sells guns and open carry holsters waited until you had made your purchases and demonstrated that you were a responsible gun user before asking you to put a trigger lock on your openly carried firearm? Do they even make an open carry holster that accommodates a trigger lock? Actually I think we have a new kind of open carry. Yes we have had IWB (Inside the Waistband) OWB outside the waistband, Mexican Carry, shoulder holster and ankle holster. .......... Now we have a new one - the trigger locked open carry. I recommend that we give the instigator of this new type of open carry full credit and forever refer to trigger lock mandated open carry as Bass Pro Shop (BPS) Open Carry!!! |
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Thundar Regular Member
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01 Decmber O.C. without incident at: Battle of Great Bridge Reenactment - Along Southern Bank of Chesapeake & Albemarle Canal Zoots in Great Bridge Bank of America in Great Bridge Food Lion in Great Bridge. Locks Point Park |
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Thundar wrote: mrguppy wrote:Thundar wrote:mrguppy wrote:last time i was up at bass pro shop they told me i had to have a trigger lock on it next time if i want to oc bpsbut yeah the lady pulled me over just as i paid a nice bit to them to tell me that, next time i m goin to just oc and see if they say anything. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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3-10 Dec without incident: Walgreens in Great Bridge Bank of America in Great Bridge Zoots in Great Bridge Locks Point Park Great Bridge Bicyclery (Contract Post Office) Farm Fresh on Centerville Turnpike Chesapeake City Hall Taylor's Do It Center in Great Bridge Home Depot on South Battlefield Blvd. |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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Food lion, oyster Point and Warwick Wine Store. Patrick Henry Mall Parking lot where the elderly woman was shot. (Waiting on my Daughter) Got out of the Jeep for just a quick Fire-Drill (Checking the tailgate) Saw the (Upgraded Security) A big TRUCK with Yellow Lights.. they used to have a little SUV... boy I really feel safe now...No trouble.. |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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Welcome to my boring life. Sam's Club Wal-Mart Farm Fresh CC inside Patrick henry Mall (No signs at the entrance still) Had a nice Mocha at the beanery... |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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Just took my wife and younger daughter to Olive Garden on Jefferson Ave, NN. No problems, though I understand OG has been considered anti. In view of all the recent murders in the so-called "gun free zones", I'm sure I would have had a zesty discussion with the mgr. had he tried to eject me "to maintain a safe eating environment for other patrons". |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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Stopped by East Coast on Rt 17 (by winfree's Firearms) I was CC under my Jacket to get the Admiral some cigs There was this real "Twitchie" guy just getting ready to check out, he knocked over a box of Slim-Jims or something like them off the counter and all over the place. the Lady behind the register looked at him.. like "Well, are you going to leave them there...?" he says in a real @#$%ish kind of way.. "Well its your own damn fault for putting them there...." and proceeded to put his items in front of her to check out. It was clear to me that the guy was a complete ass and was not going to pick up his mess... so I bent over and picked up the box (now empty because its contents are scattered all over the floor) and put it back on the counter where it was. he watched me do this (I'm fairly sure I gave him a "Stink Eye" and I know that my jacket rode up way above my Kimber... and I also know he saw it.) All of a sudden Mr @#$% turns into Mr "I'm sorry... Here SIR I will get those..." and apologizes to the lady... Profusely... then pays her and runs out like the hounds of hell are on his heels. She says to me after he had gone "What was his problem??!!?" and we mused together as to what changed his tune.. I told her "I think he saw the light! and corrected his ways..." She thanked me for helping and I wished her a merry Christmas and left with the Admiral's supplies... |
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Thundar Regular Member
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Lots of Open Carry in the last week. Great Bridge: Bank of America, Walgreens, Taylors Do it Center, Dollar Tree, Radio Shack, Starbucks (inside Farm Fresh). Centerville Turnpike: Farm Fresh, Tropical Smoothie Cafe, Bloom, Navy Federal Credit Union Greenbriar Area: Best Buy, Target, Petsmart, Harris Teeter. Did get the from Harris Teeter check out clerk.Greenbriar Mall: Went in via the Sears lower level doors to the tool section. I didn't go into the rest of the mall. Last edited on Wed Dec 19th, 2007 02:42 pm by Thundar |
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Freeflight wrote:Stopped by East Coast on Rt 17 (by winfree's Firearms) Now, THAT was funny! Wish I were there to see that dude's face... |
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Freeflight wrote: Stopped by East Coast on Rt 17 (by winfree's Firearms) Yes, that is funny. It reminds me of the time I was OCing prior to getting my CCP. I didn't even know OCing was legal at the time. My storage complex had a series of break ins over a month or more. So I was out there patroling on foot through the area and came across four young guys parked in a car. I walked up to them in the dark and asked who they were and if they rented there. It was all yes sir, no sir :^). They were practically tripping over themselves trying to prove their innocence. They said they used their storage area for band practice and were waiting for a friend who drove a black pickup, which is the description of the vehicle doing the break-ins. I was sure these were the guys. I told them to be careful as there had been a number of break-ins and that I and a number of others were out looking for them. All this with my .45 in plain sight. There were no more break-ins after that. Last edited on Wed Dec 19th, 2007 09:27 pm by Neplusultra |
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OC to the Barber Shop.. This is the new Barber that opened up a Shop on Old Denbigh just off Warwick. A Japanese couple. she runs a Alteration shop next door. I recommend him Highly!!! Got an excellent haircut and a Japanese back massage too. (The massage has a special name but i don't remember it...) He never said a word about my firearm. Edit correct spelling errors. Sheeeesh the english natzi's on this board... Last edited on Fri Dec 21st, 2007 07:25 pm by Freeflight |
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Neplusultra wrote: Freeflight wrote:Stopped by East Coast on Rt 17 (by winfree's Firearms) I have always been convinced that OC does more good than harm. I don't know why people are so skiddish about people that OC. It's not like we are walking around with a gun in our hands. And if it scares away the bad guys, more people should be doing it. |
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Slowhand wrote:I have always been convinced that OC does more good than harm. I don't know why people are so skiddish about people that OC. It's not like we are walking around with a gun in our hands. And if it scares away the bad guys, more people should be doing it. I would have to agree. The combination of OC and CC works great together. OC so the bad guys know guns are around and CC so they don't know who has them :^). |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OC at Battlefield Walmart without problems (except for Christmas rush traffic - real bad) |
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26 Dec OC with no problems in Great Bridge: Walgreens Rite Aid 7-11 Farm Fresh Shell - the one on the corner of Battlefield & Cedar Rd. |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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Went to see the new national Treasure movie.. (Great, imo) I went OC to the movie (Farm Fresh, Books-o-Million, dollar tree first) then on to the movie AMC Hampton, The admiral and I have always used the Automated Kiosk just in the lobby to purchase tickets so I have never noticed the "Gun Buster" sign on the windows of the box-office... (The gunbuster signs are not on the entry doors or the kiosk) Another stupid GFZ So I just untuck my shirt and go to Sheath mode. Don't ask don't tell There is no way I'm not going to be able to protect myself and family especially there... Has anyone taken them on? AMC in Hampton? If so what was the outcome. I still intend to write a letter to the manager however. I forgot where I Copied this letter from... but All credit is given where credit is due and if someone on this board wrote the original I thank you (Plagiarism, is whats for dinner!!!!). To Whom It May Concern: I recently learned that your movie theatre has the following signs on the box-office window: “No Weapons Allowed” with a picture of a Gun in a Circle with a line through it”. I find this extremely disappointing, as my family loves to come to the movies and we find your facilities very comfortable. It saddens me to discover that you have chosen to exclude me from your facility because you fail to understand individual American or Human rights. Do you believe that a criminal wanting to rob your theater or its patrons, or commit even worse crimes like what happened in the Mall in Omaha or the Church in Colorado, cares about a sign on the window of the Box-office? Posting such a sign serves to inform criminals that law-abiding customers have been disarmed in your establishment. What steps are you taking to guarantee my family’s safety while watching a movie or standing in line for pop-corn, if you won’t allow me to do so? I choose to carry a firearm to defend my family, friends, myself, and those around me, our police are reactive - arriving AFTER a crime is committed. Further, our courts have ruled the police have no duty to protect citizens in advance of a crime, but to investigate and prosecute. I understand that it is my responsibility and no one else will look out for me and my family’s safety like I will. Also, I am Licensed by the State to Carry a Concealed Firearm and I hold a US Government Top Secret Clearance, yet your sign precludes even me from Exercising the most elemental of Human rights, the right to self defence. I hope you will reconsider your policies about firearms, but until you do I will be forced to take my business elsewhere. My family has a good deal of disposable income and fortunately for us we can stay home and watch movies on our own theatre or find another Theatre that does try not restrict our rights and endanger their patrons as you have. Edit: Remove my real name....  Yorktown VA. Last edited on Fri Dec 28th, 2007 01:59 pm by Freeflight |
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Thundar Regular Member
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AMC is not on VCDL's gun unfriendly list. Take a picture & send it to Philip Van Cleave. The response that VCDL creates will have an impact. |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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Thundar wrote: AMC is not on VCDL's gun unfriendly list. Take a picture & send it to Philip Van Cleave. The response that VCDL creates will have an impact. Roger that, We will be going sunday... |
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Went to see the new national Treasure movie.. (Great, imo) First one was better, I thought... It had more puzzles and moved a bit better. It was an enjoyable couple of hours out of the house, though. |
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I try to avoid the AMC 24 in Hampton. If you go at night there seems to be lots of shady characters there. My wife knew someone who was beaten almost to death by a big group of people there several years ago. (The group was being obnoxious and was asked to be quiet during the movie. They left then waited outside the theatre for the movie to get out - then attacked.) If you go on a weekend in the early evening there is always one or two off duty cops there providing security. But when your movie lets out later that night they usually have already gone home. I usually try to go to the Regal theatre at Kiln Creek. The theatre itself is not as nice, but it certainly feels safer. |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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vt357 wrote: I try to avoid the AMC 24 in Hampton. If you go at night there seems to be lots of shady characters there. My wife knew someone who was beaten almost to death by a big group of people there several years ago. (The group was being obnoxious and was asked to be quiet during the movie. They left then waited outside the theatre for the movie to get out - then attacked.) If you go on a weekend in the early evening there is always one or two off duty cops there providing security. But when your movie lets out later that night they usually have already gone home. Does the Kiln Creek Theatre have the Gunbuster signs? Also a while back we went to the Late Show middle of the night to see a horror flick, my family was the only White people in the movie... That of course was not an issue, however the entire audience was loud, obnoxious and unruly. At one point someone came in the movie and said "Fight in the parking lot" and the ENTIRE audience (except the 6 white people and two other non-white families) left the movie all at once!!! That may have been the same night that your wife's acquaintance was attacked. There was this young person behind us talking on his cell phone, every other word was M-F_kka or Beeeotch... sheeeesh. I finally turned around and demanded he take it outside...the admiral punched me in the ribs to shut me up...and hissed in my ear "There's a whole lot of them!!!!" anyway... that aside I will not go unarmed to Hampton AMC Ever! They can put all the signs up they want I'll still carry. I mailed the letter above to AMC... Edit Corrected an exaggeration Last edited on Fri Dec 28th, 2007 04:01 pm by Freeflight |
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Freeflight wroteAlso a while back we went to the Late Show middle of the night to see a horror flick, my family was the only White people in the movie... That of course was not an issue, however the entire audience was loud, obnoxious and unruly. At one point someone came in the movie and said "Fight in the parking lot" and the ENTIRE audience (except the 6 white people) left the movie all at once!!! That may have been the same night that your wife's acquaintance was attacked. There was this young person behind us talking on his cell phone, every other word was M-F_kka or Beeeotch... sheeeesh. I finally turned around and demanded he take it outside...the admiral punched me in the ribs to shut me up...and hissed in my ear "There's a whole lot of them!!!!" anyway... that aside I will not go unarmed to Hampton AMC Ever"the ENTIRE audience"(except the 6 white people) -of course......thats quite a tale...lol Last edited on Fri Dec 28th, 2007 03:43 pm by dkd |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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It happened just that way... no exaggeration this time, we where the among the Few people left in the theatre... there was one or two other families (non white) left in the theatre with their kids too as I recall.. we could watch the movie in peace for a while, then the Riff Raff came back in... and the rowdiness and rudeness began again... Just saying it the way it was... Last edited on Fri Dec 28th, 2007 03:58 pm by Freeflight |
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vt357 Regular Member
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Freeflight wrote: vt357 wrote:I try to avoid the AMC 24 in Hampton. If you go at night there seems to be lots of shady characters there. My wife knew someone who was beaten almost to death by a big group of people there several years ago. (The group was being obnoxious and was asked to be quiet during the movie. They left then waited outside the theatre for the movie to get out - then attacked.) If you go on a weekend in the early evening there is always one or two off duty cops there providing security. But when your movie lets out later that night they usually have already gone home. I don't know if it is posted or not. But if I recall correctly the policy of all Regal theatres, like AMC, is to prohibit carry. But I'm going to carry where ever I go, but I really try to avoid the AMC. I'm not from the Newport News area but my wife's family is, so we are in the area frequently. I try not to give my money to the anti businesses. So I go to the Consolodated Theatres Commonwealth 20 in Chesterfield County. They are completely ok with concealed carry. |
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Freeflight wrote:we could watch the movie in peace for a while, then the Riff Raff came back in... and the rowdiness and rudeness began again... Walk out of the movie. I'm serious. I walked out of Beowulf, but that was because it was awful. Walk out, and ask for a refund from the manager. If I'm paying $9+ dollars PER HEAD, I want to be able to enjoy my movie fully. Hell, I say walk out of a movie and demand a refund because you "didn't feel safe enough to enjoy the movie." .... Might be onto something there, actually. |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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Indeed, if we complain more often about the lack of civility, the coarseness, the inappropriate behavior and language at public events, and INSIST on our money back, we may actually do something to stop the low-lives from getting away with destroying the envoronment we expect when we pay money for a public event. I'm making a New Year's resolution to do this EVERY TIME. I hope you will too! |
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Thundar Regular Member
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29 Dec OC/ OC at Battlefield Sam's Club. Check out clerk : Are you a policeman? Me: No Clerk: Do you have a permit? Me: You don't need one to carry openly in Virginia. Clerk: I didn't know that. Me: Do you need help with that heavy bag of dog food? (44lbs) Clerk: Yes, thank you. |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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RT 17, Blackies, English Motors, Doodies used autoparts, Wal Mart (Yorktown) and finally, York river yacht haven (Workin on the boat... springs coming) The guy at doodies acted funny (Weird) I asked for the part I am looking for and he said "No ain't got none of them..." It was somehow out of character not wanting to even check for the part, it was like he wanted to get rid of me... The guys at English motors where all friendly and very helpful even though they didn't have my part he tried to find it for me. (Thats what doodies should have done) No issues at blackies other than he didn't have my part either. Wal Mart had one old lady in line that gave the ole but no issues beyond that. |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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Dutch Uncle wrote: Indeed, if we complain more often about the lack of civility, the coarseness, the inappropriate behavior and language at public events, and INSIST on our money back, we may actually do something to stop the low-lives from getting away with destroying the envoronment we expect when we pay money for a public event. I'm making a New Year's resolution to do this EVERY TIME. I hope you will too! I intend to from now on.. that was the last time I don't complain and whine profusely. |
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Had a good week, OC'd at the following, nary a problem as usual. Harris Teeter @ Oceanfront Ocean Mystique Tattoo on VB Blvd Rite-Aid on 17th St Zero's on Pacific 7-11 on Pacific TJ Max on Nimmo |
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My only bad experience in Norfolk was on Black Friday in Walmart on Tidewater Drive. Was detained, disarmed and escorted out of the store and told by LEO that Walmart did not allow OC. Have since gotten my CC and have not OC'd in that store again. It's ashame. I didn't discover this site until after the incident. Had I been on this site before that I would have known what to say and do from all the wonderful stories here. Next encouter with LEO and I'll be better prepared. |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Catp00p wrote: My only bad experience in Norfolk was on Black Friday in Walmart on Tidewater Drive. Was detained, disarmed and escorted out of the store and told by LEO that Walmart did not allow OC. Have since gotten my CC and have not OC'd in that store again. Did you find out if it was a store manager that authorized the LEO to remove you or was he doing it from someone that called in on a cell phone? |
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Thundar Regular Member
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dupe, sorry Last edited on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 05:22 am by Thundar |
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OC today in: Zoots in Great Bridge Bank of America (Great Bridge) Animal Adventure (Pet store on South Battlefield) Bloom (Used to be Food Lion on South Battlefield |
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Thundar Regular Member
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Catp00p wrote: My only bad experience in Norfolk was on Black Friday in Walmart on Tidewater Drive. Was detained, disarmed and escorted out of the store and told by LEO that Walmart did not allow OC. Have since gotten my CC and have not OC'd in that store again. More details please. Who detained you? The police or the Walmart Security Guards? Why were you disarmed? I have often OCed in Walmart (Battlefield ) without a problem. |
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Neither. It was Black Friday. LEO was in the store when I arrived. There were 3 LEO at the front door, which I walked passed. They looked at my holster, looked at me, I nodded and they nodded back. No problems. There were 2 LEO in the back of the store. They are the ones I had the trouble with. As soon as they saw me they came up and asked for my ID. I was unaware that I didnt have to show it, so I gave it to them. While one asked me questions the other grabbed my arm, put it behind my back and took my gun from me. I did know that they were not allowed to disarm me, and I informed them that I was aware of this. I was polite and respectful the entire time. The response was, "Sir, you are getting aggressive. This is for our protection." At that point I figured I just better keep my mouth shut and play along. After they found out I wasn't a felon and that the gun was mine, they walked me to the front where the 3 other LEO were. They asked what I did and the 2 said "Nothing, we are just checking him out." I could actually see the look of shock on the other LEO's face. So I guess to cover for their buddies they told me, "Any other day and we wouldn't have said anything, but this is Black Friday." And, one of the funnier points, as they were walking me out to my car (the 2 original LEO's that I had trouble with) they said they noticed I had hollow-points in my gun, and they are illegal for anyone to carry except for LEO, but they weren't going to press the issue now. I figured they were just trying to make it seem more like I was doing something wrong so I didn't write any nasty letters that day. While scouring the internet to see what information I could find on open carry, I found this site. So, all's well that end's well. I am now glad I'm aware of the laws. |
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Catp00p wrote: Neither. It was Black Friday. LEO was in the store when I arrived. There were 3 LEO at the front door, which I walked passed. They looked at my holster, looked at me, I nodded and they nodded back. No problems. There were 2 LEO in the back of the store. They are the ones I had the trouble with. As soon as they saw me they came up and asked for my ID. I was unaware that I didnt have to show it, so I gave it to them. While one asked me questions the other grabbed my arm, put it behind my back and took my gun from me. I did know that they were not allowed to disarm me, and I informed them that I was aware of this. I was polite and respectful the entire time. The response was, "Sir, you are getting aggressive. This is for our protection." At that point I figured I just better keep my mouth shut and play along. The Tidewater Drive Walmart is in Norfolk. This is the Norfolk, VA. Police Department AGAIN!!! |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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catpOOp, Since you are new to this site, I assume you haven't read all the posts on the various recent incidents with the Norfolk Police. I have referred to the Norfolk Police as slow learners, and this is probably more gracious than the truth....that many of them are ignorant and supremely arrogant. It may take some months, but there are some lawsuits in progress as we speak that should bring their department and the city council up short. From what I heard from other Norfolk citizens at the council meeting last summer, the lawsuits are long overdue, and will bring some much needed bad publicity to a department that is out of control. I've OC'd numerous times in Norfolk, and never been hassled (so far). I doubt I'd have given the cops a hard time because of the horror stories I've heard first hand about them, but the "hollowpoints are illegal" bull@#$% really takes the cake, and I'm sure I would have pointed out to him that I know better, and so should he. His comment just added insult to injury. Perhaps he was from the PRNJ.....  While I hope I'll never be victimized by those fools, I still intend to carry any way I see fit any time I go to Norfolk, and I hope you will too. Last edited on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 05:09 pm by Dutch Uncle |
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The Norfolk officers are taught better than this. I'm VERY sure that the trainers would NOT teach officers that hollowpoints are illegal except for LE in the state of VA. Sounds more like a case of individual officers making stuff up as they go along. I will pass this on to Norfolk's training staff to make sure this type of nonsense doesn't happen again. Did you happen to get the officers names who were responsible? Let me know and I'll pass the info on to their supervisors. |
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Catp00p wrote: My only bad experience in Norfolk was on Black Friday in Walmart on Tidewater Drive. Was detained, disarmed and escorted out of the store and told by LEO that Walmart did not allow OC. Have since gotten my CC and have not OC'd in that store again. i had the store manager from nimmo pkwy tell me that i could oc in the store. |
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LRS76251 wrote: Sounds more like a case of individual officers making stuff up as they go along. What else is new? |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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Saturday, DMV Newport News. East Coast Gas station Rt 17 West Marine Smitties Winfree's (Picked up a new pancake holster (nylon to knock around it)) The winfree's are great folks. Lots of used gunz! Took my little 7 year old Grandson with me, as we where getting ready to leave the house I strapped my Kimber Raptor on (I pick the gun I want to carry like the wife picks out her shoes ) little buddy watched for a moment and disappeared, he came back a minute later with his silver Colt cap gun I told him stuff it in his belt and lets go!All day long I had my little buddy in tow with a Col Colt style revolver stuck in his belt and me with my Raptor... we got some looks by the soccer mommies we encountered... |
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vt357 Regular Member
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Freeflight wrote: Took my little 7 year old Grandson with me, as we where getting ready to leave the house I strapped my Kimber Raptor on (I pick the gun I want to carry like the wife picks out her shoes = Greatest OC story I have heard yet |
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Yesterday 5 January: Wendy's Aberdeen Rd Hampton 7-11 Corner of Powhatan in Hampton. Police and Fire Dept. were on the scene tending to a confused homeless man (I think he was a Vietnam Vet.) I asked if a citizen could help with a ride to a shelter or something like that. Police said no, ambulance was on the way to transport him to a medical facility. Very sad to see. I wish we had better care for vets that need significant mental health treatment. The gun was a non issue. Hampton PD obviously saw it, but did not even ask, even though it was late on a Saturday night. |
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Bass Pro Shops, awful dark though, greeter told us the power was out but the registers still worked so they could still take our money Uptown Buffet on Military Hwy by Janiff shopping center. Great food, Highly recommended S&K Menswear Lynnhaven Store. Nary a word from either employee, even when the seamstress helped me with my jacket to get it fitted. Gotta look good for Lobby day |
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Great Bridge: Walgreens, Taylor's Do It Center, Bank of America, Farm Fresh, Dollar Tree, Burger King, Zoots Cleaners, Animal Adventure - a nice family owned pet store, by the way. Newport News: Wendy's on Aberdeen Road. again no problems and no issues. |
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Great Bridge Radio Shack. No problems at Great Bridge Shell, Dollar Tree Walgreens or Rite Aid. |
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Light weekend, no worries as usual. Pelon's on 30th & Pacific (owners are Californians no less) Harris Teeter on 30th & Arctic 7-11 on 24th & Pacific |
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Thundar Regular Member
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This Weekend no problems. Harbor Freight Tools on Military Highway Barnes and Noble on Greenbriar. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OC Today without incident. Chesapeake: DMV at Greenbrier, Greenbrier Mall -Inside: Sears, Foot Action, Foot Locker, Food Court, McDonalds, Newport News: Aberdeen Road Citgo Last edited on Thu Feb 7th, 2008 03:12 am by Thundar |
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Norfolk: OCed in Havana Restaurant and along Granby St to/from my car. No reaction from anyone. Note - I normally CC, so "OC" for me is an untucked IWB at 4 o'clock, so it's not very noticable, and the people who do notice are likely to be behind me. |
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OC This week: Locks Point Park While Voting in the Primary (Touched the screen for Dr. Ron Paul) Bloom, Centerville Turnpike Crazy Wing Cantina, Great Bridge Walgreens, Great Bridge Rite Aid, Great Bridge |
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Freeflight wrote: OC to the Barber Shop.. Could it have been Shiatzu?? Not sure if that is correct spelling or not but I think so. |
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Usual weekend lunch at Red Robin near Red Mill Commons. Non-event, happy staff as always. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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Carried in front of Chesapeake Detention Center, though it was covered part of the time due to heavy rain. Also carried at Battlefield Farm Fresh and Dollar Tree. |
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This forum and topic is exactly why I'm here and while this is my first post and I couldn't find another topic to suit my intro, here it goes. 29/M, Hitched+3 pups 7g,4b,20m/b. Active Navy 10+. Eat sleep breath burnt gun powder, hunting, and fishing. New to the OC & CC thing here in Norfolk. Hence why I'm here to learn all I can. Wife is SCARED someone will pitch a fit about it. Bless her hart but she's gun shy(didn't listen to-hold it snug to your shoulder, don't put your eye so close, grip it tight). Wanna make sure I got them ducks in a row if I'm ever stopped. Still trying to figure out all the places ya can and can't OC as my CC ain't back yet. Again I'm here to learn. Teach me!!! |
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Bullbuster wrote: New to the OC & CC thing here in Norfolk....Again I'm here to learn. Teach me!!! First - welcome and keep reading - here and at the VCDL link below Second - join the Virginia Citizens Defense League http://www.vcdl.org Third - signup for the free VA-Alerts on the above website - you'll learn a LOT Fourth - follow the Tidewater (insert appropriate month here) Open Carry Dining Out threads on this website on the Virginia page - and join us - you don't have to carry but if you do you, and we're eating at a restaurant that serves alcohol, you have to open carry. This is also a great way to experience open carry with many others that have a lot of experience with open carry. |
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vt357 Regular Member
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Bullbuster wrote: Again I'm here to learn. Teach me!!! Print this out and have it with you. Great little reference guide. http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/attachment.php?id=516 |
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Thanks for the info. I'm a new member of VCDL and do have the pamphlet as well. But I would like to attend one of the dinner functions. Being able to OC and CC was one of the reasions I moved to VA. Couldn't take the Anti BS and laws in CA any longer. I'll look and see when the next dinner is happening. |
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Bullbuster, if you are stationed at Naval Station Norfolk the Camp Allen Weapons Range is a great deal. Ammo is cheap, range time is cheap and the facilities are first rate. |
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mrguppy wrote: Thundar wrote:You Can Open Carry in Bass Pro Shop, I was asked to put a trigger lock on my weapon and i complied. After talking with the gun guys there, and further assured me that it was alright, i went up front and told the guy to take the gun lock off, he asked the store manager and the lock was removed and weapon reholstered. But while i was there a good point was brought up. If you remove your firearm from it's holster, even to comply with a stores "so called rules" even though it's not posted, you are technically brandishing your firearm, and that is illegal. I will refuse from now on, and i advise the same from everyone else. If it's not posted do not remove your weapon.mrguppy wrote:Thundar wrote:mrguppy wrote:last time i was up at bass pro shop they told me i had to have a trigger lock on it next time if i want to oc |
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Thundar wrote: Bullbuster, if you are stationed at Naval Station Norfolk the Camp Allen Weapons Range is a great deal. Ammo is cheap, range time is cheap and the facilities are first rate. I go there often as I live in base housing at the Joint Forces Staff College. Plus I take my 7 year old and 4 year old with me to shoot the 10/22. Ok I been looking around the VA boards and can't find the topic that list the dinner GT's. Where is it located? Last edited on Wed Feb 27th, 2008 07:28 am by Bullbuster |
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S&W 910S wrote: You Can Open Carry in Bass Pro Shop, I was asked to put a trigger lock on my weapon and i complied. After talking with the gun guys there, and further assured me that it was alright, i went up front and told the guy to take the gun lock off, he asked the store manager and the lock was removed and weapon reholstered. But while i was there a good point was brought up. If you remove your firearm from it's holster, even to comply with a stores "so called rules" even though it's not posted, you are technically brandishing your firearm, and that is illegal. I will refuse from now on, and i advise the same from everyone else. If it's not posted do not remove your weapon. Correct me ANYONE if I am mistaken, but Virginia Code § 18.2-282 states... "§ 18.2-282. Pointing, holding, or brandishing firearm, air or gas operated weapon or object similar in appearance; penalty. A. It shall be unlawful for any person to point, hold or brandish any firearm or any air or gas operated weapon or any object similar in appearance, whether capable of being fired or not, in such manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another or hold a firearm or any air or gas operated weapon in a public place in such a manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another of being shot or injured." Merriam-Webster defines brandish as... (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/brandish ) 1 : to shake or wave (as a weapon) menacingly 2 : to exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner If you are taking it out of the holster to put a lock on/off the firearm making it "Bass Pro Shop (BPS) Open Carry", that is not brandishing, for you are not shaking/waving firearm or doing so in an agressive manner. |
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You have to take into account that the law states that if someone is in fear of being shot or injured. You also have to consider that just because that is the definition of brandishing, doesn't mean that everyone know that. You might still get detained for it. Don't take any chances. Just because you and the guy putting the gun lock on knows whats going on, doesn't mean that the soccer mom, or anybody else that is right there does, and they might feel threatened by the fact that your weapon is out of a safe position, which is in your holster. It is the gun carriers responsibility to know the rules and regulations. That is why i said that it's not against Bass Pro Shops rules, there rules state that any firearm coming into the store that is not in a locked case, must have a gun lock, your holster serves that purpose. Unless they change there rules and post it on the front of the store, you have every right to openly carry it into the store, but do not take it out of it's holster, unless you intend on using it. Last edited on Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 05:33 pm by S&W 910S |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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The name of the thread for the get togethers is "Tidewater March OC dinner". Tell Bubba Ron that Dutch Uncle sent ya. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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Thanks for the topic name. In relation to Brandish couldn't standing at the gun counter looking at a gun and pointing it so you can get the feel and look down the barrel. Be construed as brandishing even if it wasn't holstered. Your pointing it a manor that one could assume to be fearful of? Of is the fact that your at a gun counter considered acceptable? My 2 cents on the BPS gun lock thing. If it was me and I actually chose to put a lock on it. I would have asked to go behind closed doors in an office to do so. That way no one could throw in the red flag for a possible brandishing incident. |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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I wonder how BPS would like getting listed on VCDL's gun Unfriendly list....I think they belong on that list.... |
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Eeyore Regular Member
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OC'ed at Carrabba's in Newport News. No comments or problems. |
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Eeyore Regular Member
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Peking International Buffet in Hampton. Lots of families with kids. Despite several trips to the buffet, and a long pause to watch the koi, no reaction from anyone. |
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vt357 Regular Member
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I can proudly say that 3 officers in Newport News know the law on open carry. I went to Moe's Southwest Grill on Jefferson near the airport on Saturday to pick up a couple burritos to go. There were 3 officers having lunch. I got my order and had to walk by them on my right (strong arm side) to leave. They saw and continued eating. Three cheers for NN police! |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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Applebee's on Lynnhaven across from the Mall is good to go! |
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S&W 910S Regular Member
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OC'ed at the walmart in chesapeake, and the target and chesapeake square mall, no issues. Ya know i thought it was funny, cause i read the sign and the doors, and nothing said no firearms so i preceded, then i saw 2 security guards, and neither one of them was carrying. I thought to myself, at least i can protect me and my family, cause obvoiusly these guys can't. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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Is it just me or is anybody else seeing other OCers around Hampton Roads? Maybe it is our long term effort, or maybe it is the Virginia Pilot Series, but I've seen three OCers in the last two days!!! |
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S&W 910S Regular Member
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I haven't seen anybody else, i am not in town that often, but when i do i am usually in town for like the whole day. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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I'm new, so I thought I'd do my intro in here since the VA section seems cluttered. (And I saw bull did it ) Carlo/23/Great Bridge of Chesapeake I go out to my friends land for some 100yard+ shooting and visit Camp Allen and A&P for the rainy days. Other than that, I'm studying @ ODU and work on Norfolk Base. Hi. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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I have run into a couple while out pier fishing with my kids. But I have had a couple stop and say they usually do and ask if I was a VCDL member like them. My wife still is timmid about the whole OC thing. Afraid of what folks will say or do. She'll just have to get used to it I guess. C45P312 check your PM's. |
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WhatTimeIsIt? Regular Member
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Open carried at Primo Pizza in Va Beach, Harris Teeter and UPS off Hanbury in Chesapeake. |
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GMZ Regular Member
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Advanced Auto and Wally's on Nimmo, no problems. |
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09 Mar 08 Both me and my friend open carried at El Azteca Restaurant in Virginia Beach, no problems. |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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09 Mar 08 Both me and my friend open carried at El Azteca Restaurant in Virginia Beach, no problems. |
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mariaandefrem Regular Member 
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i have a .45 taurus mill pro new and want to know can i OC it loaded without it being illegal anyone know |
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mariaandefrem Regular Member
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I have a new taurus .45cal mill pro and want to know can i OC in public with it being loaded without it being illegal does anyone know about this |
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kimbercarrier Activist Member 
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http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/attachment.php?id=516 Take a look at this and it will tell you where you can carry. Yes you can. I'm assuming your in the tidewater area and if so we're having an OC dinner in york county thursday the 27th at 7pm. If you have'nt oc'd before it's a good way to break the ice and be comfortable as we all oc. Check out the thread for the tidewater march oc dinner. Last edited on Wed Mar 12th, 2008 02:26 am by kimbercarrier |
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LexRex Regular Member
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New to the board. OCed several times over the past few days at 7-11 and Farm Fresh (for coffee) at the intersection of Kempsville and Volvo. And, once at Zoots Cleaners on Indian River. At Farm Fresh, I got a nice little double-take from the manager (only once). No issues. |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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16 March 08 Open carried at Longhorn Steakhouse in Williamsburg. No problems. |
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LexRex Regular Member
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OCed: On Tuesday at Farm Fresh (Kemps/Volvo); grocery shopping with the Boss; all over the store. Other than the undisciplined, unprofessional, and unsupervised high school kids working at the register, no problems. Today for lunch at Kelly's Tavern (near Kemps/Centerville); good service, bland food; no problems. |
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HKshooter Regular Member
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Family dinner night out: Sandbridge Island Restaurant & Raw Bar 205 Sandbridge Road Virginia Beach, VA 23456 OK meal, no problems. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OC last week at South Battlefield Home Depot, Ceterville Farm Fresh, Greenbrier Petsmart and Greenbrier Barnes and Noble. |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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I Finally have been OC with the Admiral when we go ashore. She hasn't made any protests OC This weekend, wal mart Jefferson ave and 64, Food lion, Blockbuster, York Yacht Haven, FarmFresh (See below for more about FarmFresh), 7/11 Warwick close to colony, Ruby Tuesday Victory Blvd Yorktown. Farm Fresh, one of the helpers around the check out saw my kimber RCP on my side as I bent over to retrieve something from under the "Buggy" and said "WOW!! Thats a beautiful thing you have there... What is it? I said well, its a Kimber 45.. She says WOW!!! I really want to get one maybe a .38 or something.... had a nice little conversation with her about OC and the laws and "Yes you can too!!! " The admiral never said a negative word about it. So that is her first encounter with anyone with me OC. I'm glad the first one was Positive for her... |
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Freeflight wrote: I Finally have been OC with the Admiral when we go ashore. She hasn't made any protests Did you eat at Rivers Inn or were you just visiting the Marina? |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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bayboy42 wrote: Freeflight wrote:I Finally have been OC with the Admiral when we go ashore. She hasn't made any protests No, I haven't OC at the River's inn (Yet) The York Yacht Haven I referred to is in Poquoson.. its where I keep my Yacht... |
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OBXMIKE Regular Member
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OC'd at the 'Kyoto' Japanese steakhouse in Chesapeake (x Greenbriar mall) Saturday evening. Place was jammed full. No probs, and only a couple of brief stares. I was there with my whole crew + mom and dad visiting for Easter wkend. Usually I like the "tactically superior" spot at the table, but they had me at the end of the table with my strong side to the entryway. Couldn't miss me if you tried! (lol)Thought for sure someone would start screaming the moment they walked thru the door, but thankfully no drama. |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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OC'd yesterday at Cheers in Newport News. No issues. |
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davychanchan Regular Member
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i have only seen one person OC (except in/around gun shops) in the four years i have been stationed here. kind of one of the deterrents for me |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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davychanchan wrote: i have only seen one person OC (except in/around gun shops) in the four years i have been stationed here. kind of one of the deterrents for me Why should that be a deterrent? It means there aren't nearly enough people OCing, and your willingness to do so might help start a trend! |
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kimbercarrier Activist Member
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Went to Plaza Azteca by the AMC 24 in Hampton and then JC Penny's in Hampton , no problems. |
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AbNo Regular Member
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davychanchan wrote:i have only seen one person OC (except in/around gun shops) in the four years i have been stationed here. kind of one of the deterrents for me Where's "here" for you, though? |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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davychanchan wrote: i have only seen one person OC (except in/around gun shops) in the four years i have been stationed here. kind of one of the deterrents for me It can feel pretty awkward OCing at first but don't worry about it, you'll get comfortable once you get more sure of yourself. Just think, you may not see many people carrying but if you carry a lot of people will see you :^)! |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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Had another great meal at Longhorn Steakhouse in Williamsburg. No problems. |
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davychanchan Regular Member
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davychanchan Regular Member
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that is a pretty good point. so far i've only oc'd at 7-11 and farm fress on military highway, nothing but a couple of interested looks |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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Ok well I got back in the OC saddle again. I OC to Food Lion and the Shell station accross the street on Tidewater and Cromwell yesterday. Only the attendant at the shell gave me any starnge looks. Made a couple jokes and chit chat and all seemed well. Last edited on Fri Apr 4th, 2008 06:03 am by Bullbuster |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OC today, 2 April, at Great Bridge Walgreens, Citgo station, BP Station, an Frank's II Pizza. No problems or issues. |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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OC'd at El Burrito Loco in Suffolk...best burrito I've had in years! |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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OC'd with wife and kids at Sam's Club in Va Beach on Va Beach Blvd and Dollar General on Rosemont/ S Plaza with no issues |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OC at Farm Fresh and Navy Federal Credit Union at Centerville Marketplace (corner of Centerville Turnpike and Mount Pleasant Road in Chesapeake). No issues. |
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LexRex Regular Member
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Went to pick up lunch for me and the Boss at Moe's SW Grill (in the shopping center at the intersection of Providence and Kempsville). The young ladies behind the counter were very professional. It almost seemed that they went out of their way to act nonchalant about my little buddy. So, two thumbs-up: one for doing their job, and one for their reaction (or lack thereof). The Boss says we have to go grocery shopping tomorrow, so I'm thinking we may head over to the new Harris-Teeter on Ferrel Pkwy. If it's anything like the H-T's in NoVA, there'll be plenty of yuppies in there. More to follow. |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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Well friends... I have a very disturbing and negative situation to report... This happened at the Red Lobster in Hampton. The admiral And I went out to eat with some life long friends. My Friend has a really outgoing and almost obnoxious.. (You all know the type I love him Like a Brother from another mother... but...)anyway We got to the Dead Lobster and I took off my Coat... and there's my Gun... Well I didn't tell My friends before hand (I never thought about it...) and had to splane to them both the usual stuff... why I carry etc.. they both excepted and we went on to order and have a good time. They all ordered drinks (not me) and after 2 rounds... I kid you not my dear friend told the waiter... "You had better serve us well... my friend has a Gun.. (Pointing at me) and he Will SHOOT you if you mess up our order...." AAACCKKKK!!! I kicked him under the table (Hard)...the poor kid looked at me... and I said as friendly as I could muster... no way will I Shoot you... My friend (and kicked him again...under the table) has a Bucket mouth and has drank to much... Sheeeeeesh..... anyway... the fun's not over yet... We got through our meal and ordered the desert... and dang if my friend didn't do it again... "Now remember .... Bang Bang.... when you bring the tab..." I hope his shins hurt for a long time.... FreeFlight. |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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Man, I'd loose that "friend".... |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Freeflight wrote: Well friends... I have a very disturbing and negative situation to report... Sounds like your friend must have been very uncomfortable with your carrying. I have an employee, a friend who has many guns, who is always riding me about carrying in the shop saying 'why do you need a gun in the shop' and such. He thinks I am ridiculous and it embarasses him I guess. Your friend may have thought it ridiculous to carry and felt embarrassed by you so he "retaliated" by trying to embarrass you. Maybe, just a thought. |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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Neplusultra wrote: Freeflight wrote:Well friends... I have a very disturbing and negative situation to report... That could be.. he seemed okay that I was armed... but I will ask him...eventually. Right now I will just blame the whole thing on Gov. Timmy. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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Sorry to hear that. Sorda sounds like my 4 year old when we go out. He has a habbit of letting folks know daddy has a gun. Unlike my son I'm sure your friend will understand the stiff tone of the voice when ya talk to him about it. |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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OC'd at Smokey Bones in Newport News. It was the best BBQ I've had in a very long time. I think it was better than Pierce's! |
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ECB Regular Member 
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Bonds Fine Cigar Shoppe Newport News. They're pro 2A and pro-military. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd yesterday at Leslie's pool in Greenbrier and at Auto Zone in Great Bridge. No problems in either place. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd today at Farm Fresh and Navy Federal Credit Union at the corner of Centerville Turnpike and Mount Pleasant Road as well as Animal Adventure in Great Bridge with no issues. |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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OC'd at Mongolian BBQ in Williamsburg. No problems! |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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OCed with a bunch of folks at the Shad Planking today - yea, I know that Wakefield is stretching the bounds of Hampton Roads - but we had a really great and productive day!! Hope to see some of you OCing at the Virginia Beach Gun Show this weekend.... Bubba Ron |
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Chkultr Regular Member 
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I have started to OC on Saturdays around town. Oc'd last and this weekend at Costco with no problems. A Few stares but that was it! I also went to Care A Lot pet supply, Lowes and Home Depot! No problems there either! Josh |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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OC'd at Silver Diner in Newport News. No problems. |
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I OC most of the places I go around Norfolk/VA Beach. gas stations, stores. Only had one place give me a problem. Theres a tactical dog trainer (forgot the name) Dropped in with my .45 DE on my side. He Said: WHOA, are you a cop? Me: No Him: you have a permit? Me: Nope (didn't at the time) Him: there are police dogs here, you need to put that away. you walk around town like that and no ones ever stoped you?? your very lucky! Me: yes I do, Have a good day. Definitely didn't want to start business with that establishment. |
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htownlhd3 wrote: He Said: WHOA, are you a cop?  What? The police dogs are trained to attack anyone with a gun who isnt' wearing a blue shirt or black shirt without the words "Police" or "Sherrif" or "DEA" or "FBI" or "BATFE" on them? You should have had your dog trained there. Never seen a trainer before who could teach a dog to read. |
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WhatTimeIsIt? Regular Member
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Recently OC'd at: McDonalds and Wal-Mart at 17 and Victory in York County, Bass Pro Shops in Hampton, New Chic-fil-a in Hickory, Blooms in Great Bridge. No problems encountered. |
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vbnative73 Regular Member 
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ccloud43 wrote: Thundar wrote: No sign at new NFCU on Salem Rd. Of course, there are no tellers either. For those who haven't been in there, try it out. A bank with no 'visible' tellers. Kinda freaked me out at first. Maybe that's why that location doesn't have a sign posted. |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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vtme_grad98 wrote: For those that carry at church, just be careful of one thing: many churches are also religious schools. 18.2-308.1 specifically states that it applies to all public, private, and religious K-12 schools. If your church also runs a K-12 school in the same building during the week, you are committing a class 6 felony if you enter the structure. The way I read this is that since, on election day, the school or church is no being "exclusively used for school-sponsored functions or extracurricular activities", then you can carry. Am I correct? |
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kimbercarrier Activist Member
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s(i) any public, private or religious elementary, middle or high school, including buildings and grounds; The way this reads, no. You're focusing just on the second part. The only exception to this is if you have a ccw, then you can drive onto said property to drop off or pickup your child as long as you stay in the car and your gun stays concealed. I'm not yellimg just could'nt get out of the bold type sorry.  I r not that computer literateLast edited on Sun Apr 27th, 2008 12:30 am by kimbercarrier |
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vbnative73 wrote:
No. (ii) above refers to non-school property open to the public and used exclusively for a school-sponsored function... |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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OC'd yesterday at BJ's on Va Beach Blvd. No problems. |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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mrguppy wrote:
Managers and corporate office LOVE to hear stories about losing a customer. The following email addresses might interest you: hilltop@kellystavern.com (manager) info@kellystavern.com (corporate) |
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Thundar Regular Member
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vbnative73 wrote: mrguppy wrote: Message sent |
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Thundar Regular Member
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vbnative73 wrote: ccloud43 wrote:The new NFCU at the corner of Mt.Pleasant and Centerville in Chesapeake is full service, with tellers across a counter and no gunbuster signs.Thundar wrote: |
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FretlessMayhem Regular Member
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I was opening carrying my Springfield EMP in an IWB holster in Harris Teeter in Greenbrier last weekend. While trying to decide what kind of meat to pick up for a friend's BBQ, I was pulled aside by the manager and told I was freaking out customers. He was very polite and respectful to me, and told me he was a gun owner also. He asked if I would mind putting my gun in my car. I replied that I would not do so. I then told him I would compromise and I covered my gun up with my shirt. This satisfied him and he went away. I'm glad covering it up was enough to keep him happy. Otherwise I would have left and never returned. Harris Teeter has the best meat selection by far, so I'm glad it was semi-resolved. Also, I believe it was Thundar who stated he OC'd at Greenbrier Mall. If you read the rules and regulations posted on all the entrances, it states that weapons are not allowed, not even for off duty cops. It's rule 20 or 21. |
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Nelson_Muntz Activist Member 
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Hey friends. I visit your neighborhood every quarter or so. This friday, the 25th I was there last. I walked into a very skittish neighborhood. Just the evening before this happened right near Selma and Patty's place: http://hamptonroads.com/2008/04/no-arrest-slaying-navy-officer-norfolk-funeral-tuesday Both Selma and Patty are severly liberal and anti gun. They have complained to me about my OC'ing while with them in the past, especially in their neck of the woods. This weekend however was a different story. They explained to me what had happened there just a few hours earlier, and how much safer they felt now that I had arrived. Neighbors and press stopped by on and off all weekend to talk about it. I escorted them about town and I think they felt the value of being able to defend oneself in this manner. We discussed OC, CC, VA law, information I've read here about experiences with your local law enforcement, and then about Lisa. Lisa was also ultra liberal and anti gun. She has progressed all the way to carrying concealed and being a range hound. Her enthusiasm grew to the point where Lisa asked me how to become a CC instructor. Selma and Patty listened carefully, and while it is still early in their conversion, the wheels are turning. If only out of every tragedy some good will come. Lt. Cox, from one professional sailor to another, fair winds and following seas. |
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Nelson_Muntz wrote: Hey friends. I visit your neighborhood every quarter or so. This friday, the 25th I was there last. I walked into a very skittish neighborhood. Just the evening before this happened right near Selma and Patty's place: Q: What is the definition of a "conservative"? A: A liberal who's been mugged. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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FretlessMayhem wrote: I was opening carrying my Springfield EMP in an IWB holster in Harris Teeter in Greenbrier last weekend. While trying to decide what kind of meat to pick up for a friend's BBQ, I was pulled aside by the manager and told I was freaking out customers. He was very polite and respectful to me, and told me he was a gun owner also. I always park go in and out of the Greenbrier Mall at the Sears Craftsman entrance. That way no matter what candle I have to smell, or what dumb gadget I have to buy, at least I can walk through the tools and I never forget where I parked my truck. It is not, or was not as of two weeks ago, posted at that entrance. This does bring up an interesting question. Is violating rule 20 or 21, which was unknown to me, trespassing? |
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SaltH2OHokie Regular Member
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Thundar wrote: FretlessMayhem wrote:I was opening carrying my Springfield EMP in an IWB holster in Harris Teeter in Greenbrier last weekend. While trying to decide what kind of meat to pick up for a friend's BBQ, I was pulled aside by the manager and told I was freaking out customers. He was very polite and respectful to me, and told me he was a gun owner also. I was wondering that today as I entered Valley View Mall in Roanoke (unarmed because I know the policy and was wearing OWB and short shirt...concealing wasn't planned since a mall visit wasn't planned). I entered through Macy's with the little lady and we both stopped and commented that there were no signs, no rules, no nothing. I knew the rule, so I wasn't carrying, but say my buddy comes up from NC and pokes around the mall while I'm in class or working...how's he to know if he goes in through Macy's that he's unwelcome in the mall with his firearm? |
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Thundar wrote: FretlessMayhem wrote:I was opening carrying my Springfield EMP in an IWB holster in Harris Teeter in Greenbrier last weekend. While trying to decide what kind of meat to pick up for a friend's BBQ, I was pulled aside by the manager and told I was freaking out customers. He was very polite and respectful to me, and told me he was a gun owner also. Hiya. I found this link. It's number 20 at the bottom: http://www.greenbriermall.com/shop/greenbrier.nsf/security I live in Greenbrier, so any other mall is pretty far for me. I never OC there. I always CC, and I always enter through Sears or another store that isn't posted. Interestingly enough, the lower level entrance to Macys is posted on the side of the wall right when you walk in. Doesn't the law mention something about being "conspicuously" posted? The rules are never in plain view, and the text is really, really small. |
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Friday night (4/25/08) we went out to Buffalo Wild Wings in Va Beach. The one close to the court house. We were there from 630-9pm. When we entered the rest. I held the door open for a couple and the guy smiled as he said nice piece. There was a 15 min wait so I grabbed a menu to take home so we both ended up walking back out of the rest. at the same time and all I got was a big smile and a chuckle from him. Oc'd with no problems. Once again I was at Costco and Lowes on military hwy with no problems! |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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OC'd @ Home Depot off of Battlefield and Volvo in Chesapeake |
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I'm about to be back home for the summer in a few days (Suffolk) and I got assigned to a project in Virginia Beach (the Renaissance Academy). Point of that story: Anyone want to summarize any places in the Hampton Roads area that AREN'T ok with me open carrying? |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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OC'd @ Wild Wing off of Battlefield near Sam's Club. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OC'd at Far Fresh at the cornerof Mt Pleasant and Centerville Turnpike yesterday. No issues. |
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GMZ Regular Member
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Been awhile, Wallys on Nimmo JR Market on Med Harris Teeter on 30th St I did get ALOT of inquisitive looks from all the cougars in Teeter |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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Just got back from OCing @ TGIF on Volvo in Chesapeake. |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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Took my wife and youngest daughter to dinner at Kelsey's Deli in Yorktown. No problems at all, as usual. |
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WhatTimeIsIt? Regular Member
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Open carried today at the following: Wal Mart, Lowes, and Home Depot on Battlefield; 7-11 and Office Max in Greenbrier; Primo Pizza in Va Beach. No issues anywhere. Last edited on Mon May 5th, 2008 07:24 pm by WhatTimeIsIt? |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd today without incident at: Farm Fresh at the corner of Centerville and Mt Pleasant in Chesapeake Charyway FCU inside Farm Fresh Advance Auto in Great Bridge Bloom in South Great Bridge |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd at Chili's on Nimmo Parkway, no incidents or people calling cops while running frantically for the hills! |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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OC'd 5 May to Bobs gun shop in Norfolk for range time and gunsmith work then to Mi Hogar Mexican Restaurant on Granby street with not so much as a second glance. The place was full. OC'd tonight to Genghis Khan Mongolian BBQ. Buffet style so I was back and forth with no problems. Even ran into 2 LEO's in the parking lot on the way out. Had a nice chat and had no mention of my OC'ing. |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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OC'd on Saturday to the Hickory Grill on Centerville Tpk for breakfast, then Home Depot off Battlefield Blvd, then Wal-Mart on Sam's Way all in Chesapeake. While walking into Wally World, one of Chesapeake's finest pulled into a parking spot as we walked by - not even a peep. Then we went to the Sporting Goods section and bought 2 - 100 packs of .40 S&W.....ammo prices have sure gone up since the last time we bought any!!! |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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Bubba Ron wrote: .....ammo prices have sure gone up since the last time we bought any!!! Thank goodness for the gun shows. Picked up nearly 800 rounds at the last one. Saved me a big chunk of change. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd in Lowes at Greenbrier in Chesapeake yesterday. Ocd at the Food Lion on Wesleyan Drive in Virginia Beach this morning. No problems or issues at either place. |
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Linkenrw2005 Regular Member
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Howdy, I haven't lived in Virgina for about 8 months but I did live there for 7 years while in the military (now I live in the most gun repressive state Maryland *sigh*). I got my CC in 2004 after a buddy was robbed at gun point at the NFCU 2 times in 3 months by the Norfolk Navy Base. I started to OC when I asked a cop at the local Hardees in Hampton where I lived, he showed me the what the law said in his book and I oc'd ever day after that. Only problem I ever had was in Hampton at the Food Lion off of Nickerson Plaza when I went in wearing my Springfield 1911 on my right hip and my Ruger on my back waist band. Manager was called to the front and then confronted me on the pancake mix isle. He asked if I was a cop, I replied nope and went back to looking at the mixes when he said you'll have to leave the store. I replied that I would not because there were no signs posted stating no weapons allowed. He said he had the right to refuse service to anyone, so I told him I would cover them if it made him happy. So I did and we went about our ways. Funny and sad at the same time is that about 2 months later the store was robbed at gun point and I think 2 clerks were shot or maybe it was one, bet the manager wishes I was there that day. Thanks again for all the great stories and now that I know of this site I will check back often. R/ Ralph p.s. On a side note I was robbed 2 times in the same week about a month after the foodlion incident while I was underway still living in the Nickerson plaza area and they got me for my Springfield, Ruger, roomates glock, my bulletproof vest. Thank God my girlfriend now wife didn't walk in on them she could have been killed or worse. |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Linkenrw2005 wrote: p.s. On a side note I was robbed 2 times in the same week about a month after the foodlion incident while I was underway still living in the Nickerson plaza area and they got me for my Springfield, Ruger, roomates glock, my bulletproof vest. Thank God my girlfriend now wife didn't walk in on them she could have been killed or worse. Might be a point there to have a gunsafe if you are going to open carry. The criminials will know which house to hit fi they're shopping for guns by just by following you home. |
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Linkenrw2005 Regular Member
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One other thing I forgot to mention was one of the first OC trips I took to the Wal-mart in Hampton, my wife dropped me off at the front and as I got out with my Springfield some teenagers saw it and said SH*% hes got a gun and took off the other way. Made me feel good. R/ ralph |
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Linkenrw2005 Regular Member
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Neplusultra wrote: Linkenrw2005 wrote:p.s. On a side note I was robbed 2 times in the same week about a month after the foodlion incident while I was underway still living in the Nickerson plaza area and they got me for my Springfield, Ruger, roomates glock, my bulletproof vest. Thank God my girlfriend now wife didn't walk in on them she could have been killed or worse. My old roomates and I believed it was the people who lived across the street and one house over. They knew we were going underway due to them hanging out with the people living next door that were also on the same ship, or atleast that was our conclusion but could never prove it because they happened to have moved the day before we got back. As far as the gun safe my roomate had a small safe maybe (70-90 lbs) bolted to the floor in his closet he kept his glock in but they snatched the whole safe ripped it right out of the floor and used the banister on the stairs to help get it down. I do appreciate the advice as a nice big gun safe is on my list of to get items but I do live in the 2nd amendment hating state of Maryland. |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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OC this week heading to Charlottesville... Stopped at Sams to fill up (thereby doubling the worth of my Jeep) I was wearing a Shoulder rig with my Kimber RCP As I was filling (and feeling faint from the $$$$ whirring past on the pump) I noticed the attendant (who I speak with often) came over and patted under his arm and said,, I gotta get me one of those... It was a great interchange, I guess he has never noticed my guns before this...anyway he now knows about open carry and his rights in VA. FreeFlight. |
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OC'd at Doc Taylor's on 23rd st Virginia Beach. It's right next to Tautogs. Both have GREAT food and good prices We sat right at the bar and didn't get even a blink from anyone except for the thugs on the strip, more than block away! [/url][url=http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&geocode=&q=restaurant&near=205+23rd+St,+Virginia+Beach,+VA+23451,+USA&jsv=111&sll=36.851165,-75.975947&sspn=0.011144,0.018733&ie=UTF8&latlng=36851160,-75975971,10935401786068715277&ei=Um0oSNXqO6eArQLq9dyFDg&cd=4] |
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LexRex Regular Member
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Ok, I've got some catching-up to do. Over the past few weeks, all without incident: The new Harris Teeter on Ferrel Pkwy; Hardees at Mt. Pleasant and Centerville; WalMart in Greenbrier; Target in Greenbrier; Walgreens, UPS Store, Food Lion, and Subway at Centerville and Kempsville; PlayItAgain Sports in Greenbrier; The ABC Store on Ferrel; One of those auto mechanics near Indian River near Kempsville; For lunch at Red Robin near Greenbrier Mall; Moe's at Providence and Kempsville; Almost daily to my local FarmFresh for coffee; And, too many nearby stop-n-rob/gas stations to list. Naturally, I've received a few odd looks. But, in all honesty, I can't attribute the glances to anything other than a few people practicing their own situational awareness. Apologies for being lax in my reporting. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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OC'd last night at Olive Garden on Va Beach Blvd near Military Hwy. Place was packed with standing room only. Received far more looks than I could count . Several moms pulled kids away from where I was standing and kneeling by my wife and kids in the waiting area but none made any comment to the fact it was because of me. Mind you we waited nearly 40 minutes to be seated. Had one perdy lady say she thought it was sexy. My wife told her to go find her own in pleasant terms. Also had a few folks ask if I was a cop or law enforcement of any kind. I said no other than 2 years as military police. Most didn't even know it was legal for someone to OC in VA. I told them it was and that by law in VA you had to in places that sold alcohol for on site use. Overall, aside from the long wait, I had no issues and get this, not one person ran if fear of their life except to beat the rain to their cars. Oh and I was one of them. |
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Chkultr Regular Member
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I could be blind but I do not see anything about oc in Williamsburg/Colonial Williamsburg! I will be up there doing the tourist thing with the inlaws this weekend. This is close enough to the 7 cities and I personally consider it local! |
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FretlessMayhem Regular Member
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I carried openly at Best Buy in Greenbrier today. Not so much as a single look. |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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Chkultr, There have been threads on OC in Colonial Williamsburg. Some folks have had a downright positive experience OC'ing there. Check the archives. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd at Chesapeake DMV twice on Monday. No problems. Well no problems with OC. This this is not the forum to vent about non gun issues, so I will refrain from whining about those slower than molasses, brain dead government employees here. |
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roscoe13 Regular Member
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Thundar wrote: brain dead government employees No need to be redundant... |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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OC In Guys Paradise II (Northern Tools) then on to Taco Bell and an upscale apartment complex just over the JRB (Can't recall the name of it) No troubles |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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No problems or at Pep Boys on Lynnhaven yesterday. Got a few but nothing else at Charles Barker Toyota. |
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Chkultr Regular Member
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Here is one for you......I went to my local Ace Hardware to get my screens replaced. Now as most of us we pride ourselves in being aware of our surroundings. A bit more than the person that does not carry.....Today was not the case. As I walked down the plumbing ailse towards the service desk an employee was coming from the warehouse part with a cart full of merchandise. I tried backing up to make sure I was out of his way. I did NOT see the baskets of stock on the floor and tripped over them falling into the shelves of plumbing supplies! Man did I feel like a dumb a$$! Now for the really good part..... the employee asked if I was ok and I told him yes just a little pride is bruised. He said that is ok and told me to find the guy with the mustache and let him know that the guy with glasses hit me hard even with my gun on my hip. That lightened the mood... We continued talking about guns and I told him that you do not need a permit to oc. He told me that he was interested in getting one! I tried to point him in the right direction. He asked me if I ever had to use it and I told him yes and we started talking about those situations...While that was going on a woman walked up to the desk and listened in. After my story she then chimes in with "I had to use mine too. She said that her now deceased husband wanted her to carry and she did and even got a ccw. She said good thing because I am known to make wrong turns and end up where n a bad part of town. She said she ended up in downtown Richmond. She stopped at the stoplight and before she knew it her car was surrounded by thugs. She said she reached for her pistol pointed it out the window and she said they ran like roaches when the lights come on!" Whew... man that is a long story.... by the way no problems oc'ing in the ace hardware Last edited on Wed May 14th, 2008 10:04 pm by Chkultr |
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AbNo Regular Member
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Chkultr wrote:He... ....told me to find the guy with the mustache and let him know that the guy with glasses hit me hard even with my gun on my hip. |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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Chkultr wrote: Here is one for you......I went to my local Ace Hardware to get my screens replaced. Now as most of us we pride ourselves in being aware of our surroundings. A bit more than the person that does not carry.....Today was not the case. As I walked down the plumbing ailse towards the service desk an employee was coming from the warehouse part with a cart full of merchandise. I tried backing up to make sure I was out of his way. I did NOT see the baskets of stock on the floor and tripped over them falling into the shelves of plumbing supplies! Man did I feel like a dumb a$$! I am truly amazed at the percentage of interactions that are positive or involve people that want to get a gun and carry. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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OC'd @ Home Depot on Lynnhaven and Princess Anne in VB |
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Eeyore Regular Member
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Anna's Pizza in Hilton Village. Don't think anyone noticed, including the kids at the next table (strong side). |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd at Leslie's Pool Supply, VABC Store, Best Buy in Greenbrier with no problems. OCd at the Chesapeake Jubilee. Massive police presence, but the gun on my hip was a non-issue. I left before it started raining. OCd at Farm Fresh on Centerville Turnpike and the Hess station on South Battlefield Blvd. |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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OC'd at Walgreens on Lynnhaven Pkwy between Princess Anne Rd and Salem Rd. No problems or whatsoever. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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I have OC'd at about every gas station in Great Bridge and Greenbriar of Chesapeake. Ummm ... lowes and home depot again (battlefield blvd), no issue. what else .... Battlefield Wal Mart @ 2am |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd Sunday 18 May in Great Bridge at Zoots Cleaners, Tropical Smoothie Cafe, Dollar Tree and Radio Shack. No problems. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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Thundar wrote: OCd Sunday 18 May in Great Bridge at Zoots Cleaners, Tropical Smoothie Cafe, Dollar Tree and Radio Shack. No problems. Seriously, between you and I, Great Bridge seems to be ok. lol Have you gone anywhere in Great Bridge where you had a problem? I haven't and I've been all over GB. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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Don't know if I mentioned this previously, but ... Just got home from OC'ing @ Wild Wing Cafe in Chesapeake near Battlefield blvd Wal-Mart. This is actually my 4th time doing so having gone at both dinner and lunch times. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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C45P312 wrote: Thundar wrote:OCd Sunday 18 May in Great Bridge at Zoots Cleaners, Tropical Smoothie Cafe, Dollar Tree and Radio Shack. No problems. I have never had a real problem in Great Bridge. I had a few words with an anti while voting this year. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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C45P312 wrote: Thundar wrote:OCd Sunday 18 May in Great Bridge at Zoots Cleaners, Tropical Smoothie Cafe, Dollar Tree and Radio Shack. No problems. I have never had a real problem in Great Bridge. I had a few words with an anti while voting this year. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd Wednesday 21st at: Chesapeake City Hall, Bloom on South Battlefield, Walgreen's in Great Bridge, Navy FCU on Centerville Turnpike and the Credit Union Service Center on Battlefield Blvd, across from the Hospital No problems, as usual. |
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dkd Regular Member
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Thundar wrote: OCd Wednesday 21st at:aahhh Thundar I envy you everytime i hear you speak of these locations in Great Bridge i used to frequent...i cant wait until i can move back home, im not too fond of NoVa...smh |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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OC'd @ Blooms and both Farm Freshs in Great Bridge several times at all hours. |
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WhatTimeIsIt? Regular Member
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Spent a couple hours at MacArthur Center today while open carrying, no issues. |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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WhatTimeIsIt? wrote: Spent a couple hours at MacArthur Center today while open carrying, no issues. They're not "posted"? |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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OC'd @ ABC Store on Providence and Kempsville in VB along with that Food Lion there too |
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AbNo Regular Member
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the ABC Store can't really do much about OC, can they? |
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WhatTimeIsIt? Regular Member
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vbnative73 wrote: WhatTimeIsIt? wrote:Spent a couple hours at MacArthur Center today while open carrying, no issues. I didn't see any signs anywhere, granted I didn't spend a whole lot of time looking. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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WhatTimeIsIt? wrote: vbnative73 wrote:WhatTimeIsIt? wrote:Spent a couple hours at MacArthur Center today while open carrying, no issues. Ya same here. In and out. Didn't seen any signs on the door nor did the cashier say anything. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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OC'd around 6pm today @ Battlefield Wal-Mart Chesapeake and the Texas Roadhouse right there as well. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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forgot to mention that I OC'd @ Wild Wing again on Battlefield Blvd in CHesapeake last tuesday. Can't beat 16 wings for $7! |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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A fellow co-worker whom I recently turned onto this site and to open carrying, OC'ed into PF Changs on Va. Beach Blvd with his wife last night or night before, the person at the front door asked if he was LEO or Military and he replied "What?" Guy said they only allow LEO's and Military personnel to carry in here. So my buddy showed him his military ID card and was good to go. No further questions. He said he told the guy after he showed his military ID that it was legal to OC in Va, but the guy didn't really respond. Thoughts? |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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OC'd at the ABC store in Churchland and at the Peking Restaurant in Williamsburg. The folks at the ABC store were very helpful in finding the finest tequila and mixers for my Memorial Day Margs! |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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OC'd farm fresh on battlefield in great bridge of chesapeake |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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DocDaddy, We tried to have an OC dinner at the same PFChangs a few years ago when we were first starting out. The manager said in no uncertain terms that OC wasn't allowed there except for law enforcement. Even said they had a sign. We checked, and there was no sign. We went to Kelly's Tavern instead and had no problem with the staff. In fact have been there about 3 times. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd at Moe's Southwestern Grill near Lynnhaven Mall with daughter and friend. No prob's! Dutch- PF Changs is too expensive anyways and if they don't want the buisness, that's fine. But it was silly that they only allowed LEO's and Military (as long as you had a military ID), doesn't matter if it is legal for the normal person to OC in VA or not. |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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DocDaddy, What our group needs is a bonafide Virginia sheriff who can temporarily deputize all of us just before a dinner so our whole "posse" can walk into Changs. That would probably make the evening news. |
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denwego Regular Member
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Update for the past week or so. OC'd at: The VA Beach DMV Red Lobster near Lynnhaven Mall Applebee's near Lynnhaven Mall Pi-zzeria down on Pacific Ave. near the beach Saltwater taffy/candy store by Pi-zzeria Starbucks on Lynnhaven Parkway All around downtown Norfolk and VA Beach on walks Walking the dog around the neighborhood near Ocean NAS Not a sideways glance yet from anyone. |
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kbeazzy Regular Member 
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Hey everybody I am new to this forum just got my permit and gun busted my oc cherry at BJ on military highway and Food Lion on Graby St. No problems just a couple of but thats all. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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Dutch Uncle wrote: DocDaddy, Wonder if LEO229 would be willing to help out on this one? Hahaha! Can he do it over the internet? |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd Sunday evening at Chilli's on Nimmo Parkway with daughter and friend |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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Sat May 31. IHOP- Female server made comment about her boyfriend also OC'd and he and she had CCW permits. Told her good for them we need more folks like us around. Home Depot, Wal-Mart, and Target with no more than just a couple second looks. All these places are on Military Highway in Norfolk. Sat/Sun May 31/ Jun 1 OC while fishing at the CBBT fishing pier. No issues other than we cought so many fish and I got tired of cleaning them all. |
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kbeazzy Regular Member
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Took my lil girl to the Fun Forest park in Chesapeake park had a fun time loved it oc'd of course no or anything like that nice park will be there again on Sat |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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Bullbuster wrote: Sat/Sun May 31/ Jun 1 What kind of fish do you catch there? OC'd @ Farm Fresh on battlefield blvd in Chesapeake Texas road House in Chesapeake starbucks and gotti's grinders on ceder road on chesapeake |
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kbeazzy Regular Member
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Just came from Greenbraiar Dodge a lady came and ask me was I a cop. Me: No Lady: Then why do you have a gun? Me: Virigina is a open carry state and I believe in my right to bear arms Lady: I should tell my husband to carry his Me: lol all Americans should you have a nice day. |
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LexRex Regular Member
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Once again, I'm catching up for the past two weeks, or so. These are the highlights. (Sorry if they run long.) Albino Cleaners (funny name) at Centerville/Volvo; had a pleasant conversation with an owner/manager while she was struggling with her computer--she never even blinked at my sidearm. 7-11 at the same intersection, different day. It was fairly busy (mid-afternoon) and I went straight to the counter to get some smokes (yes, I know, they're bad for me). The clerk was a seemingly respectable young man (20ish). As I was about to comment on the incredibly bright sun blinding me through the window, he tried to joke around, held his hands in the air, and said laughingly, "Don't shoot. I surrender." It was fairly loud in there, and not many people even noticed him. I didn't acknowledge it and continued my comment on the burning of my retinas. Then, as I was swiping my card, he did the same thing. At this point, in a relatively low voice, I said, "Don't joke around about it man. People these days...they just...you never know." Clerk: You a cop? Me: (nonchalant) Nope. Clerk: Just for protection? Me: Yep...It's like insurance better to have it and not need it..." Clerk: Yeah, always good to know you can bust a cap in somebody's ass if you need to. Me: (shaking my head out the door) Something like that. Have a good day. On the one hand, I'm glad that he obviously wasn't bothered by me carrying. Hell, he was probably so familiar with firearms that he just didn't think twice about joking around. On the other hand, I was caught off guard by his reaction and slightly concerned about what other people would think. Oh well. My only other recent encounter was loading up groceries at Farm Fresh. The lady in the car next to me was trying to get her kid out of the back seat, and I was waiting patiently, holding my door closed. I noticed her eyes fixated on my weapon. Lady: (concerned tone) Someone could just grab your gun! Me: (trying to think of how to quickly explain the retention lock on my Serpa) Uh, no. Not really...it's got a way to... Lady: (interrupting me) Oh, it's locked down in there? Me: Yes mam. They would really have to know what they were doing to get it out of there. (She finished locking the doors as I began loading.) Lady: (once again, concerned) It's just...people are crazy. I just worry. (She was obviously talking about the risk of someone grabbing my weapon and going nuts.) Me: (spinning her concern) You're exactly right! You just never know! It's one of the main reasons I carry a weapon. Lady: (puzzled) Oh, so you're not a cop or anything? Me: No mam. If I could carry a cop, I would, but I can't. (Thanks to whoever came up with that line.)Lady: (started chuckling) I just got a mental image of you carrying a cop. Me: It's the truth. If I could carry one I would, but until then... The conversation ended with pleasantries and smiles. This was my first real encounter. All in all, I was pleased that it went well (notwithstanding her irrational fear of an inanimate object). |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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C45P312 wrote: Bullbuster wrote:Sat/Sun May 31/ Jun 1 In 8 hours between my buddy, cousin, and I we caught a couple skate and cow face ray, 3 small striper's, 30+ each of blues, shad, spot, and croaker, about 20 flounder, 2 drum, a dozen or so puffer, 1 ugly fish a guy called a mother-in-law fish, and some blue crabs. The bite was really on as in total we hauled in close to 150 fish. Mind you we fished from about 6pm till 3am. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd Tuesday evening at Carrabba's Italian Grill near Lynnhaven Mall with daughter and Mom. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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Bullbuster wrote: C45P312 wrote:Bullbuster wrote:Sat/Sun May 31/ Jun 1 Let me know the next time you go. I could probably catch the tail end of your session there when I get off of work. 9pm-3am still ain't bad lol. None of my friends like fishing espcially if I plan to be there for quite some time. what you use as bait? OC'd @ BAKER'S CRUST on 21st St in Norfolk Tuesday Night 8ish (June 3) Last edited on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 08:24 pm by C45P312 |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd at Great Bridge Farm Fresh and Great Bridge Dairy Queen. I got a big from one of the teenagers at the DQ but no issues either place. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd Wensday at Chilli's on Nimmo Parkway for lunch with daughter, friend, and another friend who just got back from deployment and that is where he wanted to go for his first meal back in the States. Manager met us at door as she was playing hostess as well and had her hands up and said we could sit anywhere we wanted. I just smiled and she sat us. There wasn't that many people there to begin with and nobody even noticed. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd Thursday for lunch at Hooters on General Booth with daughter and friend. OC'd today (Friday) for lunch at Fuddruckers on Va. Beach Blvd. with daughter |
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kbeazzy Regular Member
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oc at kmart on military hwy very good day |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd tonight (Friday) for dinner @ Casablancas Mexican Restaurant out in Suffolk (Harbour View Blvd) with daughter, Mom, and 7 month old niece. |
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WhatTimeIsIt? Regular Member
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OC'd yesterday to the Wal-Mart off 17 in Chesapeake. I was stopped at the door by the greeter. He asked, "Are you a cop?" I replied, "No." "I'm not sure you are allowed to do that here." "Do you have a policy against it?" He replies, "I'm going to go check." He walks off and comes back a couple minutes later with the manager. She basically states that unless I am a cop I cannot carry there. I replied that was fine and that I'd take my money elsewhere and I walked out of the store. First time I've ever been asked to leave anywhere, even though I've carried to that Wal-Mart maybe 5 times before.  |
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kbeazzy Regular Member
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WhatTimeIsIt? wrote: OC'd yesterday to the Wal-Mart off 17 in Chesapeake. I was stopped at the door by the greeter. I hope they dont start this at all the walmart becaues I OC'D 3-4 times |
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Sleepless Regular Member
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Just to let you guys know. Walmart Corporate Office has decided that the Walmart store has to follow the law according to where it is located so in Virginia they can not under any circumstances deny you to open carry in their Virginia stores, so they are breaking company policy denying you entry so you should ask them next time to call corporate with you and ask what the specific rule is and if you want you can also call corporate afterwards and file a complaint too. Let me see if I can find the info for it. |
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kbeazzy Regular Member
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Sleepless wrote: Just to let you guys know. thanks man I love this forum |
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Sleepless Regular Member
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I found a link to a thread here on the OCDO website and on it is a link to a voicemail message from an assistant at Walmart Corporate stating that they have no legal right to throw you out and asks the person to call them at a certain number. http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/2780.html Enjoy and have an amazing week. Opps sorry I totally screwed up. That link has the transcript but this link below has the actual voicemail. http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum26/4063.html Hope this helps you guys. Btw if they claim that they don't allow guns there then it is possible that they have been looking too much into the employee policy and not the actual customer policy from Walmart Corporate Office. Last edited on Sun Jun 8th, 2008 02:51 am by Sleepless |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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OC'd @ Harborfest 6-10pm saturday |
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AbNo Regular Member
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Hmm, I guess I can buy things at Wal-mart again. At least, the one here on 33. |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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WhatTimeIsIt? wrote: OC'd yesterday to the Wal-Mart off 17 in Chesapeake. I was stopped at the door by the greeter. Wow - and I just posted on another thread that we don't have this problem in the Tidewater area.....please be sure to follow up with the information provided so we can nip this manager's opinion in the bud. |
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Went to Va Beach for our annual beach trip Wednesday, 06-04, thru Sunday, 06-08. OCed at various restaurants (see Restaurant Carry thread). OCed throughout the hotel (Breakers Resort Inn). Due to the heat, didn't venture out much to Atlantic Ave, except for walking to get something to eat. Spent sometime on the boardwalk, mostly sitting on a bench people-watching. No problems. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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Bubba Ron wrote: WhatTimeIsIt? wrote:I've OC'd twice @ Greenfield Wal Mart off of Dominion Blvd. And numerour times @ Battlefield Wal-Mart.OC'd yesterday to the Wal-Mart off 17 in Chesapeake. I was stopped at the door by the greeter. Just got back from OC'ing @ IHOP on battlefield in chesapeake |
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Chkultr Regular Member
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I got up and made my way to the big box store Sun. morn on the hunt for a Wii Fit! The box store is in the new shopping center at Landstown Commons. We recieved a voucher so we had to stand in line at customer service. While standing in line I heard a womans voice..... Woman"what are you carrying?" me " a .45" ( and i moved my arm so she could see fully she nodded me" maam waht are you carrying?" woman me oh nothing I do not have a permit" me "maam you do not need a permit to oc just to cc" Woman " nobody says anything?" me "not really" woman "that is cuz you are white" me "no maam not really. it is legal so what can they say?" she smiled and i gave her the card i had from the VCDL deffender I had cut out and laminated! Turned one on for us! By the way she has a .45 also!!!! |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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OC on Wed 4 Jun to Craig Smith Kick boxing Studio. Now for the story of my interesting trip. My kids and wife take classes their so I OC from time to time depending on what I'm wearing. I was sitting on the couch in the waiting area and got up to allow a lady to sit. When I did she said "You look Young to be a cop". I said thanks and I was 30 and active duty Navy. She responded by saying "guns kill, and that Craig (the owner) would be mad if he saw me with it, and that I should get rid of it". Craig came in from the dojo and she told him I had a gun. Craig said "really" walked over to me and asked what kind it was. I said "A S&W MDL 410 .40". Craig said he liked the new M&P and walked behind the counter and pulled his out and showed it to me. The lady on the couch with a shocked look on her face said "Guns kill". Craig said "No a$$holes behind them do". Craig said anyone was welcome to carry a gun in his place, and if others didn't like it they could deal with it. I was shocked to find out he also OC'd and CCW. For a guy who's a national ranked martial artist. We had a great talk and I referred him to OCDO as well. Craig Smith Kick boxing is in Va Beach off Oceania Blvd and Harpers Rd. I can say with confidence that this is a place I'll have no issues OCing. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd at Blooms on South Battlefield and Three Amigos on Battlefield in Chesapeake. No issues. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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OC to my kids karate practice again and then to Ruby Tuesday's on Hampton Blvd in Norfolk. Other than an overcooked steak all was fine. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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Add from last week... OC'd at Schlotzsky's Deli near Lynnhaven Mall. As my daughter and I were leaving, a VBPD was coming out of the business next door and just glanced over as I was opening the door for my daughter (strong side facing him) and he just went about his merry business. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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OC'd Friday the 13th with wife and another couple (with good luck) To Smokey Bones in Va Beach near Pembroke Mall. Fantastic food. Had a nice chat with one of Va Beach's LEO's. SB has a full time uniformed officer as they have had 3 patrons robbed in the parking lot in the last month 1 at gun point. He said (can't remember officers name) he had no issues with folks OCing as long as its done tastefully and they are not wearing multiple guns be it on the hip or shoulder rigs (said he would ask that they put some in there car and just carry one) or large flashing guns that tend to draw attention. Said he hardly noticed mine as it blended in so well with my black slacks and dark shirt. My point exactly. After dinner went to Lynnhaven Mall to the movies to see the new Indy movie. Didn't want to wait 2 hours for next show and mall was closed so we walked around the plaza area for awhile and listened to a live musician. Lots of security and LEO's around. Not one problem, but did have a couple wannabee thugs say nice gun as we strolled past. |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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Sorry we missed the last dinner. Had a problem to fix with my daughter and the ex-wife... That night I stopped at the 7-11 in Lightfoot to get a drink and didn't put my vest on. As I paid for the drink, the teller saw my .45 and asked me if I was law-enforcement. I replied negative. He said that 7-11 doesn't allow armed customers in the store. I said that I used to stop in that store every night on my way home from work and that it never was a problem. He said it was a problem now. I casually mentioned that the management at this store used to give me free drinks while I was working and that they used to insist that I carry openly while in the store. He said they only do that for police officers. I told him that I was a Deputy Sheriff back then and made it a point to stop in at this store everyday on my way home from work and that I was here 10 minutes before a teller at that same store was shot and killed during a robbery..."If I had only stayed for a second cup of coffee maybe that old man would still be alive...", I reflected. He said. "Oh!...You can carry here whenever you want." WTF, over? This doesn't pass the "Common Sense Test". |
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Thundar Regular Member
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ODA 226 wrote: Sorry we missed the last dinner. Had a problem to fix with my daughter and the ex-wife... I think the clerk was making up his own policy. When you told him that you used to be a deputy sheriff and that you might have been able to keep a clerk from getting killed you went from potential threat to security blanket. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OC'd today at Great Bridge Zoots and Auto Zone. No problems. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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ATTENTION GREAT BRIDGE CHESAPEAKE*** S Battfield Blvd FARM FRESH. ^ that's right folks, the same Farm Fresh I've been OC'ing to for the past year. Maybe even some of you. Nonetheless, I went in a little past 11pm tonight to get Ice Cream for my GF and I for her AC was down at the apartment complex and she's been living off a fan for the last 2 days. First off, the automatic sliding door didn't see to work on the right hand side so I thought they were close. But right on the door, it said 6am - Midnight for their store hours. So I tried the Automatic Sliding doors on the left, and they work. I went back outside to try the right side again, and no go. So I thought something was wrong, peered around from the front doors, and nothing too out of the ordinary. So i hop along to the left side of the store to get some ice cream. There was a farm fresh employee placing product on the shelf ... "Sir, do you guys normally lock the right set of sliding doors?" "Yes, is there a problem? We lock em past 10pm" "No, just that I looked liked an idiot trying to use that entrance hehe." "Oh, is there no sign?" "Nope." "Sorry about that" "No worries, just thought I'd let you know." *Conversaion was not exact but pretty much how it went down upon first interaction. I went ahead to the ice cream section, picked out my flavors, and then headed towards check out. Starting with the same farm fresh employee (Mark, Asst. Manager) who is coming up from behind me as I'm walking towards checkout ... "Excuse me, can I please see some ID" "Sure, is there a problem?" (Reaching into my pocket) "You aren't allowed to have a firearm in here unless you're law enforcement" "Oh I'm sorry, was there a sign that said I couldn't carry in here?" (Stopped reaching in my pocket for ID, lol) "There is not sign, but it's Virginia law that you can't bring firearms onto private party which this here is" "Sorry sir, but if there is no sign that prohibits me from carrying here, then I am in my right" (I continue walking to checkout) "Well then, I'll make sure that there's a sign next time and I'd appreciate it if you don't return with a firearm" "Can you please write down your name and position for me" (As I'm swipping my credit card) "Here you go" (Hands me the paper with his name and position, Mark Asst Mgr) "Thanks Mark, have a good night." (Proceeded to my vehicle while he "escorts" me out. Even stays outside to make sure i left the premisces I guess) Last edited on Tue Jun 17th, 2008 05:00 am by C45P312 |
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Thundar Regular Member
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What???? A problem in Great Bridge? I'm going to go to Farm Fresh tomorrow. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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Funny you say that, because I will be going too! Thundar wrote: What???? A problem in Great Bridge? |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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It's got to be that the Ass Manager's on a power trip - we've been to several Farm Freshes in Tidewater and have never had any problems. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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Bubba Ron wrote: It's got to be that the Ass Manager's on a power trip - we've been to several Farm Freshes in Tidewater and have never had any problems. Probably. Nonetheless, I get off @ 1pm and guess where I'm picking up my lunch :-P I'm sure many a times we've all OC'd @ Farm Fresh |
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C45P312 wrote: SNIP Wow, you got ID'd for ice cream?! And I thought Maryland was bad . You should have told him the flavor of ice cream you were buying did not contain alcohol or nicotine and per Virginia law, would not require ID to legally purchase. At least you still got out of there with the ice cream! In Maryland, the ice cream and your firearm would have been confiscated as evidence...but I'm sure the ice cream would have never made it to trial. |
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For those that went to the store today: any news? |
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Thundar Regular Member
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power_shack wrote: For those that went to the store today: any news? I e-mailed Farm Fresh last night. This afternoon I got a phone call from the corporate head of loss prevention. He said that Farm Fresh follows state law. Since open carry is allowed in Virginia we are welcome to open carry in Farm Fresh. He blamed the problem on a manager transfered from a state with more restrictive gun laws and said that an e-mail had been sent to all Virginia stores reminding them of Farm Fresh policy. Bottom Line - Open Carry welcome in all Virginia Farm Fresh Stores. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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I had no problem OCing at Great Bridge Farm Fresh today. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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I too recieved a call from corporate. What ever is allowed in VA, is allowed in Farm Fresh. Thundar wrote: power_shack wrote:For those that went to the store today: any news? |
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AbNo Regular Member
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I don't suppose we could get a copy or screen @#$% of this email? |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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OC'd to Auto Zone on Hampton Blvd in Norfolk today 17 June. Was cheerfully greeted by Mike a salesman and he assisted me with my shopping. Mike apparently seen my gun and began to inform that he was also a gun owner and advocate of gun rights. Said he wasn't so big on OCing but supported it as we are all in it for one reason and thats the right to carry. We talked about guns and what we carried and the weather. I found out Mike is a S&W M&P lover and as I was leaving he said next time I come back I needed to be carrying an M&P. Said I'd have to talk to the boss but I'm always up for a new piece. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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AbNo wrote: I don't suppose we could get a copy or screen @#$% of this email? He did not offer, it was an email from him to the store managers. |
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Eeyore Regular Member
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OCed in Hooters in Hampton Saturday--non-event in a crowded resaurant. Call me old-fashioned, but I'm always surprised at how many parent bring young children to Hooters.  Did some browsing at Bob's in Norfolk Monday. I got to fondle several weapons, and the guy behind the counter (could've been Bob, for all I know) regaled me with what a great shot he was, why he disliked grip safeties, and how he disagreed with open carry. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. |
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DrMark Lone Star Veteran
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Eeyore wrote: Did some browsing at Bob's in Norfolk Monday. I got to fondle several weapons, and the guy behind the counter (could've been Bob, for all I know) regaled me with what a great shot he was, why he disliked grip safeties, and how he disagreed with open carry. uh-oh |
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Nelson_Muntz Activist Member
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Lisa, Bart and I will be visiting Patty and Selma at Conway and Granby in Norfolk this weekend. Last time I was there a Navy Lt. was gunned down while walking with his fiancee in this neighborhood. This incident caused Patty and Selma to look more favorable toward me OC'ing when around them. Bart and Lisa like killing paper at the range with me, and my plan was to also take Patty and Selma. Baby steps. Advice on nearby ranges? Smell ya later... |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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Nelson_Muntz wrote: Lisa, Bart and I will be visiting Patty and Selma at Conway and Granby in Norfolk this weekend. Last time I was there a Navy Lt. was gunned down while walking with his fiancee in this neighborhood. This incident caused Patty and Selma to look more favorable toward me OC'ing when around them. Down Granby St. there's a Gun store/range called Bob's Gun Shop |
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Nelson_Muntz Activist Member
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Thanks! Can't get any closer than that. |
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LexRex Regular Member
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Thundar and C45P312: thanks for sharing that info re Farm Fresh. I really appreciate that not only did you confirm the store's policy, but also, that you shared it with the rest of us. I regularly OC at various Farm Fresh stores. While I haven't had any issues yet, it's comforting to know that the company policy mirrors state law. I will continue to give them my business, even more so, because of their position on this issue. Some of the recent outings (quick trips into stop-n-robs not included): Angie's Family Restaurant on Centerville (near Mt. Pleasant): Nice little mom-n-pop establishment. Not too many people when I was there, and I sat strong side to the wall. All the same, no issues. Most people in there seemed like good hard-working folk that wouldn't mind firearms in the least. Alp's Cafe (at Kempsville and Volvo): Again, a small little mom-n-pop place. Wonderful down-home food--Carolina BBQ --and very friendly service. I was there with the Boss and it seemed like the owners/managers were the only other folks in there. They never even blinked at my sidearm. Very friendly folks. I will definitely be going back there, and I would encourage others to check it out. Farm Fresh: shocker, no issues. At one point two senior managers/supervisors walked right past me and the Boss. They couldn't have missed my sidearm and didn't even flinch. Bed, Bath, and Beyond (Greenbrier): I was only in long enough for the Boss to find her stuff. I hate that place. Hallmark (Greenbrier): ditto. PlayItAgain Sports (Greenbrier): Had to get some used golf balls. I lose too many to warrant buying new ones. No problems. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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LexRex wrote: Thundar and C45P312: thanks for sharing that info re Farm Fresh. I really appreciate that not only did you confirm the store's policy, but also, that you shared it with the rest of us. I regularly OC at various Farm Fresh stores. While I haven't had any issues yet, it's comforting to know that the company policy mirrors state law. I will continue to give them my business, even more so, because of their position on this issue. Anytime, that same night it happened 11pm I sent in a Comment via the Farm Fresh website letting them know what happened and to please call, not e-mail, me when they get a chance to confirm thier policy on firearms. The guy was very well spoken and asured me that Mark, the Asst Mgr, was in the wrong and not to worry anymore. I too will continue to give them my business. |
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AbNo Regular Member
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C45P312 wrote:ATTENTION GREAT BRIDGE CHESAPEAKE*** Proper response: "I'm going to have to see some identification first." Also, I'll be sure to stop by that FF while I'm down there. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd last night with friend at Malibu Max's in Red Mills Common off of Nimmo Pkwy and Upton Drive. Damn good food! |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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Oc'ed in a shoulder holster no problems, Blockbuster corner of denbigh and warwick, Sonic, Trader Joes (The guy checking out the groceries asked me if I where "Practicing my second amendment rights" I said yup... he said "I like That!" anyway it was a very positive encounter, told him about opencarry.org too. Live free or DIE FreeFlight |
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WhatTimeIsIt? Regular Member
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OC'd yesterday to MacArthur Center, Primo Pizza, and Harris Teeter. No issues. |
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cwolfs69 Regular Member 
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was recently stopped at the wal-mart at college drive and 664 in suffolk and ask if i were a policeman. told her no and she said that i couldnt come in with the gun. explained that i was in there often with my gun and neveer had a problem and that it was perfectly legal to do so. she called over a "supervisor" or someone to aid in my diversion i guess. she and i had pretty much the same conversation. at that time she said to wait just a minute and went into the office. came out about 1 minute later and apologized to me for the delay and sid that i was okay to go in. informed the other girl that it was okay also. good experience in the end. |
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AbNo Regular Member
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Educating people: Always a good experience. |
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WhatTimeIsIt? Regular Member
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OC'd to MacArthur Center again today, as well as Bank of Hampton Roads, Loretta's, and RadioShack in Great Bridge. |
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Nelson_Muntz Activist Member
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Ward's Corner: Kroger - Guard/off duty leo(?) ignored me. Check out girl was friendly. Farm Fresh - No issues BP - NI McD's - No issues inside. Walked across the parking lot to my vehicle by the Virginia Ham place. Unlocked door and entered as Norfolk's finest pulled up. Started up and watched the mirror. Cruiser pulled forward behind my bumper blocking me in. I put it in reverse and waited for the lights... Nothing. Cruiser backed into a parking space behind me and watched me leave. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd for dinner tonight @ Olive Garden in Chesapeake Square Mall Area. Went with Mother, Sister, Sister's Boyfriend and Neice. Stood strongside facing main waiting area for 10min as we waited for a table playing with my Neice. Manager was there the whole time and all was quiet. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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June 21st OC'd to the VCDL picnic. Only issue was I saw many sidearms I wished I had. Post picnic trip to Bass Pro. No problem from staff at all. Had a gentleman at the gun counter ask what I had and how I liked it then recommended several small frame guns that make carrying better. Only issue was just a mother who felt this country was going to hell for allowing folks to OC. Her son asked me if I was a cop and I sad "NO". He then asked why I had it. I said "because its our God given right, and the second amendment gives us that right". They said cool and thats when mom chimed in with her 2 cents and took off with her kids. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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Bullbuster wrote: June 21st Must have been from New Jersey!!! |
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AbNo Regular Member
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Ran around Norfolk over the weekend. Mostly in Ghent. Went with a buddy to pick up his Uhaul, loaded some furniture, loaded a LOT of useless, dirty junk. Unloaded it. No events, no , no nothing. Didn't get ANYTHING I'd planned done, either, though. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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DocDaddy wrote: Bullbuster wrote:June 21st Maybe yet the kids had been playing the big shooting game. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd for lunch yesterday with friend at Azteca Mexican Restauraunt on East Littlecreek Road in Norfolk. No probs! |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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OC'ed again Sunday at Cinco de Mayo In Grafton no troubles...not even any |
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zoom6zoom Regular Member
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Yesterday, Sonic, Tidewater Military Traders, and Extended Stay America (hotel). Today I've had some good encounters as well. Stopped in at The Armory to pick up a few thousand rounds of ammo, had a good discussion about OC and left a few OC info cards behind. Stopped for lunch at Arby's (VB Blvd near Independence). A young black kid (14 or 15) asked me if I was a detective. No, just a citizen, I told him. "Wow, you can just carry it out like that?" "Yes, if you're not a felon, it's legal to carry in Virginia". Good interaction, and got a nice big smile from his (cute) mom too. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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NFCU on Mt. Pleasant in Chesapeake Wal Mart on Battlefield in Chesapeake Laundry Mat near Courthouse Cafe and Mr. Jims on Johnstown Road in Chesapeake |
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mpg9999 Regular Member
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Bullbuster wrote: June 21st FYI, the second amendment does not give us that right. It guarantees a pre existing right. Same as the first amendment. It does not grant our right to free speach, it protects it. |
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Eeyore Regular Member
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Newport News: OCed (Virginia tuck) in Walmart on Jefferson Ave last night buying ammo (9 mm WWB: $18.49 per 100). No issues. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd for lunch at Applebees near Lynnhaven mall with buddy who spent a chunk-o-change for a new Sig... will be OC'ing as well once wife finds out! Hahaha! |
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denwego Regular Member
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Bad experience at the FedEx Kinkos at 729 1st Colonial Rd # 101, Virginia Beach: I went in to finally laminate my CHP; I've had it for several weeks but haven't bothered to get it done. At the time, I was OCing my 1911 in a Serpa, black parkerized finish in a black holster with a black t-shirt... not all that flashy at that. I couldn't find the laminator immediately, so I went up to the main desk as asked where it was, and a cashier pointed it out. I went over, put my CHP in the pouch, and ran in through the machine, and as I finished that and turned around, there was a manager-looking type walking up. He said in a brusque, rude tone, "You can't have weapons in here." I said, "well, do you mind if I pay for my lamination?" My question obviously passed right over his head, as he repeated in the same rude tone "I'm here to tell you you can't have weapons in here." I said, "Yes, I heard you the first time. Did you hear me, or do I need to repeat myself too?" With that sarcasm also going over his head, he pointed to the registers and said I could pay up there. After I shelled over my buck-fifty, he pointed towards the door and said, "there's the door" in a somehow more derisive tone. I left the receipt on the counter and walked out shaking my head in disgust. So, there you go, the very first time I've had a negative encounter in Virginia or anywhere else in my days of OCing. And a place to add to the do-not-patronize list... from his intonation, there's no way logic would have worked on this thick fellow, so hitting the bottom line is the only effective way I can see. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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denwego wrote: Bad experience at the FedEx Kinkos at 729 1st Colonial Rd # 101, Virginia Beach: Complain on two distinct and separate points: 1) No guns policy. Hammer the point that his willingness to be rude proved he knew you were not dangerous. 2) Rudeness. It makes no sense at all to mistreat someone who might very well leave the gun in the car and remain a customer. You respect their property rights and, having been asked, wouldn't bring in a firearm again. What makes the manager think you wouldn't willingly respect their property rights and remain a customer. Liberty is the compelling state interest. Last edited on Fri Jun 27th, 2008 02:26 am by Citizen |
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AbNo Regular Member
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denwego wrote:I left the receipt on the counter and walked out shaking my head in disgust. I would've just left. Also, if nothing else, I'd call their corporate and complain about his attitude. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd tonight (Thursday) for dinner at Fuddrucker's in Va Beach for the OCDO, along with 14 others (two were non-OC'ing, 1 was due to underage, and the other is looking to get a handgn once she finds one that matches her purse! ) It was a good time and no incidents. |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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denwego wrote: Bad experience at the FedEx Kinkos at 729 1st Colonial Rd # 101, Virginia Beach: Here is the info for Fedex Kinkos Corporate Offices: Phone: (214) 550-7000 Address: FedEx Kinko's Office & Print Services Inc. Three Galleria Tower 13155 Noel Road, Suite 1600 Dallas, TX 75240 Email: customerrelations@fedexkinkos.com |
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denwego Regular Member
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Thanks for the corporate contact info! I've contacted the corporate office dealing with personnel management, as I considered this more the reaction of a poorly-trained and rude manager as opposed to a fixed policy. The person I spoke to was "not in a position to comment on the legality of carrying firearms," but conceded that if OCing is legal in Virginia, then there was no cause for a manager to act in such an insulting and condescending manner, even if it were his prerogative to ask someone to leave. We discussed FedEx's practice of allowing the shipment of firearms checked through their commercial stores, which she agreed implied that possessing them in their stores was probably allowed by their corporate policies. She is going to get back to me sometime this afternoon or tomorrow regarding both issues. I'll post what I hear as I receive it! |
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denwego Regular Member
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A second person at corporate called me back late this afternoon to relay their thoughts and actions. So, the two issues at hand: 1 - FedEx allows guns to be shipped, but requires that they be unloaded and disassembled before brought in for shipping. The extension of this, as stated in their employee manual, is that no functional weapons are allowed. As I see, that puts FedEx/Kinko's stores on a DNP list for me. 2 - The manager is indicative of that location; they've had many complaints over the past several years for both management and retail personnel being rude and unhelpful. The woman at corporate conceded that in a state where handguns can be legally carried (didn't mention OC), there would be no way for a customer to know about a policy if there were no sign or other notification posted, as there wasn't. And because a customer couldn't have known beforehand, the manager should've acted in a professional and courteous manner. I added to that, that if I had been kindly asked to remove my weapon, I probably would've left that location, but would've continued to patronize other Kinko's at other times; but after being treated like a child by an impudent manager, I'd probably never go to one of their stores again, nor my wife and family. That hammered the point home with her, it seems, as she became more apologetic after that. So that's where it is for this round. No more Kinko's for me, but hopefully the rude manager will get what he deserves from corporate. |
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Chkultr Regular Member
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Ha I just got my computer back from HP so I am loading all my info back on and listening to my scanner....Just heard an LEO say "There is a gentleman walking down Atlantic Ave in a blue shirt with a handgun holstered openly displayed and I know it is legal." Have not heard anything else come across so I guess nothing happened. |
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Citizen Founder's Club Member
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Chkultr wrote: Ha I just got my computer back from HP so I am loading all my info back on and listening to my scanner....Just heard an LEO say "There is a gentleman walking down Atlantic Ave in a blue shirt with a handgun holstered openly displayed and I know it is legal." Have not heard anything else come across so I guess nothing happened. I wonder why he bothered to say it into the radio? Did he really use the word gentleman? Last edited on Sat Jun 28th, 2008 05:13 am by Citizen |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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OC'd last night to Smokey Bones in Va Beach (2nd time) no problems at all. The house uniformed LEO was at the front door on my strong side when we walked in. Got a welcome and that was it from him. So again an A+ visit. Afterward OC'd to the Funny Bone Comedy Club in Va Beach. No issues however I did make a little attempt to remain unnoticed as they had allot of big bouncers at the door and inside. Plus I didn't want to walk back to the car. On the way out I made no attempt to keep my arm over it. No one said a thing. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd at Great Bridge Taylors Do It Center and Farm Fresh. Bainbridge Ave 7-11. No issues. |
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Citizen wrote: Chkultr wrote:Ha I just got my computer back from HP so I am loading all my info back on and listening to my scanner....Just heard an LEO say "There is a gentleman walking down Atlantic Ave in a blue shirt with a handgun holstered openly displayed and I know it is legal." Have not heard anything else come across so I guess nothing happened. That was me in the blue shirt friday night. I had my m&p9 with me that night. I was about to post about this, but you beat me to it. I parked at the city garage at 9th street and walked to the end of the paved boardwalk around 42nd street and then back to 9th street.Around 19th street, One officer (not in the VBPD uniform but the brownish uniform) followed me at a 45 degree angle (about 4 o'clock) to my right and stayed about 20 feet behind me for half a block. I could see him out of the corner of my eye using the radio on his shirt. I suppose since there are 40+ police down there on the weekends to patrol the area, using the radio to communicate about people they see is common. I got a bottled water form dairy queen with no problems. I ran in to one of my friends down there and he did a doubble take and said "looks like your packing heat tonight" At a red light waiting to cross the street, one guy that looked like he was in the navy asked if i was a cop, or if i had a license for my weapon. i told him you can legally open carry in VA and there is no license needed. Around 1AM there were some heated words between 3 younger teenagers who were about to fight right on atlantic ave. One got off his bike... er, um... bicycle and therw down his skateboard which he was carrying, took off his shirt to reveal a childish body build and said "lets go, ill take you both on" which resulted in laughter by the few people who were watching. just then the cops rolled up and broke up the arguement. They questioned the teenagers and let them go. One of the officers noticed my weapon and gave me a smile and a nod and went on his way. There were no problems, cops seemed to notice but knew the law. Last edited on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 06:11 pm by N8 |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd Friday for lunch at Buffalo Wild Wings on Princess Anne Road, no probs. But my buddy who works on guns for the Navy, his fiancee was with him & we were talking for about 5-7 min, then the subject came up about guns & I said I carry mine all time & then she looked down at my hip & !!!! Oh... I forgot to mention that she is from New Jersey!!! We talked a while about it & she relaxed, her brother is a NJ LEO & is used to being around guns, but she is not used to seeing people OC'in. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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OC's Sat Jun 28th Kids Karate class. Met a Va Beach LEO LT who works the animal control side of the house. I asked her how she felt about OCing. She said she was fine with folks OCing as long as they aren't being stupid who cares. Sun Jun 29th OC to the VA Beach Convention Center for a Lincoln Military Housing Family event from 4-8pm. Some 3-4 hundred people there. Lots of kids. I was walking around or standing in a line nearly the whole time. No one said a single thing not even event security or the couple LEO's. |
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Don't forget Pop's Drive In (Rt 17, Grafton) |
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Thundar Regular Member
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da7f2q8 wrote: Don't forget Pop's Drive In (Rt 17, Grafton) Is that a restauraunt or a drive in movie theater? |
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da7f2q8 Regular Member
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Pop's is a restaurant, as well as a local landmark. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd at Ruby Tuesday's and Starbucks on Cedar Road in Chesapeake yesterday. No problems. |
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paramedic70002 Regular Member 
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OC at Food Lion in Franklin. Got a vibe behind me in line, but nobody cared. |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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OC'd at Rick's Cafe on VB Blvd near First Colonial. No problems at all. Got a couple of from a couple of my fellow squids in the next booth. The also took note of the VCDL bumper sticker placed top center of my tailgate. Possible future OCers maybe? |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OC'd yesterday at Northern Tools and Big Lots on Mercury Blvd. in Hampton |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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OC'd 4 July to Mt. Trashmore for the fireworks show. Expected some questioning from the LEOs but not one gave a second look not even the cadets. Ran into an old coworker from 2 years back. Asked if I got out of the Navy and became a LEO. Also had 1 guy ask me what VCDL on my shirt was. He thought it was part of SAS or one of the other cowboy action shooter clubs. I refereed him to the VCDL site and here as well. One real positive event was a car pulled up next to our parking spot. The driver and passenger got out with open beers in hand. They saw me and my gun and instantly dumped them out on the ground. I guess they must have thought I was a LEO. My wife walked over to a nearby LEO on a Mt. Bike and told him. He came and took care of them. If there is one think I hate its drinking and driving. Last edited on Mon Jul 7th, 2008 02:48 am by Bullbuster |
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vt357 Regular Member
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OC'ed at the Petsmart by Patrick Henry Mall in NN. No problems. |
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denwego Regular Member
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Unicorn sighting! As I was driving out from my neighborhood towards Lynnhaven Parkway, I saw a young black man walking on the sidewalk with either a full-size Glock or one of the Sig "Glocks," carried in his front pocket with his long shirt tucked behind it, grip-forward in a sort of cross draw position. I won't go into the discussion of carrying a gun in your pants without a holster, especially one with only a trigger safety like a Glock, but it's good to see other folks in our immediate neighborhood OCing. |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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denwego wrote: Unicorn sighting! OK, when you see someone carrying a firearm w/o a holster anywhere near Lynnhaven Pkwy, that's what we call a ...... say it with me boys and girls ....... G-A-N-G-B-A-N-G-E-R. Last edited on Mon Jul 7th, 2008 01:30 am by vbnative73 |
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denwego Regular Member
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Yeah, trust me, this wasn't the sort of guy I'd want to run into in an ally at night. But at the same time, someone OCing strikes me as someone with less to hide than someone CCing without a permit... he could've easily gotten away with it with such a long shirt, but didn't. Might just be me, but it's a touch more reassuring than the other way. |
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bayboy42 Regular Member
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vbnative73 wrote: denwego wrote:Kind of hypocritical don't you think?Unicorn sighting! |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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bayboy42 wrote: vbnative73 wrote:denwego wrote:Kind of hypocritical don't you think?Unicorn sighting! I don't think so. Might be profiling, but not hypocritical. I didn't say he didn't have the right to OC. THAT would have been hypocritical. He has that right. But, living in the Salem area myself, I see this everyday and am aware of my surroundings. I wouldn't confront such as person because they are OCing, but it does set my "spidey sense" to tingling. One factor doesn't do it, but all the details given in the original post put together does. Anybody remember the incident that started Green Run being called Gang Run? I do. It was a shooting at the opening game of the Green Run football season. The guy who was convicted in the killing was named Bernie. Bernie and I were, by far, the 2 youngest employees at Red Wing Golf Course and were almost always paired together to work. I saw everyday how a gangbanger lives his life and operates. I absolutely do not confront anyone like the individual described in the original post, but I am aware of their presence. |
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bayboy42 Regular Member
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vbnative73 wrote: bayboy42 wrote:So a combination of:vbnative73 wrote:denwego wrote:Kind of hypocritical don't you think?Unicorn sighting! 1. Location - VA Beach...Near Lynhaven Parkway 2. Age/Race - Young, Black, Male 3. Carry Method - front pocket with his long shirt tucked behind it, grip-forward in a sort of cross draw position. Is what sets off your spidey sense? Yikes. |
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Tralpat Regular Member
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Yesterday was my first time OC'ing. I took my 7 year old son for a walk to Farm Fresh in Hampton. The whole time he kept suggesting that someone would see my firearm and call 911. I kept explaining that it was OK for me to have and carry a weapon, but could tell that he wasn't comfortable. After a few minutes of conversation I asked him if he would be more comfortable if I pulled my shirt over it. He said yes, and I did. Today, we walked to Dairy Queen and he didn't seem to have a problem with it. Other than that, both trips were uneventful. |
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denwego Regular Member
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I had a positive encounter at my apartment's office today. I found a note on my door on Friday, saying that they've been having problems with people walking their dogs around the building and not cleaning up, so they were letting all the dog owners know they were "increasing surveillance" to find out who the offenders were; if they couldn't find out, then all owners were being fined. Not wanting to be penalized for the stupidity of others, I went in to let them know I wouldn't stand for any sorts of baseless fines. However, it never got that far at all. As soon as I had mentioned the note on my door, the manager said, "Oh, don't worry at all. We have to put that up to justify property inspections once we find out who they are. We know you two (my wife and I), and we see you walking around with your poop bag and your gun. We know you're good people." So, apparently, OCing a poop bag and a gun are a perfect combination to convince people you're alright... maybe we should all be carrying bags to help convert the antis |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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Sunday, July 6 1130 @ Mary's in VA Beach on 17th St Oceanfront for Breakfast Monday, July 7 2130 @ Great Bridge Farm Fresh (I said hello to the the assitant manager that told me I wasn't welcomed back into that farm fresh with my firearm) |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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bayboy42 wrote: vbnative73 wrote:bayboy42 wrote:So a combination of:vbnative73 wrote:denwego wrote:Kind of hypocritical don't you think?Unicorn sighting! You forgot the part about no holster. Holster doesn't go BANG BANG so most gangbangers wont spend the money or bother to steal one. Like I said, I'm not against anyone open carrying but I do maintain awareness of my surroundings, including who is walking nearby and what neighborhood I'm in. "There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life, than to walk down the street and hear footsteps . . . then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved." -Jesse Jackson(1993) He's not prejudiced against african americans and neither am I. |
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bayboy42 wrote: vbnative73 wrote:bayboy42 wrote:So a combination of:vbnative73 wrote:denwego wrote:Kind of hypocritical don't you think?Unicorn sighting! You're saying you see "gangbangers" in SALEM everyday? I hope not, I live here, and have NEVER seen a gangbanger. Perhaps 1 or 2 wannabees, but no gangbangers. |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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Yeah. And yes, a lot of them are wannabes but many are not. That and hardly a night goes by where I don't hear a gun shot from my neighborhood or from Rock Creek down the street. Of course, my street pretty much cuts through a good portion of the neighborhood, so there's a lot of traffic, vehicle and foot. Edit: By the way, this MAY be getting to be too long of a discussion for this thread. If anyone would like to discuss it further, please feel free to PM me. Last edited on Tue Jul 8th, 2008 08:12 pm by vbnative73 |
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Carpetbagger Activist Member
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denwego wrote: So, apparently, OCing a poop bag and a gun are a perfect combination to convince people you're alright... I guess you are doubly prepared for when the SHTF! |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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OC'd in Outback Steakhouse on Portsmouth Blvd last night with no problems. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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Texas Road House in Chesapeake Tuesday, July 8th @ 730pm Wal-Mart in Chesapeake Tuesday, July 8th @ 830pm Home Depot in Chesapeake Tuesday, July 8th @ 850pm Last edited on Thu Jul 10th, 2008 03:49 pm by C45P312 |
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Tralpat Regular Member
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OC'd to various places this past week. All in Hampton. These include Dairy Queen Farm Fresh BJ's Red Lobster The only people that noticed were my kids and my nephew. All were curious to know if it was OK for me to carry my gun where everyone could see. |
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da7f2q8 Regular Member
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C45P312 wrote: Monday, July 7 2130 @ Great Bridge Farm Fresh (I said hello to the the assitant manager that told me I wasn't welcomed back into that farm fresh with my firearm) Send a note to Ron Dennis, F/F President See the new thread "oc in farm fresh" Last edited on Mon Jul 21st, 2008 05:00 am by da7f2q8 |
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Tralpat Regular Member
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Does anyone have an example letter that has been written to a company concerning their firearms policies? I don't need one now but was curious as to what different people's have looked like. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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OC'd today to Super K-Mart and then Wal-Mart on Tidewater and Little Creek. No problems. Did run into another OC'r on the way out of Wal-Mart. |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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Oc'd yesterday at Hooter's Waterside. No problems. I did notice however, that the "No Firearms" line on the park rules sign had been painted over! |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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Monday night in Dirty Dick's @ Oceanfront around 730pm |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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I submitted this via Bank of America's online form and have put it in my outgoing snail mail for tomorrow. To Whom It May Concern: At approximately 3:15pm on July 15, 2008, I entered the Bank of America branch located at 2061 Lynnhaven Pkwy, Virginia Beach, VA 23456. I was legally carrying a holstered firearm which was not concealed. As I approached the customer service counter, the Banking Center Manager, Mr. Frank Manley approached me from behind and asked if I was a Law Enforcement Officer. I replied that I was not. He told me that I would have to remove my sidearm from the building, whether I had a permit or not. I informed him that it is legal to openly carry a firearm in the Commonwealth of Virginia and that no permit is required to do so. I also told Mr. Manley that I was making a large cash withdrawal and that I especially would not like to be without my firearm. He apologized and insisted that I remove my firearm from the building. I complied and returned within a minute without my firearm and completed my transaction. Before exiting, I asked for and received a business card from Mr. Manley. In the Commonwealth of Virginia, it is legal for anyone over 18 to openly carry a firearm. By stating that I needed to remove my firearm from the building whether I had a permit or not, Mr. Manley demonstrated his lack of understanding of firearms laws in Virginia. This led me to question his understanding of Bank of America's policy regarding customers lawfully carrying firearms in their facilities. I would appreciate a reply confirming Bank of America's policy regarding customers lawfully carrying firearms in their facilities. If Bank of America values their customers and does not prohibit them to legally exercise their rights, I would appreciate it if someone would train Bank of America employees at every level as to what the legal rights of customers are. If however, it is Bank of America's policy to deny its customers their right to lawfully open carry a firearm, I would appreciate a written response to that effect so that I may begin to make preparations to shift my banking to another institution which values its customers and their rights under law. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, J----- -. K------ Virginia Beach, VA Member Virginia Citizens Defense League Attached Image (viewed 480 times): Last edited on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 09:31 pm by vbnative73 |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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I have a BofA account and am really interested to see what they have to say. As is I'm getting ready to make a trip to Navy Federal in a couple minutes and close my account with them due to rude, nasty and disrespectful customer service reps. Not to mention their complete lack of accounting capabilities. |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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I hear ya. That's why I left NFCU and went to B of A. Between banks that can't count and banks that don't allow OC, I guess my only option is to stuff it all under the mattress and keep the Mossberg next to the bed. Edited for spellcheck. Last edited on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 10:17 pm by vbnative73 |
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DHCruiser Activist Member
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I thought I'd share a quick OC note since I was down in your part of the state. I took the family down to Busch Gardens for a few days and we stayed at the Kingsmill Resort on the same property. I openly OC'd the entire drive down, when we arrived, while checking in, when we were at the hotel and the entire drive home. The greeter at the resort and the front desk personnel all saw I was OCing and didn't blink an eye. I disarmed when going into the Busch Gardens park because I know they have a no firearms policy. I'll gladly give them my business in the future, which makes my kids very happy since they had a blast. Last edited on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 11:51 pm by DHCruiser |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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Bullbuster wrote: I have a BofA account and am really interested to see what they have to say. As is I'm getting ready to make a trip to Navy Federal in a couple minutes and close my account with them due to rude, nasty and disrespectful customer service reps. Not to mention their complete lack of accounting capabilities. Here's the first response. I'll keep any further updates posted here. Dear J----- K------, Thank you for your inquiry dated 7/15/08 regarding carrying a firearm. Your concerns are very important to us and we will be happy to assist you. In order to address your concern regarding carrying a firearm within a banking center, we have escalated your request to our Client Escalation Unit Online team and we will respond to you within three business days. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience you have encountered while visiting the banking center. Please know that we value you as a customer and appreciate your business. If we may be of further assistance, please contact us again by e-mail. Thank you for choosing Bank of America. Sincerely, Lisa Vallejo Bank of America Last edited on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 03:16 am by vbnative73 |
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denwego Regular Member
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I have a B of A account as well. Considering it's redundant now that I use USAA, I'll happily close down BoA completely if they start up an anti-OC policy. They can lose a few grand if they think crime doesn't happen in banks... that's pretty ridiculous. Incidentally, nothing to report about my OCing in the VA Beach area of late. Walking the dog every day around the neighborhood, going to the grocery stores, Target shopping, or getting the daily coffee... not so much as a second glance. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd at Buffalo Wild Wings on Princess Anne tonight for dinner with a couple of buddies. Spent an hour just trying to get in (buddy just got back into town and that is where he wanted to go), another 50min till we got our food, which was decent. The only good thing about that place was the amount of "eye candy" going in and out of that place! |
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Readin the consumerist, and working with BoA at my job, they don't tend to customer concerns usually... in fact, it's usually an F-U when it comes to their policies. |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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OC'd at Outback Steakhouse on Portsmouth Blvd after getting married to my lovely new wife! No problems! |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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My best wishes to you and Jadranka ! Hope to see you at a dinner soon. Dutch. |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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Thanks Dutch! |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd at Uno's Bar and Grill at Lynnhaven Mall last night for dinner with some buddies, sat in bar area, they drank, I had sweet tea, no problems! |
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OCed today for the first time in a while. The girl friend and I went to Bob's in Norfolk and shot, had lunch at Hooters in Waterside and stoped at Wally World on Fredrick Blvd in P-Town. Did all that w/o incident. There was one table I walked by at Hooters that went silent when they notice a big dude with a gun on his hip walking by! LOL I have had my CHP for years and offten CC. I have only OCed a few times before... I have never felt overly comfortable doing it. I had no idea there were as many folks in the Hampton Roads area the OCed until I got on OCDO. |
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denwego Regular Member
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Time to do the weekly summary again... I've been OCing this week at: Starbucks near Lynnhaven Mall Food Lion on Holland Rd. Target on First Colonial Rd. AT&T Store on "" Petsmart and Best Buy on Princess Anne Rd. A few stares here and there, including a from someone driving a car with Maryland plates, but not a word beyond that. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd for dinner at a Sushi place in Strawbridge Shopping Center in So. Va. Beach area. All was good! |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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OC'd today at the Red Robin on Portsmouth Blvd. No problems. |
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Fawkes Regular Member
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Had my first OC experience today and it was definitely a weird, but humbling experience. I took my new CZ to the range up at A&P on lynnhaven pkwy followed by a quick lunch at Moe's Southwestern Bar & Grill. No looks, no funny expressions by anyone the entire time. I do have one bad report, however; it seems my mother's house should be added to list of places you can't OC. I haven't heard a tirade like that since I was caught playing with matches as a child. Sheesh. All-in-all, it was a wonderful experience! |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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Fawkes wrote: it seems my mother's house should be added to list of places you can't OC. I haven't heard a tirade like that since I was caught playing with matches as a child. Sheesh. My in-laws and my mom are the same way. And my in-laws are 78 and set in their ways. Usually, we're not at their house for any length of time, so I just flip my t-shirt over my holster and CC for a few min. My dad CCs sometimes but doesn't understand my OCing. He just shakes his head or rolls his eyes. Yeah, carrying around family can be weird. |
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My son and I OC'd in Bass Pro Shops in Hampton (Power Plant) in the hunting department, as he shopped for a holster for his new Glock 23, and I priced 357 mag ammo. The clerk told my son he couldn't unholster his Glock in the store when he asked if he could try on his holster selection, but that doing so in the parking lot would be fine. |
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Tralpat Regular Member
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da7f2q8 wrote: My son and I OC'd in Bass Pro Shops in Hampton (Power Plant) in the hunting department, as he shopped for a holster for his new Glock 23, and I priced 357 mag ammo. I had a similar thing happen to me. I was looking for a holster for my XD. Instead of having me go to the parking lot, the clerk had me bring the holsters I was looking at over to the counter. He then pulled the XD out of the case so that I could try it out. |
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vt357 Regular Member
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I OC'ed a few places this weekend. Saturday afternoon outside of the McDonalds on 17 in Yorktown. My wife went in to get us some food while I stayed outside to let my dog stretch his legs. A family from Maryland even pulled up while I was standing there. But any fears of my OCing were probably alleviated by the miniature poodle on the end of the leash. Then Sunday afternoon at Olive Garden on Mercury in Hampton - great food as usual. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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Friday the 19th CBBT fishing pier. Had 1 guy come up to my buddy who was also OCing and ask him if he could come have a few words with a couple guys who refused to stop cussing around his kids. We said we are not LEO's. The guy had a puzzled look on his face and said OK and walked away. No other problems. Sunday the 20th OC'd with the family to the Mariners Museum in Newport News for a Military function. Only came from some of the other military families. My wife did point out 1 armed security guard did seem to be in allot of the areas we happen to be in. I didn't even notice as I was too into all the artifacts. |
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Eeyore Regular Member
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Saturday evening around dusk, strolled around downtown Hampton (Queen St, Settlers Landing, Wine St) to give my spicy dinner time to settle. NSTR. Not sure anyone even noticed. |
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echo6tango Regular Member
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I was in the area this past weekend helping family move furniture into their new home in Chesapeake near Greenbrier. OC'd Saturday and Sunday all over Norfolk, Va Beach, and Chesapeake in various stores, in a couple of neighborhoods. No noticeable stares or calls for alarm. Went swimming at Sandbridge (without the XD...it doesn't really appreciate the salt water) and visited a water park with the family. Man, I really love Virginia . Can't wait for the house hunting to begin! Then on the trip home Sunday evening, just before the Maryland border, I disarmed, unloaded, and locked everything up . |
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mp3mogul Regular Member
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vbnative73 wrote: Yeah. And yes, a lot of them are wannabes but many are not. That and hardly a night goes by where I don't hear a gun shot from my neighborhood or from Rock Creek down the street. Can you tell me just where "Rock Creek" is in Salem Virginia? I noticed that your profile says you live at the beach. Have you confused the beach with Salem Virginia in the Blue Ridge Mountains? There are no gang members in Salem, Virginia. |
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Chkultr Regular Member
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Rock Creek is off of Salem road close to South Independence. The main drag is Rock Creek Loop. All in Virginia Beach. Last edited on Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 01:07 pm by Chkultr |
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mp3mogul wrote: vbnative73 wrote:Yeah. And yes, a lot of them are wannabes but many are not. That and hardly a night goes by where I don't hear a gun shot from my neighborhood or from Rock Creek down the street. There is an area in Virginia Beach called Salem. You both may be thinking that the other party is in "your" Salem. --RedKnightt-- Zombie Squad has it right: “We hold fast to the belief that if you are prepared for a scenario where the walking corpses of your family and neighbors are trying to eat you alive, you will be prepared for almost anything.” |
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mp3mogul Regular Member
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Good, that must be it, because this is a Mayberry RFD town!!! |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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Back on topic: OC'd @ Texas Road House in Chesapeake last night around 9pm |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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Not really an OC experience... ...for I was CC'n doing some shopping tonight at the local Foodlion and the checkout girl said "Oh, you are carrying! (With a... 'thats a good thing' tone)" and I said "Yup" and then she went into a story about a friend and the bagger piped up and we all had a pleasant little conversation. I informed them a little about Open Carry rules and then I went out to load the groceries. Took the cart back in and the bagger was leaving for the night, so we chatted some more. He is looking at doing the military police thing and I gave him my copy of the "Virginia Gun Rights" Open Carry brochure. A good night! |
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Tralpat Regular Member
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DocDaddy wrote: Not really an OC experience... Glad you had a good conversation and were able to educate some people. The only question I have is, if you were CC'ing how did the girl know that you were carrying? It kind of defeats the purpose of concealing. I am sure that my weapon "prints" sometimes while CC'ing but I really try not to wear clothes that will allow that to happen. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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Tralpat wrote: DocDaddy wrote:Not really an OC experience... Ya, it was "printing" since I had a t-shirt on that has been through the wash several dozen times, and I also leaned a little to my left to retrieve my wallet out of my left cargo pocket, and truthfully... I am not really all that concerned about who notices at 9:30pm in that particular Food Lion (Shipps Corner). So... "now you know the rest of the story... Good Day!" |
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Tralpat Regular Member
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DocDaddy wrote: Tralpat wrote:DocDaddy wrote:Not really an OC experience... That is exactly what I thought had happened. I was just curious is all, because I CC 95% of the time. I am sure I have been in that situation but no one has said anything to me. |
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ECB Regular Member
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OC'd at Bond's Cigar Shop in Suffolk during today's 'cigar event'. Two plains clothes LEOs there too. Not a word or a stare by anyone except the owner who said he is Second Amendment friendly. |
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Tralpat Regular Member
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So, I didn't plan on OC'ing yesturday but when we decided on Ruby Tuesday in Hampton, I didn't have a choice. Not very exciting but when the host saw my weapon, he took a step back and was a little more cautious in his movements. Not a word was said, though. Other than that, nothing unusual. |
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Tralpat wrote: So, I didn't plan on OC'ing yesturday but when we decided on Ruby Tuesday in Hampton, I didn't have a choice. Not very exciting but when the host saw my weapon, he took a step back and was a little more cautious in his movements. Not a word was said, though. Other than that, nothing unusual. You know when carrying a gun you should cut your steak with a knife and fork instead of grabbing it in your hand and ripping off a chunk with your teeth. Then the waitstaff probably wouldn't take a step back when they see you :^).... Last edited on Fri Jul 25th, 2008 02:21 am by Neplusultra |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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Catching up on my Open carry logs. All around Yorktown, at the concert at the riverfront lots of LEO's there not a word. Riverwalk restaurant (Nicks Seafood Pavilion reborn) all over the Yacht parking space... (I did have a bit of an incident at 3:00am or so a group of 10 (approximate) teenagers tried to steal a fishing pole from the boat... When I popped out of the hatch they actually gave ME the stink eye... sheeesh. Anyway I ran them all of the dock... Told the dock master the next day who told the sheriffs who asked him why didn't I call 911 I told the dock master I don't call 9-1-1. Poquoson, Farm Fresh, Anna's, Food lion, Hong Kong (Saw a green jeep outside with it's top off and a VCDL Guns save lives Bumper sticker...waited a bit but never saw the owner to hobnob with) Newport News, Buffet City, Food lion, Patrick Henry Mall the mall ninjas are not very observant....walked right by a grouping of 3 of them. Makes me feel safer with their eagle eyes on everyone.All around Downtown Hampton, at the public piers and the restaurants of the hotel, in the Dockmaster's office (with 2 Hampton cops there... they never said a word... of course it may help that they know me since me the admiral and yacht are there allot) Live Free Freeflight edit correct some stupid mistakes... Last edited on Tue Aug 5th, 2008 07:23 pm by Freeflight |
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OC'd at El Burrito Loco in Suffolk. No problems. |
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Chkultr Regular Member
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OC'n @ Lynnhaven Dive Center. Waiting for our instructor to show for our last class. A guy asks do I have a ccw..... Me-yes, but i am oc'n so no permit needed for oc Him-you can't do that Me-COMMONWEALTH OF VA says i can Him-well in a town of 100k or more you can't oc Me-Yes I can in hte COMMONWEALTH OF VA Him-well they must have just changed it Me- I don't think so Him-Well you are going to have problems with the cops Me- You LEO Him-Blank Stare.....Uh Yea Me-I have never had a negative experience with LEO Him-Well you will get in trouble with having the hammer back. Mine you can't see so they don't know it is loaded Me-Never had a negative experience with LEO Him-Well my ccw instructor said.......... BAM! right then I knew I had him! What LEO goes through a CCW course to get a CCW? The blank stare hinted to the fact he didn't know what LEO sttod for. I handed him the card that you can cut out of the VCDL Denfender and told him he might benefit from doing some research. He smiled and immed put it into his wallett. After all said and done we went upstairs to the classroom and the military dad that is in our class called him out! "Did you see the blank stare and pause he gave you when you asked if he was LEO?" So this is my 1st negative experience with anybody. Imagine a gun owner with a NEW CCW tells you "You can't do that" |
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Fawkes Regular Member
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In VB: OC'd a several times at Jr. Market in Shadowlawn without issue. BK at Hilltop. OC'd into Extreme Outfitters on Shore Drive when trying to find a holster for my CZ P-01. One of the guys helping simply asked if they could clear it while I tried to find a suitable holster. When he tried, I learned it wasn't just my computer hands that had an issue with racking the slide, even my buddy had an issue with it, and I tried his .44 DE... that thing was a breeze to move (albeit way too big for my hand). I'm happy to say after working with the CZ over the last 4 weeks I no longer have an issue regarding my firearm in any way and have enjoyed it immensely. Also, needless to say, they really didn't any issue at Extreme Outfitters, and were completely professional & very helpful. They didn't have much for my pistol in the way of a holster, but I bought a good starter for the time being & just ordered a safariland L2 6280 online for general carry. So far, the experience has been absolutely amazing. |
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Chkultr wrote: OC'n @ Lynnhaven Dive Center. Waiting for our instructor to show for our last class. A guy asks do I have a ccw..... I have never had a problem OCing at LDC much less someone trying to pull that BS. I'm in there atleast once a week. Don't always carry depending on where I have been or am going. |
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Chkultr Regular Member
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I didn't have a problem with the staff or my instructor or even my classmates! Just that guy!!!! |
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da7f2q8 Regular Member
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Freeflight wrote: Catching up on my Open carry logs. I gather from your post that you got to the Yorktown riverfront by boat, as one must drive thru the Yorktown National Historical Park to get there by land. Are you sure that the waterfront area isn't part of the park? Last edited on Sun Aug 10th, 2008 06:35 pm by da7f2q8 |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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da7f2q8 wrote: Freeflight wrote:Catching up on my Open carry logs. I did arrive by sea. It is not part of the park. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd in the last week: Arbys on Mercury Blvd in Newport News Home Depot on Hillwell Rd in Chesapeake Advance Auto on South Battlefield in Chesapeake Bloom on South Battlefield in Chesapeake Citgo on Aberdeen Rd in Newport News No problems or issues any place. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd tonight for dinner at the newly built Plaza Aztecas on Holland Road. The two guys running the door joked a little, the one said the other guy was the bad one, then I caught on to what they were talking about. Then sittting near the corridor to the bathroom strong side out, a girl of about 12 came out of the bathroom and was walking towards where I was sitting and came to a halt for about a half-second, then continued walking. But no problems, all was pretty quiet, and good food. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd for lunch today at Applebee's on Lynnhaven Blvd across from mall. No issues, kind of quiet actually for lunch time on a Sat. |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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OC'ing right now at Jason's deli in greenbriar |
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Eeyore Regular Member
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Well, there's a first time for everything: I was asked to leave Abbey Road restaurant in Va Beach on Thursday night. The manager quietly, calmly, and politely told me it was their policy that only LEOs were allowed to carry in their restaurant. For this reason and a variety of others, I went and stowed my gun without any argument. I didn't bother to play the "I'm going to take my business elsewhere and tell all my OCDO friends to do the same" card since I figured it wouldn't make any impression given the volume of their tourist business. But I'm telling everybody now: take your business elsewhere.  I normally CC, but I decided to OC for the few blocks back to the car. A VB cop on the smallest police motorcycle I've ever seen (250 or even smaller) appeared to shadow me for about a block, but then he turned and drove down a side street. When I got back, my wife told me a couple eating on the patio did a when I walked by them on the way out.On the other hand, I OCed in Ammos greek restaurant Friday and Luna Sea (right across the street from Abbey Road) Saturday with no problems at all. I also inadvertently OCed for about 5-10 minutes (wardrobe malfunction  ) in the Maple Tree pancake house this morning. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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Friday Aug 15 OC'd to C2 gun range in Pungo (first time there in a year) was excitedly greeted by the range house boss about how I didn't have the slide locked back on my .40. I was asked to leave till I could correct myself. Then OC to Dick's Sporting goods on Independence followed by Bass Pro Shops. No problems at all. I did get quick prompt service at Dick's. Aug 16 OC'd to Bobs followed by lunch at a Mexican place on Granby that looked to be in an old McDonald's. No problems great food. Aug 17 OC'd to a Norfolk Florist on Battlefield Blvd then to Chesapeake Regional Hospital to visit my Aunt. No problem but did get a few from the patient in the next bed. Then to Joes Crab Shack on Greenbriar. No problems other than a cold beer would have gone good with the crab legs. |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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Bullbuster wrote: OC'd to a Norfolk Florist on Battlefield Blvd then to Chesapeake Regional Hospital to visit my Aunt. My totally psyco ex-girlfriend, Jenny Hale is a nurse there. If you saw her, you wouldn't forget her. She's a super duper uber-babe but has a ton of "issues". |
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Thundar Regular Member
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Eeyore wrote: Well, there's a first time for everything: I was asked to leave Abbey Road restaurant in Va Beach on Thursday night. The manager quietly, calmly, and politely told me it was their policy that only LEOs were allowed to carry in their restaurant. For this reason and a variety of others, I went and stowed my gun without any argument. I didn't bother to play the "I'm going to take my business elsewhere and tell all my OCDO friends to do the same" card since I figured it wouldn't make any impression given the volume of their tourist business. But I'm telling everybody now: take your business elsewhere. Abbey Road is living high on the hog during the summer tourist season, but will be hurting like all the other restaurants in the fall/winter. Maybe that is when we can book an OCDO dinner there. Change your dimwitted policy Abby Road, or lose your biggest customer for the week. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd this past week: Home Depot, South Battlefield in Chesapeake Dairy Queen, Great Bridge, Chesapeake Walgreens, Great Bridge, Chesapeake No problems or issues |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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Bloom, Great Bridge, Chesapeake (Again) Pizza Hut Carry Out, Great Bridge, Chesapeake |
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Oc'd at starr motors 4x4 show sat in suffolk,Ihop,walmart,lowes,and food lion in suffolk on tue.No problems or at any of the places. |
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sccrref Regular Member 
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OC at Golden Coral on Nemo Pkwy in VA Bch. No problems or issues other that I ate to much. |
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da7f2q8 Regular Member
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I have been routinely OCing during the warm weather, and today is no exception. I carry my revolver in a cross-draw position slightly to the front, so it's visible as I approach. I went to my usual barber shop for a haircut. It's a very small shop (maybe 15' wide by 25' deep), with 3 barber chairs. The same person always cuts my hair. The State Trooper who had just walked in ahead of me is also one of her regular customers. He was seated in front of her chair waiting for her to return from lunch when I walked in. He looked up as I approached, and I said "How's it going" as I took a seat next to him, and he replied "Fine". I asked him if he was waiting for Staci, and told him that she had just pulled into the parking lot. He replied that he had seen her heading for the shop, so he turned his car around and drove back. I asked him if he was the trooper who cited the Newport News Assistant police chief for DUI. He said no, that wasn't his patrol area, but that it wouldn't have made any difference to him. Drunk is drunk, no matter who you are. When Staci came in, she waited on him first, and the three of us chatted about kids and grandchildren. Staci has just become a grandmother, so she shared pictures of her ganddaughter with us, and gave us the latest news. Both Staci and the trooper's sons have just joined the military (for Staci, a 2nd son to the Army, the trooper's to the Marines), so the conversation turned to those two for a few minutes. The trooper indicated that he was on his way home to begin a 9 day vacation and go where his whim took him. All in all, a pleasant experience. Last edited on Thu Aug 21st, 2008 09:12 pm by da7f2q8 |
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sccrref Regular Member
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OC coming out of #1 Chinese buffet by Wally world on Nemo Pkwy in VA Bch when this an older lady in the parking lot was heard to loudly say to her companions, "That man is wearing a gun and he is not even trying to hide it." I passed up the opportunity to educate the lady and her son/son in law and daughter/daughter in law and a grandchild. Figured it would do more harm than good in this circumstance. No problem at the buffet as usual as I eat in there quite a bit. |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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da7f2q8 wrote: I have been routinely OCing during the warm weather, and today is no exception. I carry my revolver in a cross-draw position slightly to the front, so it's visible as I approach. As I have experience with bad Troopers and good, it's always good to hear of those that determine to be good. Yes sir. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd this past week: In front of Oscar Smith H.S. (Obama Rally) Chesapeake 7-11 Corner og Great Bridge Blvd and Battlefield Blvd. Chesapeake Home Depot, South Battlefield, Chesapeake The Grill, Battlefield Blvd. Chesapeake - Great Breakfast!! Zoots Cleaners, Chesapeake No problems anywhere. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd for dinner tonight at the Va Beach Hooters on General Booth, no problems! |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd at Tidewater Community College (TCC), Chesapeake Campus to pay my son's tuition yesterday. No issues inside, but some . When leaving a security guard approached me and said that guns were not allowed at TCC. I told him open carry of firearms was legal in Virginia. He said it was prohibited by the college and was printed in the student handbook. I told him I was not a student, but a parent there to pay my sons tuition. He said that if they had noticed my gun inside they might have started the alert system, which would have scared the students and staff and shut down the campus. |
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Thundar wrote: OCd at Tidewater Community College (TCC), Chesapeake Campus to pay my son's tuition yesterday. No issues inside, but someThe next "Man with a gun spotted on campus day" on the news. All the campus can do is tell you to leave unless you are brandishing, which of course you would be going to jail for a long, long time for that, but what you did was perfectly legal. I would really want to know what would happen if the police were called. You could not have faced any charges legally because you were not brandishing in any way and were well within the law. The most they could do would ask you to leave campus corret? |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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CRF250rider1000 wrote: Thundar wrote:OCd at Tidewater Community College (TCC), Chesapeake Campus to pay my son's tuition yesterday. No issues inside, but someThe next "Man with a gun spotted on campus day" on the news. They can't even ask you to leave. It's a public funded school. Same thing with me when I was at the VA Tech library. It's no different than being at the public library. Just remember to smile and be friendly. One reason to OC is to desensitize people to the sight of guns. Good diplomacy is important. Of course they could arrest you for not leaving, but that would be a Danbus or Chet event :^). |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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Thundar wrote: OCd at Tidewater Community College (TCC), Chesapeake Campus to pay my son's tuition yesterday. No issues inside, but some I'm taking one class there this semester so I could graduate in December. Too bad I can't carry OC'd at Plaza Azteca on Cedar Road in Chesapeake. No problems, but when I went to go pay for the bill, a couple was talking loud, laughing, etc in the waiting area, and as soon as they saw my strong side, they both were dead silent. Last edited on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 04:51 pm by C45P312 |
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SaltH2OHokie Regular Member
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C45P312 wrote: Thundar wrote:OCd at Tidewater Community College (TCC), Chesapeake Campus to pay my son's tuition yesterday. No issues inside, but some I love that, when people meet your eyes and smile politely and then see your waist band and get all . And by, "I love that," I mean I really wish that didn't ever happen.Just left Suffolk for Blacksburg for year FIVE this past weekend. I didn't open carry much this summer with the exception of a few dining out times. I tend to open carry more here in Blacksburg to get people used to the idea in such a bastion of 'hippiness' that is a college town. Disclaimer: I don't carry at all on campus because that would be wrong. |
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vbnative73 Regular Member
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OC'd up and down the boardwalk during the ECSC on Saturday. More LEO's than you could shake a stick at and not one problem. Maybe I look like much less of a threat when OCing and pushing a twin stroller. Maybe Reverend73 could give me a hand designing a holster mount for the stroller, lol. |
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bbundoc Regular Member
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OC'd at: Farmfresh off S Independence Blvd Target off S Independence Blvd Party City off S Independence Blvd Wawa off Lynnhaven Pkwy Wawa off Chesapeake Blvd Walmart off Lynnhaven Pkwy AT&T Landstown Commons Pancheros Landstown Commons in front of two young LEO's GNC Landstown Commons All with out problems, maybe a glance down, but nothing more than a look. Glad to exercise my right without a hassle. Hopefully, it will stay this way. I am now back up at school (JMU) and will see how it is here in rural Harrisonburg. I do have to watch for how close I am when traveling so that I am not too close to the school. Hopefully we will be able to carry on campus one day. Students for concealed Carry lets go! Last edited on Wed Aug 27th, 2008 01:12 am by bbundoc |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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bbundoc wrote: I am now back up at school (JMU) and will see how it is here in rural Harrisonburg. I was about to ask you why you didn't join us at Primos Pizza tonight for dinner . Then I read the fine print above. Keep an eye on the Tidewater (enter month here) OC Dining Out thread - and please join us when you can. We've been dining out a couple of times each month for over 2 years now, it's a great group even when Danbus joins us . |
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bbundoc Regular Member
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Thanks for the invite. I will defintely do that. Next time that I come home I will keep an eye out. I was always worried about how people would react, but I have not had any problems. |
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Bubba Ron wrote: bbundoc wrote:I am now back up at school (JMU) and will see how it is here in rural Harrisonburg. Ron, Sorry I missed this. I was in Panama and then had to immediately go to California for an exercise. We will definately make the next one! |
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Thundar Regular Member
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Today, I OCd at Farm Fresh on Battlefield Blvd., Chesapeake; Dollar Tree, Battlefield Blvd., Chesapeake; Bank of America, Battlefield Blvd., Chesapeake; Mt. Pleasant Veterinary Clinic, Mt. Pleasant Rd., Chesapeake No problems, as usual. |
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Eeyore Regular Member
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OCed at Plaza Azteca in Newport News (S of Patrick Henry on Jefferson). Non-event. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd at: Northern Tool & Equipment on Mercury Blvd - Very helpful and friendly staff, not at all bothered by OC; Big Lots on Mercury Blvd; Advance Auto on Mercury Blvd; Lowes on Powerplant Parkway; Navy Federal on Centerville Turnpike; FarmFresh on Centerville Turnpike; Fazole's on Greenbrier Parkway. No issues, but a from a clerk in Lowes. |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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Thundar wrote: OCd at: And you didn't stop at the Hickory Grill???? |
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Chkultr Regular Member
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Oc'd at the Rock and Roll Half Marathon. No big deal!!!!! |
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kimbercarrier Activist Member
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OC'd at the Wally World in Tabb today much to the displeasure of one customer. He was in his mid to late 20's with his wife and 2 toddlers. I saw him give me dirty looks a few times as we crossed paths a few times going up and down the ailse's. The last time I passed him I hear him say in a pissed off voice " why don't you hold it in your hand" I turned to see who was saying it and to whom when I see him staring at me with pissed off look on his face. I just smiled at him and continued on. Guess some people just don't like it and get their panties in a bunch. It was otherwise uneventful the 2 times I was in there today even when I purchased ammo. The woman at the counter saw I was carrying but didn't seem to give it a second thought. Thunder which advance did you go to? Last edited on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 03:25 am by kimbercarrier |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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kimbercarrier wrote: The last time I passed him I hear him say in a pissed off voice " why don't you hold it in your hand" I turned to see who was saying it and to whom when I see him staring at me with pissed off look on his face. I just smiled at him and continued on. Guess some people just don't like it and get their panties in a bunch. I wonder if it's better to engage someone with this type of attitude. I've never run into anyone like that myself. But it would seem to me to be best, assuming you're up to it, to engage and dissipate any type of fear they may have. Assuming this is possible. |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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Neplusultra wrote: kimbercarrier wrote:The last time I passed him I hear him say in a pissed off voice " why don't you hold it in your hand" I turned to see who was saying it and to whom when I see him staring at me with pissed off look on his face. I just smiled at him and continued on. Guess some people just don't like it and get their panties in a bunch. The guy was already pissed off, seems to me that kimbercarrier did the right thing in this case. Engaging the guy could have easily been viewed as escalating the occurrence to the wrong folks - smile and let the a$$hole to stew....just like Mark did. |
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kimbercarrier Activist Member
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I would have talked to him but he said it as he passed behind me. When I turned around to see who it was and what they were talking about and to whom they were saying it, he was about 15 feet from me and walking away while looking back at me. It kinda surprised me that he said that. Had he actually approached me or stood where he was I would have. Since he walked off I didn't want to persue him and have him turn it into a confrontation. Thanks Ron. Thats what I decided to do. I would have engaged him if he approched me or there seemed to an opportunity. Last edited on Mon Sep 1st, 2008 01:40 pm by kimbercarrier |
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Fri 29.. O'C ed at my bank in Suffolk Walleyworld on Main St Murphys...no problems |
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Good Morning All: Name's Ken. I'm new to the whole open carry idea, however I've been carrying concealed for quite some time now. Where are the real trouble spots here in the Hampton Roads area for those of you who carry openly here often (other than those already not legal to carry in)? Unfortunately I live in a high volume apartment complex, so I am sure to run into many of those people who really despise firearms, I am sure a few complaints will probably be made to the office. However there are no policies here regarding such issues, so I may try it more often. I have read many of the stories on this forum, some of which are very interesting and informative for that day when I run into the same situation. |
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kimbercarrier Activist Member
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The only place I've been asked to leave is Books A Million at Hampton Town Center. They are posted and I didn't see the sign. We're having an OS dinner at the Plaza Azteca in that same shopping center moday the 8th at 7PM. Join us if you can. |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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kwrose66 wrote: Good Morning All: Name's Ken. I'm new to the whole open carry idea, however I've been carrying concealed for quite some time now. Where are the real trouble spots here in the Hampton Roads area for those of you who carry openly here often (other than those already not legal to carry in)? Welcome to OCDO Ken!! We have been "training" the local police departments in our area for over two years now concerning open carry in Virginia. Most pretty much know it's legal and even the dispatchers are doing well by asking "is the person carrying a gun waving it around or is it holstered?" during 911 calls. Feel free to join us at our Tidewater dining outs, we usually have at least two a month - look for the thread titled: "Tidewater - enter appropriate month - OC dining Out" They can be very informative and the next one is on your side of the water!! |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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kimbercarrier wrote: OC'd at the Wally World in Tabb today much to the displeasure of one customer. He was in his mid to late 20's with his wife and 2 toddlers. I saw him give me dirty looks a few times as we crossed paths a few times going up and down the ailse's. Mark, Sorry to hear about your encounter with the Wally World pruneface. I've OC'd there more times than I can count, with no problems so far. I've even OC'd at their ammo counter with Danbus, which is a sure way to risk seeing public fear, loathing and sphincter control problems, but nothing happened. Maybe the guy was just jealous of your Kimber ! |
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kimbercarrier Activist Member
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Yeah thats probably it Dutch. I carry there regularly and haven't had a problem so far. O f course it was also in a Serpa holster. |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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kimbercarrier wrote: I would have talked to him but he said it as he passed behind me. When I turned around to see who it was and what they were talking about and to whom they were saying it, he was about 15 feet from me and walking away while looking back at me. In this situation it sounds like you did the best thing. Going after him could easily looked bad, even if your intention was just to have a conversation. But then again if you were polite and your demeanor friendly instead of contentious.... I remember long ago when I used to pick up hitchhikers quite often I drove past a guy thumbing along a highway. I decided not to pick him up, he was black but that wasn't the reason. Anyway after I pass him he turns around and flips me off, I saw it in the rear view mirror. So the next opportunity to pull a U turn I did and went back and pulled up to him and very nicely asked if he wanted a ride. He was pretty shook up about this (not knowing if I'd seen him flip me off) but accepted the ride. I drove him down the road to where he wanted to go and dropped him off, having a nice conversation along the way. After he was out of the car and saying good bye I told him he really shouldn't flip people off, one because I don't owe him a ride so he had no reason to be mad at me, and two because not all people are as nice as me :^). I bet he remembers that ride. Last edited on Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 06:29 am by Neplusultra |
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Thundar Regular Member
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kimbercarrier wrote:
The one on Mercury Blvd, I think it is called Todds Center, or something like that. There is a Northern Tool in the same shopping center. |
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OC'd today for lunch with buddy who was OC'in as well at Chilli's on Nimo Parkway in southern Va Beach. No issues. |
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Thundar I was asking because a young guy came in that store the other day carrying a Taurus in a shoulder holster. Was just wondering if that was you? |
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OC'd for dnner tonight with buddy was was OC'in as well, we ate at Plaza Aztecas on Holland Rd. in Va Beach, it was the dinner rush and was pretty packed... so naturally alot of , but that was it. |
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kimbercarrier wrote: OC'd at the Wally World in Tabb today much to the displeasure of one customer. He was in his mid to late 20's with his wife and 2 toddlers. I saw him give me dirty looks a few times as we crossed paths a few times going up and down the ailse's. Because of the '...hold it in your hand...' remark I think I would've checked my zipper first. I do find it amazing that people who are so disturbed by sight of a lawfully carried sidearm (a Sig239 for me; one of those small-frame Kimber .45's costs more than my AR15 did) still have the courage (or stupidity) to make sarcastic/insulting remarks to an armed man. I guess we're not scary enough. Damn!!! mg |
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MGoduto wrote: kimbercarrier wrote:OC'd at the Wally World in Tabb today much to the displeasure of one customer. He was in his mid to late 20's with his wife and 2 toddlers. I saw him give me dirty looks a few times as we crossed paths a few times going up and down the ailse's. Yaeh it's funny that they think you shouldn't carry because you might get mad and shoot someone with little provocation, but they then try to provoke you. If I thought someone would shoot me with very little cause I'd leav'em alone. No one ever accused the anti's of being very bright. |
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Neplusultra Regular Member
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kimbercarrier wrote: Yaeh it's funny that they think you shouldn't carry because you might get mad and shoot someone with little provocation, but they then try to provoke you. If I thought someone would shoot me with very little cause I'd leav'em alone. I don't think they have the reaction they do due to being afraid you're going to shoot them. I think it's more that the sight of the gun upsets their world view. Kind of like carrying around a sign that says "Abortion is Murder" everywhere you went, somebody eventually is going to get upset with you. The fact that you are carrying is a testimony that you believe evil is present in this world and that's not what they "want" to believe. Because deep down in the goodness of their good heart they know real evil exists and don't like being reminded of it. Last edited on Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 06:32 am by Neplusultra |
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Thundar Regular Member
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kimbercarrier wrote: Thundar I was asking because a young guy came in that store the other day carrying a Taurus in a shoulder holster. Was just wondering if that was you? No I was the 40 year old guy with a Sig looking for a damn spark plug for a riding lawn mower - BTW you guys had the right plug, and a great attitude about OC. |
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AbNo Regular Member
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bbundoc wrote: I am now back up at school (JMU) and will see how it is here in rural Harrisonburg. I Oh, hey! It's good to know there's other people in the area. Slide a PM my way, we'll get a bite to eat somewhere, or something. |
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I won't be able to make it on the Eighth as I am on duty that day. Thanks for the offer, I'll keep my eyes open for the next one though. |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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OD'd at Captain Georges Williamsburg yesterday with no problems. My waiter, who was from Bulgaria, said,"I wish we could carry legally in my country. I really love America!" |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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ODA 226 wrote: OD'd at Captain Georges Williamsburg yesterday with no problems. My waiter, who was from Bulgaria, said,"I wish we could carry legally in my country. I really love America!" Yea, especially when you travel out of country - you really get to see the difference when you get back home !!! |
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Eeyore Regular Member
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The Cinema Cafe in Hampton is off limits--the standard revolver in a red circle/slash is on the door. I stowed my little friend in the car and enjoyed Tropic Thunder with a mediocre dinner and a flat-out bad mojito. Hanging out in the parking lot afterwards, we noticed a lot of people pull up park, sit in their cars for 10-15 minutes, and then leave. That and various loitering teens made me wary enough to go back to the car and retrieve my weapon. Of course, I guess we were loitering, too.... |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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Eeyore wrote: --the standard revolver in a red circle/slash is on the door. But Eeyore, doesn't that just say that the management wants you to carry an automatic instead of a revolver? (I would think so in that neighborhood) Live Free or Die... FreeFlight |
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sccrref Regular Member
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Maybe they do not want people to carry hand guns. So maybe one should carry the heavy stuff while on their premises. |
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Eeyore Regular Member
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Freeflight wrote:
I wish. It actually had wording to the effect of "weapons not permitted" and unlike some of the other patrons, illiteracy would not be a workable defense in my case. |
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da7f2q8 Regular Member
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Today while O/Cing, I went to the DMV (in Denbigh) to renew D/L because I had to take a vision test, and was able to do so w/o my glasses. Strange that there is no vision test required for a CHP. The armed security guard was outside yakking on her cell phone; went to the bank (BofA in Grafton) inside, asked the teller for cash (from my savings acc't). No one even noticed my gun. |
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WhatTimeIsIt? Regular Member
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Open carried today at TGI Fridays and Sam's Club off battlefield in Chesapeake and the Harris Teeter on Hanbury in Chesapeake. No issues. |
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da7f2q8 Regular Member
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Anyone OC in Williamsburg/York Co area? Woman calls boyfriend, not police. http://www.wavy.com/global/story.asp?s=8962335&srvc=latest York County Sheriff looking for abduction suspect YORK CO., VA. (WAVY.com) -- York-Poquoson Sheriff's Investigators are searching for the man wanted for abducting a woman from the parking lot of a Farm Fresh on September 5. Investigators said the man abducted the 21 year old as she walked out to her car in the store's parking lot at 455 Merrimac Trail. He then drove off with her in her own car and eventually robbed her, police said. Police said the woman's friend, who was inside the store, called her cell phone when she didn't return. When the victim answered, police said her companion told them she believed she heard her friend being threatened. Wavy News 10 has learned the victim was able to talk the suspect out of killing her and then into letting her go. After the man released her, police said she called her boyfriend for help on her cell phone. Her boyfriend, who was with police when she called, handed the phone over to the sheriff's deputies, they said. Deputies said they directed her to a safe place where they picked her up. Stay tuned to WAVY.com and WAVY News 10 for continuing coverage on the search for the suspect. Last edited on Mon Sep 8th, 2008 03:11 am by da7f2q8 |
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sccrref Regular Member
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Carried today at Best Buy off of Dam Neck RD and then upto South of the Border (Taco Bell) at Princess Anne and Lynnhaven Pkwy. No special looks, comments or anything. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd today at Walgreens, Bank of America and Zoots in Great Bridge. Also OCd at Hickory Grill on Centerville Turnpike. No problems or issues. |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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da7f2q8 wrote: Anyone OC in Williamsburg/York Co area?They Got Him yesterday!!!! |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd Wensday night for dinner at Plaza Azteca's on Holland Road with 3 other buddies, no issues. OC'd last night for dinner at the Applebee's near Lynnhaven Mall with Mom and 10 month old niece, no issues. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd this past weekend in Gread Bridge at Dollar Tree, Rite Aid, Taylor's Do it Center, 7-11 and Hess Gas. Again no problems or issues. |
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da7f2q8 Regular Member
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Previously (Fri Sep 5th, 2008 02:13 pm) I posted that:Today while O/Cing, I went to the DMV (in Denbigh) to renew D/L because I had to take a vision test, and was able to do so w/o my glasses. Strange that there is no vision test required for a CHP.While OCing on 9/15/2008 at about noon, I stopped at the BofA at the intersection of J Clyde Morris (Rt 17) & Jefferson Ave to use the (driveup) ATM. I noticed that there was an armed guard posted outside the door. This bank is about 3 miles from the one I usually use (above). Didn't see any money trucks. |
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OCed today at Harris Teeter on Baltic Ave, VB. Done it a couple of times, no problems. |
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2A Luney Activist Member
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OC'ed at the Bank of Hampton Roads in Suffolk. The Manager did say has she several customer who carry.She did say it was against the rules but some of her regulars carry so mums the word. Never a word said to me.,she said to don"t worry as i was a regulary, I did mentioned the place wasn't posted. She really didn't care. Even did it when her boss was was there, just Bike Talk All in all no problems. Last edited on Sun Sep 21st, 2008 08:02 pm by 2A Luney |
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denwego Regular Member
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I've been somewhat absent due to working constantly, but I've been OCing all around Hampton Roads for the past three weeks with nary a second glance the whole time. The wife's become the dedicated OCer as well, with a new Taurus 85 for her, complete with pink mother of pearl grips "to match her shirt." And more importantly, I finally joined the VCDL today at the Hampton Roads gun show! Glad to be a part of the solution at long last! |
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2A Luney Activist Member
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Went the gun show in Hampton, bought used a police retention holster and doubleclip pouches.Wife got a Kel-Tec P11 9mm so she can use my uncle Mikes Paddle holster or conceal if she wants Picked up yard signs, stickers and t-skirts and renewed my VCDL membership. All open carry ofcourse. Stopped at wally World on Main St in Suffolk to do so shopping, Walked all over the store and not a word from anyone. Some but mostly friendly. Any comments on the choice of weapon? |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd today at AJ Gators on Holland Rd. with some buddies for lunch, no probs, left as the rowdy football crowd arrived. |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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I had a Great weekend, several positive encounters this weekend. I wore a VCDL Guns Save Lives button all weekend and my Kimber RCP II. I felt the big button made me less threatening and almost EVERYONE talked to me!! It was increadible! and the BEST NEWS is the Admiral finally has a Pistol (Very Pink Pearl handles) And is signed up for CHP Class! This is a MAJOR breakthroughI walked into Mattress Discounters on the Corner of Warwick and Denbigh in newport news. The Manager was VERY Excited and interested! He greeted me with a great big grin and said "I AGREE!!" and pointed at the big orange button on my chest, I Gave him both OCDO and VCDL's website addresses and had a very nice conversation with him. His Business is VERY GUN FRIENDLY so I bought a mattress set from him on the spot! And told him that I would write this up today!Live free or DIE!. Freeflight |
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Tralpat Regular Member
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After I put the kids to bed last night I went for a little walk. To make it productive, I walked to the Farm Fresh on Fox Hill in Hampton. Got a little but nothing more. I bought some flowers for the wife and started home. Walking by the McDonalds there, the drive through cashier yelled "Hey, you got a license for that?" I replied with "For the flowers?" This was obviously not the answer he was looking for. Could tell by the momentary look of confusion. I then explained that in VA you don't need a license to OC and continued home. This was actually the first time anyone has said anything to me about OC'ing. |
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Tralpat wrote: After I put the kids to bed last night I went for a little walk. To make it productive, I walked to the Farm Fresh on Fox Hill in Hampton. Got a little I've yet to get the "is that thing legal" or "do you have a license". I have gotten "are you a detective?" |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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OC'd @ Wild Wing Cafe in Chesapeake off Battlefield again. Only difference was that it was a saturday night @ 9pm and there was a live band and had IDs checked at the door versus gonig for dinner on a non friday or saturday night. |
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Was down in Chesapeake for a work "End of Summer" dinner at Buffalo Wild Wings on Greenbriar. No issues at all, though it did surprise my boss to see me OC'ing! |
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Realbigo Regular Member 
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I just found this site to day and joined. As i was reading the stories, I found an older horror story(last December)about an issue in a WalMart and: they said they noticed I had hollow-points in my gun, and they are illegal for anyone to carry except for LEO, but they weren't going to press the issue now. Is this true?? I'm planing on OC'ing to the HRWM Military Vehicles show tomorrow, and if HP's are illegal for carry, I'd love to hear it, and possibly where it says so, one way or the other, in the Code of the Commonwealth. Thanks |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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That old chestnut, that "hollowpoints are illegal except for law enforcement" is completely bogus, and THOUSANDS of us carry HPs for self defense all the time. Cops know this, many support it as safer and more effective, and none will hassle you about it because there is NO LAW against them in the commonweallth ! The dipweed employee in qusetion was probably from one of the police states up north. PRNJ has some crazy law about carrying hollowpoints, but I don't know the specifics as I have no intention to ever go there. I'll bet the guy was an escapee from that occupied territory.... |
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Realbigo Regular Member
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I appreciate the help. I didn't get your post until I got back this afternoon, so I open carried today w/ Glaser safety slugs to be on the safe side of the the bogus Info. Thanks again. |
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Virginian683 Regular Member
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Tralpat wrote: I walked to the Farm Fresh on Fox Hill in Hampton... I think I would've answered, "You got a license for that mouth?" Just the fact that somebody inside a building (theoretically at work) would verbally accost you walking by outside minding your own business reminds me why I hate that McDonalds -- both the employees and the clientele. One time I was eating there by myself and three teens jumped into my booth and refused to leave until I got verbally aggressive. I was carrying concealed at the time but I wondered if they would have done the same if I had been OCing. (My guess is probably YES, which I find scary.) That's Hampton for you. |
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CRF250rider1000 Regular Member
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That is messed up! I would have called the police IMO. I am just a six foot 150lb 19 y/o though. That is a tough situation to be in because it's one on three and that does not justify lethal force at all. You really don't want to escalate the situation though because that could also turn out bad for you. Which Mcdonalds was this? The police would have been a good way to go in this situation. Mcdonalds has cameras and could have easily provided the police with evidence of the incident and video of the three. |
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Virginian683 Regular Member
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Realbigo wrote: I appreciate the help. I didn't get your post until I got back this afternoon, so I open carried today w/ Glaser safety slugs to be on the safe side of the the bogus Info. Thanks again. In Virginia, you can carry any type of ammunition you choose including depleted-uranium tipped rounds -- there's no law against it. (Not sure what Federal law would say about it.) |
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zoom6zoom Regular Member
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Keep in mind that the law in Virginia is not the same as elsewhere. In New Jersey, you would be correct, civilians can't carry HP's (if they should even be so lucky as to be awarded a carry permit). They can use them at the range, and when hunting. http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/about/fire_hollow.html |
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Virginian683 Regular Member
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CRF250rider1000 wrote: That is messed up! I would have called the police IMO. I am just a six foot 150lb 19 y/o though. That is a tough situation to be in because it's one on three and that does not justify lethal force at all. You really don't want to escalate the situation though because that could also turn out bad for you. Which Mcdonalds was this? The police would have been a good way to go in this situation. Mcdonalds has cameras and could have easily provided the police with evidence of the incident and video of the three. Well at the time I was 23 (25 now) so not much different from you, and 6'2''. Yeah I thought about calling the police, but I figured by the time they got there, they would be gone.* They certainly weren't threatening my life, but they were being extremely annoying, asking me to buy them food, give them some of my own food, and if I recall, actually trying to take food off of my tray. Some might also suggest telling management...except that on the night in question, there didn't seem to be any management present -- if you eat out frequently in Hampton, you know what I mean. I can't remember what I said to make them leave, but it was not nice. *Hampton police suck. It took them about 30 minutes to respond to a domestic violence in progress in my building that I called in. I told the dispatcher it sounded like the woman was being killed. (Luckily, she was not.) So FYI, if you live in Hampton and you're being killed, expect 30 minutes police response time. Just in case you needed another reason to carry a gun. |
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Wow that is a ridiculous response time! |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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IIRC, the average response time nationwide is something like 10-12 minutes. YMMV widely, of course. Just think what can happen in "only" 10 minutes whilst waiting for the constabulary... Not a pretty picture, yet there are those who say personal firearms are unnecessary because "that's what the police are for". (a quote from Jim Brady) |
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Virginian683 Regular Member
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Dutch Uncle wrote: that's what the police are for". (a quote from Jim Brady) How ironic considering he was surrounded by armed guards with submachine-guns at the time he was shot and they STILL couldn't protect him from a .22 caliber revolver! Then again I think he lost significant mental capacity (yes it is tragic) so he was probably just parroting what his wife told him. Oh yeah....that was in "gun-free" DC too. Last edited on Sun Sep 28th, 2008 10:21 pm by Virginian683 |
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Chkultr Regular Member
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I oc'd this weekend at the Neptune Fest! Walked past many of the sheriffs and stopped at the VBPD booth for a free gun lock! Not a look! Just a head nod or hows is going? Yesterday was the only day anyone said anything to me. I was inline buying a cutting board. The lady behind me asked if I was a police officer or were just carrying because I could. I responded and asked her's was. She told me at home in the safe but when she does carry she keeps it in her purse. She also told me her ex husband was a leo. She asked what I was carrying and checked it out, commented on it and asked why I carry! I told her that she was the only one that has noticed. She told me or the only one willing to ask! Very pleasant experience! |
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C45P312 Regular Member
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I too oc'd at Neptune festival for at least 4 hours. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd at Blooms on Centerville Turnpike an Zoots in Great Bridge, no problems. |
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lstcdude Regular Member
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I open carried for the first time today. This morning at the 7-11 on the corner of Pacific and 26th 1/2 Street. Walked in, grabbed my Vault smiled at the cashier, paid my money and walked back out. Then at the McDonalds at the corner of Smith Ave. and Military Hwy. in Chesapeake. They were really slow, I got a few looks, but the manager was very helpful.... Got my double cheeseburger and headed out. And then tonight on the way home at the Farm Fresh on Laskin Road, ran in to grab some milk with no incidents or funny looks. Kind of broke the ice a little. Feeling a little more comfortable out in public now. I carry a Glock 19 with a BlackHawk CQC SERPA holster |
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lstcdude wrote: I carry a Glock 19 with a BlackHawk CQC SERPA holsterSame |
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Chkultr Regular Member
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lstcdude wrote: I open carried for the first time today. This morning at the 7-11 on the corner of Pacific and 26th 1/2 Street. Walked in, grabbed my Vault smiled at the cashier, paid my money and walked back out. Then at the McDonalds at the corner of Smith Ave. and Military Hwy. in Chesapeake. They were really slow, I got a few looks, but the manager was very helpful.... Got my double cheeseburger and headed out. And then tonight on the way home at the Farm Fresh on Laskin Road, ran in to grab some milk with no incidents or funny looks.CONGRATS and welcome! Glad you had an uneventful outing. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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Been awhile sense I been able to stop by been so busy with hunting season going on but have OC'd regularly. Dicks Sporting Goods-Va Beach BLVD & Independence IHOP-Va Beach BLVD & also on Kempsville Dollar General-Hampton BLVD several times WaWa-Hampton BLVD several times 7-11-Oceana BLVD & Harpers Rd several times Chesapeake Regional Hospital K-mart-Holland RD Animal Jungle-Holland RD + a few other places I regular all with no problems. |
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Anyone carry in The Boot (21st street in Norfolk)? Probably headed to dinner there with the little lady Friday night. She's under enough stress right now that I'll just leave my friend in the car if there's going to be a problem...little lady wants to eat at the Boot, she gets to eat at the boot |
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Thundar Regular Member
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Newport News Amtrak Station, 7-11 at MLK in Newport News, Norfolk City Council Chambers, Norfolk Parking Garage next to Norfolk City Hall, McDonalds on City Hall Ave (I think), Norfolk (Close to MacArthur Mall) No Issues, except in Norfolk, where the putrid smell of rotting thuggery made me sick. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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Today to Bottom Dollar, Dollar General, Pizza Hut All on Hampton Blvd in a set back shopping area. Behind the Wendy's. No issues other than a Norfolk Port Authority Officer seen me walking out of Pizza Hut with a load off pizza and asked me to stop. But it wasn't all that bad. Short encounter went like this... NPAO-Excuse me, you with the pizza's! Me-What can I do for ya? NPAO-Are you off duty PD? Me-No I'm Active Duty Navy. NPAO-Why are you carrying a gun? Me-Because I'm practicing my 2nd amendment rights to self protection. NPAO-I wouldn't recommend doing that around here it can get rough at night and you may get jumped because of it. Me-Thats why I carry it. Besides if someone See's it and still tries to jump me then they got some balls or a death wish. NPAO-(chuckles)Understand, just letting you know. Me-Well thanks for the concern. NPAO-You a member of the Virginia Citizens Defense League? I see your wearing one of there hats. Me-YES I AM!! NPAO-Good group Me-You a member? NPAO-No, but thought about it. Me-Ya should!! NPAO-Maybe. Well I got to go get some food and get back to work. You have a good evening and be careful. Me-Will do, you have a good evening as well. While I was ready for the anti-OC speech it turned out to be a pleasant chat. Now with that. Does the NPA have the jurisdiction or the right stop someone outside of the ship yards? |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd for lunch today with buddy at the Hooter's on Generanl Booth in Va Beach. No issues! I might try for the one in Waterside next... no wait... Danbus already tried that! |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd on Sunday evening to Home Depot (Southern Va Beach, behind Walmart on Nimmo Pkwy) off of Princess Anne, then to Outback on Nimmo Parkway for dinner with some friends, then to Hooters on General Booth (again, to visit regular waitress I haven't seen in a while this time). No issues, a few at Home Depot was about it. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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Spent about an hour and a half today wandering around Lowe's on Holland Road, no issues. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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OC Oct 10 Took wife out for Anniversary dinner to Timbuktu in the Hampton Inn on Atlantic Ave. No issues at all even danced a few times. Fantastic food and a great band. Then we went to Wally World on Nimmo Parkway. Only 1 and comment from the male checker. Said he couldn't wait till he was 21 so he could start packing. I informed him that carrying a gun required more responsibility, and it didn't make you look tough or make you a bigger man. His only response was "Word".Oct 11 Carried to a kick boxing and birthday event with no issues gun related. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OC'd at Bloom, Advance auto and Chartway on South Battlefield yesterday with no issues. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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OC'd today to Farm Fresh and Kroger in Norfolk on Little Creek and I-64/564 No issues or strange looks. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd at Applebee's near Lynnhaven Mall for dinner last night with a buddy. No issues! |
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Eeyore Regular Member
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Thundar wrote: Newport News Amtrak Station, Be careful about that one, Thundar. Amtrak apparently brings federal jurisdiction with it--reference http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=12963&forum_id=46&highlight=amtrak |
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Thundar Regular Member
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Eeyore wrote: Thundar wrote:Newport News Amtrak Station, The 30th St. Station incident in Philly is why I OC at the Amtrak station in Newport News. |
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AbNo Regular Member
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OC'd at Ward's Corner last night. OC'd in downtown Norfolk TODAY, including .....  This sign is right outside Waterside. The marked out section says something about "no dangerous weapons". and right outside....  Had a nice talk with a public worker. I asked if I said worker knew who was in charge of the NRHA. I was told "The NRHA... would fall.... under the city.", and "A separate entity, but it would be a division within the city." I only asked this worker because said worker was using a key card to enter the building. I did a little other recon, which I am uploading now. Last edited on Mon Oct 20th, 2008 04:23 am by AbNo |
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AbNo, that was probably a holdover from when they used to be able to prohibit firearms per locality. Perhaps a re-use of an old sign or even signage gone wrong. Good to know that section has been covered over. The couple of times I have open carried in Ward's Corner, the worst I got was a few strange looks followed by the people hurriedly walking away. All I have done is shrug my shoulders and conduct my business. |
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AbNo Regular Member
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Perhaps, Darth, but as I said, the way this sign was painted out certainly, err, displays a misleading picture in my mind. (had to avoid a bad pun there) "Park hours will be posted" - yet the only thing I saw with hours on it was the building. I've yet to see a city park that was open 24/7. (someone double check this ASAP, though) The fact no one even gave me so much as a funny look in the hour I spent wandering downtown Norfolk, Starbucks, Waterside, and one of the parking garages, as well as the fact three NPD walked by me, and one drove past me without incident kinda makes me wonder. |
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IrRelevant Regular Member
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OC in the neighborhood 7-11 on the daily almost. Im usually concealed most of the time. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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Bloom, Centerville Turnpike, Chesapeake no issues. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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Eventfull OC experience tonight at Joes Crab Shack on Greenbrier Parkway in chesapeak. See related topic for details. EDIT--FOR TRUTH OF ENCOUNTER PLEASE SEE OTHER POST WITH THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. Last edited on Fri Oct 31st, 2008 05:19 pm by Bullbuster |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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OC'd at Hooter's Virginia Beach. No problems! |
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rescueguy456 Regular Member
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OCed in MacArther Mall the other day with out any problems. |
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IrRelevant Regular Member
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OC'ed Walmart Battlefield in chesapeake. Not 1 issue. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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Today OC'd to.. Bob's in Norfolk to pick up some 00 Buckshot and slugs. No issues as far as OC goes. Place was elbo room only both on 1st and 2nd floor. 7-11 at Oceana BLVD & Harpers RD. No issue and gas was $1.98. Did see it yesterday on VaBeach Blvd for $1.94 but can't remember which place. Wally World on Lynnhaven Pkwy closest to I-264. No issue. Was asked by greater if I was a LEO. I said "No, I'm Navy". He said thanks for my service and have a nice day. Advanced Auto Parts on Hampton Blvd. Again no issues. |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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13 of us OC'd at the infamous Joe's Crab Shack in Chesapeake last night - Dutch Uncle was the only person we had to watch out for (it's in his blood) and he behaved very well . We had a great time!! |
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CRF250rider1000 Regular Member
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Yup! They even had dancing and we all got hearts drawn on our receipts |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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CRF250rider1000 wrote: Yup! They even had dancing and we all got hearts drawn on our receipts "Hearts" ?? I must have been looking at it upside down! I thought it was her butt!! Damn. No wonder she slapped my face !! |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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Dutch Uncle wrote: CRF250rider1000 wrote:Yup! They even had dancing and we all got hearts drawn on our receipts Oops, so much for "Dutch Uncle was the only person we had to watch out for (it's in his blood) and he behaved very well" |
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CRF250rider1000 Regular Member
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Dutch Uncle wrote: CRF250rider1000 wrote:LMAO!!!!! she was a nice young lady though. I thought the girl on the way out was smokin thoughYup! They even had dancing and we all got hearts drawn on our receipts |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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OC'd at Happy Buffet in Va. Bch. yesterday. No problems. |
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paramedic70002 Regular Member
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Wife and I ate (&OCed) with our 8 & 2 year old sons at pizza place next to Harbour View Regal Cinemas last night. Pretty much a non event except another patron got all freaked out and started making the "finger gun" gesture to her husband, then started pointing at us. He looked, and was pretty nonchalant about the whole thing, but she apparently insisted that they and their kid flee to safety. Sad that her irrational fears ruined dinner out with the family. Bet there was an interesting discussion later on after kiddie's bedtime. Last edited on Mon Nov 10th, 2008 10:02 pm by paramedic70002 |
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HardChrome Regular Member
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Open carried three times at Home Depot and twice at Lowes on Saturday. My wife was redoing one of our bathrooms so I had to make a bunch of runs for supplies. Never had any noticeable events. I was carrying my Browning HP inside my waist band but it was pretty obvious. Hard not to notice that thick grip and the hard chrome finish. I only holster when I'm concealing since my favorite holster is an old competition model that has no retention. |
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darthmord Regular Member
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Does me no good to OC. No one sees me anyways. Everywhere I go, if someone is looking for me, they can't see me unless I'm within a couple of feet in front of them (and not always even then). I swear I must be invisible. Went grocery shopping with my wife on our way home from the OCDO up in Hampton (good steak btw). We were both OC. No one saw me. The cashiers remember talking to my wife (acquaintances of her's). They don't remember seeing me at all, despite standing right next to her. |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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What's so bad about not being noticed? I don't really care if they see me or not. It just shows you how situationally unaware most people are, sauntering around in condition white. If someone were to say to me that OC is very unusual because they've never seen anyone do it, I'd just remind them that MOST people don't even notice when I'm carrying, so likely they've never seen others do it either! |
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darthmord Regular Member
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It gets to be a problem when I try to be noticed for whatever reason and I still can't draw attention to myself. But yeah, it's a great thing otherwise. |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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If its that big a deal, wear a hat that says "Man With a Gun". Of course, you might then get almost as much "attention" as Danbus! |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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I took my youngest daughter to dinner at the new Kelsey's Grill on Rt. 17 in Grafton yesterday. I don't know if anyone even noticed my nice new Walther PPS, but there were no problems in any case. There is a separate glassed in room in the back, for group events I suppose. It might be a possibility for an OC dinner. Last edited on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 12:23 am by Dutch Uncle |
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Thundar Regular Member
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darthmord wrote: It gets to be a problem when I try to be noticed for whatever reason and I still can't draw attention to myself. Why do you want to be noticed? It is much more effective when an anti pipes up and says "why do you have a gun here, think of the children" ... and you say "Ma'am I have brought my gun here over a dozen times without incident. I always wear my gun because I do think of the children." |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OC'd at Bloom on Centerville Turnpike, Petsmart on Greenbriar Parkway, Home Depot off of South Battlefield No issues as always. |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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OC'd at Happy Buffet and Uno's Pizza at Lynnhaven Mall on Sunday. No problems. |
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darthmord Regular Member
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Thundar wrote: darthmord wrote:It gets to be a problem when I try to be noticed for whatever reason and I still can't draw attention to myself. What I'm getting at is whether or not I'm carrying, I don't get noticed at all. You could be looking specifically **FOR** me and not see me standing but a few feet away. It is something that has annoyed the crap out of my family and friends since I first figured out I could do it. A friend called it hiding inside my own shadow. It gets to be a problem when I'm out shopping (as an example) and I need assistance from one of the clerks. They tend to not see me and if one has to be called into the section for customer assistance, they typically are unable to find me. It's definitely a boon when OC though. People don't pay any attention to me and thus I do my own thing. Not complaining here other than to lament the lack of instances being able to educate folks. |
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TheEggman Regular Member 
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darthmord wrote: I have some friends at Langley who might have a good use for your disabil .... err talent! Egg |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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You ever had any major accidents? You could be a ghost and only seen when ya want to be. Hay stranger things have happend. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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Nov 17 Took the kids to see the Santa at MacArthur Mall tonight. Yes I OC'd and have done so there a several occasions. I have never seen a sign on a door or any other place and I checked 2 entrances tonight and still nothing about weapons. Anyway kids got pics taken and we did a family photo as well. I even posed strong side to camera for the pic. No issues at all. Santa apparently already knew what I wanted as he made the comment if I had been good enough this year for a new piece. I said yes wife said no. Will have to wait till I get home to post pic. We walked around in and out of at least a dozen stores. Had to replace my digital recorder at Radio Shack. The one I just got was defective. No issues or comments there. We had dinner at Chili's. No issues as far as OC goes. Wife did have several strands of hair in her fajitas meat. Manager said nothing when he came to say sorry. Only got a couple of looks when I had to get up to retrieve my 2 year old when he tried to escape. This was our 3rd time there and I OC'd every time. Yet again no issue but the first with the food. Passed over a dozen security guards. I made no attempt to get noticed but I didn't avoid them either. Not one said a word and I didn't notice any following us or watching me. So yet again MacArthur Mall seems to be OK with OC. Pic ain't the best. Its was one of those are you ready CLICK thank you next pics.  EDIT--To add pic Last edited on Tue Nov 18th, 2008 01:49 pm by Bullbuster |
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SaltH2OHokie Regular Member
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I thought for sure that MacArthur Mall was posted in the 'rules of conduct' or whatever they call them. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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SaltH2OHokie wrote: I thought for sure that MacArthur Mall was posted in the 'rules of conduct' or whatever they call them. My wife and I both looked over the signs on the 1st floor north parking area entrance door as well as the 3rd floor north parking area entrance door. Didn't see anything at all in relation to weapons. I was also there to get my new phone so I couldn't take a pic of the signs. |
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ccloud43 Regular Member
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OC'd yesterday at Verizon store @ Lohman Plaza, not a comment from anyone, even the security guard was quiet except for a hello and goodbye. Had to get phone updated beacuse i was having problems and then they fried it. SO i got a new phone. OC'd today at K-mart on Holland RD, Walmart on Princess Anne where i bought a box of buckshot without any problems. The went to Red City Buffet at Landstown Commons. Only comment was from a waitress who asked if it was real or fake, I told her it was real and she said cool and walked off. |
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Custom Volusia Regular Member
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OC'd for the first time in about a year and a half today (read here to see why) at these locations: Walmart @ battlefield Couple of different shops in the Greenbriar Mall 7-11 on Executive Parkway off of Volvo No problems at all. Few odd looks that I didn't notice, since I don't care, but my wife did. |
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Warpiggy Regular Member
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OC'd at Greenbrier ROSS store and Rancho Grande on Eden Way, no problems. |
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SaltH2OHokie Regular Member
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Bullbuster wrote: SaltH2OHokie wrote:I thought for sure that MacArthur Mall was posted in the 'rules of conduct' or whatever they call them. Yeah, I went last night and looked over the signs too...nothing there. Not sure whether I'm imagining things or what. I was CC'ing and was with my mom, sister and girlfriend. Girlfriend is fine with OC...mom and sister still aren't on board with "carry at all" much less open carry, so in spite of realizing that the signs weren't there, I stayed concealed for the sake of an enjoyable evening with the mother/sister. |
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sccrref Regular Member
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OCed at Captain George's for an enjoyable Thanksgiving Day with the family. No issues at all other than I had to roll out of there when I was done. |
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hektor Regular Member 
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Had to try this out myself. I CC at MacArthur 100% of the time anyway. Wore my Glock 23 on my belt, went to the kid's playground. Walked right past 2 NPD LEOs, made eye contact. Nothing else but a few . Having 2 adorable 3 year olds in tow never hurts anything, either. (Edit: fix bold type, no need to shout) Bullbuster wrote: SaltH2OHokie wrote:I thought for sure that MacArthur Mall was posted in the 'rules of conduct' or whatever they call them. Last edited on Sat Nov 29th, 2008 04:25 am by hektor |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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OC'd last night at Captain George's Williamsburg with no problems. |
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cbackous Regular Member
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Just got back from a plesent OC outing with my buddy that just got back from Iraq. Glock 19 on my hip, Glock 21 on his. We ate at the Red Robin at Patrick Henry Mall, then walked around the mall itself for a bit. All in all a good time. Tomorrow we are goin to the courthouse in hampton to turn in the CHP paperwork, wish us luck. |
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Bullbuster Regular Member
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Late post but... Black Friday OC.. Wally World-Lynnhaven near the 264 Dicks Sporting Goods-Va Beach Blvd and Independence Bass Pro-Hampton No issues at all. Not even a single question about it. Only recall a couple quick looks. All 3 place packed with shoppers. Got what I needed anyway. |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd at Hess Gass, S. Battlefield Bloom on Centerville Turnpike Chesapeake 2nd Precinct (Protesting gun buy back) |
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Freeflight Activist Member
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Same ole Places... Kmart on Victory Blvd, Smoke shop on Victory (Don't Remember the name), East Coast, Wal Mart, Roses, Cinco de Mayo, Books a Million, Sam's Club Yup... The admiral drug me through every store in HR...Christmas shopping done. Yup... Was open carry took my coat off each place right in the door. As usual no no and especially no from anyone. |
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MirkoCrocop Regular Member 
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Open carried at walmart on lynnhaven today and some lady asked me why I needed to carry a gun, I replied " because a cops too heavy to carry!" and she started laughin herself to tears saying she'd never thought about it like that before and thats one way of putting it! waht a knee slapper!edit: okay maybe not to tears but nevertheless she still laughed hard as hell Last edited on Sun Dec 7th, 2008 10:29 pm by MirkoCrocop |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd at 7-11 on Holland Rd across from Lowe's, and then to dinner with Mom, Dad, Sister and 1 yr old niece to Casablanca's Mexican Resturaunt at Harbour View Shopping Center in Suffolk, no probs! |
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LargeSarge Regular Member 
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I open carried all last summer through out the Hampton Roads and up into the Richmond/Midlothian areas. Most people either did not notice (sheep) and the ones who did most thought I was a LEO (even when in shorts and t-shirt). I was able to educate several folks to the VA laws. Only had 1 negative incident. I was trying to put gas in my truck and the card reader on the pump said to "see cashier". While waiting in line the clerk said I have to leave my gun in the car. (I didn't see the No gun sign as it was on the door and it was held open for me by a customer leaving). Anyway I informed the clerk that I would be taking my gun and money to another store and walked out. |
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fizzer Regular Member
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LargeSarge wrote: Only had 1 negative incident. I was trying to put gas in my truck and the card reader on the pump said to "see cashier". While waiting in line the clerk said I have to leave my gun in the car. (I didn't see the No gun sign as it was on the door and it was held open for me by a customer leaving). Anyway I informed the clerk that I would be taking my gun and money to another store and walked out. What was the name and location? |
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LargeSarge Regular Member
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Corner Mart Texaco 4900 JEFFERSON AVE NEWPORT NEWS Last edited on Tue Dec 9th, 2008 08:41 pm by LargeSarge |
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Custom Volusia Regular Member
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LargeSarge wrote: Corner Mart Texaco Won't be going there! |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd at 7-11 on Holland Rd. across from Lowe's again prior to washing truck yesterday. Then today OC'd for lunch with buddy at Hooter's on General Booth, getting gas and a soda at the Hess on Rosemont Rd. near Hwy. 264, Food Lion out in Suffolk on Route 17 to buy some stuff for watching the football games at the parents place, then on a 30 plus mile cruise through the back roads of Suffolk on the Harley Sportster since the weather was so nice. No issues and a great ride! |
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Reverend73 Founder's Club Member
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Rode my new motorcycle on a little 100mi+ road trip around the area, OCing the whole time. No real issues. One of the lady workers at Sunrise Cycle stated " your pistol looks cold, you should cover it up". I just shrugged and picked up my parts and left. |
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ODA 226 Regular Member
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OC'd at Suffolk Ruby Tuesday's. No problems. |
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denwego Regular Member
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My wife and I have been OCing around for months (since I last posted) without any interesting stories or encounters, but yesterday for lunch was amusing for us at least. We were at the Applebee's on Lynnhaven near the mall while I was OCing my nickel-finish Colt SAA, in a low-slung thigh/belt holster on a western belt holding another 30 rounds of hollow point .45LC... you know, the daily carry! Halfway through our meal, three VA Beach PD officers came in and sat down across the isle, my strong side to them. One pointed for a moment, but didn't make any other indication of concern. As I was getting up, though, and they could see all the rounds in their loops on my belt, one (a sergeant) whistled and said, "Jesus, boy, if you kill that buffalo you're after, the Fish and Game people are gonna eat you alive!" We all had a laugh, including a nearby waitress, and we were out the door. Alas, no buffalo was found |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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Oh, I forgot to post about the shooting incident at AJ Gators on Holland Road on Saturday night... There we were, leaving for the night and as I was waiting inside my truck for my buddy to run back inside and then return, a... how do you say... "Obama Supporter" came out in thuggish gear, retrieved a semi-auto from his pants cargo pocket, racked a round, and then shot 4 rounds into the air. Just by chance a VBPD was driving by and hit the lights and pulled in and the "OS" proceeded to do the 100 yard dash in 2.4 seconds and jumped through a hedge. As this happened, my buddy and I both threw our Serpas on filled with XD's, and went over and talked to the officer on the scene. I informed him as he was taking my statement about the incident that we were carrying. As more units arrived on scene, I was wondering if any of the new units to the area would say anything, none of the other VBPD even said anything about it. They caught him several blocks over a little later after the K-9 unit arrived. So all in all a good interaction with the VBPD during a shooting incident. IANAR, but since their brother has been elected president, 'some' (not all) think they can do as they please now. Last edited on Tue Dec 16th, 2008 05:29 am by DocDaddy |
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SaltH2OHokie Regular Member
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To say you threw them on...does this imply that they were elsewhere? Dudes firing shots is the primary reason I throw mine on before leaving my house. Last edited on Tue Dec 16th, 2008 04:33 am by SaltH2OHokie |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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SaltH2OHokie wrote: To say you threw them on...does this imply that they were elsewhere? Yes, since we there to kick back a few Yuenglings that night, we left them secured in the truck. I did wake up this morning at 4:45am, so things may not be written too clearly by this stage in the day! Same here, Keys: Check, Cell phone: Check, Wallet: Check, XD: Check |
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IrRelevant Regular Member
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Jeness uniforms, on Va Beach Blvd. Went one evening with my girlfriend to pick up some nursing clothes that she needed. Lady working that night informed us that the check cashing joint next door had just been robbed. She happened to notice a bulge (concealing this night) and asked if i was carrying a gun, i replied yes maam i am. She stated do you always, i stated yes maam i do. She proceeded to tell me to watch the door then while i help your girlfriend out, which i thought was a very positive interaction. Last night i return back to Jeness for another accessory that the girlfriend needs, this time in work clothes (business casual/professional) open carry. Same lady is there with 2 others, she introduces me to the other ladies as he's here to protect us. I laughed with them and continued to be assisted by the lady who helped us last time. No problems at all in both incidents. The original lady told me she has a .38 at home being as she lives alone. I told her to look into CWP being as she wasnt comfortable with open carrying her self. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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Went to Food Lion out in Suffolk on Route 17 with Dad to pick a few things up on Sunday, as we were chatting with a fellow in line, he glanced down and then asked if we were LEO's and my Dad told him no and I informed him about OCing in Va. Had a good chat with him as we exited. Dad is interested in OCing and would like to OCDO sometime in the near future. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd last night for dinner at Carraba's near Lynnhaven mall with my daughter and two other friends. No issues! |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OCd yesterday at: Office Depot, Barnes and Noble at Greenbriaer Farm Fresh on Centerville Turnpike, Radio Shack and Dollar Tree in Great Bridge, Walmart in Suffolk (The one off of exit 8B on I-664), all without any incidents. |
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LargeSarge Regular Member
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Have OC'd several times @ Carraba's Newport News (near Patrick Henry Mall) no one seemed to notice. (Our favorite place to eat) |
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denwego Regular Member
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I've got to plug the Uno's at Lynnhaven Mall as a place to go, in case no one has before. As the wife, in-laws, and I were leaving tonight, we passed the manager at the front desk, and he went, "whoa, that's a nice gun! What is that?" I answered (my Colt SAA and western-style holster) and thanked him for the complement, to which he said, "of course! We love to see people exercising their rights!" I told him we'd start coming twice a week with an endorsement like that... I smell an OC dinner coming up! |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd tonight for dinner at Three Amigos in Yorktown off of Victory Blvd. with Dad, Mom, Niece, and Daughter. No issues... except the food was bland and the service was the worst I have ever seen at a Mexican restaurant. denwego- +1 on the UNO's, went there a while back prior to going to the movies and no issues OC'ing and the food is good! |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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Uno's might be a good place for an OC dinner! They usually have pretty good food. Does the Lynnhaven one have tables that can be pushed together for a large group? I've OC'd numerous times at the one on Victory Blvd. near K-Mart in Yorktown with no comments/problems. The irony is that Uno's is based in Chicago, so the originals sure wouldn't expect to see people exercizing their rights. That's forbidden in Daley's gun-free paradise. |
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Reverend73 Founder's Club Member
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OC'd to pick up some take out at Primo's Pizza in VB. There were two VBPD officers in there when I arrived and three more walked by me as I waited in line. No issues whatsoever. |
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MackTheKnife Regular Member
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Slowhand wrote: Thundar wrote:6 Nov 07 - Election Day - OC in polling place (Local Church). No big issues, but clearly some were uncomfortable. The OC in Navy FCU is interesting as their official policy is no firearms and they have the No Gun symbol posted in their windows at the branches. |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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MackTheKnife wrote: The OC in Navy FCU is interesting as their official policy is no firearms and they have the No Gun symbol posted in their windows at the branches. Not all of their branches are posted here.... |
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MackTheKnife Regular Member
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Bubba Ron wrote: MackTheKnife wrote:The OC in Navy FCU is interesting as their official policy is no firearms and they have the No Gun symbol posted in their windows at the branches. This makes me wonder if some of the branches are lazy, or are not enforcing NFCU's policy by omission of the required posting. I would like to think that some NFCU's don't care to enforce this nonsensical policy. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd yesterday for lunch at Applebee's near Lynnhavewn Mall with my daughter, no issues. |
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DocDaddy Regular Member
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OC'd today with daughter in tow to Lowe's on Holland Road and then to dinner at Hooter's on General Booth. No issues. |
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TexasGlock23 Regular Member
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Still learning so bear with me. If there is no sign on the entrance I can either OC or CC? I havn't had trouble yet other than a 7/11 worker asking me if it were real. |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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TexasGlock23 wrote: Still learning so bear with me. If there is no sign on the entrance I can either OC or CC? I haven't had trouble yet other than a 7/11 worker asking me if it were real. That is correct as long as the place you are entering is otherwise legal to enter. Welcome to OCDO, hopefully you can start attending our Tidewater Open Carry Dining Outs - the next one is Tuesday the 6th at Vinny's Pizza and Pasta. Check out the Tidewater January OC Dining Out thread for more info. |
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TexasGlock23 Regular Member
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Thanks. I have to work. I saw the posts but it looks like most dont do weekends. That is the best time for me. So what IS illegal? I have searched many sites and posts. Still not fully up on everything. I'm from Texas, things are a bit different and I like to no I am abiding by the law. So they need a sign if they AREN'T illegal? Or they can request that I leave? Which is fine, I will refuse to go back and spend my hard earned money elsewhere. I usually OC with my Serpa and when I do CC I use a Tucker Gunleather Texas Heritage (great holster). Last edited on Mon Jan 5th, 2009 09:40 pm by TexasGlock23 |
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Bubba Ron Regular Member
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TexasGlock23 wrote: Thanks. I have to work. I saw the posts but it looks like most dont do weekends. That is the best time for me. Why not go to the source: http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm |
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darthmord Regular Member
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That is correct. Pretty much any place (barring the list you posted) is fair game. The big rule to follow is... 'Their house, their rules'. This means if you carry to a mall or restaurant and they ask you to leave or put your firearm in your vehicle, you must do so or risk getting arrested for trespassing. Now upon them making such a request, you can either tell them you are leaving and they have lost your business due to their policy or you can comply. I prefer to look at it this way... If someone wants to disarm me, they are taking it upon themselves to provide for my safety and well-being. That puts me into a customer position (I am a customer of their safety and well-being service) for the duration they want me disarmed. If they fail to provide adequately, I cancel their service and leave. In the same vein, I don't open/conceal carry into my friends' houses without their express approval beforehand (had one tell me he is okay with it because I can provide cover fire while he gets his, heh). I respect my friends too much to not follow their rules. It goes back to guest-right. A host is obligated to provide certain things for guests and guests are expected to provide a certain level of behavior. It's a mutual contract of behavior and expectations. Do what is right for the host while standing up for your rights. Combine that with a pleasant smile and most people won't bat an eye lash. |
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IrRelevant Regular Member
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Back on topic, open carried into food lion chesapeake. Went to the meat department to grab a whole chicken, older lady was stocking the meats. Asked if i was a LEO, i replied no maam, asked if i were a detective, i replied no maam, asked if i were an undercover agent, i laughed with her and replied no maam, she then stated you must be important...i stated no not at all, lol. Then i replied that i am just a civilian doing my duty, she stated you need a gun these days. I agreed, and she proceeded to say that if anything went down she sure as hell hoped i was around. We chatted for a few minutes about how the youth of today arent making it to the age of 20 because of the senseless violence and thuggery. Pretty good interaction IMHO. |
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open carried tonight at Vinny's Pizza (in Newport News) with the other fine Open Carry folk. This was at the Open Carry dot org January meeting set up by Kimbercarrier. A grand time was had by all. I noticed a Newport News police officer in what looked like a dress uniform. Very flashy and official looking. She never seemed to pay us any mind. She had dual silver bars on her collar so she musta been some kind of officer. Veilleicht Sie ist die Mensa Serviererin??? Oh, and the food was good. Thanks for the good time Kimbercarrier. |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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Was bedeutet eine"Mensa Servierin"? (A very smart waitress??) |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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Vielen Dank... |
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ccloud43 Regular Member
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OC'd at the Tidewater Young Libertarian Group meeting and dinner at Kelly'sTavern Gen Booth Blvd. Then at the Farm Fresh in the same shopping center. Only problem was cashier at Farm Fresh asked if I was a Senior Citizen. |
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cbackous Regular Member
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does anyone know if Smokey Bones on jefferson in newport news is gun friendly or not? |
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Thundar Regular Member
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OC d at 7-11 on Aberdeen Rd in Newport News, no problems. |
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CRF250rider1000 Regular Member
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OC'd Wendy's and rite aid at little creek and Granby street in Norfolk no comments even by the 4 people behind the counter. I was surprised Last edited on Tue Jan 13th, 2009 03:37 am by CRF250rider1000 |
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Dutch Uncle Activist Member
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Welcome to the world of OC. My question is whether or not your father has gotten on board with this. Did you finally convince him? Has your mother written you off as a lost soul?  |
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CRF250rider1000 Regular Member
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With all the recent shootings and robberies in my area I took it upon myself to ensure my own safety. I do not carry everywhere obviously but when I go out late at night I do like to OC to the drive through or what not. I had to go into the Walgreen's to get a drink on my way back from Wendy's and I was not leaving my Glock in the car with all the thugs standing out front I respect my dad's wishes for me to not carry, but in the end my life is more important to me. I will OC to the dinners now and am trying to OC more, but I am trying to limit when and where I OC to places that I feel are more sketchy than others. I am actually going over to Lafayette tonight around 10 after my chem lab is over. I kicked butt up at Silver Eagle last week |
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CRF250rider1000 Regular Member
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oc'd at walgreens on little creek and granby to grab some coke on my way back from lafayette. clerk was very nice and so was the security officer. just made so | |||||||||