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murphyslaw State Researcher 
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I am an alaska state res. and LOVE IT. the weather is perfict for me and I hardly wear a coat. I own two of my own businesses one is snow removal I plow and remove snow from commercial lots as well as a few residential lots. the other is sightseeing, of which I own and sometimes operate a vessel that takes up to 12 ppl on 1-9day trips where we see glaciers and wildlife all threw out prince william sound. In the summer between late june and mid sept. I run a commercial fishing vessel out of S.E alaska. When In anchorage where I live in the winter, I OC everyware( I fing CCing is a PITA) and have never gotten a negative response to my choice by people other then those that think ccing is all there is and that ocing is redicules and recless. to which I respond " Its legall to do so why hid it like a criminal, by ccing you are saying that you are shamed[shy] about your dicisson to arm yourself) they usually get all mad and stuff after that but I usually walk away, tho I have made a friend from that remark and we carry and go shooting all the time, he has even started to oc now and then. the folks in alaska are mostly accustomed to Ocing and rarely will you run into problems. Just remember If you are nice they will be nice. atleast that has been my experiance. |
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ilbob Activist Member
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murphyslaw wrote:
I love the show on the discovery channel about the crab fishermen in Alaska. My wife refuses to watch it though. Does not want to know where the crab legs she loves actually come from. Deadliest Catch I think it is. I highly recommend watching it. These guys are near to insane if you ask me. Serious brass ones. Last edited on Wed May 24th, 2006 10:34 pm by ilbob |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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Yeah I know most those guys, the sig's grew up next door to my uncle. I did some crabbing it was fun and all but Im not much for getting wet. So I switched to running my own boat for salmon. I love bad weather as long as I dont have to get wet, I always say "if the boat can take it bring it on". this fall while coming back acrost the gulf from ketchican I ran in 11' seas with 75mph gust for three days, I was the only one that didnt get sick and my crew has been with me for the last 4yrs(this season will make 5yrs) BTW I am running a 58' delta its powered by a cummins 343(first million mile motor cummins made) when at full cruse I burn 6.7gph. it has a 14' draft(amount of boat under water). Its like a weeble you know weebles wabble but they dont fall down tho there have been a few times I was kinda scared myself. Last summer I cought 1.2million pounds of salmon, after expenses the boat had 87k in profit.(after fuel groceries wages and such). its good money for 7weeks of work. and I dont have to get wet(im captain). |
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Flintlock Regular Member 
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Murphy, thanks for the comments on open carrying in Anchorage. I am moving there in less than a month and I have been wondering how it was percieved in town. Are there many posted places these days? I have heard that most of the malls and several stores are posted. Can't wait to get there, lived there for sixteen years and miss it badly. I hope to hear many more of your experiences on this forum and I'll be sure to post mine as well. Cheers |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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the malls are posted, not to many stores, to be honest I dont go to the mall so I dont care and If I see a sign i either ignore it or take my funds elseware. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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I just moved to Fairbanks a little over a month ago (month and a half?), and love it there (it's "there" because I'm in Georgia right now for another 5 days or so). murphyslaw, what do you carry? Last edited on Thu Jun 1st, 2006 02:38 am by Baradium |
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VAopencarry Regular Member 
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Fairbanks!! You are a hearty soul. .... |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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I have a buncha family in fairbanks my uncle lives right on the river acrosst from this place that has a big water cannon that shoots water halfway acrossed the chena. I couldnt live there its to hot in the summer. I like the cold. and I carry springfield xd45 acp service. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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VAopencarry wrote: Fairbanks!! You are a hearty soul. .... So far I'm loving it.  We'll see what I say after the first winter, but I love the outdoors and Alaska is full of that! Oh, and the laws etc actually make sense. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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yeah all the laws in alaska are for the most part upfront and easy to figure out, its mostly common since stuff. winters are ok usually average like 30 below. but the summers are 80's all the time thats to hot for me anything above 70 and im sweating my as$ off. good luck in fairbanks. you up there in the service? must be if your coming from georgia. do you offroad or anything like that? Last edited on Thu Jun 1st, 2006 03:51 am by murphyslaw |
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Baradium Regular Member
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murphyslaw wrote: yeah all the laws in alaska are for the most part upfront and easy to figure out, its mostly common since stuff. Right now in Georgia it gets to near 100 degrees with probobly 90% or higher humidity. Miserable. 80 or 90 degree summers with low humidity will be paradise for me. It's been above 95 each time I looked at the thermometer for the past week. I'm a pilot just starting out with an airline up there. I like open spaces and the outdoors, I've wanted to move there for a very long time. So coming from Georgia by choice. Fairbanks, even downtown is so much more open feeling to me than the semi rural area in Georgia I'm from it's amazing. Do the occasional offroad, but there isn't much around here in Georgia. I'm big into hiking, backpacking etc and would like to do more offroading. I have a '78 International Scout that I'll be getting up there using a '71 International crewcab. Sold a 1980 diesel Scout about a month ago since I was moving (have to limit how much I can bring, miss the 25 mpg though). The crewcab towing the scout will also be able to bring whatever I have down here and want to keep (I'm thinking that's how I'm going to get my guns down here up there). Going to need to wait until I have a place to keep them (the trucks) though (no room at apartment in Fairbanks), so that trek will wait until another time. Once I have my Alaska driver's license, I'm going to get a pistol up there that will go in my survival bag and that I will also carry at least for camping, hiking etc (also planning on a 12 guage). I'm a big fan of the Ruger Blackhawk and I'm down to wanting a stainless new model with the 7.5" barrel in either .45 Colt (long colt) or .44 Mag. I really like the idea of .45 Colt, mainly for the history of the round. I shot over 100 rounds through an old model .44 mag this past weekend (probobly more than that pistol had ever had shot through it  ). I can shoot it one handed without a problem, but I've been wondering if I might be able to get more rounds off faster with accuracy with the .45 Colt due to the lower recoil. But I want to still have a chance of stopping a bear too. What's your opinion on that? I know, really digressing from the actual topic... Last edited on Thu Jun 1st, 2006 04:20 am by Baradium |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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a 45 would work for a bear, but if you can handle it I would get a 454casule or a 500mag. I have seen bears walk threw 45's and I have seen bear taken down with 380's. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER try to shoot a bear in the head, with anything less then a big rifle. IH rules who you flying for? I have my comercial license but never done anything that I would need it. I love flying hi-pro aircraft and twins. I got my private license on the day of my 16th b-day. unfortunitly my med expired and i forgot to put in for a renewel in time. Last edited on Thu Jun 1st, 2006 05:13 am by murphyslaw |
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Baradium Regular Member
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murphyslaw wrote: a 45 would work for a bear, but if you can handle it I would get a 454casule or a 500mag. I have seen bears walk threw 45's and I have seen bear taken down with 380's. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER try to shoot a bear in the head, with anything less then a big rifle. I need to be able to shoot one handed. As a survival gun, it could come into play after an accident and I can't be stuck with something that requires two hands if I can't use one of them. Besides, while he's chewing on one hand, maybe I can still shoot with the other. Seriously though, I don't think those really big ones are good for 1 handed shooting. And with the difference in price between the blackhawk in .45 or .44 and redhawk in .454 casull, I can buy a 12 guage with ammo for the regular trips. I hear that if you let one get close enough shooting through the nose can work. At least in the Fairbanks area there seems to be a fair amount of IH, know of 3 or 4 for sale right now offhand. I bought a ford diesel from Fairbanks Natural Gas, and it's my first non IH vehicle. At least it's got the IH powerplant though. I'm with Frontier Flying, as far as your med goes, that's your medical, not your license that expires. Fixing that is as easy as going in for a new medical exam in whatever class you want to get. If it's been that long I imagine you probobly need a BFR as well, but that's just a flight with a CFI and some manuevers (and maybe some practice if you're rusty). Your certificate never expires, it can just be revoked. If you've lost your's you just need to send off for a new copy (which will be the current cool plastic credit card one). Not having a medical doesn't void your ticket, just means you can't use it until you get that stuff fixed. |
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longwatch Founder's Club Member 
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Is it generally consider sensible up there to pack a handgun for Kodiak defense? I heard about a guy a couple of years ago who dropped an attacking bear with a .44mag. However, before that I had also heard that everyone who had actually killed a bear in self defense with a pistol had also died themselves. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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im not sure of the validy of that. I know three people that have killed bears in defense and well i talked to them last week at the offroad club meeting. the 44mag is a fine round. I have shoot the 454 casule(damn it hurts) and the 500mag(refer to first caption) |
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longwatch Founder's Club Member
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Well that information certainly invalidates the theory. |
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VAopencarry Regular Member
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Man, I should have never poked my head in here. It's rekindling my desire to move to Alaska..... |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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no no no dont rethink moving to alaska. these events where bears kill people are not a common thing. I think the last time someone got killed by a bear was two years ago. depending on where you live you will come across diferent typs of bears. I have been in situations where i could have killed a bear for defense a few times but my level head and good planning worked out best for the bear and myself. 13 or the bear shootings/attacks are when people are hunting, when you smell like game and are in a place with animals that eat game your making trouble. usually the bear pops out of the bushes within 50ft or a person and they panic and start shooting. now dont get me wrong its DAMN scarry when a 1400 lbs 7'3 bear looks at you like dinner, but 70% of the time theres no reason to shoot. When were out camping there is atleast 2 large caliber(44mag or biger) and several rifles. much like personal defense agains humans shot placement counts #1. I have heard of people gettin mauled(sp?) after shooting bears with 500mags and I know a fella that took one down with 5shoots from a jennings 380. the best thing to do is carry what you can, and use cast lead or fmj's any type of expanding round or softnose round will expand to fast. now I'm not an expert on bears but I have been there a few times and know lots of people that have been there too. Last edited on Thu Jun 1st, 2006 04:55 pm by murphyslaw |
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VAopencarry Regular Member
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I think you misunderstood me Murphy. I said 'rekindling' not 'rethinking'. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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oh ok yeah i mis read. I do that from time to time. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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VAopencarry wrote: I think you misunderstood me Murphy. I said 'rekindling' not 'rethinking'. So hop to it already! |
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Hey murphyslaw, from what you know where is the best place to aim on a bear coming towards you when using a handgun? |
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Baradium Regular Member
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Swampbeast wrote: Hey murphyslaw, from what you know where is the best place to aim on a bear coming towards you when using a handgun? I haven't shot a bear myself, but on another forum it was recommended to me to go for a shoulder shot on a charging bear. This is becuase vitals shots (center of the chest) can give a "kill" shot but still let the bear get to you. The idea being that if you break a shoulder, the bear will either turn or tumble (as well as slow down), giving you precious seconds to unload more rounds into it so it goes down and stays down. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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That one doesn't look so "cute and fuzzy" as usual. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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you make it to fairbanks yet. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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murphyslaw wrote: you make it to fairbanks yet. Made it last night, only took a bit over 36 hours from Atlanta to Fairbanks. They're starting us with flight with a goal of getting us online ASAP. Truck jump started, going to see if it'll start tomorrow morning. If it does, the room mate is in trouble. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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glade to hear you got back ok. good luck with your training. |
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Way late replying, but someone's yanking your chain, LOL. If you ever get bored, check out some of the Alaska Bear Stories books, you'll read about bears killed with handguns, and then you'll read about bears that refused to die being shot with big rifles. longwatch wrote: Is it generally consider sensible up there to pack a handgun for Kodiak defense? I heard about a guy a couple of years ago who dropped an attacking bear with a .44mag. However, before that I had also heard that everyone who had actually killed a bear in self defense with a pistol had also died themselves. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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AlaskanAtHeart wrote: Way late replying, but someone's yanking your chain, LOL. If you ever get bored, check out some of the Alaska Bear Stories books, you'll read about bears killed with handguns, and then you'll read about bears that refused to die being shot with big rifles. I'd heard about some of those. Seems to me that even with big rifles, shot placement is very important with a bear. When it's charging at you, just getting a kill shot might not cut it. Random Fairbanks related question: Have you been to A Taste of Chicago on college st? It's a trailer set up at the fair grounds at the moment, best barbecue I've ever had and the sweet tea was about perfect. That brings to 3 the places in town that have sweet tea (that I know of). I'd just as soon not have to shoot at a charging bear, but I'd rather have something to shoot at it with than nothing at all... |
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AlaskanAtHeart Regular Member
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Baradium wrote:I'd heard about some of those. Seems to me that even with big rifles, shot placement is very important with a bear. When it's charging at you, just getting a kill shot might not cut it. (Having issues with quote feature, so please ignore any funky posts, LOL) Yes, from reading the bear stories, it seems as if a head shot or a neck shot is the "sure" kill with a big gun. Stories in there about bears with their hearts literally blown to smithereens and they're still charging! I have not been to that restaurant, I'm pretty lazy about not going out to eat much. It's been about a year since we last ate there, but we really like the BBQ at Player's Grill, they used to be on Airport, but they've moved to ummmmm.....Illinois, I think. (The road that crosses College near Sam's Club) We're from the south, too, and we haven't dared order sweet tea in town. Neither of us drinks it rot-your-teeth sweet, but we're pretty picky about our tea, so we usually order Cokes and just get our tea fixes at home. (There's usually 2 gallons in our fridges at any given time) I think I put it in the other thread, but we bought a couple of guns yesterday, .45 for me and a .300 win mag for him. Didn't get a chance to try them out today, unfortunately, but I'm guessing I'll have sore hands and shoulder if we get to take them out tomorrow, LOL. Did you get a gun yet? What kind? Like it? I found a couple more places to shoot today on a run out CHSR, I'll post about them in the other thread. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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AlaskanAtHeart wrote: (Having issues with quote feature, so please ignore any funky posts, LOL) Don't know about Player's grill. Know Aviator's steakhouse (decent tea) and Big ____'s (ok, can't remember the guy's name). They have fairly good barbecue and pretty good tea, Taste of Chicago is done by the guy who the barbecue place is named after, best barbecue ever and great tea. I know of 2 places I wouldn't hesitate to order tea from and a 3rd I'm willing to test it with on case by case basis. You can always get coke if the tea isn't up to par. What kind of .45 did you get? .45 ACP or .45 Colt? I still havn't gotten a gun yet, although I'm still very much inclined towards the Ruger Blackhawk. |
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AlaskanAtHeart Regular Member
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Baradium wrote:Don't know about Player's grill. Know Aviator's steakhouse (decent tea) and Big ____'s (ok, can't remember the guy's name). They have fairly good barbecue and pretty good tea, Taste of Chicago is done by the guy who the barbecue place is named after, best barbecue ever and great tea. I went cheap with the .45, it's a Hi Point, ACP. I'm assuming the .300 win mag is a cheapy, too, because it wasn't expensive, it's a Remington 710. Paid about $135 for the .45, which is right up my price range for something I only plan to use maybe 20 times a year (use meaning carry it, not necessarily fire it). But, after visiting the Indoor Range, I'm thinking about getting a Hi Point 9mm to play with and if I like that, then a higher end one, maybe. We've been here in Fbks for about 18 months now, and it's really sad but we've only been to a few local restaurants We tried The Cookie Jar right after we moved here, everyone else we've ever talked to about it loves it, we thought it was OK, nothing to really rave about. LOVED Player's Grill, really enjoyed the Mongolian BBQ place on Airport, and think Jalepenos is very good. I think that's all the local restaurants we've tried. Not overly impressed with the service at the Chili's here, but the food seems to be fairly good, so we just get take out when we go there, and of course Denny's is unique here, what with the reindeer they serve, LOL. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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AlaskanAtHeart wrote: I went cheap with the .45, it's a Hi Point, ACP. I'm assuming the .300 win mag is a cheapy, too, because it wasn't expensive, it's a Remington 710. You can try shooting the revolver I'm getting once I finally pick one if you'd like. I do at least have it narrowed down pretty good though.Is this .45 a rifle? Price doesn't seem too bad to me either... wish the ruger revolvers were that cheap. I've been in Fairbanks a month and a half now, don't even know where The Cookie Jar is. Mongolian and BBQ together scares me. Jalepenos is good, there are a few other good mexican places around as well. I probobly won't ever go to the Chili's here again. I had that bad of an experience with them. I won't even do take out with them. I wasn't too impressed with Denny's when I went though, I have no desire to go there again, but that's just because other places had much better food for same or cheaper prices. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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Gotta love this great great state we live in here I am sitting in the southeast waffle company enjoying a mocha and free internet. Im opencarrying while reading about others open carrying. is there anything better. not to mention that whilst sitting here I have seen two other folks(both men mid 40's) come in get coffee and leave that had planly(sp?) visable sidearms. GOD I LOVE THIS STATE. |
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You are indeed very lucky, murphyslaw. |
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VAopencarry Regular Member
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Excellent!! I love Alaska too.... |
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I was thinking about going up to Alaska for some backpackinig with a buddy of mine. I originally wasn't planning on taking any of my guns, but after talking to some people, i thought i might reconsider. Originally i was thinking just a .22 pistol with red dot scope, its a good survival weapon, if we ever got lost or what not, ran out of food, easy to hunt small animals, not too bad for self defense but definitely not a first choice. i also thought of a .22 rifle, but its too much to carry. After talking to some more people, i thought, "well maybe i should bring my XD-40". at least its got a little more stopping power, but i doubt it would help against a bear. I also have a 30-06 and a 18.5" 12 guage. I was considering one of those, but again, i don't know if i want to deal with carring a long gun. Will a 30-06 or a 12 ga slug do anything against a bear. is it worth the trouble to carry one? should I even bother bring my XD-40, or is it just another hassle. any thoughts? |
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Baradium Regular Member
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I brought my .44 mag up with me at the beginning of this week, since I was using a full sized gun case I also brought my 30-06. I asked at the gun store and got some rounds that the guy said should penetrate and then still have the energy to break bone. Basically you want a round with a lot of mass and a low expansion coefficient (not full metal jacket though). Drop isn't an issue since in a defense situation it'll always be within 100 yards. I don't know if I'll actually carry the 30-06 anywhere though unless I end up actually doing some hunting. The 12 gauge with the biggest slug you can find is actually a recommended weapon for bear. When I did my initial research that and a 45-70 were the two best options. As far as handguns I was told that the .44 mag is really as small as you want to go if you plan on shooting a bear. I also bought some shot shell rounds for the .44 mag to use for small game. There is bear spray and some people only carry that. You could carry bear spray and a smaller firearm such as the .22, but you have to realize that the firearm might not do anything to a bear other than make it more mad at you. I've been advised that in a defense situation the idea is to break a shoulder on the bear, you don't do a center mass shot because they take so long to drop. Breaking a shoulder will turn or tumble the bear and give you more time to knock it down so it stays down. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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For most times im in the woods i carry the xd45acp but thats just cause i dont have anything bigger would like to get something biger but this is what i have. I figure between the 14rds in the gun and the two extra clips of 13rds each even being small that kinda power should get something done. in the last two weeks I have come within throwing distance of three brown bears, got within 20ft of a 2yr old brown and within 50ft of a mom and a single cub and not once did i feel it even nessecary to even draw the pistol just backed away nice and slow and kept my distance. oh btw i have been in tenakee springs for the last three weeks |
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Baradium Regular Member
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the yetty wrote: I also have a 30-06 and a 18.5" 12 guage. I was considering one of those, but again, i don't know if i want to deal with carring a long gun. I went by the local wal-mart and asked about rounds for my 30-06 (and also picked up some rounds for my .44 mag. I got Bear rounds, shot shell rounds (both for the woods, shot shell for small game), and some standard rounds. I have to admit that since I stuck 5 bear rounds in it (old model blackhawk so leaving the one under the hammer empty), I havn't changed any rounds out. The rounds that were recommended to me for the 30-06 are Remington Express Core-Lokt 180 grain rounds. For the .44 I'm using Alaskan Backpacker solid lead rounds. The shot shell rounds are CRC 44spc/mag (so really .44 special rounds). I'd still like to get a new model blackhawk, just for the extra round and safety features. The old model does do the cool 4 clicks though. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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hey its boring in here, We need more alaskan packers so I have someone to talk to. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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Hahaha, come up to Fairbanks then! |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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I am planning a trip up that way when I finish this little project im working on my truck, swaping the std cab for a crew cab and installing a military 6.2l diesel. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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murphyslaw wrote: I am planning a trip up that way when I finish this little project im working on my truck, swaping the std cab for a crew cab and installing a military 6.2l diesel. Hahaha, why a military 6.2? Unless you got a good deal on one, that's a lot of more expensive 24volt parts IIRC. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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It dosnt have any electric stuff on it so i will use a 12v starter and alt that I already have. and I bought it specialy cause of the model injector pump it has, they are a special pump that only the military uses they are alot tougher and can withstand crapy fuel better then an average ip(yes a shop can get parts for it). its called "hard parting" most of the orings are replaced with metal rings and bushings and stuff like that. the ip is worth more then the whole engine so if thats the only good part on the whole thing then im happy I only payed 135bucks for it. and I know those ip's are worth there weight it gold(have you looked at gold prices lately). but im gonna bring it home flip it over check the bottom end. and bolt it to the test stand and give it a wing if it runs it'll get all new gaskets and get put in if not then i'll rebuild it first (rebuild should only cost bout 800). which is still worth it to me. that and I will be doing more water crossings with out worrying about shorting out the distributor. |
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I take it for granted that you know how to bleed a diesel engine. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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uh yeah. learned that when I was a Weee little lad playing with the ol tractor and ran it out o fuel |
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Baradium Regular Member
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murphyslaw wrote: uh yeah. learned that when I was a Weee little lad playing with the ol tractor and ran it out o fuel Betcha didn't let it run out of fuel again, didya? |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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nope. I have found with these 6.2/6.5's is that if you prime it to the pump it will clear itself, i have an electric lift pump spliced in with the manual lift pump so if(when) it gets run out you hook up a jumper wire to the elect pump and jumper the fuel cut off silonoid, let it run till there is no more air in the return line(have a section of clear hose) then fire it up or crank it will usually clear up in about 30-45secs. err atleast thats how its worked for me so far on my other diesel trucks. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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That's cheating :p Did you buy this one direct surplus? |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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yup picked it up from elmendorf(sp?). |
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Baradium Regular Member
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murphyslaw wrote: yup picked it up from elmendorf(sp?). I just started paying attention to the liquidators, too bad stuff normally goes for so much. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I see there are only about two members from AK, and only one from Anchorage. I suppose you can make that two, because I'm from Anchorage too! LOL! Anyway, I haven't really tried OCing yet for obvious reasons. I do concealed carry without a permit because my understanding is, you don't need one to carry in the state of Alasksa, and that includes municipalities. I do understand the responsibility that comes with CCW, and am an active member of other CCW forums, and have read the AK state laws on firearms. I've already had to inform one officer that I was carrying. Fortunately she kept cool, and told me to keep my hands out of my pockets. I still may apply for my permit, so I can avoid background checks upon purchasing firearms. I wanna try OCing, but I always chicken out LOL! |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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Welcome to OCDO. we live in a great state. I too have been looking at getting my alaskan cwp, I have a non-res one from Wa) just for the ability to travel with my sidearm. The 10minutes it takes them to do the call in is fine with me case then i have time to get accessories for the said firearm or just wanter around the shop. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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spyderdude wrote: I see there are only about two members from AK, and only one from Anchorage. I suppose you can make that two, because I'm from Anchorage too! LOL! Anyway, I haven't really tried OCing yet for obvious reasons. I do concealed carry without a permit because my understanding is, you don't need one to carry in the state of Alasksa, and that includes municipalities. You are right that you don't need a permit to conceal or open carry and municipalities are forbidden from making their own laws regarding firearms. It seem that a LOT of people conceal carry. I havn't seen many people open carrying, doesn't make it less legal though, and I hear that you'll find a many more people open carrying from hunting season through winter (although then it reverts to everyone having so many clothes on you can't see them anyway). |
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So none of you are LEOs, just regular hard working people like myself? I'm 21, but I look like I'm about 16 or 17. I did open carry today for the first time, took a trip to McDonalds, and nobody noticed my firearm except the kid taking my order. He asked me if I was a security guard or an undercover cop, and I simply replied No, I'm a civilian. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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spyderdude wrote: So none of you are LEOs, just regular hard working people like myself? I'm 21, but I look like I'm about 16 or 17. I did open carry today for the first time, took a trip to McDonalds, and nobody noticed my firearm except the kid taking my order. He asked me if I was a security guard or an undercover cop, and I simply replied No, I'm a civilian. What did you carry? My super blackhawk is a bit obvious. It's a bit much for carrying around town, might as well carry around a rifle! But I think it's just right for the wilderness. |
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I carried a Springfield Armory XD9 Service Model. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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Well Im sort of a leo, been working at it(apd app. in motion) done some civilian state patrol stuff and the sort and was a reserve officer when I lived in Wa for the sheriffs dept. I work as a armored truck guy by day and a repo guy by night. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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murphyslaw wrote: Well Im sort of a leo, been working at it(apd app. in motion) done some civilian state patrol stuff and the sort and was a reserve officer when I lived in Wa for the sheriffs dept. I work as a armored truck guy by day and a repo guy by night. Alright, I'm waiting for an explanation on this one? This makes a half dozen jobs for you. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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He he. I just started the armored truck gig last two weeks ago. and have been doing the repo on and off for a while. If im happy with the armored truck gig im not gonna go fishing next year as I also turned down a fishing job this winter. I may still do my plowing this winter havnt decided yet, dont have to till the show hits, If i do i will just take a few jobs instead of a whole lota jobs as usual. I'm not working at the dodge dealer anymore they pissed me off so I left. umm lets see what have I forgot? |
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Baradium Regular Member
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So when you going to come up here? I thought you were buying a lot of stuff *for* fishing! |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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Im planning on a trip up there some time after i get this diesel swap thing done. I did buy ALOT of stuff for fishing but it was all for the boat with company money. I am gonna go back down to homer in a week or two to build a new alarm system for the boat(bilge levels engine vitals fire, that kinda stuff). I "float" around alot work where"when" i want and so forth. if i get hired to the apd then so be it that would be hella cool. but other then that I just wander around and work when i need to. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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So where is everyone??? this state has some of the highest gun ownership numbers in the union and there is only 3 ppl here that talk about it, and in the last 2 monthes no one has talked about it. man....... whats wrong with us alaskans. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I suppose we must spread the word about opencarry.org. I haven't really seen anyone else open carry other than LEOs. |
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AlaskanAtHeart Regular Member
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I'm around, just haven't checked the forum in a while I've not seen anyone OC in the Fairbanks area. Ya'll were talking about getting a CCW to avoid background checks.....you better double check that, I am almost positive I read something in June or July that said a CCW would no longer preclude the need for a check. I can't remember where I read it, but I think it was on the state website. |
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Baradium wrote: So when you going to come up here? So, it has been in the high 60s all this week down here in Georgia. How is the temperature in Fairbanks? |
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VAopencarry Regular Member
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Alaskan is right. 2 thumbs up to the state for making this clear, as stated on their website, and not muddled for the masses to interpret for themselves. Look for the flashing 'New' icon and bold blue text  http://www.dps.state.ak.us/PermitsLicensing/achp/ |
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Baradium Regular Member
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Fairbanks isn't too bad this time of year. Been hovering around zero... but wait until summer and then ask again. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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well. been up to FBX here twice in the last month. this last trip on the way back saw a guy k.o his 2005 f150 on a moose, guy behind him lost it and ended up in the ditch I dont know how I was able to keep my '03 c6500 with a 21' car carrier bed on the road but i did with out hitting anthing. wheeeeewww man it was scary. I ended up being a nice guy and pullin the guy out of the ditch and gave the guy who k.o'd his truck to back to anc. and hooked him up with my buddies tow company who went right out and got his truck. |
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How'd the moose make out? |
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I spent 6 months in Chickaloon, AK back in 91, beautiful country. If I was to do any hiking in the woods in Alaska, I would "Open Carry" a Marlin Model 1895G Guide Gun 45/70 Gov't., a brush busting, bone breaking bullet. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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VAopencarry wrote: How'd the moose make out? the moose layed down for about 5min. then got up and walked off the road into the trees. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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murphyslaw wrote: VAopencarry wrote:How'd the moose make out? You didn't make sure to put it out of it's misery and provide food for the soup kitchen?  I'm thinking the tax return is going to buy something that isn't quite so showy that I might just start open carrying this summer... that super blackhawk with the 7.5" barrel is just so much gun for walking around town with. Feels nice in the woods though. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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The Alaska section of this forum isn't very active. Anyway, I just recently got my CCW permit, even though it's not required. I just don't feel right OCing or CCing without one. I'm not sure which cops are pro-carry and which cops are anti-carry, so that's really the main reason I got a permit, and in case I decide to do some traveling. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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spyderdude wrote: The Alaska section of this forum isn't very active. Anyway, I just recently got my CCW permit, even though it's not required. I just don't feel right OCing or CCing without one. I'm not sure which cops are pro-carry and which cops are anti-carry, so that's really the main reason I got a permit, and in case I decide to do some traveling. Not to burst your bubble, but... regardless of how the cops feel, they are going to treat you the same whether you have a permit or not. It doesn't make it any less legal to not have the "permit." I'll end up getting one for the reciprocity... but it's not going to change anything for going around in the state. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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I have mine as well, but it was stricktly for the recipritory rights that it comes with. I also have a Wa CPL and an oregon CPL and a Ne CPL. I have yet to run into any APD or AST officers that have given me a hard time or seemed to dislike the fact that I was armed. I did however walk into a situation where I walked out my front door walking to my truck just as three APD officers were walking by one with a k-9 one with a shottie and one with an Ar-15(or m-16) they asked me why I hade a firearm Told them it was my Constitutionl right and that I carryed 93% of the time, they told me to have a good day and I was on with my buisness. Later found out from one of my APD buddies that a house on the next block was broken into when the wife was home and they were walking the area trying to find the dirtbag. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Well, I can certainly imagine the hassle one would get for carrying w/o a permit, because the training is still required to obtain a permit. I could be wrong about some APD officers being against the right to carry, perhaps they all agree that law abiding citizens should be allowed to arm themselves when they leave the safety, and security of their homes. I've only had to deal with one officer, and I politely told her that I was armed, and she seemed cool about it. I just simply feel more "legal" with the permit now. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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spyderdude wrote: Well, I can certainly imagine the hassle one would get for carrying w/o a permit, because the training is still required to obtain a permit. I could be wrong about some APD officers being against the right to carry, perhaps they all agree that law abiding citizens should be allowed to arm themselves when they leave the safety, and security of their homes. I've only had to deal with one officer, and I politely told her that I was armed, and she seemed cool about it. I just simply feel more "legal" with the permit now. "I can certainly imagine the hassle one would get for carrying w/o a permit" That line right there scares me. You are not ANY more legal now than before and the officers won't and shouldn't give squat about whether you have a shiny "certificate of completion" or anything to that effect. This has come too far in this state to willingly give up a right and then imply that there is a reason to. If this is how you feel at this point, I urge you to not carry that little piece of paper with you in the state of Alaska. The reasons you will carry it are completely contradictory to everything that has been done to protect our rights to carry. A feeling that you may be harrassed is all the more reason to NOT carry that permit with you. Illegal activity of that nature must not be tolerated. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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double post... oops... stupid computer... Last edited on Wed May 30th, 2007 08:51 am by Baradium |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Ok, I'm not LEO or anything like that, but put yourself in an officer's shoes. Would you feel more comfortable around a citizen who took the time to go through the training to get a permit, or would you feel comfortable around a guy/woman who simply decided to pack heat, without even knowing how to use the gun? I know I'd feel alot better around someone with a valid CCW permit, than I would around someone who decided one day that they were going to carry a gun. I may be young, perhaps even act "immature" sometimes, but I'm not stupid. I may still get harassed even with my permit, if a cop decides to pull me over, or stop me for whatever reason, I don't know what cops think, but I would think that having a valid CCW permit would put an officer at ease with me. I understand the duty to inform, and I will do so everytime I have an encounter with an officer. Last edited on Wed May 30th, 2007 09:52 am by spyderdude |
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Lew Regular Member
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I would feel more comfortable around someone who knew the law. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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spyderdude wrote: Ok, I'm not LEO or anything like that, but put yourself in an officer's shoes. Would you feel more comfortable around a citizen who took the time to go through the training to get a permit, or would you feel comfortable around a guy/woman who simply decided to pack heat, without even knowing how to use the gun? I know I'd feel alot better around someone with a valid CCW permit, than I would around someone who decided one day that they were going to carry a gun. I may be young, perhaps even act "immature" sometimes, but I'm not stupid. I may still get harassed even with my permit, if a cop decides to pull me over, or stop me for whatever reason, I don't know what cops think, but I would think that having a valid CCW permit would put an officer at ease with me. I understand the duty to inform, and I will do so everytime I have an encounter with an officer. I know enough cops to know that they are a lot more comfortable with someone who knows what the laws are than someone who thinks that the permit will mean something. You trying to show how you have a valid CCW permit will just make the officer *uneasy* because the officer will know it's not required and that you *should* know it's not required. You're much more likely to make the officer nervous as then they'll think that you are going overboard to show how "good" you are and thus may be trying to hide something. And this is completely ignoring how you're advocating that we should give up the right to carry without a permit, and this is one that only recently was given back! We aren't in New York, we aren't in California. If you want to live under those types of restrictions, move there. But don't try to bring them here. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Ok, I get what you're saying, you may know more cops than I do, but I didn't get the permit for the wrong reasons. I got it because Alaska still offers the permit program, even though its not required. I don't regret going through the training one bit, and I don't feel like a badass with or without the permit. I didn't simply make a decision one day to get my permit and pack heat, I nearly became a stabbing victim about a year ago.. Only then did I look into Alaska's laws, and I've read every single law carefully. So yes I know the laws regarding the carrying of guns, but I got the permit anyway. I know about the duty to inform, I know guns are still prohibited in court rooms, bars, any federal building, K-12 schools, and pretty much any business that chooses to put signs up that prohibit the carrying of guns. That was the whole point of why I took the CCW CLASS, was to gain more insight on Alaska's laws. Last edited on Thu May 31st, 2007 06:56 am by spyderdude |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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it was just the fact that you said you think police would treat you different for NOT having the permit. I have done quite a bit of LEO work (both in AK and Wa) and can say as far as the folks I know and I that is not the case. I have been carrying for quite some time and during that time I have not told any officer That I was carrying while in Alaska. mostly due to the fact that I opencarry 92% of the time and only CC when at certain venues. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I'm just saying having the know how of using a gun in self defense, and knowing the laws is helpful. I'm not against having the no permit required law, as I've carried for over a year w/o one, after nearly getting stabbed to death. However, I was still unclear on some of the laws in Alaska, especially municipal laws, so I decided it was in MY best interest to take the CCW class, and I'm glad I did. Some other people may be clear on the laws, but I wasn't. I fully understand having the permit doesn't make me have LEO status, or make me a "mall ninja", and now that I am clearly aware of the laws in Alaska, I feel more comfortable being able to Open Carry. Murphy, I saw a guy at Value Village on Northern Lights OCing a S&W 357 Magnum revolver, back in I think it was either January or February, I can't remember. That wouldn't happen to have been you would it? I know not very many people OC in Anchorage, so I was just wondering if it happened to be you that I saw. Last edited on Thu May 31st, 2007 09:01 am by spyderdude |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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ok it was just a little shocking to see someone say they feel better having the cpl for fear of police harasment. There is no such things as to much training or to many classes or knowing the law to much. I have not shoped at the value village since I have lived in Ak. and I carry either a 1911-a1 high polish or a SA XD45ACP service(this mostly). if you see me you will know I will be the guy that is dressed like I just came from a business meeting carrying one of the above. I always enjoy seeing and meeting other folk that enjoy expressing there constitutional right to carry, I love it when people aproach me and start asking me questions about carrying or just gun ownership in its self. I even enjoy the hecklers anything that gives me the chance to even attempt educating a citizen. Last edited on Thu May 31st, 2007 09:21 am by murphyslaw |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Business suit, and an XD45, I love the sound of that LOL! I had an XD45 Service model, but I was forced to sell it due to financial issues. I do plan to pick up another one in the near future, because I really like that gun. It does get expensive to shoot, so I switched to a 9mm (Glock 19), because 9mm is obviously cheaper to shoot, but now I have some .45 ammo left in the safe, but no gun to shoot the ammo out of. I am still unclear as to whether I could carry into a shopping mall like Dimond, Northway, and the Sears mall. I know the 5th Avenue is posted, but I haven't seen any signs in or around the other malls in Anchorage. Last edited on Thu May 31st, 2007 09:56 am by spyderdude |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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well all they can do is ask you to leave, if you do no harm no foul. if you dont then its criminal tresspass. like I said in a post a way back, I dont hardley EVER go to the mall so I dont know how they treat it. I have carried in sears on many of occasion with no problems just a funny look from the clerk. Last edited on Thu May 31st, 2007 10:26 am by murphyslaw |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me. This truly is a great state! |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I just wanted to share the fact that I managed to find an anti-carry business in Anchorage. It is the Car Care Center on Muldoon Road, next to a church, on the left hand side as you're heading to the Glenn Highway/Elmendorf AFB. I had to help my Mother take her car down there, and it was rather hot that day, so I decided to openly carry. I walked in there, with my tshirt neatly tucked in, and my G19 in its holster. The guy behind the desk, looked at me, and then proceeded to help my Mother. When we got back home, not even five minutes later, the phone rings, and its the guy at CCC. My Mom answers the phone, and apparently the guy told her that it is ILLEGAL to carry a gun the way I did, and is considered "brandishing", and that he would call the cops if I walked in there again with my gun being carried that way. My interpretation of the word "brandishing" would require me to actually take my gun out of its holster and hold it in my hand. I ended up writing a friendly note to them, letting them know that I will no longer be doing business with them, and I'm more than willing to pass on the word that they don't allow ordinary citizens to exercise their right to carry if they so choose to do so. |
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the yetty wrote: I was thinking about going up to Alaska for some backpackinig with a buddy of mine. Take the 12 gauge with slugs and 00 buck. I work out in the field a lot and on my last trip to Bluff Alaska got the scare of my life with a big Coastal Grizz. I took a 12 Gauge and carried it everywhere. Jeff Cooper had a few thoughts on your last chance against a bear, only to be used when the bear is on top of you; "A "bear defense" course was recently run at Gunsite and turned up a couple of interesting points. One is that sheer power will not do for a bear. If you are in real danger from a bear, he will be on top of you, and what you need is penetration. Once a bear has got you down, or a lion for that matter, you have to brain him, and you must do that at contact distance. A 357 snubby, using a very hard, sharp-pointed bullet, would seem to be the answer. I have a friend who went this route while attempting to photograph a lion. He used a Super 38 auto, and while he survived, he will never again have full use of his left hand." When I go out I take both the 12 gauge and the .357 snubby. This is the link: http://www.molonlabe.net/Commentaries/jeff10_6.html Here is a picture of me and another guy taking a GPS location on a survey marker, with Bluff in the Background. Attached Image (viewed 256 times): Last edited on Tue Jun 12th, 2007 04:21 pm by tarzan1888 |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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spyderdude wrote: I just wanted to share the fact that I managed to find an anti-carry business in Anchorage. It is the Car Care Center on Muldoon Road, next to a church, on the left hand side as you're heading to the Glenn Highway/Elmendorf AFB. I had to help my Mother take her car down there, and it was rather hot that day, so I decided to openly carry. I walked in there, with my tshirt neatly tucked in, and my G19 in its holster. The guy behind the desk, looked at me, and then proceeded to help my Mother. When we got back home, not even five minutes later, the phone rings, and its the guy at CCC. My Mom answers the phone, and apparently the guy told her that it is ILLEGAL to carry a gun the way I did, and is considered "brandishing", and that he would call the cops if I walked in there again with my gun being carried that way. My interpretation of the word "brandishing" would require me to actually take my gun out of its holster and hold it in my hand. I ended up writing a friendly note to them, letting them know that I will no longer be doing business with them, and I'm more than willing to pass on the word that they don't allow ordinary citizens to exercise their right to carry if they so choose to do so. Ah....... Gotta love the uneducated. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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ok its to quiet here, I'm back from fishing so let the talking continue |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Did you enjoy fishing? I'm just sitting here in English class at UAA, work is ok, and just living life the best I can. Winter is almost upon us.... time to bundle up! |
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Baradium Regular Member
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Same ol' same ol' up here... I was saving to buy a smaller sidearm and fell into a winnebago slide in camper.... it's done a good job of sucking money... |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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Fishing was good. now I'm back home and glade to be carrying again. |
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man, I want to move back home (kenai/homer... meh, just alaska would be nice). |
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Baradium Regular Member
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Nice area down there, I did some halibut fishing in Homer a few weeks ago. I was pretty surprised to learn about the massive tides there... stark contrast to the northern coast where it might be an inch (if it even moves at all). |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Hey all you Last Frontier OCers, just wondering what ya been up to. Me, it's work and school. I haven't really OCd in a long while, I still don't have the courage to do it regularly. CC is no problem for me though, for obvious reasons. Anyway, not much else to say really, except be careful out on the roads this winter. I'm surprised it hasn't snowed yet. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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yeah I am very surprised there is no snow. I have been working on a new business and getting stuff set up for it. and working on my trucks ALLOT |
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Baradium Regular Member
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murphyslaw wrote: yeah I am very surprised there is no snow. Speak for yourself! We've had snow in Fairbanks for a while, got more today... |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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Baradium wrote: murphyslaw wrote:yeah I am very surprised there is no snow. lucky. my poor plow truck has been feeling abandoned. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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murphyslaw wrote: Baradium wrote:murphyslaw wrote:yeah I am very surprised there is no snow. Well then move to Fairbanks, problem solved! |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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naw thats ok, I dont much like FBX |
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Baradium Regular Member
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murphyslaw wrote: naw thats ok, I dont much like FBX That's fine,just move to FAI then... Or you could always go to North Pole... who doesn't want to live near Santa's house? |
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Hey guys! I'm new here and just wanted to stop by and introduce myself. It is really nice to see a few OCers up here, especially in Anchorage. I've lived in Anchorage for 13 years (military) and absolutely love Alaska. Fish all summer and hunt whenever I have the time I am 18, shoot fairly often, and was looking at starting to open carry later on this winter. Has anyone carried around this age? Should I expect problems with LEOs or other people?? I don't look 18, and most people think I am more like 20-21. However I would like to avoid any problems (age griping) if possible. I'd be carrying either a Glock 20, Ruger P90, or a S&W 2" revolver. Thanks guys, Jon |
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Baradium Regular Member
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I'd have to find the laws dealing with underage carry. I did find it before but don't remember the various limits. There are steps for when certain ages can carry (based on whether you are in town, the woods or home). I don't remember offhand if there was a step from 18 to 21 for handguns. If you don't know the rules regarding that already I advise making very sure you know before you carry at all. |
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I had looked into it, and found that there was no age step up between 18 and 21 and the only restrictions seem to be no CCing under 21. I've never found anything in Alaska that has to do with location restrictions unless one is under 18. I've checked the state statutes/constitution, is there anywhere else I should be checking for this type of information? Somewhere I might be missing? Thanks, Jon |
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Baradium Regular Member
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akhunter3 wrote: I had looked into it, and found that there was no age step up between 18 and 21 and the only restrictions seem to be no CCing under 21. If you found them for under 18 then that'll be what I was thinking of. I remembered age restrictions, just not what the ages were. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Yes, I have found some pertaining to being under 18. No possession unless in the field type of thing, as well as the usual no concealment except when out in the field. Do you know of anyone who has carried under 21? I haven't talked to anyone who has, however to be fair I have never encountered ANYONE open carrying in Anchorage that wasn't a off-duty LEO. I would imagine under-21 OC is probably seen more often in the village areas? Jon |
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Hello I have just found this place.. I am from the alaska4x4network.com I know MurphysLaw from there. nice to meet you all.. Last edited on Mon Nov 19th, 2007 11:03 am by Gun4fun |
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murphyslaw wrote: Im planning on a trip up there some time after i get this diesel swap thing done. Helps allot when you live with your parents huh? |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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I would say it helps them, since I pay quite a bit in rent. who be this? |
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Baradium Regular Member
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I didn't realize your fishing was out of Homer... I was down there the other month. Gun4Fun, I assume you're in Anchorage? |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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The fishing is not out of homer, the boat fishes homer in the winter but in the summer I take it across the gulf and fish it between juneau and ketchican. you must have been down there with the guard doing touch and goes at the airport? |
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Baradium Regular Member
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murphyslaw wrote: The fishing is not out of homer, the boat fishes homer in the winter but in the summer I take it across the gulf and fish it between juneau and ketchican. Nah, went fishing. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Well guys, did my first 'real' OC today. It went much better than I thought it would, got one or two sideways glances but besides that, nothing. hit wallieworld, freddies and homedepot while I tried to get the christmas shopping done. Gotta say I LOVE the Serpa, expensive but it was completely worth it. Jon |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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what were you carrying in? a serpa cqc? glade to hear it went well for ya. I OC'd all day but all I did was drive, and stopped at the holiday on 5th, then the freddies in fbx. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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yup, I was carrying in my Serpa CQC. You OC'd driving to fbx?? What type of holster where you wearing? I would think that would get uncomfortable OCing that long while your driving... Jon |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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I had my XD 45acp service in a serpa CQC at 2:50 at the middle cant setting. on the paddle. I just picked it up. I normally carry in a don hume agent 2 but I need this CQC for IDPA so I decided to wear it for a few days just to see how I liked it for normal carry. It just might replace my hume for day to day carry as I actually like the paddle I was sceptical about paddles but the paddle attachment came with it so I figured egh why not give it a shot. when I am going to be driving for a long period of time I slide the holster forward a bit. and when I am going to up and active for a while I slide it back to about 3:30'ish Last edited on Sun Dec 16th, 2007 08:43 am by murphyslaw |
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Baradium Regular Member
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murphyslaw wrote: what were you carrying in? a serpa cqc? One of these times you're really going to need to drop a line when you're in town... |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Do you like that XD?? I've been looking at picking one up in .40 for graduation. I definitely like the paddle system on the CQC. I was also skeptical, but when you have to loosen your belt to get the holster off, I'm not too worried about it. Jon |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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I love my XD 45acp service. I grew up with 1911's, and had a few glocks. I traded my glock 17 and some cash for my XD. since I got my Xd the 1911 has been a safequeen. Sorry Ryan, I was IN AND OUT. mabey one of these days I will have some time and we can do lunch. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I have owned the XD45 ACP Service, and plan to buy another one in the future. I had to sell it due to hard financial troubles. I would love to meet some of you local OCers, it would certainly make me more comfortable knowing I'm not the only one. Maybe we can meet up at a restaraunt for dinner or something. Last edited on Mon Dec 17th, 2007 03:24 pm by spyderdude |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Those XD's get better every time I hear about them. I'm hopefully going to pick one up here towards summer. I would certainly be up for a OC lunch or outing of some sort. It would be nice to meet some of the other folks in Anchorage that are excercising their right to OC, and like you said, it wouldn't hurt the confidence part of it either. Jon |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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Definitely. I am going state side on the 20th for 10days. when I get back we should try to plan something. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Sounds good guys, looking forward to meeting some local OCers! |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Me as well, What would y'all be looking to do?? Food? Shoot? Might as well start the ball rolling on that... I peeked into the Idaho OC area and saw they are getting ready to do something similiar. Good to see OCers getting together in groups. Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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There are plenty of good places to eat around the Anchorage area. We could go shooting, but it's a tad cold for me. I guess when we do meet up, all I gotta do is look for a few guys with guns strapped to their belts right? LOL! I'll most likely be carrying my Beretta 92FS. I work night shift at Mcdonalds, and I am off from work next week for 4 days (Mon-Thur), if maybe you akhunter would like to meet somewhere either Wednesday or Thursday if you have nothing going on. Last edited on Fri Dec 21st, 2007 07:18 am by spyderdude |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Yup, it's definitely a little cold outside, I went to RC the last day there were open(first sunday in dec.) and it was actually alotta fun shooting in the cold. I was surprised how many people were shooting too. I normally carry my Glock 20 if I'm going anywhere even remotely crowded, as I don't have any retention-style holsters for my P90. It does make a good glovebox gun when I'm driving though. I'd be up for meeting sometime in the next couple weeks. I don't have a whole lot going on this next week as I'm outta school. Just gonna try and kick some bunnies up and work a bit. Let me know where/when and I'm game. Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Alright man sounds good. I'm free to do anything on Wednesday and Thursday of next week, in the afternoons/evenings. Maybe we can meet up at Barnes & Noble parking lot as thats the place where I like to meet new people, then maybe we can go grab a bite to eat or somethin, or just hang out. If we do meet in B&N parking lot, just look for a light blue Honda CRX, and I'll either be in it or next to it. By the way I couldn't help but notice you put your name "Jon" in your posts. I have the same name LOL! (short for Jonathan). |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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That's incredibly strange. I use jon, which is also short for Jonathan. Do you go to UAA?? Yea it sounds good to me, maybe meet up at B&N then go grab somethin' to eat and just hang. I drive a 93' 'old man' colored F150 (tannish brown) and it's always dirty as can be but ehh.... Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I did recently attend UAA, but probably gonna take a semester or two off to get some money saved up. I guess if you're not doing anything around 3 or 4 in the afternoon on Wednesday, we can meet in the B&N parking lot. I get paid that day, so should have some money to do something besides eat. Last edited on Sun Dec 23rd, 2007 12:12 am by spyderdude |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Aright, sounds good. Three would work fine for me. Just lemme know what you want to do and I'll make sure I take the day off from work. (Just love being able to set my own hours )spyderdude; Do you hunt?? Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I have hunted once before, but haven't been hunting since. I'd really like to get into it more, but I just need the proper tools (guns) to do the job. I don't really have anything planned for us to do other than grab some food, and maybe we can hang out at my place, or go catch a movie at one of the many theaters here in Anchorage. I myself like to play video games, especially first person shooters and racing games, I don't know if you're into that kinda stuff, but just somethin me and my buddies do everytime we hang out. Maybe go look at some guns. It'll finally be great to get to know someone who also carries, because nobody else I know carries a gun for self defense. akhunter, check your private messages too! Last edited on Mon Dec 24th, 2007 03:31 pm by spyderdude |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Ahh... yup. you definitely gotta pick up another gun or two and get started, it's amazing how much fun you can have with a a good pair of boots, or even better a 4x4 and a shotgun out by knik. I play vg's a little, not that often. I'd be up for going to check out some guns, I've been meaning to check out the ammo can downtown, but haven't made it out there yet. It's on my list over christmas break, along with a visit or two to boondedocks. With it being right after christmas, I'm hoping I'll have some gift money to go blow on .45 ACP dies. saw your pm and replied. Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I'm guessing you reload. I was going to get into reloading .45 ACP for my 1911, but I sold the gun to a friend, because I needed the money to fix my car. I'd like to eventually pick up a Springfield 1911 Black Stainless. If I do get another gun, it's going to be either a Ruger 10/22, 30.06 bolt action rifle, or a 12 gauge with a longer barrel (one I have has a 18" barrel). If I can get the money, I'm going to pick up the 10/22. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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I'm going to try and get a XD40 before I leave for college, they look awesome. I have a 10/22 right now. Awesome lil guns, alot of fun to go plinking with. Only downside is you can customize them to the point where you have practically a grand into a 200 gun. Jon |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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hey guys been out of touch this past week. If you guys decide on a date/time/place, let me know. I am getting into reloading as well, I shoot to much to pay todays prices for .45 and .223 The XD is a fine firearm in every trim. I have a 45acp service and it put the glock 21 in the safe as well as the SA 1911-a1 that I carryed before getting the XD. I have yet to have any kinda of failure with it and have bout 2800rds threw it by now. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I would like to meet up tomorrow (12/30), but my car is in the shop getting an oil leak fixed for the 2nd time. Hopefully by Wednesday of next week we can meet up in the evening for dinner or something if you guys don't have much going on. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I just found out that I finally have the weekends off, and I work mid-shift (2-10PM) during the week, so I'm up for a meet on a weekend! |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Sounds good to me. I'm going to try and get out and shoot this Sat, can finally burn the .45 a little more freely as I got the dies in yesterday. Murphyslaw; Are you the same murphyslaw from the alaska4x4 network?? Jon |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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I is. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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ahhhhh. awesome I registered over there but ain't gotten my account to activate yet. I would be the guy with the stock Ford 150 from the Knik run small world's what it is. Jon |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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SWEET, yup that was me rocking my Nissan. If you ever have Q's or need help on the network send me a PM. I searched to cross check your e-mail and yahoo and aim accounts with the database and didn't come back with anything. now that I know ur account isn't activated it makes since. ok back on topic. I am still game anytime, you folks with schedules figure it out and I'll be there. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Lets meet Saturday evening, say around 6PM, and grab some dinner or something. I like to meet new folks in the Barnes & Noble parking lot, but if you guys like, we can meet at like Dennys or or IHOP, or some sit down kinda place. Last edited on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 08:20 am by spyderdude |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Well for starters what side of town do y'all live on?? I'm over on the East side of Muldoon... Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I live on Muldoon too, near Totem theater. Last edited on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 08:37 pm by spyderdude |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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I live in midtown |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I am still up for a get together if you guys are. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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sure |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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6PM @ B&N parking lot. Look for a light blue Honda CRX! |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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ok I'll be in my silver 85 dodge plowtruck |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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It was nice to meet you Murphy finally. We'll have to definitely set up another meet in the future. I feel better about OCing, knowing I am not the only one. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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yup good ta meet ya two. hopfully next time we have a better showing Last edited on Sun Jan 6th, 2008 06:45 am by murphyslaw |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Yeah for sure. As far as I know there are only 3 of us here in Anchorage that I know of on this forum. It would be nice to be able to educate others on carrying defensive handguns. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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HELLOWWWWW W W W W W W W W W W W W W W is there anyone out there e e e e e e e e e |
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Baradium Regular Member
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murphyslaw wrote: HELLOWWWWW W W W W W W W W W W W W W W Still here, but someone keeps not saying hi when they're in fairbanks....  |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I am still here.... I think Not a whole lot going on, just working and sleeping. I went to Sportsmans Warehouse the other day, to get some 9mm practice ammo, and somehow the new Ruger SR9 made its way onto my "to buy" list! |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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hey guys I'm still here I swear. I've been working my tail off trying to get together enough money to pick up a new Glock. Sorry I couldn't make it last week.  Murphy; how long does it normally take to get ur account activated on ak4x4 network?? I have registered twice w/two diff. emails and I can't get a activation email... Spyderdude; where are you going shooting at? Anyone know the price to go shoot out at the indoor range in the valley?? so who's hitting the gun show this weekend?? haha ok that's enough talkin' for now guys, gotta go work some more. p.s. If anyone knows anybody who wants to get rid of a good condition G17/19 lemme know Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I just found out about the indoor range in Palmer, and it's 15 bucks per shooting session, and if you put down 30 bucks for annual membership, it's 7 bucks everytime you go. I took the annual membership, and I've been shooting more often. If you do become a member, your first one is FREE! I plan to go to the gun show this weekend too. Maybe we can all meet up sometime and go shooting over there in Palmer, instead of trying to shoot in the cold. You can't go wrong with a Glock. I have the 19 myself, and wouldn't even think of selling or trading it! Last edited on Wed Jan 16th, 2008 07:43 am by spyderdude |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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I havent been in FBX for quite some time. Thinking about hitting the gunshow but I think I am gonna go icefishing instead. Glock smock. my XD put the G22 in the safe for good. now I forgot what else I was gonna write. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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oh yeah. the MVS range is where the IDPA and IPSC matches are, I am a member. its a nice range. there getting ready to upgrade the ventilation system but its ok now. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Cool. Sounds like getting together to go shoot out there sometime would be a good idea. Just no making fun of my shooting...or rather, inability, to shoot Anyone know if they allow reloads? I would be all up for heading to the gun show, but it's lookin' like I'm gonna barely be able, if at all, to make it. busy weekend Murphy; Do you know how I can get my ak4x4 network account activated?? It won't let me post, I never got a activation email, and the webmaster got emailed and didn't do nothin' so far. Jon |
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Baradium Regular Member
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I'd bet your activation e-mail got spam filtered. Check your spam box (if it hasn't been emptied already). Might need to try another name and do it again. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I don't think the MVS range really cares what type of ammo you shoot, as long as it's safe, and you don't injure yourself, and other shooters. They also carry a small selection of common pistol ammo as well to buy if you run out of ammo. I like the fact that they have Law Enforcement sillouette targets for 50 cents a piece. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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They are a good bunch of guys. the range is run by volunteeres. I am working on becoming an RO for them(still need to be aproved by the board). They have ammo and targets. Dont matter what ammo you use as long as its not certain calibers. cant remember the no-cool calibers off the top of my head. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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PM SENT akhunter3 wrote Murphy; Do you know how I can get my ak4x4 network account activated?? It won't let me post, I never got a activation email, and the webmaster got emailed and didn't do nothin' so far. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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REPLIED murphyslaw wrote: PM SENT The range sounds awesome, I'm gonna try and make it out there sometime within the next couple weeks. Is it a 25 yrd. range?? When do y'all normally go shoot? Jon |
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I try to make it out there with another buddy of mine usually every other Sunday. We went last Sunday, and I do believe it is a 50 yard range IIRC. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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yup its a 50yrd |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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Baradium Good to finaly meet ya man. hope u had a good trip back home. will have to catch you again some time. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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Likewise, going to have to do it again sometime. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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You guys had a meet without me? HOW DARE YOU LOL I kid I kid! Anyway, I'm still down for meeting up again. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Sounds good to me. I am busy for the next couple weekends. Maybe get together and go shoot sometime in/around early March? Jon |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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It was a busy day outside of getting to meet ryan. He was down from fbx for the afternoon. |
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I was just there at the range last weekend, putting 150 rounds through my new .45 acp, http://www.mvsrange.com/range-info.htm is where you will find the webpage, I wouldnt mind meeting some new shooting buddies, i think i may get the .40 next also... |
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Rabid SA-XD Regular Member
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can anyone in fairbanks tell me how the carlson center feels about OC or CC? Ill be up there at the end of march doing the home show. |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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Hi there folks, I am not new to the forum but have been absent for quite some time and am now back into the swing of things. For a little background, I am an outdoor enthusiast in many different capacities and cherish my rights. I have lived in Alaska on and off for 18 years or so and I love this great homeland of ours.. I conceal carry as well as open carry depending on the day or the circumstances but I firmly support any method one chooses to exercise that fundamental American right. If you all have a get-together of some type, I would definitely be game. I look forward to continued discussions..  Cheers |
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Duplicate.. Please delete. Last edited on Tue Feb 26th, 2008 12:23 am by Flintlock |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Hey Flintlock, I saw a guy last January OCing a S&W 357 Magnum revolver at Value Village on Northern Lights Blvd. I was just wondering if that might have been you. I know not many people in Anchorage open carry. |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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No, sure wasn't. I haven't open carried much around town lately, I have been concealing.. I go through spurts where I will OC all-the-time for a while and then revert back.. Just depends.. Honestly, I have seen nobody else other than law enforcement open carry in town limits, but I have seen others OC in the field or on the salmon streams regularly.. |
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Rabid SA-XD Regular Member
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I oc'd all weekend in the valley, ihop, fred meyer, wal-mart, sportsmens, nobody said one word to me about it. the clerk at the ammo desk in wal-mart looked like he wanted to, when i bought some ammo, but nothing was ever said. |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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Rabid SA-XD wrote: I oc'd all weekend in the valley, ihop, fred meyer, wal-mart, sportsmens, nobody said one word to me about it. the clerk at the ammo desk in wal-mart looked like he wanted to, when i bought some ammo, but nothing was ever said. Run into any problems when you are around Anchorage? |
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Rabid SA-XD Regular Member
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not yet, i think most people will leave you alone, because they think if youre carying it in the open there must be a reason, and therefore should know what you are doing. from what i can tell, the only thing a bussiness can really do about it is ask you to leave. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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NEVER F'in MIND Last edited on Tue Feb 26th, 2008 06:31 am by murphyslaw |
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Baradium Regular Member
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murphyslaw wrote: just dont open carry in palmer. it is in there township regulations that open carry is illegal. so when running threw there I just throw on a windbreaker or something. Doesn't Alaska law have a preemption statute that localities cannot override the state law? IE, they might have it on the books but they legally can't enforce it. Last edited on Tue Feb 26th, 2008 06:25 am by Baradium |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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Baradium wrote: murphyslaw wrote:just dont open carry in palmer. it is in there township regulations that open carry is illegal. so when running threw there I just throw on a windbreaker or something. Baradium, you are correct. Pre-emption passed and signed in 2003 nullifies any locality restrictions stronger than state law. If such a "law" currently exists, it would be an illegally enforced law and we should do something about it.. We need confirmation.. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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9.73.020 Carrying weapons prohibited when. A. It is unlawful for a person, other than a peace officer (including an acting reserve officer), to carry in the city a concealed weapon on or about his or her person in any manner. B. It is unlawful for a person, other than a peace officer (including an acting reserve officer), to openly carry a firearm in any of the following places: 1. A premises licensed under AS 04.11 (alcoholic beverages), to include without limitation, a restaurant or eating place holding such a license; (The state law exempts restaurants as long as the person carrying is not consuming alcohol.) 2. A building housing government offices only, to include without limitation a courthouse; 3. A government office; 4. A hospital; 5. A school; (there are a few ways around this one too, will look up the info.) 6. A child care facility; 7. A domestic violence center; 8. A sexual assault shelter; 9. A city-owned public park; (don't remember seeing this on the state books) 10. A fair grounds; and (dont remember seeing this on the state books) 11. A financial institution, to include a bank, savings bank, savings association, and credit union. (there is no such regulation at the state level for this) C. It is unlawful for a person, other than a peace officer (including an acting reserve officer), to openly carry a weapon other than a firearm in any place listed in subsection (B) of this section and in any other public place. (meaning no knifes?) D. Nothing in subsections (B) or (C) of this section shall be construed to prohibit: 1. The transport of unloaded firearms or the open transport of other weapons; 2. The owning or possessing of weapons in one’s own residence; 3. The open carrying of unloaded firearms or other weapons at a show for such weapons, e.g., a gun show; provided, that the carrying is done in conformity with the rules or procedures of the sponsor of the show; 4. The open carrying of a weapon in a place of business which deals with such type of weapon where the carrier intends to use the services of the business, e.g., carrying of a knife in a store that sells or services knives; 5. The open carrying of a weapon in a place by an owner, or employee or other agent of an owner, where the carrying is authorized by the owner and the weapon is used as a tool of the trade by such place, e.g., a knife in a restaurant; 6. The open carrying of a weapon in a place by an owner, or employee or agent of an owner, where the carrying is authorized by the owner and the weapon is used for the security of the owner, occupants, or the place; and 7. The carrying of a hunting knife carried in a sheath attached to the belt or other accessory of dress and openly displayed; provided, that this exception shall not apply at a domestic violence center, a sexual assault shelter, or a fair grounds. E. Nothing in subsections (A) or (B) of this section shall be construed to prohibit the carrying of a concealed handgun in accordance with Alaska statutes by a person issued and carrying a valid permit under said statutes. F. Anyone violating the provisions of this chapter shall be deemed an ordinance violator. (Ord. 519 § 4, 1997) * Palmer Municipal Code Current through Ordinance 07-025, passed September 11, 2007 Disclaimer: The City Clerk's Office has the official version of the Palmer Municipal Code. Users should contact the City Clerk's Office for ordinances passed subsequent to the ordinance cited above. * correct me if the green stuff is wrong. This info is directly copied from the city or palmers website.(except for that in green) Last edited on Wed Feb 27th, 2008 03:05 am by murphyslaw |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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A bit off topic here, but whenever you guys are available to meet up and make this an official meet for the great state of Alaska, I'm down for it! |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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I am not a lawyer but my research indicates that because of municipal preemption, any restriction passed that is stronger than state law would be a violation of the law. That was the whole point in passing preemption so that this situation would not happen again. It even says so on the front page on this web site that we have full state preemption. I have provided the law links as a reference but I strongly urge anyone worried about it to do the research on your own. Municipal preemption Section 18.65.778 A municipality may not restrict the carrying of a concealed handgun by permit under AS 18.65.700. This was repealed because permits are no longer required under SEC. 18.65.780.. It used to be that local elections could supercede state law for the carrying of weapons.. Not anymore under SEC. 18.65.785 as that was repealed. As a side note: My research indicates that there are no special restrictions for open carrying and that it is legal to open carry anywhere it is legal to conceal carry. We are also a class III state. I have found no restriction on the carrying of full-auto weapons or the open carrying of rifles or shotguns where legal by state statute as long as federal law is being followed. Alaska Concealed Handgun Permits HB 102, signed by the Governor on June 11, 2003 changes Alaska Statute 11.61.220 to allow anyone 21 or older, who may legally carry a firearm to also carry it concealed without having to obtain a special permit. The possession of a firearm at courthouses, school yards, bars and domestic violence shelters will continue to be prohibited. Alaskans may still obtain a concealed carry permit if they want reciprocity with other states or want to continue to be exempt from background checks when purchasing firearms. A person 21 or older may be charged with carrying a concealed deadly weapon under AS 11.61.220 if s/he fails to immediately inform a peace officer that s/he is carrying a concealed handgun fails to allow the officer to secure the weapon or fails to secure the weapon at the direction of the peace officer, or carries the weapon concealed within another person’s residence, unless s/he has first obtained the express permission of an adult residing there, whether or not the person has a concealed handgun permit. The effective date of this law change is September 9th, 2003. This law took effect in 2005. Alaska gun laws take effect Wednesday Published on October 17th, 2005 Posted by Eideard in General 
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Flintlock Regular Member
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Please look at the info below in bold. Info from wikipedia.. [edit] Alaska Subject/Law Long guns Handguns Relevant Statutes Notes State Permit to Purchase? No No None No Firearm registration? No No None No "Assault weapon" law? No No None No Owner license required? No No None No Carry permits issued? No Yes 18.65.700 through 18.65.778 and 13-30-10 through 10-30-900 May carry concealed without permit, though permits can be issued for those who wish to have them. State Preemption of local restrictions? Yes Yes Yes State preempts "out legislating" state law. NFA weapons restricted? No No None No Peaceable Journey laws? No No None Federal rules observed. Alaska is the first state to adopt carry laws mimicking Vermont's (normally referred to as "Vermont Carry,"), in which no license is required to carry a handgun either openly or concealed. However, licenses are still issued to residents who want them for purposes of carrying in other states via reciprocity, to be in complete compliance with Federal Gun Free School Zone act or to not be subject to NICS check when purchasing firearms. The term "Alaska Carry" has been used to describe laws which require no license to carry handgun openly or concealed but licenses are still available for those who want them. |
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Baradium Regular Member
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Flintlock wrote: I am not a lawyer but my research indicates that because of municipal preemption, any restriction passed that is stronger than state law would be a violation of the law. That was the whole point in passing preemption so that this situation would not happen again. It even says so on the front page on this web site that we have full state preemption. I have provided the law links as a reference but I strongly urge anyone worried about it to do the research on your own. It says it's current through an ordinance passed in 2007, that doesn't mean that specific one was passed then. Also, further up... I remember reading that a court ruled the duty to notify a peace officer immediately was "unconstitutionally vague." |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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Municipal preemption was signed and passed by Governor Murkoski in 2005 by house bill 184. HB 184 : Firearms Signed into Law! Chapter 82 SLA 05 Sponsored by Rep. Mike Chenault An Act relating to firearms. Version : SCS HB 184 (JUD) Am S Contact : var contact = "Erich Deland" var email = "erich_deland" var emailHost = "legis.state.ak.us" document.write("[url= +]"+ contact + "[/url]") Erich Deland : 465-3779 Last Action : Signed into Law : 07-21-05 Current Status : Chapter 82 SLA 05 : 07-21-05 | Sponsor Statement | 05-05-05 : This bill was introduced to ensure that citizens be able to look to one law as the single final authority regarding firearm regulation. This bill will guarantee consistency in firearm law within the State of Alaska. |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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Baradium, you may be correct. It doesn't mean the ordinance was actually codified in 2007 and just may very well be old language that has not yet been removed since the passing of the statewide law in the fall of 2005. That was actually what I was thinking was the case.. As I re-read the post, I see that you are correct as it was passed in 1997 and is no longer valid... It is a clear violation of municipal preemption if it is being enforced, however. I will start writing e-mails to get on them about updating their web site... I also agree as I have read the same thing as you regarding the notification of police officers as being consitutionally vague... Can't find where I read that though.. Last edited on Wed Feb 27th, 2008 08:50 pm by Flintlock |
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spyderdude wrote: A bit off topic here, but whenever you guys are available to meet up and make this an official meet for the great state of Alaska, I'm down for it! Sure spyderdude, we should have a get-together at some point. Hopefully, we can get several of us available to attend.. |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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For everyone's knowledge, I have written the City Clerk of Palmer and will let everyone know what I find out regarding the updating of "dated" city ordinances. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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spyderdude wrote: A bit off topic here, but whenever you guys are available to meet up and make this an official meet for the great state of Alaska, I'm down for it! Sounds good to me. My schedule is a little more open now. I have spring break coming up here soon, spyderdude we need to get out and shoot. Jon |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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There will be an IDPA match on Saturday March 1st, 2008 at the MVS range. Sign-in and set up will begin at 8:45. Hammer down at 9:30. Match fee is $13.00. $21 for non-MVS range members. Safety Notes: During IDPA & USPSA Matches
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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There will be an IPSC / USPSA match on Sunday March 2nd, 2008 at the MVS range. Sign-in and set up will begin at 8:45. Hammer down at 9:30. Match fee is $13.00. $21 for non-MVS range members. Classifiers cost an additional $3 per gun. Please sign in immediately, then assist in bringing in the range props from the shed before getting geared up for shooting. classifier will be this one. http://www.uspsa.org/classifiers/08-03.pdf We will also have a shotgun side match immediately after the last stage of the regular match. If you want to play bring your shotgun ~10 shotshells and 5 slugs. Last edited on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 05:52 am by murphyslaw |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I do plan to go to the Rabbit Creek range on Saturday to shoot my AK-47 and my Glock 19. That IDPA match sounds good, but I'm not a morning person LOL! Last edited on Fri Feb 29th, 2008 06:12 am by spyderdude |
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spyderdude wrote: I do plan to go to the Rabbit Creek range on Saturday to shoot my AK-47 and my Glock 19. I shot it today, it's worth it |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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spyderdude wrote: I do plan to go to the Rabbit Creek range on Saturday to shoot my AK-47 and my Glock 19. Did you go spyderdude? I've decided to avoid rabbit creek anymore if possible, the rules and regs there are getting slightly rediculous, next thing you know they will outlaw doubletaps...Birchwood for me! What kind of AK do you have? I have been looking at getting either an AK or AR as a grad. present to myself. Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Yeah I went shooting yesterday, all by myself. The rules they have are a bit rediculous, but I can deal with them. I think next time I'm gonna go to Birchwood though, and you're welcome to join me. The AK-47 I have is a Romanian GP WASR10. It's not the prettiest or the most accurate rifle, but it does throw lead down range without a hiccup, and I can still hit a man sized target at 100 yards. I picked it up at AK Shooter Supply for 415 dollars. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Sounds good to me, let me know when your going to go shoot. I have spring break coming up here Mar. 7, so I'm going to be throwin out as much 10mm/45 as I can get my hands on. Anybody ever been to Birchwood? I haven't been yet, but people have told me it has somewhere around twice as many ranges as RC. 415? That isn't too bad. Does it have a solid or folding stock? I've really torn between that, an AR, or bargain-shopping and trying to get one of each. Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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It has a fixed stock. The biggest issue with the Romanians are canted (crooked) front sight and gas block, and magazine wobble. The reason for the magazine wobble is because the WASR10 is originally a single stack gun, and when they're imported, Century Arms dremmels out the mag well to accept regular 30 round magazines, and it lacks the dimples to hold the magazine in place. The magazine wobble does not affect the reliability of the gun in any way, it''s just annoying having it wobble. Other than that, it's a good gun for the money. I'd recommend it to anyone looking to pick up a cheap rifle for SHTF situations or plinking. Fortunately for me though, my WASR10 didn't come with a canted front sight or gas block. I have been to Birchwood a few times, and they have a good selection of ranges. I think the biggest they have is 1,000 yards. I went there for the range portion of the CCW class. It's I think ten dollars to shoot, and 100 bucks for annual membership. Last edited on Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 04:46 am by spyderdude |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Do they allow silhouette shooting? What about holster-draw shooting? I'm going to have to look at pickin' one of those up, if spring break is good money at work I could clear an AK, a few mags and maybe a case of ammo. Thanks, Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I haven't been there in awhile, but I am certain they allow you to do those things. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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there was two matches this weekend. wish i had gone instead of r&r'ing a transmission in my truck phillyman wrote: spyderdude wrote:I do plan to go to the Rabbit Creek range on Saturday to shoot my AK-47 and my Glock 19. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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The weather is finally warming up finally. AKHunter and I went shooting yesterday morning, and it was fun. He found out what a S&W 500 can do! We OCd at the Carls Jr in Eagle River, and of course that went without incident. Damn Alaska is such a great state! |
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Rabid SA-XD Regular Member
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i usually OC everywhere i go, very few people seem to even notice it. |
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marshaul Activist Member 
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I've wanted to visit Alaska my whole life. One thing I can't figure out... of all the states in the country, why would anybody ever concealed carry in Alaska? OC is so much more comfortable. |
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S. Fisher Regular Member 
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marshaul wrote: I've wanted to visit Alaska my whole life. Winter in Fairbanks will change you mind on CC, at -50 that chunk of metal gets too cold to handle. I CC in winter under my coat, OC in summer. |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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S. Fisher wrote: marshaul wrote:I've wanted to visit Alaska my whole life. No doubt about it.. It's a lot more practical to CC in the winter time up here. Summer is when you can let the puppy breathe.. |
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Rabid SA-XD Regular Member
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i was just in fairbanks for the home show doing the amish furniture... |
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Baradium Regular Member
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Arg, missed that show and the gun show (it already happened or is happening soon IIRC). Waited all year for the next gun show and here I am in Memphis for another month or so... |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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If you see a guy on a harley with an XD 45acp service on his hip wave cause its me. I love the summer |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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You got a harley?? Awesome I love the summer too! Fishing season is...almost....here! Now just to get ridda the resta this snow! Jon |
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talonhead Regular Member
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Hi all! New to this site, but was born in Fairbanks and raised in Delta Jct. left in '77. My dad and sister lived in Palmer. My dad passed on this week so i'm making an early trip back. My wife (a CA not-so valley "valley girl") has been pushing to move back, but she don't want/can't deal with the exterme climate of the Interior, so I we come back it will have to be Anchorage "Mat-Su" region. Have been in New England since '96, so she's used to driving in the snow. Besides that she hates CT gun laws! She misses shooting her Sig P220 (.45acp). I'm looking fwd to getting out in the country and do some hunting. Not sure which I'd take as insurance my G20 or Blackhawk .45 colt. But would have to find a job and a home before I could commit. MikeH USN Ret |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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talonhead wrote: Hi all! Welcome to the forum Mike! I just moved back up here two years ago after having been away for a while. You'll not regret it! There are a small group of us Alaskan's on this site and all are friendly so if you have any questions about anything, don't hesitate to ask. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Welcome Mike, it's good to have you here. There aren't many of us in the Alaska section of this board, but we certainly hope to grow, or at least I hope we do. This is by far the most gun friendly state I have ever lived in, and in spite of the cold, it's not a bad place. I have lived here for 7 years, and its a unique place to be. Hope to meet you when you get up here. |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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This thread has been a little slow, so I thought I'd add to it from todays experience. I hiked Bird Ridge trail today (which is the most difficult hike in the Chugach as far as I'm concerned), and it was an absolutely beautiful spring day (best day of the year by far). I actually got sun burnt.. Anyway, the trail is just outside of Anchorage and there were lots of people. I may have encountered more than fifty, at least. I was of course, OCing. Out of those people, I would say truthfully, that only about three people noticably looked down at my weapon, but nobody blinked an eye nor said anything to me other than cheerful good day's. It was as normal as having trekking poles, pack, and sunglasses. My weapon was very noticable as it was stationed at about 11:00, crossdraw, in a Blackhawk Serpa. Very hard to miss. Either people don't pay attention, or they just don't care, here. I'm more willing to consider the latter. Reason I bring this up, in Alaska with all of the tourists that come to hike, I usually encounter someone from another state or another country and sometimes they ask me questions. But not today. I saw another guy OCing as he was hiking with his girlfriend, which was cool to see. He had a large revolver in a leather shoulder holster. I love Alaska. That smell that you sense here isn't that non-polluted, fresh, clean air, or trees, or flowers that is commonplace. It's the sweet, rich, vivid ambiance of freedom.. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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That has been my experience in the few times I've open carried my sidearm. The one's who notice don't care, and I'm sure the ones that care don't notice. I'd like to get out this summer and do some hiking and camping. I haven't been able to enjoy the past couple summers because I was always working and sleeping. Flintlock, what weapon were you carrying? Last edited on Sun May 18th, 2008 04:38 am by spyderdude |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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spyderdude wrote: That has been my experience in the few times I've open carried my sidearm. The one's who notice don't care, and I'm sure the ones that care don't notice. I'd like to get out this summer and do some hiking and camping. I haven't been able to enjoy the past couple summers because I was always working and sleeping. Glock 20 with 15 rounds of DT 200 grain FMJFP and one spare mag. http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_25&products_id=39 |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Awesome gun and an awesome load! I need to order some of that DT stuff. Shipping is a killer though I've noticed also when I OC that the people who do notice don't seem to care. I have noticed that many people, especially in town, don't have a clue I'm carrying. Totally oblivious. How you miss a G20 in a serpa on somebody's side is beyond me, but hey nobody seems to care so it's all good Headin' to Seward Friday and lookin' forward to some OC down there, anyone OC'd there before? Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Well this is a rather quiet forum. I hope everyone's summer is going good so far. With ammo prices on the rise, now would be a good time to start stocking before the upcoming elections. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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I've been thinking the same thing. Spending too much cash as it is unfortunately. I think it will be august or sept. before i can really start piling up. Will just have to pile twice as much three times as fast oh yea, and get that G 19. Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Has anyone ever OCd in any of the movie theaters here in Anchorage? |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Nope, never done that. I belive, though I ain't sure, Totem has a sign 'prohibiting weapons' Jon |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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akhunter3 wrote: Nope, never done that. Hmmm, I'll have to investigate to see if there has been some changes. I have never seen any signs at any of the movie theaters in Anchorage, Totem included. There wasn't one last summer but that could have changed.. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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It's completely possible that they aren't posted. For some reason I keep thinking I saw it posted, but then again sometimes my memory makes me look like a 70 year old blonde lady Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Well I've been CCing in Totem, so it doesn't matter to me. I would like to OC, but I often go when its crowded and someone may try and take my sidearm. I try to avoid small crowded places when I'm OCing. |
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Mad Dog Regular Member 
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Wanted to bump this to the top and ask if anyone has specifically carried in Palmer? I know it's been mentioned here, but has anyone done it, besides me. I've open carried around town, but haven't had a problem as of yet. The state law overrules town /city law, but Palmer bases their thought on "fear" law as I understand? Correct me if I'm wrong, but will it take either getting arrested, or a court case to rule it unconstitutional, to get the real answer? I don't live within city limits, it's just when I go in to grab the mail, or do some grocery shopping. Any help would be appreciated, although part of me wants to continue to do what is a constitutional right, and let the chips fall where they may. Last edited on Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 08:24 pm by Mad Dog |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I can't say I've ever open carried in Palmer, but have done so on several occasions in Anchorage. From my experiences with open carrying in Anchorage, those who notice don't care, and those who care don't notice. I have yet to run into a LEO and get a negative reaction, and I believe you'll be fine OCing in Palmer. Not many folks OC, though it is perfectly legal. I am sure there are countless people who carry concealed though. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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The only OC'ing I have done in palmer was into the taco bell shucks and tesoro right on the highway. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I just thought I'd share my first positive encounter while OCing. A buddy of mine asked me to take him to the Fred Meyer by Sears Mall, so he could return something. I agreed to, and we get there. I walk into the electronics section to purchase a movie to watch at work, and I get up to the counter, and make the transaction. The guy gave me my change, but I dropped a penny. I bent over to pick it up and I hear from the guy behind the counter... "You have a gun... suhweet!" "Yes I do!" Then me and my buddy walk to another part of the store to look for something else, and the same guy from electronics was taking trash out and ran into me again. He asked me what I did that I could carry the way I do, I told him that I carry for personal self defense. He asked me if I was a cop, and I of course said no, and I told him that OC is legal in Alaska. That was the end of that. I don't know what it is about people and thinking that only cops carry guns out in the open. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Good to hear Jon! It's always nice to educate some of the people who have a only-LEO's mentality toward carrying. On a side note-Anyone done any OCing in Kenai? I was down dipping this wknd. and was going to give it a try but never got around to really going to town. P.S.- IF you want to go dip fish, they're DEFINITELY THERE Jon |
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daveit Regular Member
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Hello, new to the forum. I was wondering if someone could give me a run down of businesses in Anchorage that don't allow OC besides the ones listed below. I'd like to know which business I should be boycotting. I recently got my first handgun, so I've never really paid attention to signs prohibiting them and I'm wondering which places do so. Also, I've seen a person OC in the Moose's Tooth before. He was not drinking, but does that fall under a bar or not? |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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daveit wrote: Hello, new to the forum. I was wondering if someone could give me a run down of businesses in Anchorage that don't allow OC besides the ones listed below. I'd like to know which business I should be boycotting. If you want to carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol, whether you drink or not, you will need to carry concealed. So no, he shouldn't of been carrying in Mooses' tooth.  dumb ruleJon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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A little off topic, but just thought I'd announce that I purchased my 3rd Glock handgun, the G17. I now own the 19, 26, and the 17. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Congratulations! I've been tryin' to track down a G19 for three weeks now (from a private seller) and it's next to impossible! If anyone wants/knows someone that wants to get ridda a G19 lemme' know Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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The G19 is hard to come by unless you buy NIB, and for good reason. It's a perfect little pistol! There's a gun show coming up at the Sullivan Arena next month. You and I should go Jon! |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Not a bad idea, I might just have to take you up on that. I've asked around just about everywhere I can think of and it's just plain hard gun to find. I've seen them around before, just not when I have the cash to buy one. Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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The gun show is on Augst 2nd and 3rd. Maybe you can score a G19 there! |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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I certainly hope I can find one. I can't believe how few people are selling Glock 19's these days! I used to see them fairly regularly on the private market. Must be the threat of obamanancy I'd love to see a 19-sized frame that could fire a 10mm cartridge. now THAT would be the **** Jon |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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akhunter3 wrote: Must be the threat of obamanancy That is a classic quote Jon. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Flintlock wrote: akhunter3 wrote:Must be the threat of obamanancy Thanks. I wish I could remember where I'd heard that before. Glocktalk maybe? Anyways just wanted to say I have a G19 in OD that should be shipping any day now. Hopefully will have it sometime next week. Is northern security the cheapest place in town to pick up 9mm? Can't wait to give it a try, this will be a tiny gun/caliber compared to what I'm used to! Jon |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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call ammo can(if you can) and go to northern(they wont tell prices over the phone) see what one is better. my bet is on ammo can. 9mm is not much of a LEO rd, which is what northern moves lots of. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Congrats on the new OD G19, you won't be disappointed. No matter what gun I try to carry I always come back to my trusty G19. The money you save on ammo will be nice too! |
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I like the 45 Long Colt. The factory rounds are low recoil, or with the right gun, you can handload it pretty hot or buy Buffalo Bullets or similar heavy duty rounds that are similar in ballistics to the 44 Magnum. I have a Ruger Vaquero that I love to carry and shoot. I'm not really into the Cowboy Action Shooting or anything but I really like the simple, built in sights, no frills, utilitarian service it gives me. I've got to where I usually carry it instead of my semi autos. If I were buying one today, I'd look for an old model, (not the newest small frame) in stainless for easy maintenance. |
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AKRed Regular Member
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Baradium wrote: murphyslaw wrote:yeah all the laws in alaska are for the most part upfront and easy to figure out, its mostly common since stuff. I like the 45 Long Colt. The factory rounds are low recoil, or with the right gun, you can handload it pretty hot or buy Buffalo Bullets or similar heavy duty rounds that are similar in ballistics to the 44 Magnum. You can also fire them in the 454 and 460 as well. I have a Ruger Vaquero that I love to carry and shoot. I'm not really into the Cowboy Action Shooting or anything but I really like the simple, built in sights, no frills, utilitarian service it gives me. I've got to where I usually carry it instead of my semi autos. If I were buying one today, I'd look for an old model, (not the newest small frame) in stainless for easy maintenance. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I'm being bored here, so just thought I'd check to see how everyone was doing. I haven't been OCing much due to cold temperatures. Anyway other than that, just working twice a week, and chilling with my buddies. Hope everyone is having a good winter season so far, and be careful on the slick roads! |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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I am doing good so far, been busy as hell. working 7 days a week at least 9hrs a day(averaging out the week). enrolled my ass in school, now im broke like everyone. need to find me some more work. |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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Super busy with work and such. Been away from the forum for a while but trying to get back into it now. Summers are a great excuse to stay away from forums when there is so much to do outside. Finalizing a detailed list of potential purchases when the Obamanacy happens next week. Hope everyone is well.. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I splurged with Palin's energy rebate, and bought myself an AR-15 while I still can. All I can say is... I wish I had bought one a long time ago! |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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I've been stocking up a bit due to the impending obamanancy. Staying busy with work and school. If anyone knows where (BESIDES Ammo king) I can pick up some metal AK mags or a case of 7.62 at about $250 per thousand, I'm all ears! |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Try Ammo Can. I think they relocated to the corner of Benson and Spenard. Or you can go to Gun Runners. That's where I managed to score a metal 40 round AK mag. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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I'll have to stop by and give them a looksy. I called them yesterday to ask about ammo, they only sell wolf and it's almost 300 bucks per 1000rd case. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Yeah it was around 250 last time I bought a case. I think I'll just buy ammo by the half case or individual 20 round boxes. Every bit helps! |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Have you ever tried the 'golden bear' brand ammo? It looks to be pretty nice stuff, I'd like to give it a try, but the website I was looking at had the shipping for 1k rounds at over 100 bucks Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I have not tried that brand, but Golden Tiger is good stuff. My Romanian GP WASR10 has misfired a few times on Wolf, but not once when using Golden Tiger. I will be using Golden Tiger every chance I get. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Yea it's a bit diff. i guess the golden bear is brass coated metal cases, sounds intriguing.... |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I certainly hope everyone had a joyful Thanksgiving, I know I did. The company was good, the food was awesome, and I had to work that night. Anyway Happy Holidays everyone! |
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Golden Bear... I shot it. Not a problem..as I remember it is brass coated with zinc. In my opinion its a little better the Wolf ammo and I heard you can reload it. Just my 2 cents. OH... Happy Holidays or Merry Xmas to you and your loved ones. Last edited on Sun Dec 7th, 2008 06:28 pm by Reno82 |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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Ok guys, lets do this right. We need to get together for lunch or dinner or something. I"m tired of these failed attempts and I will not stand for another one. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I have been trying to get someone else to set up another meet, but nobody seems interested. I chose the last location which was back in like July or August. I tried setting up a meet at Dennys in September, but nobody was able to show, so I canceled. I was thinking we should shoot for meet in January. Someone else can throw out a date, time, and location. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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The hard part for me is I have a 4 day a week set schedule. but end up working 6-7 days a week sometimes its days some times nights. some times out of town and I never know outside of those 4 days what I am doing. Lets say for right now. Friday Jan 16th, 2009. location/time : TBD |
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I usually work Friday nights, but not until 10PM, so anytime before that is cool with me. |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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Ok so Friday Jan 16th, 2009. location TBA, Time 6PM ending before 10PM |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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You know, I just realized we all have XD45s! |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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NICE......... |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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I'm in, sounds good to me. Yes, I finally picked up an XD .45 and I gotta say I LOVE it. Shoots like a dream and carries/feels more like a 9mm than a .45 Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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So how do you guys OC in these sub-zero temperatures? I was thinking about getting a duty style belt attachment for my Serpa holsters, so I can just tuck the bottom of my coat between the holster and belt attachment. It just looks weird to me tucking my coat behind the holster and gun, looks kind of like I am trying to show it off on purpose LOL! Last edited on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 02:29 am by spyderdude |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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I haven't OC'd much since this cold snap kicked in. When I do I've been wearing a hoody or a normal long sleeve shirt with layers underneath. Jon |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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Not much OC'in in the winter. especially when its this cold. |
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Well, this is my second post to these forums...we got mostly folk from Anchorage, one or two from Fairbanks, here's one from Delta. Now, I moved here from FL in '00, and was licensed to carry there. I'm comfortable with CC, I'm fine with carrying w/o a permit (love it, even, especially since I let my FL permit expire) but OC I haven't really done except when fishing over at Chitina. The law allows it, and I've read plenty about other Alaskans who OC without much hassle, but I guess I'm still working under my urban FL mindset (lived around the Ft. Lauderdale area), and tend to carry concealed in the interests of not making others uncomfortable. Those familiar with guns and life out here don't mind (I certainly don't panic when I come across someone carrying open), but we do get a lot of imports. Spyderdude: I don't know how plastic/Kydex/whatever handles really cold temps--there's part of me that thinks prolonged exposure to something like 40 below (not something you have to worry about too often in Anchorage) or colder would make the plastic brittle, but I'm certain the guys over at Serpa have taken that all into account. I still prefer leather holsters, though. And I am proud to be the black sheep among you XD fans. My .45 is a H&K USP. |
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Hey Vol, glad to have u on board. I don't OC much either in sub freezing temps, as I want to keep my gun warm. I just bought a leather holster for my XD45, and the grip hugs my body to keep it warm. I am now a fan of leather over kydex. I have tried IWB for concealed carry and it just does not work for me. I have several IWB holsters, and I just do not use them anymore. |
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Rabid SA-XD Regular Member
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IWB holsters do need some break-in time |
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vol_907 Regular Member
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True of most holsters, I think. My Bianchi was a tight fit for the USP, but it's stretched to fit it. I was concerned about snagging if I had to draw, but that hasn't been a problem. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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http://newsminer.com/news/2009/feb/20/fairbanks-group-will-bare-arms-support-gun-rights/ An interesting article about a gun rights group up in Fairbanks. |
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insane.kangaroo Regular Member 
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*laughs*, they're acting like open carry is a new thing. I'll leave a comment informing them how it is not just in Alaska. I've also sent a message to the author of the story. |
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Alaskan Shooter Regular Member
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Insane Kangaroo We realize that this is not a new thing. Many of us have been following the events on this site and respect what all of you are doing to help everyone realize that open carry is legal. Some of us have taken a lot of time to study learn from what you and others have done for this cause, and I for one am very thankful of the gains that you have made for all of us. However, posts like this one have come across as condescending (my opinion). I wish you well, and wanted to let you know that your earlier posts both on this forum and PFOA were very informative. God Bless, Alaskan Shooter |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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Alaskan shooter, if you are a participant or even a organizer of this event, I applaud you and wish you all safe and happy carrying. Thanks for bringning some attention to the cause as this will no doubt get further media coverage. Perhaps fellow open carriers in Anchorage can follow suit of your example and organize a much larger open carry day in the future. |
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Alaskan Shooter Regular Member
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Flintlock, Thanks for the support. I am just a participant who believes strongly in my rights. It looks like we have good leadership, but I am willing to get down and dirty if they ask for help. I have decided to begin OCing in Fairbanks on a regular basis and was planning on starting a topic here for those of us in the interior. Again, thanks for the support |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Flintlock wrote: Alaskan shooter, if you are a participant or even a organizer of this event, I applaud you and wish you all safe and happy carrying. Thanks for bringning some attention to the cause as this will no doubt get further media coverage. There's a few guys over here: http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/ talking about doing OC in Anchortown/the Valley in conjunction with the Fairbanks fellows. I really applaud the guys doing this up in Fairbanks and wish them the best of luck with it, I'd love to see it spread throughout the state Jon |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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akhunter3 wrote: Flintlock wrote:Alaskan shooter, if you are a participant or even a organizer of this event, I applaud you and wish you all safe and happy carrying. Thanks for bringning some attention to the cause as this will no doubt get further media coverage. Absolutely.. If Fairbanks can assemble around 500 open carriers, then we should be setting the bar that much higher here in Anchorage. As you know, I follow the site you posted but go through periods of busy, but I will be checking it again more frequently. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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The problem with Anchorage is that it is a much bigger city, and people often do not want to expose their concealed handguns or they're just not aware that it is legal to carry a handgun out in the open. I would love to see all the Anchorage dwellers get together for maybe a shooting range/lunch meet, but our schedules often conflict. |
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insane.kangaroo Regular Member
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I've walked from downtown all the way to the ghettos(in Anchorage terms) just fine without incident. I walked past a parked police car with men stationed, several police cars drove by me, and the only person who stopped to ask was a resident from a house asking if what I was doing was legal. "I've just never seen anyone open carrying who wasn't a cop before." In fact two neighbors were conversing over me when I was walking back to downtown from a friend's place. Does anyone run screaming, nope, cautious and curious perhaps. OC in anchorage is just fine. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I know OC in Anchorage is fine, I'm just saying it's not something that is practiced by many Anchorage residents. There was only one other person I've seen open carrying and that was at Value Village on Northern Lights back in early 2007. If we can organize a mass open carry meet here in Anchorage that would be fantastic! Last edited on Sun Feb 22nd, 2009 05:12 am by spyderdude |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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I've seen a feller at Denny's who was OCing. Other than that, not so many. I'd love to see Anchortown getting anywhere near the numbers that Fai. has. Definitely a different mentality between here and there. Jon |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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There are to many liberals in Anchorage, and they are scaring our good citizens. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I was just wondering how you folks are doing. The weather is improving, will have to get out and do some summer stuff. The crappy part is I work on weekends and I sleep all day. Maybe one of these days we can all plan a camping trip and/or fishing trip. The only fun thing I really do during the summer is plinking at the range, but that gets boring after awhile. None of my other friends are really into outdoors stuff, I personally enjoy nature, I just don't have like a truck to go off the beaten path, tent, fishing gear, and all my guns aren't exactly traditional hunting rifles and shotguns. |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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You sleep all day? Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Unfortunately yes, because my sleep schedule is backwards. I am a night owl basically. On my nights off (which is most of the week) I stay home, watch over the house while my parents and family pet sleep soundly. Sometimes I can't sleep and I end up hating life at work, because I am so darn tired. I manage to stay awake though at work. I get paid to walk around, and sit on my butt watching movies and browse forums like this one for 8-9 hours a night. It is actually a boring job, and I just drink free coffee which tastes like crap, but hey its free! |
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murphyslaw State Researcher
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^ boring. I work 4 days a week. and get to drive a '07 dodge, carry a gun and yell at people. I love my job........ |
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akhunter3 Regular Member
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Gotta say Murph your job doesn't sound too bad. I take it you have to be 21 to work there? Jon |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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I hope everyone is enjoying the nice weather we are experiencing, although it still gets cool at night when I am at work. I still carry concealed 95% of the time using a shoulder rig or a leather belt holster. I used to like kydex but find the comfort of leather to be more for me. I am free most of the week if anyone wants to do lunch. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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This section is a little quiet! I hope all the locals here are enjoying the nicer summer this year. I know last year we had quite a bit of rain and it was cold. Anyway, I bought a LE duty holster for dedicated open carry so I can wear a jacket and still open carry. I plan to buy a duty belt and keepers in the near future. This will be for winter carry only. |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Too... quiet...in...here! *Watches tumbleweed roll by*  |
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sv_libertarian State Researcher 
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BOOOGGAAA BOOGGAA BOOOGGAAA !!!!!! |
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spyderdude Regular Member
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Well folks here in a couple months another Alaskan summer will be coming to a close. I did not get out and do much as I am now un employeed. I hope everyone got their fishing, hiking, camping, and other outdoor activities in. Looks like another great Alaskan summer wasted for me. |
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Flintlock Regular Member
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That's too bad about your job Spyderdude. Hopefully something will come up soon for you. This was one of the best summers ever, at least with regard to weather conditions. We are truly blessed to live in such a great and beautiful state. |
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